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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 11:41:14 GMT -5
I noticed that a lot of people said they dislike Tigerheart, but sometimes, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so maybe there are actually more people out there than just like Rockfoot and myself who do like him. So I decided to make this poll.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jul 20, 2021 11:47:48 GMT -5
I'm in the same camp as you two. I have some beefs with him - or rather, his character writing - but I actually like him for the most part. I can see why people might dislike him, though, and suspect that the majority actually does - which the poll will probably reveal as the thread goes on.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 20, 2021 11:59:20 GMT -5
WHERE IS THE HATE CHOICE AT? I JUST WANNA TALK!
I'm mostly kidding but also have to confess that Tigerpaw was really one of my beloved characters back when he was an apprentice and also in the first book of the OotS arc where he became a warrior. The author/editing team since then has just written him in a direction that displeases me to no end.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 11:59:36 GMT -5
I'm in the same camp as you two. I have some beefs with him - or rather, his character writing - but I actually like him for the most part. I can see why people might dislike him, though, and suspect that the majority actually does - which the poll will probably reveal as the thread goes on. Same, there are times he really annoyed me, like in AVOS, but in general, it seems like he has a good heart. I really liked him in Tigerheart's Shadow, and how he was willing to do what was best for the kits, like he fully accepted them living in ThunderClan and then making their own choices when they got old enough. I know he would have liked for them all to come to ShadowClan, but he was open to other possibilities. I didn't however like how he kept trying to push the clan ways on The Guardian Cats, that was a bit annoying. Yeah, he's sometimes impulsive, doesn't make the best choices, but at his core, he's still a very noble and kind cat who cares deeply for his family.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:01:44 GMT -5
WHERE IS THE HATE CHOICE AT? I JUST WANNA TALK! I'm kidding (partly) but have to confess that Tigerpaw was really one of my beloved characters back when he was an apprentice and also in the first book of the OotS arc where he became a warrior. The author/editing team since then has just written him in a direction that displeases me to no end. Haha. I can understand that, it seems like the team writes these characters in a way to make them fit the plot, rather than building the plot around their characteristics, if that makes any sense? One minute he's good, one minute he's bad, just make up your mind, and I know this is how it can be in real life sometimes, but it's hard to actually get an actual read on the character's personality, but I liked Tigerheart more times than I disliked him so.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 20, 2021 12:13:45 GMT -5
WHERE IS THE HATE CHOICE AT? I JUST WANNA TALK! I'm kidding (partly) but have to confess that Tigerpaw was really one of my beloved characters back when he was an apprentice and also in the first book of the OotS arc where he became a warrior. The author/editing team since then has just written him in a direction that displeases me to no end. Haha. I can understand that, it seems like the team writes these characters in a way to make them fit the plot, rather than building the plot around their characteristics, if that makes any sense? One minute he's good, one minute he's bad, just make up your mind, and I know this is how it can be in real life sometimes, but it's hard to actually get an actual read on the character's personality, but I liked Tigerheart more times than I disliked him so. Apparently that's what the team considers to be character development. I guess some of my annoyance for him could also stem from his dragged out romance drama with Dovewing but I'm mostly angry about how he was glorified so much in the AVoS arc and his SE to be build up as the perfect ShadowClan leader while his father Rowanstar became a spineless coward who all of a sudden couldn't decide on anything (he seemed to be doing fine prior to that in Bramblestar's Storm).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:20:24 GMT -5
