Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 12, 2021 20:07:07 GMT -5
I find it very hilarious that this thread is most active BEFORE the book comes out, when maybe 3 people actually have it. Everyone talking like they know exactly what happened without even reading the book, lol Name a more iconic duo than the Warriors fandom and not reading the books entering fandom discourse. probably the community’s of any of the material that Activision or Electronic arts has released in the past 5-6 years . I mean you can literally feel the positive vibes get vacuumed from the room upon entry on any conversation regarding their work . They have such a prominent stain that reeks like no other , and all well warranted . You’ll struggle to find anything remotely positive from even the content creators on the garbage they’ve been spewing onto the ground in the recent years .
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Post by cygna on Nov 13, 2021 14:28:45 GMT -5
I am done with the main series.
Freaking Bramblestar and Squirrelflight get to live happily ever after but they ice Bristlefrost for ever. I don’t accept this ending.
Like they could have at least killed off Bramble, have Squirrel retire, and let Ivypool become leader give her a super edition for doing her so dirty by killing her daughter permanently.
And a moment of silence for Snowtuft... You deserved better my dude.
Also that characterization of Feathertail is not okay. What did you do to her Kate? give me the real Feathertail back.
Finally I’m upset we did not have a happy non toxic SilverGrayMillie.
BristleRoot is quite possibly the most tragic warriors pairing ever and I’m in pain. Rootspring was my favorite protagonist and it’s not okay that he won’t ever see Bristlefrost again.
Stemleaf was cute though.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Nov 16, 2021 11:05:06 GMT -5
I just realized we never got to see much of Greystripe's Thunderclan leadership either
You'd think with an SE and Greystripe replacing a former protagonist (Lionblaze) as temporary leader of Thunderclan, they'd show how Greystripe deals with the troubled clan
I was actually looking forward to seeing Greystripe shine as a serious, wise old leader but we never got to see a whole lot. Rip
Extra salty because Lionblaze ended up looking bad because of it too. I swear they ruined Lionblaze a lot here, I just feel like the younger Lionblaze would have handled things a bit better
We don't even see Lionblaze at all in the final book either, would've liked to see his reaction or thoughts at the end, since he's been so badly affected by this arc
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Post by Chicken on Nov 18, 2021 12:43:19 GMT -5
I honestly don't see the big deal about people reading spoilers and then complaining about the books without reading the books. Maybe something happened that they didn't want to happen, or maybe something didn't happen that they wanted to happen, and people having their own opinions doesn't hurt anyone. It's like with anything, not everyone is going to like the same things and they should be free to share their opinions. Like, I'm sure a lot of people are disappointed about the fact that... They were expecting a heavy number of cats to bite the dust, but like everyone who did except for two cats were all already dead.
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Post by Alexisawe on Nov 19, 2021 18:28:26 GMT -5
I just finished the book yesterday, and... ...personally, I think the book was... kinda bad. Not horrible, but not good either. Positives: -Bristlefrost's death scene was well written, and actually had a big impact on me. I'm probably in the minority when it comes to that, though. -Graystripe finally dying. We need all characters from the first two arcs to die. They've overstayed their welcome. -Some dark forest cats were (slightly?) redeemed, specifically Snowtuft, Juniperclaw, and Silverhawk. -StarClan finally acknowledged the fact that they made a mistake by accepting Ashfur. -The kin of cats who died actually being upset at their death. (Ex.: Bristlefrost's parents and siblings being shown to be upset.) -Mothwing actually apologizes to Shadowsight and explains why she was so harsh on him. "I was grieving for my place in RiverClan and needed some cat to blame. And I suppose, in some way, you represented my worst fear--that living cats would go against their own instincts to follow the dangerous instructions of some long-dead cat." -The warrior code is finally being changed! Negatives: -Snowtuft perma-dying, and OFF SCREEN TOO -Some StarClan members are very out of character, specifically Silverstream, Feathertail, and Gray Wing. -If Willowshine died in the DF and survived as a spirit, so should've Bristlefrost. It felt like they forced a sad ending for the sake of a sad ending. If Willowshine got to be a spirit, Bristlefrost should be one as well. -Neither Squirrelflight NOR Bramblestar died. It started with them, it should've ended with them. -Hardly any living cats died. The only living cats that died were Graystripe and Bristlefrost. We have so many characters as there are now, and this was an easy way to kill them off. WHY??? -There are so many things wrong with Firestar's appearance. First of all, how is he there?? Why was he only able to speak, but not actually be there? How does he know how to take control of Rootspring when it seems like very few cats even know how to do that? Out of all the characters to choose, why him? Why did they have to make him appear when we could've seen Rootspring figuring out how to fight/escape the guards himself? I'm sick of seeing Firestar take away the spotlight from the ACTUAL main characters. -Ashfur's rant about StarClan is actually... kinda true, and no one takes a second to think about it. The entire reason Ashfur became a huge problem is because of StarClan, and that's not even the only questionable thing StarClan has done.
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Post by Alexisawe on Nov 19, 2021 18:35:40 GMT -5
I'm in complete denial of Snowtuft and Bristlefrost's death. None of the protagonists saw Snowtuft die, and offscreen deaths mean that there's a possibility he's still alive. I've heard a theory that Frostpaw is doing a Cinderheart/pelt moment and is actually Bristlefrost reincarnated. On one hand, I hope that Bristlefrost isn't dead, but on the other, I don't want another reincarnation type thing. Cinderheart's was already bad as it is.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 19, 2021 20:57:48 GMT -5
I'm in complete denial of Snowtuft and Bristlefrost's death. None of the protagonists saw Snowtuft die, and offscreen deaths mean that there's a possibility he's still alive. I've heard a theory that Frostpaw is doing a Cinderheart/pelt moment and is actually Bristlefrost reincarnated. On one hand, I hope that Bristlefrost isn't dead, but on the other, I don't want another reincarnation type thing. Cinderheart's was already bad as it is. That's literally impossible anyway, considering Frostpaw had already been born at the very beginning of the arc. Maybe she'll have some kind of connection to her, but even then, I don't see why she would. Also, Cinderpelt wasn't reincarnated. She was possessing Cinderheart. The only actual reincarnations in the series are the Three.
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Post by Alexisawe on Nov 20, 2021 1:04:18 GMT -5
That's literally impossible anyway, considering Frostpaw had already been born at the very beginning of the arc. Maybe she'll have some kind of connection to her, but even then, I don't see why she would. Also, Cinderpelt wasn't reincarnated. She was possessing Cinderheart. The only actual reincarnations in the series are the Three. I don't believe it's entirely impossible, but yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And I didn't actually mean reincarnation, I just wasn't sure what the exact term was and that's how it came out. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Nov 20, 2021 7:08:31 GMT -5
If I remember correctly Willow got to go to Starclan because her real body was killed in the DF
Meanwhile Bristle perma-died because it was her spirit that was killed in it.
I do find it odd that Bristle's body in the real world just vanished though.
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 20, 2021 8:27:31 GMT -5
I think the more parsimonious explanation is that Bristlefrost fell into the apocalyptic goo rather than "just" dying. Also, Willowshine was cleaved from her body but she wasn't actually attacked as we saw no wounds appear on her living body. Seems more like her attempt to dream her way in through Starclan while Starclan is Ashfur's domain severed her from her body.
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