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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jul 31, 2021 17:26:39 GMT -5
A little idea would be seeing what different AUs people could come up with on certain topics. First up, SquirrelCrow instead of LeafCrow.
Now! What if Feathertail, Stormfur, and Mistyfoot stayed in ThunderClan?
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Post by Chicken on Jul 31, 2021 18:14:06 GMT -5
I think Squirrel and Crow would be interesting, because they spent way more time together than Leafpool and Crowfeather did.
Leafpool and Hawkfrost instead of Bramblestar and Squirrelflight would also be interesting, it would have made a lot more sense imo, instead of some random WindClan jerk who went on a trip with her sister. With Hawkfrost's sister being a medicine cat, and Leafpool visiting RiverClan to see her, it would have been the perfect opportunity for her to see Hawkfrost quite often.
Another pairing that I think could be interesting is Tawnypelt and Crowfeather, I don't know why, I just imagine that they'd either work well together or end up taking each other to StarClan.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 1, 2021 5:37:33 GMT -5
SquirrelxCrow: I think they would get together after the journey is done. They would both grieve for Feathertail but bond more over it. Crowfeather would probably want to run away because of the code but I think they would break up because Squirrelflight would want to stay with her family. I think she would invite Crowfeather to join ThunderClan but he would deny for the sake of his ambitions if they have to stay in the Clans. Leafpool wouldn't have anyone to really attach to so the Three would be born with Squirrelflight. Based on coloring, many would suspect Bramblestar or Ashfur. I can see Bramblestar offering to cover, maybe knowing who the real father is, if he hasn't taken a mate. I also see them actually falling in love and thus resulting in the later litter. Ashfur would still proceed with the fire but Squirrelflight would outright attack him in defense, maybe suffering some wounds. Hollyleaf would remain in ThunderClan and probably not die at all. I think in the Great Battle, Lionblaze would die in Hollyleaf's original place. However Cinderheart would still be expecting their kits. Instead of Squirrelflight being appointed as deputy, Hollyleaf could be.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Aug 1, 2021 6:55:38 GMT -5
An AU about CrowSquirrel?! Here's a thread of mine that I made back in April about them getting together instead of LeafCrow: wcrpforums.com/thread/82733/au-bramblefeather-crowsquirrel-main-couplesAlthough it is more focused on another AU pairing I'm also a fan of which is BrambleFeather. But these are the parts where it is about CrowSquirrel: ...and meanwhile watch Crowpaw and Squirrelpaw quarrel with each other about which one of them is from the best Clan, the better hunter, tracker, fighter and so on. ...while Squirrelflight and Crowclaw, which would have been his actual warriors name until he requested -feather himself, have a playful friendship till they are made warriors which is when their attachment starts to grow into romantic affection. They either end up having The Original Three (Holly, Lion and Jay) or at least one entirely different litter of kits. CrowSquirrel Only Litter (born after Sunset) Hollyshade - strong black she cat with green eyes Lionstorm - stocky golden tabby tom with amber eyes Jaysong - sturdy gray tabby tom with blind blue eyes or Only Litter (born after Sunset) Sootcloud - swift dark gray tom with amber eyes Rainpool - slim light gray tom with blue eyes Lakebreeze - slender dark ginger she cat with green eyes
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 1, 2021 7:05:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I think Squirrelflight would be the mother of the Three, as Leafpool was only attracted to Crowfeather. I think Leafpool wouldn't have broken the code at all if Crowfeather was with someone else, especially her sister.
As for an AU where Leafpool and Hawkfrost were a thing, it would require a lot of changes. I think Hawkfrost would have to be a character less evil and more of manipulated. Maybe not going through with trying to kill Firestar. I can see him becoming deputy and leader if he turned out to be good. Perhaps the fire and tiger prophecy could refer to them over Squirrelflight and Bramblestar. In this AU, Crowfeather would just be mates with Nightcloud, maybe with Breezepelt having living siblings. Squirrelflight and Bramblestar would probably be asked to take the Three, as Hawkfrost couldn't take them to RiverClan without suspicions (and we already played that game with OakxBlue) and obviously Leafpool is a medicine cat. I think Alder and Spark would be born sooner.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 1, 2021 8:36:09 GMT -5
For this au, I think Squirrel should stay barren rather than the back pedaling they did in the actual series. This would reinforce StarClan’s insistence of Leafpool’s usual destiny, since it would be impossible for Squirrel to have the three.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 1, 2021 9:03:28 GMT -5
For this au, I think Squirrel should stay barren rather than the back pedaling they did in the actual series. This would reinforce StarClan’s insistence of Leafpool’s usual destiny, since it would be impossible for Squirrel to have the three. I don't think it was a retcon, really? Issues with conceiving yes, but I still think Yellowfang was 100% fine with lying. Squirrelflight and Bramblestar were still a new couple. I also really disagree with Squirrelflight being barren with no prior family history of infertility. If Leafpool and Crowfeather never got together, it would make no sense to have two forbidden romances. So Squirrelflight would have to be the Three's mother.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 1, 2021 9:11:31 GMT -5
For this au, I think Squirrel should stay barren rather than the back pedaling they did in the actual series. This would reinforce StarClan’s insistence of Leafpool’s usual destiny, since it would be impossible for Squirrel to have the three. I don't think it was a retcon, really? Issues with conceiving yes, but I still think Yellowfang was 100% fine with lying. Squirrelflight and Bramblestar were still a new couple. I also really disagree with Squirrelflight being barren with no prior family history of infertility. If Leafpool and Crowfeather never got together, it would make no sense to have two forbidden romances. So Squirrelflight would have to be the Three's mother. I’m convinced they really meant for Squirrel to be barren but decided to change their mind when they needed new main characters for vision of shadows. It just seems like an impossible task for authors to write infertile characters because they always have bio kids at the end by some miracle or other dumbf*ckery. It is just really poor taste.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 1, 2021 9:15:21 GMT -5
If they needed new main characters, they could have used Lionblaze's kits, though? If there was a family history of infertility, it would be more likely or even further down. Squirrelflight is half kittypet, so she is less inbred than the other cats in ThunderClan. I find it unbelievable for her to be barren when a cat like Ferncloud had so many kits.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 1, 2021 9:23:19 GMT -5
If they needed new main characters, they could have used Lionblaze's kits, though? If there was a family history of infertility, it would be more likely or even further down. Squirrelflight is half kittypet, so she is less inbred than the other cats in ThunderClan. I find it unbelievable for her to be barren when a cat like Ferncloud had so many kits. You could also ask why Squirrel never got pregnant until the end bramblestar’s storm when they revealed her being barren was a lie. This series also cares little about genetic history (made clear by impossible coat colors, I think it is impossible for Leafpool to be a brown tabby from two ginger cats?). As for why they didn’t use LionCinder’s kits or any of the other blank slates in ThunderClan waiting to be developed, I ask the same thing. The series would be better it they did imo.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 1, 2021 12:23:12 GMT -5
If they had the Three, why try for more?
