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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 21, 2021 18:08:40 GMT -5
Bump
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 22, 2021 5:35:39 GMT -5
Next one up!
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Sept 22, 2021 6:05:56 GMT -5
Dovewing. I don't like Tigerheart or Bumblestripe.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 22, 2021 6:10:17 GMT -5
Dovewing for sure.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 22, 2021 9:11:23 GMT -5
Bumblestripe. Dove and Tiger are insufferable and incapable of communication at all. At least Bumblestripe is actually likable and deserved far better than being stuck in such an awful love triangle with such awful cats.
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Post by Aqua on Sept 22, 2021 9:13:05 GMT -5
All of them are bad mates, but, Dovewing. She was the most mature one who decided to swap clans to solve the problem.
Bumblestripe wouldn't leave Dovewing the heck alone about kits. (I don't want people arguing with me about this, and honestly, I really don't care how "nice" he was to her. He crossed the line for me in that moment. I'm not mad, but I'm tired of the same argument going in circles, so I really don't feel like debating about this subject.)
Tigerheart was manipulative with Dovewing and wouldn't let her move on. Not really a fan of either character.
So, Dovewing.
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Post by Rainfire on Sept 22, 2021 10:51:48 GMT -5
Dovewing by a long shot!
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Post by Chicken on Sept 22, 2021 11:08:48 GMT -5
Tigerheart
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 22, 2021 11:47:12 GMT -5
Dovewing is more fun, but she does do some things that annoy me. I still like her though Tigerheart is ok, he's gotten better in TBC but still sour about AvoS tigerheart. And bumblestripe was kinda boring when I read about him
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Aroace
#ffa100
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 22, 2021 14:29:22 GMT -5
Dovewing. I hate Tigerheart and dislike Bumblestripe.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Sept 22, 2021 17:15:51 GMT -5
Tigerheart with Dovewing as a close second.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Sept 22, 2021 23:16:02 GMT -5
I guess Bumblestripe? Mostly because I feel bad for him being thrown to the wolves for Tigerjesus, but then Dovewing, and then Tigerjesus
I really...don't love this group as a whole though
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Post by scarletflames on Sept 23, 2021 1:33:51 GMT -5
My vote went to Bumblestripe because I can’t stand Dove or Tiger. I haven’t caught up to AVOS but I felt a lot of sympathy for Bumblestripe during OOTS. I know Bumble wasn’t perfect with DovexBumble, but I feel Dovewing was worse when it came to problems with that ship.
Dovewing was constantly snapping at him, and in that one scene where he couldn’t accept her apology after she’d snapped, and basically told her that he wasn’t a scratching post, I really felt for him. Maybe he was a bit rude snapping back at her when she was trying to apologize, but Dovewing’s constant comparing him to Tigerfart felt really unfair since at that time I don’t think Bumble even knew about Tiger. When Bumble and Dove broke up and Bumblestripe said Dovewing “wasn’t the cat he thought she was” maybe that line was a bit harsh, but I didn’t feel any sympathy for Dovewing after she tried to use Bumblestripe to get over Tigerfart when Bumblestripe’s feelings for Dovewing were genuine. Bumblestripe did get lowered in my eyes when he and Dovewing eventually got back together- I was so freaking glad when they broke up and he recognized they shouldn’t be together, it bothers me he couldn’t keep that character development of trying to be without Dovewing, who never truly loved him.
But if it was a poll of just Dove and Tiger, I think I’d go with Dovewing. I have slightly less anger towards Dove than Tiger, since even though Dovewing has made pretty selfish decisions and I dislike her overall, she did have moments where she was empathic and good natured, rare moments that I liked her character more, such as the DS novella.
But I’m still never gonna get over her going to sleep while knowing Ivypool was being held hostage, or her snarky inner monologue about how Tigerfart wouldn’t make her climb trees during that tree climbing exercise, and how during that exercise she thought Tigerfart was so much better than Bumblestripe, and thought he wouldn’t make her do the exercise when I’m pretty sure it was a mandatory exercise... and I hated how she kept getting back together with Tigerfart in spite of him proving over and over again Shadowclan would always be his priority...