Haha. I can understand that, it seems like the team writes these characters in a way to make them fit the plot, rather than building the plot around their characteristics, if that makes any sense? One minute he's good, one minute he's bad, just make up your mind, and I know this is how it can be in real life sometimes, but it's hard to actually get an actual read on the character's personality, but I liked Tigerheart more times than I disliked him so. Apparently that's what the team considers to be character development. I guess some of my annoyance for him could also stem from his dragged out romance drama with Dovewing but I'm mostly angry about how he was glorified so much in the AVoS arc and his SE to be build up as the perfect ShadowClan leader while his father Rowanstar became a spineless coward who all of a sudden couldn't decide on anything (he seemed to be doing fine prior to that in Bramblestar's Storm). You're right. The whole thing was stupid as hell IMO. ShadowClan should not have been the fall clan this time, Rowanstar was able to lead ShadowClan perfectly fine for nearly two years. Honestly, they should have had either something happen and Onestar be distrusted by his clanmates, maybe his clanmmates are still all distrustful of him because he allowed Breezepelt to stay, or maybe Harestar is a new leader, either way, it should have been a WindClan cat. Needletails role should have been taken by Brindlewing or Smokehaze, since they're Darktail's half sisters, and it would have more of an impact on the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't have made Onestar Darktail's father, because WindClan got hit the LEAST, if Blackstar was Darktail's father, it would have made A LOT more sense. Not only do they look alike, but he targeted ShadowClan like the second most after SkyClan I think, and besides Blackstar lived as a rogue for awhile so he had the chance. It makes no sense at all. Sorry I went a bit off topic there, but this annoys me to no end. I can think of many other instances, where simple different options could have been so much better, like instead of putting her cousin Dewnose as the father of Sorrelstripe's kits on the family tree, why not Stormcloud? It would have made a lot more sense considering he was in the nursery with her. But no, like all the other cats from outside the clan, they're ignored in favor of Firekin. I thought this was Warriors not a history book about royalty from like the 1600s.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 20, 2021 12:24:33 GMT -5
Everyone knows I dislike this joke of a character. Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:26:05 GMT -5
Everyone knows I dislike this joke of a character. Ugh. I have a question, do you love Littlecloud more than you hate Tigerheart? I'm asking because I see you as being the #1 Littlecloud fan and the #1 Tigerheart Anti-Fan XD
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 20, 2021 12:33:18 GMT -5
Everyone knows I dislike this joke of a character. Ugh. I have a question, do you love Littlecloud more than you hate Tigerheart? I'm asking because I see you as being the #1 Littlecloud fan and the #1 Tigerheart Anti-Fan XD I love Littlecloud more than I could ever hate any cat, there is just no comparison. Good, Tigerheart is hot garbage, I have no love for bad writing and plot-armor bias characters lmao.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:35:58 GMT -5
I have a question, do you love Littlecloud more than you hate Tigerheart? I'm asking because I see you as being the #1 Littlecloud fan and the #1 Tigerheart Anti-Fan XD I love Littlecloud more than I could ever hate any cat, there is just no comparison. Good, Tigerheart is hot garbage, I have no love for bad writing and plot-armor bias characters lmao. That's understandable lmao. I think I feel the same way regarding Squirrelflight and bias. I know some of the writers say they dislike her, but still, she turns out to be right every single time, so it's hard to believe that there isn't a bias, you know? However, that's a topic for a different thread.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 20, 2021 12:36:45 GMT -5
Apparently that's what the team considers to be character development. I guess some of my annoyance for him could also stem from his dragged out romance drama with Dovewing but I'm mostly angry about how he was glorified so much in the AVoS arc and his SE to be build up as the perfect ShadowClan leader while his father Rowanstar became a spineless coward who all of a sudden couldn't decide on anything (he seemed to be doing fine prior to that in Bramblestar's Storm). You're right. The whole thing was stupid as hell IMO. ShadowClan should not have been the fall clan this time, Rowanstar was able to lead ShadowClan perfectly fine for nearly two years. Honestly, they should have had either something happen and Onestar be distrusted by his clanmates, maybe his clanmmates are still all distrustful of him because he allowed Breezepelt to stay, or maybe Harestar is a new leader, either way, it should have been a WindClan cat. Needletails role should have been taken by Brindlewing