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Aug 1, 2021 18:11:48 GMT -5
A little idea would be seeing what different AUs people could come up with on certain topics. First up, SquirrelCrow instead of LeafCrow. Uhhhhhh... well, they definitely would have more to build off of than LeafCrow. They're both really incapable of working relationships in their own ways, though. There really aren't many healthy ways to handle Squirrelflight's "my way or highway" tendencies and Crowfeather is probably the least suited to handling it because his way of dealing with people that are pissing him off is ripping into them or just outright ignoring them. If he did the former, then it would end up like any one of their conflicts on the journey, which would be either literally just verbally tearing into each other until somebody makes them knock it off or actually getting physically violent (which nearly happened at least twice in TNP during fights between them). If he just ignored her then the relationship just basically doesn't exist anymore. I know that Crowfeather tends to be a lot less aggressive and more kind towards somebody that's actually earned his trust, but any partner of Squirrelflight's is going to get shit on for daring to disagree with her on something she strongly believes in, and then he's just going to rescind the decision to put his neck out there. The first conflict they have as a couple, they'd just fall to pieces. Part of why Crowfeather's existing pairings work is because the two cats he falls for are generally sensible and are generally capable of not being childish pricks the second something doesn't go their way. If he did fall for somebody like Squirrelflight or PoT-era Berrynose or some other character with the inclination to act really childish, he genuinely wouldn't have the capability to handle it for long. Hell, look at how he handles interactions with Breezepaw when he's being a little bitch.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 2, 2021 14:26:09 GMT -5
New topic: What if Feathertail, Stormfur, and Mistyfoot stayed in ThunderClan?
I think if they stayed in ThunderClan after the Stonefur incident, Blackclaw could possibly appointed deputy for RiverClan. I think Mistyfoot would feel torn but the betrayal would be a lot so she would need to heal. Maybe mimicking her mother's behavior somewhat. I don't see her having more kits at all, so she would just give her all.
Stormfur and Feathertail wouldn't go on the journey, but I think Bramblestar and Squirrelflight still would. Maybe Pikepaw, Mistyfoot's son, would go before he died. Tawnypelt would still go, as would Crowfeather. I think Pikepaw would take Feathertail's original spot, so he would die saving the Tribe. Crowfeather would actually be named Crowclaw (thanks for pointing that out, Chicken) because I don't see him bonding enough with Pikepaw to be called Crowpike.
Once settled at the lake, I see Feathertail and Bramblestar having a litter but maybe because he wasn't having arguments about Hawkfrost, kinda steps into the dark side long enough to have Firestar lose a life before changing his mind. While he did save Firestar, he did let him lose a life and he is exiled from ThunderClan. Feathertail raises her kits similar to how Goldenflower raised Tawnypelt and Bramblestar. Leafpool and Crowclaw wouldn't get together, instead it's a one-sided crush on Leafpool's part. Stormfur and Squirrelflight become mates with maybe Stormfur becoming deputy or even Brackenfur. They would be the parents of the Three.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Aug 2, 2021 14:54:50 GMT -5
If Mistyfoot, Stormfur and Feathertail had stayed in ThunderClan?
Well firstly, no Mistystar to be found anywhere in my version on this AU! She has proven herself in canon to be very bad at the job, especially in TBC. I think she would settle down as a warrior but perhaps later have another mate and more kits. Maybe even with Graystripe.
As for Stormfur and Feathertail, I can see StormSquirrel and BrambleFeather easily happening because they did have some chemistry in canon, at least to me. Either Stormfur or Feathertail could become leader after Firestar, as Brambleclaw would probably indeed be better as a normal but still high ranking and well respected warrior or even a nursery king if his personality got softened up a bit.
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Post by Rainsplash on Aug 2, 2021 21:29:52 GMT -5
Mistyfoot would stay as Mistyfoot and not become the mess she is now. I'd like BrambleFeather because why not. ReedFeather's fine too, if Feathertail went on the journey and Reedwhisker went for RiverClan.
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