So I’d basically only vote for Dovewing if I had to compare her to Tigerfart, who I despise. I can’t think of a single good thing about Tigerheart- at least with Dovewing there were small moments where I occasionally liked her character, such as Dovewing’s Silence, even though I dislike her heavily overall. But Tigerheart was a terrible mate to her in OOTS, and basically used and manipulated her. It’s been a long time since I’ve read OOTS, but I got the impression Dovewing was more serious about their relationship and loved him more than he loved her.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 23, 2021 2:34:27 GMT -5
Bumblestripe. Bumblestripe genuinely did love Dovewing, and he didn't just want to be with her because of kits, he genuinely had feelings for her, and wanted to retry and possibly fix their relationship. Dovewing never gave him closure or an explanation for just dropping him like a sack of potatoes. She used him from the start, to her he was never just someone she could possibly have feelings for like she did for Tigerheart, he was always a factor of "convenience" to her. She snapped at him and used him like a scratching post, she constantly compared him to Tigerheart unfairly, she used him to get over Tigerheart, and then dropped him just because he wasn't Tigerheart. It was always Tigerheart this and that, she never once thought of him as him. Then had the audacity to show up with another tom's kits after missing for moons, honestly, her communication skills were worse than either of them. At least Bumblestripe wanted to talk and work things out, while she constantly avoided him just because she didn't want to "break his heart". If she actually wanted to supposedly be left alone, then there's no reason for her to be honest with him. I tolerate Dovewing over Tigerheart, since I can't stand his actions against SkyClan, but even then Dovewing was also selfish and manipulative to him as well. Forcing him to choose between his clan and her was just downright wrong. I can't stand either of them, and I wish they had just stayed with the guardian cats and left the clans alone. Meanwhile, Bumblestripe deserves better, and I hope he gets a mate that loves him for him and not because he's "convenient".
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Post by Rainsplash on Sept 23, 2021 4:38:13 GMT -5
Dovewing Dovewing Dovewing
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 23, 2021 13:30:33 GMT -5
Dovewing. I love her character a lot more.
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Post by cable on Sept 23, 2021 14:29:21 GMT -5
dovewing is the most interesting of these three, so i like her most by default.
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Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 23, 2021 15:14:10 GMT -5
Bumblestripe. Bumblestripe genuinely did love Dovewing, and he didn't just want to be with her because of kits, he genuinely had feelings for her, and wanted to retry and possibly fix their relationship. Dovewing never gave him closure or an explanation for just dropping him like a sack of potatoes. She used him from the start, to her he was never just someone she could possibly have feelings for like she did for Tigerheart, he was always a factor of "convenience" to her. She snapped at him and used him like a scratching post, she constantly compared him to Tigerheart unfairly, she used him to get over Tigerheart, and then dropped him just because he wasn't Tigerheart. It was always Tigerheart this and that, she never once thought of him as him. Then had the audacity to show up with another tom's kits after missing for moons, honestly, her communication skills were worse than either of them. At least Bumblestripe wanted to talk and work things out, while she constantly avoided him just because she didn't want to "break his heart". If she actually wanted to supposedly be left alone, then there's no reason for her to be honest with him. I tolerate Dovewing over Tigerheart, since I can't stand his actions against SkyClan, but even then Dovewing was also selfish and manipulative to him as well. Forcing him to choose between his clan and her was just downright wrong. I can't stand either of them, and I wish they had just stayed with the guardian cats and left the clans alone. Meanwhile, Bumblestripe deserves better, and I hope he gets a mate that loves him for him and not because he's "convenient". couldnt agree more . My vote goes to bumblestripe all the way . I really dislike tigerheart , and honestly 11 years later I’m still baffled to this day what people find so enjoyable about Dovewings character , aside from The fourth apprentice and Dovewings Silence , where I barely find her tolerable/indifferent . Rest of OOTS it took all my Willpower to not skip over Dovewings PoVs, which unfortunately is like over half of the series Focus . no wonder I haven’t ever had an urge to reread OoTS .