or Smokehaze, since they're Darktail's half sisters, and it would have more of an impact on the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't have made Onestar Darktail's father, because WindClan got hit the LEAST, if Blackstar was Darktail's father, it would have made A LOT more sense. Not only do they look alike, but he targeted ShadowClan like the second most after SkyClan I think, and besides Blackstar lived as a rogue for awhile so he had the chance. It makes no sense at all. Sorry I went a bit off topic there, but this annoys me to no end. I can think of many other instances, where simple different options could have been so much better, like instead of putting her cousin Dewnose as the father of Sorrelstripe's kits on the family tree, why not Stormcloud? It would have made a lot more sense considering he was in the nursery with her. But no, like all the other cats from outside the clan, they're ignored in favor of Firekin. I thought this was Warriors not a history book about royalty from like the 1600s. I also would have liked AVoS a lot more if changes had been made although ShadowClan as the ones to always survive every destruction attempt getting thrown at them is kind of iconic (Brokenstar, Sol and Darktail). Blackstar as the real father of Darktail made way more sense in terms of genetics (but that's not the only reason and was never big in their universe). It could have given Rowanstar the chance to step up and be the one to kill Darktail in honor of his previous leader instead of him being reduced to what he became in canon. TigerDove's second romance attempt made the second half of AVoS almost unbearable for me so him giving her up and getting with someone else should have happened instead. That's just my opinion on it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:39:11 GMT -5
You're right. The whole thing was stupid as hell IMO. ShadowClan should not have been the fall clan this time, Rowanstar was able to lead ShadowClan perfectly fine for nearly two years. Honestly, they should have had either something happen and Onestar be distrusted by his clanmates, maybe his clanmmates are still all distrustful of him because he allowed Breezepelt to stay, or maybe Harestar is a new leader, either way, it should have been a WindClan cat. Needletails role should have been taken by Brindlewing or Smokehaze, since they're Darktail's half sisters, and it would have more of an impact on the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't have made Onestar Darktail's father, because WindClan got hit the LEAST, if Blackstar was Darktail's father, it would have made A LOT more sense. Not only do they look alike, but he targeted ShadowClan like the second most after SkyClan I think, and besides Blackstar lived as a rogue for awhile so he had the chance. It makes no sense at all. Sorry I went a bit off topic there, but this annoys me to no end. I can think of many other instances, where simple different options could have been so much better, like instead of putting her cousin Dewnose as the father of Sorrelstripe's kits on the family tree, why not Stormcloud? It would have made a lot more sense considering he was in the nursery with her. But no, like all the other cats from outside the clan, they're ignored in favor of Firekin. I thought this was Warriors not a history book about royalty from like the 1600s. I also would have liked AVoS a lot more if changes had been made although ShadowClan as the ones to always survive every destruction attempt getting thrown at them is kind of iconic (Brokenstar, Sol and Darktail). Blackstar as the real father of Darktail made way more sense in terms of genetics (but that's not the only reason and was never big in their universe). It could have given Rowanstar the chance to step up and be the one to kill Darktail in honor of his previous leader instead of him being reduced to what he became in canon. TigerDove's second romance attempt made the second half of AVoS almost unbearable for me so him giving her up and getting with someone else should have happened instead. That's just my opinion on it though. I wouldn't have minded this turn of events! Yeah, I hate how this series deals with relationships.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 20, 2021 12:42:30 GMT -5
