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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 24, 2021 12:58:46 GMT -5
Ivypool? What would it even focus on? Her POV from AVOS and TBC? Something she'll be doing in ASC? I'll admit that I would love to see her POV during some parts of AVOS and TBC, but I don't really want a whole SE lol I can understand why Misty is an option and one on her could be interesting, but I picked Riverstar with no hesitation. I'd love to finally get more content on his character and on RiverClan from that time, and more DOTC content in general is always a plus imo Maybe her relationship with Fernsong? Though, I think Fernsong would have been the better choice if this was the case. If it's just about that, then it'd be far better suited as a novella.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 24, 2021 13:02:45 GMT -5
i feel so insulted that misty and ivy are even options like wtf? why? first of all, ivy is a former protag and doesnt need any more content on her or her former plots. it should be a RULE that former protags dont need SE's. and second, mistystar had her own novella...it's their own fault for wasting misty's novella on mothwing...so it feels like mothwing got two novellas lmao. but no onelikes misty right now and i dont care about her anymore. she had her chance.
the only cat who deserves more is riverstar...
the webpage isnt even loading for me lol
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 13:24:58 GMT -5
The only information they could possibly actually show about Riverstar is post DotC, which honestly wouldn't be that different from Misty or Ivy getting POV's because they would be post TBC content. We already know how River Ripple got to where he was with the clans through his POV, and more or less saw his character alongside the other original leaders. Being former protagonist, at least in this batch of choices, doesn't make much of a difference imo.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 13:31:15 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵I agree, I just can't think of anything else it could be about, since we already basically saw her from birth to where she is now throughout the main series. ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆I could not agree more with your post.
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Post by rabbit on Sept 24, 2021 13:39:59 GMT -5
There isn't much about Riverstar, so I can see having a super edition for him to flesh out his character. But I am curious what they have in mind for a Mistystar or Ivypool se? Like what will it focus on and where in the timeline it will fall? I am not sure who to vote for because of that.
I don't really care for Dawn of the Clan characters, but there will probably be no retcons shenanigans in a story about River Ripple since, again, we know little about him. But Mistystar or Ivypool might be more interesting and I have a guess they will take place between The Broken Code and A Starless Clan. I think I am going to vote Mistystar to see more lake RiverClan and we don't really know much about her as Ivypool.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 24, 2021 13:45:03 GMT -5
Why not a windclan cat? Riverclan's getting a protag, we need some WC perspective
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 14:10:53 GMT -5
Why not a windclan cat? Riverclan's getting a protag, we need some WC perspective I really hope a WindClan cat gets a novella, I don't really want them to have an SE, because then people can be like "They have four SEs! They're not underrated." I agree though that we need some WC perspective, especially since the only POV they've had in the main series was before the clans were even established.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 24, 2021 14:59:16 GMT -5
Chicken Agreed, maybe we could get a novella on heatherstar or Hawkheart! I'd love one on hawkheart
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Post by cable on Sept 24, 2021 15:08:26 GMT -5
i feel like its a safe bet that riverstar will win. every single reason why has already been stated in the comments before mine. looking forward to revisiting that point in the clans history. i still wanna know how the modern naming conventions started.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 15:25:35 GMT -5
I hope Riverstar wins, but...it IS kind of weird to me that RiverClan will be getting 2 super editions in a row if any of the non-Ivypool options were to win. Don't get me wrong I love RiverClan but dang this is a whole lot of swimmy cat content lately! I can't really complain, but I do hope WindClan gets some too- they're pretty fun and have a lot that could be explored.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 24, 2021 15:25:58 GMT -5
Ivypool and Mistystar?! Uh... how about no. My vote goes to Riverstar who is currently in the lead with 53%. Ivypool somehow has 37%, while Mistystar is at 10%.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 24, 2021 15:28:05 GMT -5
Chicken Agreed, maybe we could get a novella on heatherstar or Hawkheart! I'd love one on hawkheart Yess!! Hawkheart! I don't like Heatherstar, so I wouldn't want one about her, but I would love one about Hawkheart, I feel like he'd have a super interesting story to tell.