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Post by Aqua on Sept 23, 2021 16:13:17 GMT -5
Bumblestripe. Bumblestripe genuinely did love Dovewing, and he didn't just want to be with her because of kits, he genuinely had feelings for her, and wanted to retry and possibly fix their relationship. Dovewing never gave him closure or an explanation for just dropping him like a sack of potatoes. She used him from the start, to her he was never just someone she could possibly have feelings for like she did for Tigerheart, he was always a factor of "convenience" to her. She snapped at him and used him like a scratching post, she constantly compared him to Tigerheart unfairly, she used him to get over Tigerheart, and then dropped him just because he wasn't Tigerheart. It was always Tigerheart this and that, she never once thought of him as him. Then had the audacity to show up with another tom's kits after missing for moons, honestly, her communication skills were worse than either of them. At least Bumblestripe wanted to talk and work things out, while she constantly avoided him just because she didn't want to "break his heart". If she actually wanted to supposedly be left alone, then there's no reason for her to be honest with him. I tolerate Dovewing over Tigerheart, since I can't stand his actions against SkyClan, but even then Dovewing was also selfish and manipulative to him as well. Forcing him to choose between his clan and her was just downright wrong. I can't stand either of them, and I wish they had just stayed with the guardian cats and left the clans alone. Meanwhile, Bumblestripe deserves better, and I hope he gets a mate that loves him for him and not because he's "convenient". couldnt agree more . My vote goes to bumblestripe all the way . I really dislike tigerheart , and honestly 11 years later I’m still baffled to this day what people find so enjoyable about Dovewings character , aside from The fourth apprentice and Dovewings Silence , where I barely find her tolerable/indifferent . Rest of OOTS it took all my Willpower to not skip over Dovewings PoVs, which unfortunately is like over half of the series Focus . no wonder I haven’t ever had an urge to reread OoTS . There's more to Dovewing's character than her romance. It's just that her character is wasted on a story like that, and she has so much more to her. She's compassionate, stubborn, determined, loyal to family, selfish, stupid, has self-esteem issues, blames herself for things that aren't her fault, loyal to ShadowClan, is a good mother to her kits, and she's generous to Tigerheart and truly loves him. A lot of her story also focuses on her self-esteem problems and issues with her sister. I feel like people just see her as a "romantic character" but she's a lot more to that, BUT it's that the writers wasted her other interesting traits for Tigerheart, which makes her a frustrating character to read about. She really isn't that bad tho, but her issues can easily be fixed into a much more interesting character if she just stayed broken up with Tigerheart from the beginning since he told his clan about the catmint. I definitely understand why people like her, but I also understand why a lot of people DON'T like her. We just see her with a different view, there's so much the writers can do with Dovewing, it's just a shame she was entirely wasted on Tigerheart. She has a LOT to her personality,but she's a victim to bad writing. I don't think the Erins even knew what to do with her tbh.
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Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Sept 23, 2021 20:13:28 GMT -5
I suppose I can Agree she has some positive Qualities, traits to her that make her relatable to some people , and there was wasted writing potential for sure . And tbh I don’t Think the Erins had a clue what they were trying to do with PoT and OoTS after Dark River . Unfortunately IMO her compassionate side, and loyalty to family , is so overshadowed by her skittish, whinny, indecisive, self-pitying , borderline schizophrenic like Behavior , her complete and Utter lack of Basic communicative Skills, to have a mature conversation with really anyone , and then lashing out , and having tantrums and getting upset because other cats don’t understand how she feels ,cause they don’t have telepathy/ or psychic abilities to read her mind is downright ridiculous to me . And with her character predominantly focusing on her Mooning and being woeful about the unfairness of her not being able to be with Tigerheart , and with quite a good amount of her problems stemming from her either being to insecure/ or feeling Guilty I guess for whatever reason ? To communicate her feelings/concerns or thoughts with others . Which would have helped her avoid a lot of her troubles to begin with , makes her a very unlikable character imo . Albeit it does make her realistic/ and relatable to some , which I can respect . But to me , her inability to handle any responsibility /pressure from basic, everyday life activities in General , and then playing/manipulating someone else’s Heartstrings in a feeble attempt to Get over someone else , and then constantly belittling them/comparing them to your unattainable Ex , while still giving them Hope , only to smash there heart to smithereens , without any explanation or closure to what they did wrong , because she couldn’t muster up the courage to say ‘No’ in the beginning , is inexcusable , and downright Filthy , and Makes her unbearable to read about or feel the Tiniest Particle of empathy for . If you find her redeemable , and a likable character , good for you , nothing wrong with that . But personally I never will
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 26, 2021 13:15:41 GMT -5
Next one up!
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 26, 2021 13:22:27 GMT -5
D-Don't do this to me...
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Post by crowspirit on Sept 26, 2021 13:22:44 GMT -5
I love both of them, but Ivypool has simply way more content than Fernsong. He has just enough personality and screen time to not be a cardboard cutout.
Edit: That post made me become deputy, I love it.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Sept 26, 2021 13:30:26 GMT -5
I love fernsong, but ivypool was a POV so she's a little more interesting.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Sept 26, 2021 13:36:47 GMT -5
Fernsong.
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Aroace
#ffa100
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𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 26, 2021 13:50:07 GMT -5
I adore both of them. But Ivypool will probably win this one anyways so I'm voting for Fernsong to try and even out the poll.
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Post by Chicken on Sept 26, 2021 14:18:24 GMT -5
This is a tough one! I'm not a big fan of Ivypool, and Fernsong is nice and all, but what else is there?
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Sept 26, 2021 15:26:27 GMT -5
Fernsong because he is adorable and I love him and I despise Ivypool
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Post by Rainfire on Sept 26, 2021 16:23:25 GMT -5
Oooohhh this one hurts because I love them both so much, but it's definitely Ivypool for me
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