You're right. The whole thing was stupid as hell IMO. ShadowClan should not have been the fall clan this time, Rowanstar was able to lead ShadowClan perfectly fine for nearly two years. Honestly, they should have had either something happen and Onestar be distrusted by his clanmates, maybe his clanmmates are still all distrustful of him because he allowed Breezepelt to stay, or maybe Harestar is a new leader, either way, it should have been a WindClan cat. Needletails role should have been taken by Brindlewing or Smokehaze, since they're Darktail's half sisters, and it would have more of an impact on the story. Otherwise, they shouldn't have made Onestar Darktail's father, because WindClan got hit the LEAST, if Blackstar was Darktail's father, it would have made A LOT more sense. Not only do they look alike, but he targeted ShadowClan like the second most after SkyClan I think, and besides Blackstar lived as a rogue for awhile so he had the chance. It makes no sense at all. Sorry I went a bit off topic there, but this annoys me to no end. I can think of many other instances, where simple different options could have been so much better, like instead of putting her cousin Dewnose as the father of Sorrelstripe's kits on the family tree, why not Stormcloud? It would have made a lot more sense considering he was in the nursery with her. But no, like all the other cats from outside the clan, they're ignored in favor of Firekin. I thought this was Warriors not a history book about royalty from like the 1600s. I also would have liked AVoS a lot more if changes had been made although ShadowClan as the ones to always survive every destruction attempt getting thrown at them is kind of iconic (Brokenstar, Sol and Darktail). Blackstar as the real father of Darktail made way more sense in terms of genetics (but that's not the only reason and was never big in their universe). It could have given Rowanstar the chance to step up and be the one to kill Darktail in honor of his previous leader instead of him being reduced to what he became in canon. TigerDove's second romance attempt made the second half of AVoS almost unbearable for me so him giving her up and getting with someone else should have happened instead. That's just my opinion on it though. You’ll enjoy alot of my rewrite then
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jul 20, 2021 12:47:15 GMT -5
I also would have liked AVoS a lot more if changes had been made although ShadowClan as the ones to always survive every destruction attempt getting thrown at them is kind of iconic (Brokenstar, Sol and Darktail). Blackstar as the real father of Darktail made way more sense in terms of genetics (but that's not the only reason and was never big in their universe). It could have given Rowanstar the chance to step up and be the one to kill Darktail in honor of his previous leader instead of him being reduced to what he became in canon. TigerDove's second romance attempt made the second half of AVoS almost unbearable for me so him giving her up and getting with someone else should have happened instead. That's just my opinion on it though. You’ll enjoy alot of my rewrite then I'm certain that I will.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jul 20, 2021 13:00:32 GMT -5
I definitely don’t always agree with his decisions, but overall, yes, I do like Tigerheartstar!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 13:05:00 GMT -5
I definitely don’t always agree with his decisions, but overall, yes, I do like Tigerheartstar! Yet another thing we have in common. I'm beginning to wonder if were actually the same person, but you're like the super intelligent version XD
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Post by sparkleeze on Jul 20, 2021 13:16:30 GMT -5
Difficult to chose, but had to chose dislike. In the beginning yeah, he was a nice character that I liked but later on.. I just don't agree with a lot of his decisions and he seemed like a pretty poor father/leader in my eyes. I just get that annoyed vibe from him like- "Oh no, not this guy again", even though I don't really see him as annoying? Just didn't really care for where his story went tbh -w-
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Post by cygna on Jul 20, 2021 13:17:30 GMT -5
Is hate an option because I truly do hate this cat. He inspires such rage in me that I can't hide.
I liked him a bit in his youth. He was funny and charming but that died very quickly. After his romance with Dovepaw kicked off I could not stand either of them. I was actually laughing back then because I thought this love story was doing more of a disservice to their characters than GraySilver did to Graystripe's character. It stopped being funny really fast given the fact that both Ivypool and Bumblestipe were being hurt by these cats.
There is also the fact that he doesn't really respect Dovewing's wishes. She wanted him to leave her alone. He did not. Her personality also completely changed for him. Dovewing apparently loves her horrible boyfriend more than she loves her family who has stuck by her side her whole life.
He doesn't really respect anyone. Yet nepotistic Rowanstar made him deputy. It baffled me so much that this is the only reason I could understand his choice. His apprentice was also SLEEKWHISKER. He clearly screwed up so bad training her.