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Post by Hollyfall on Sept 24, 2021 16:10:15 GMT -5
I'm a bit disappointed with these options. What story is there even to tell with Ivypool or Mistystar? I can only see it working if it were during TBC for Ivypool, and perhaps going through Mistystar's life until her assumed death next arc.
I find him a bit boring, but Riverstar's honestly the only option here. At least it'd be interesting to see his perspective on things.
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The Shiny User
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 24, 2021 17:22:15 GMT -5
The margins are so close now- Riverstar and Ivypool are practically racing neck-to-neck. I'm praying that he stays in the lead.
Mistystar is at the very bottom, unsurprisingly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 17:23:38 GMT -5
Ivypool better not win and this is coming from someone who loves her. I want my Riverstar book
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 24, 2021 17:25:38 GMT -5
I'd still prefer Ivy over River, but if River wins I do hope the Ivy at least still gets a novella. They both deserve content over Mistystar.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2021 17:26:51 GMT -5
who wants me to jinx it? :3
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Post by tallshadowstar on Sept 24, 2021 17:53:16 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of any of these options, but I voted Riverstar. I like him and I'm sure the Erins could come up with something, even if I never thought he was super interesting.
Mistystar already had her own novella and featured semi-prominently in both A Shadow in RiverClan and Leopardstar's Honor, so no to her. And Ivypool already had her own main series POV and has been a prominent character for three arcs; she doesn't need more fleshing out.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 24, 2021 18:15:04 GMT -5
Out of all the founders, Riverstar had the least focus. True, he had the bonus scene about his past and how he came to the place that would eventually become RC's camp, but I would like to know more about him. Plus we could see more of Night as well since she's his deputy. We also have Dappled Pelt, Shattered Ice, Dew, Dawn Mist, Moss Tail, Drizzle, Pine Needle and Spider Paw. And I always liked knowing more about families and who is related to who.
We know Dawn and Moss are mates and that Drizzle and Pine are their kits. But we know nothing about anyone else. Maybe we'll even get a cameo from Emberstar depending on when the first code from COTC takes place. That story did say that there were still cats in the Clans who remembered the battle at Fourtrees.
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Sept 24, 2021 18:39:06 GMT -5
Out of all the founders, Riverstar had the least focus. True, he had the bonus scene about his past and how he came to the place that would eventually become RC's camp, but I would like to know more about him. Plus we could see more of Night as well since she's his deputy. We also have Dappled Pelt, Shattered Ice, Dew, Dawn Mist, Moss Tail, Drizzle, Pine Needle and Spider Paw. And I always liked knowing more about families and who is related to who. We know Dawn and Moss are mates and that Drizzle and Pine are their kits. But we know nothing about anyone else. Maybe we'll even get a cameo from Emberstar depending on when the first code from COTC takes place. That story did say that there were still cats in the Clans who remembered the battle at Fourtrees. Here's the exact quote: “Is every Clan here?” Duststar called from on top of the huge gray rock. All around him, trees murmured softly in the night breeze, casting blurred shadows across the moonlit hollow. Duststar had asked the other leaders to meet him here because the hollow lay at the center of the Clans, yet it belonged to none since the battle that had separated the Clans for the very first time. The elders who could recall that battle stayed away from the hollow.