Then there's the dumpster fire that is Tigerfart's Shadow. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why this book was bad. Watch Quiet Rage's video on it on Youtube, she can tell you what's wrong with this book.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jul 20, 2021 13:21:24 GMT -5
Is hate an option because I truly do hate this cat. He inspires such rage in me that I can't hide. I liked him a bit in his youth. He was funny and charming but that died very quickly. After his romance with Dovepaw kicked off I could not stand either of them. I was actually laughing back then because I thought this love story was doing more of a disservice to their characters than GraySilver did to Graystripe's character. It stopped being funny really fast given the fact that both Ivypool and Bumblestipe were being hurt by these cats. There is also the fact that he doesn't really respect Dovewing's wishes. She wanted him to leave her alone. He did not. Her personality also completely changed for him. Dovewing apparently loves her horrible boyfriend more than she loves her family who has stuck by her side her whole life. He doesn't really respect anyone. Yet nepotistic Rowanstar made him deputy. It baffled me so much that this is the only reason I could understand his choice. His apprentice was also SLEEKWHISKER. He clearly screwed up so bad training her. Then there's the dumpster fire that is Tigerfart's Shadow. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why this book was bad. Watch Quiet Rage's video on it on Youtube, she can tell you what's wrong with this book. In defense of Rowanstar, Tigerheart was the only cat besides Tawnypelt to stay loyal the entire way. Shadowclan was a rotten husk with no good choices to pick from, so he might as well pick one of the few cats he can actually trust.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 13:21:41 GMT -5
Is hate an option because I truly do hate this cat. He inspires such rage in me that I can't hide. I liked him a bit in his youth. He was funny and charming but that died very quickly. After his romance with Dovepaw kicked off I could not stand either of them. I was actually laughing back then because I thought this love story was doing more of a disservice to their characters than GraySilver did to Graystripe's character. It also stopped being funny really fast. Adding the fact that both Ivypool and Bumblestipe were being hurt by these cats. There is also the fact that he doesn't rally respect Dovewing's wishes. She wanted him to leave her alone. He did not. Her personality also completely changed for him. Dovewing apparently loves her horrible boyfriend more than she loves her family who has stuck by her side her whole life. He doesn't really respect anyone. Yet nepotistic Rowanstar made him deputy. It baffled me so much that this is the only reason I could understand his choice. His apprentice was also SLEEKWHISKER. He clearly screwed up so bad training her. Then there's the dumpster fire that is Tigerfart's Shadow. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why this book was bad. Watch Quiet Rage's video on it on Youtube, she can tell you what's wrong with this book. I really enjoy Quiet Rage's videos, so I'll check it out soon! I think the reason Rowanstar made him deputy, was because there weren't a lot of other cats he felt he could trust. Out of all of ShadowClan, pretty much only Tigerheart and Tawnypelt stuck by him, and Tawnypelt already stepped down didn't she? So, I can understand why he chose him. I hate the fact that Tigerheart is leader, because I believe that if you break the warrior code for selfish reasons, like taking a forbidden mate, then you shouldn't have a chance at being leader. However, I can understand why Rowanstar picked him, and he really did seem like one of the best choices at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 13:23:23 GMT -5
Is hate an option because I truly do hate this cat. He inspires such rage in me that I can't hide. I liked him a bit in his youth. He was funny and charming but that died very quickly. After his romance with Dovepaw kicked off I could not stand either of them. I was actually laughing back then because I thought this love story was doing more of a disservice to their characters than GraySilver did to Graystripe's character. It stopped being funny really fast given the fact that both Ivypool and Bumblestipe were being hurt by these cats. There is also the fact that he doesn't really respect Dovewing's wishes. She wanted him to leave her alone. He did not. Her personality also completely changed for him. Dovewing apparently loves her horrible boyfriend more than she loves her family who has stuck by her side her whole life. He doesn't really respect anyone. Yet nepotistic Rowanstar made him deputy. It baffled me so much that this is the only reason I could understand his choice. His apprentice was also SLEEKWHISKER. He clearly screwed up so bad training her. Then there's the dumpster fire that is Tigerfart's Shadow. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why this book was bad. Watch Quiet Rage's video on it on Youtube, she can tell you what's wrong with this book. In defense of Rowanstar, Tigerheart was the only cat besides Tawnypelt to stay loyal the entire way. Shadowclan was a rotten husk with no good choices to pick from, so he might as well pick one of the few cats he can actually trust. We posted similar things at pretty much the same time XD.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 20, 2021 13:59:30 GMT -5
Is hate an option because I truly do hate this cat. He inspires such rage in me that I can't hide. I liked him a bit in his youth. He was funny and charming but that died very quickly. After his romance with Dovepaw kicked off I could not stand either of them. I was actually laughing back then because I thought this love story was doing more of a disservice to their characters than GraySilver did to Graystripe's character. It stopped being funny really fast given the fact that both Ivypool and Bumblestipe were being hurt by these cats. There is also the fact that he doesn't really respect Dovewing's wishes. She wanted him to leave her alone. He did not. Her personality also completely changed for him. Dovewing apparently loves her horrible boyfriend more than she loves her family who has stuck by her side her whole life. He doesn't really respect anyone. Yet nepotistic Rowanstar made him deputy. It baffled me so much that this is the only reason I could understand his choice. His apprentice was also SLEEKWHISKER. He clearly screwed up so bad training her. Then there's the dumpster fire that is Tigerfart's Shadow. I'm not going to waste my time explaining why this book was bad. Watch Quiet Rage's video on it on Youtube, she can tell you what's wrong with this book. In defense of Rowanstar, Tigerheart was the only cat besides Tawnypelt to stay loyal the entire way. Shadowclan was a rotten husk with no good choices to pick from, so he might as well pick one of the few cats he can actually trust. This, and Tawnypelt, from what we saw of her novella, wasn’t really all that ambitious to be deputy. She supported her mate with everything she was, but at that time, I can see why Rowanstar picked Tigerheart. That, and if he had picked Tawnypelt, I guarantee his clan would have yet again set fire under his feet for choosing his mate as his deputy. He couldn’t win no matter what I guess. Besides, his first deputy was Crowfrost, so it’s not like he was out here slinging nepotism around. He literally just had no other options.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jul 20, 2021 16:56:36 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion, but i like him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 16:57:46 GMT -5
In defense of Rowanstar, Tigerheart was the only cat besides Tawnypelt to stay loyal the entire way. Shadowclan was a rotten husk with no good choices to pick from, so he might as well pick one of the few cats he can actually trust. This, and Tawnypelt, from what we saw of her novella, wasn’t really all that ambitious to be deputy. She supported her mate with everything she was, but at that time, I can see why Rowanstar picked Tigerheart. That, and if he had picked Tawnypelt, I guarantee his clan would have yet again set fire under his feet for choosing his mate as his deputy. He couldn’t win no matter what I guess. Besides, his first deputy was Crowfrost, so it’s not like he was out here slinging nepotism around. He literally just had no other options. Yeah, like I mentioned in my post, I can fully understand why Tigerheart was chosen, but I didn't even think about how cats would react if he chose Tawnypelt, since this series places WAYY more emphasis on mates than any other relationship, so good point!
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Post by Fireleap on Jul 20, 2021 17:36:32 GMT -5
I never liked him, but I only started actively disliking him after TS.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 20, 2021 17:52:37 GMT -5
I liked Tigerheart when he was younger, but he's become really insufferable lately. What kind of father are you, suggesting that Shadowsight shirk responsibility of letting Ashfur out and run away to the Tribe? I still picked like, because... I still like him a lot. XD
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Post by roseberry on Jul 20, 2021 22:42:40 GMT -5
I honestly feel neutral about him, I feel like he has many pros and cons and I don't really have an opinion on him.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jul 20, 2021 22:45:58 GMT -5
So far, the votes are much more even than I thought they’d be. (It’s currently like - 8, dislike - 9, neutral - 5.)
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