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 24, 2021 19:47:00 GMT -5
I-but why the heck would Mistystar need a SE? Are we going to get this stupid view of her early life and then how her brain worked when she banished Harelight and Icewing? We honestly don't have a part in Ivypool's life where we didn't get her POV and was important, at all. I don't get it. +Oh god why does Ivypool have 52% and Riverstar only 40%? eww please
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 25, 2021 3:38:10 GMT -5
We need more RiverClan! We only have 2 RiverClan SEs and an upcoming RiverClan POV in ASC! But that's not enough! We also had Feathertail and Stormfur's POV in TNP. Feathertail's manga. Mothwing's novella Mistystar's novella. Whereas with WindClan, you have no novellas and no POVs in the main series, I know Gray Wing was a POV and he ended up in WindClan, but WindClan didn't even exist formally until he was on his death bed, so idk if it even counts. Also, RiverClan got to be pretty heavily involved in the TBC plot, in the latest book, Squirrelflight said that three cats from other clans (Shadow, Sky, and River) worked to help save her, but guess who was left out? WindClan. I'm not saying that WindClan should get an SE, because they have three, though they have no novellas, when the other clans have at least two, so I guess it balances out a bit, however, to have two RiverClan options, one who already had a novella, and a former main series protagonist who we already know everything about, is a little annoying to me. Feathertail's and Stormfur's POV was just the tribe and the journey, not RiverClan. And three novellas is not much. I agree with you about WindClan though.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 25, 2021 5:03:39 GMT -5
Rainsplash What if the Mistystar SE is just an explanation for why she's so old
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Post by briarfrost on Sept 25, 2021 5:10:43 GMT -5
If Ivypool wins this over Riverstar I’m gonna resent her forever
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 25, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5
I voted for Ivypool. I don't care if she's already had a lot of screen time, I love seeing my favorite characters.
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 25, 2021 5:59:37 GMT -5
Rainsplash What if the Mistystar SE is just an explanation for why she's so old And they're going to say that Mistystar's actually a god and will reign over RiverClan forever.
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Post by Snowfire on Sept 25, 2021 6:44:05 GMT -5
My vote goes for Riverstar but I wouldn’t mind Ivypool winning a SE as long as I see some Fern x Ivy scenes and I’ll be happy if they do something for Riverstar at another point.
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Post by Vale on Sept 25, 2021 6:56:39 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not the only one quite confused by the options in this poll.
Ivypool is a great character, but all the SE I've read that use a pov character we follow through most of their lives end up, in my opinion, being some of the worst ones. I think characters we mainly see from the outside or for only a brief moment have more of a capacity for a good standalone story as we don't know as much about them. If the editors already have an idea for Ivypool that's fresh and exciting then sure, but any story I can think of off the top of my head sounds better as a novella - Ivypool becoming leader and facing conflict within the clan, her relationship with Fernsong being explored or how her choosing to have kits but Fernsong looking after them in the nursery doesn't make her any less of a mother and that families don't have to follow traditional roles to be healthy and positive.
...actually I wouldn't mind at all if it ends up being the latter one, even if I think it'd be better as a novella.
Mistystar is a bit ehh, we know her origins and see her throughout the series. We've even had a novella for her which tackles what is for me the most interesting part of her character - her faith and how it causes her to judge others who doesn't have it, even her friends. I wish they hadn't decided to go back on it recently but fine, she's having a religious crisis and is punishing those she used to stand by out of fear. Not a great look but I can understand why they chose it. I'm glad it seems like she won't get this super edition because I don't think I'd bother reading it unless the blurb was something totally unexpected. Not sure why they didn't just make this option a Windclan or even a Shadowclan cat but maybe it was a response to the fandom's outcry for more Riverclan content.
Riverstar is imo the best option, we see little of him in DOTC though his presence is fairly well-known. We do know some of his past but he mainly plays the role of being a mysterious but kind cat that assists those from the mountains while all the other leaders have bigger roles. He's important but there is an underlying sense that he has his own goals and views that could be interesting to read about while being a character from my favourite arc so I'm biased anyay.
I'll be interested to see whatever comes, but the chances of me picking up it on release if it's a Mistystar or Ivypool SE is a lot less than if it goes to Riverstar. Time will tell though depending on who wins and what the story ends up being.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 25, 2021 8:24:03 GMT -5
I swear to god if Ivypool wins and this fandom acts like assholes to literal children who wanted to see Ivypool get an SE, which I remind you this series is for people younger than a majority of us, I’m actually going to be annoyed. I personally don’t care if Ivypool or Riverstar wins, but your favorite pick not winning gives you 0 excuse to be a jerk to people who are excited about it. Because I can already smell the hateposts from immature users if Ivypool does win. That’s my only concern with this poll. If Riverstar wins, cool. If Ivypool wins, cool. Please don’t be an ass about it either way.
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