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Post by Aqua on Jun 26, 2021 21:38:42 GMT -5
Who do you think is the most overrated cat?
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 26, 2021 21:39:24 GMT -5
As much as I like her, I gotta say Squirrelflight.
The fans have made me not like her as much.
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Post by MadameDelune on Jun 26, 2021 21:51:26 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 26, 2021 22:05:46 GMT -5
Ivypool imo is more overrated than Squirrelflight.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 26, 2021 22:24:47 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated damn...people who genuinely think this way are not helping any cause...yikes. why r people so afraid to call female characters bad or overrated, or point out any flaws? people do realize anyone of any label is capable of having flaws, right? lol
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jun 27, 2021 0:01:39 GMT -5
Firestar is an incredibly generic protagonist, and yet he's still by far the most well-loved cat in the entire fandom. He even gets more votes than Jayfeather, who is also incredibly well-loved, but 1) he deserves it for being such a well-written character and 2) he actually has haters. When's the last time you saw a Firestar hater?
People saying Squirrelflight is funny to me because while I agree in a narrative sense that the ERINS seem to love her too much, it seems to me that the fans generally hate her, at least in my limited experience.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jun 27, 2021 0:31:15 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated damn...people who genuinely think this way are not helping any cause...yikes. why r people so afraid to call female characters bad or overrated, or point out any flaws? people do realize anyone of any label is capable of having flaws, right? lol Yeah, as much as i love Squirrelflight, i don't like it when people try to deny she has flaws. She's very flawed and its a big part of who she is.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 27, 2021 1:21:44 GMT -5
Skypaw13 tumblr and twitter r where the hard core squirrelflight defenders r at if u ask me. a lot of people on there will attack others who say a single bad thing about squirrelflight.
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Post by Snowfire on Jun 27, 2021 1:37:43 GMT -5
Mapleshade
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 2:33:06 GMT -5
Definitely Hollyleaf
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jun 27, 2021 5:49:11 GMT -5
Defentively Firestar is the most overrated.
And about the twitter thread, i'm a little pissed at how people like that excuse everything Squirrelflight does, paint her ans an innocent saint, and it ends up making Squirrelflight fans look bad, like if we all excused her actions. There are many Squirrel fans who will defend her but will also acknowledge her faults.
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Post by crowspirit on Jun 27, 2021 6:04:17 GMT -5
Scourge. All the ones listed as least have enough content, which makes their popularity somewhat justified. Scourge however appears in like four books, is the fandoms biggest edge boy and baby who did nothing wrong.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jun 27, 2021 6:06:42 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated Squirrelflight represents women's rights?
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Post by crowspirit on Jun 27, 2021 6:09:42 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated Squirrelflight represents women's rights? I like Squirrelflight, I really do, but those people make me super uncomfortable. I don't want anyone to associate me with them. I understand that she isn't perfect, far from that, actually. Why, Twitter, why should someone be a misogynist, just because they dislike a character who happens to female?
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jun 27, 2021 6:10:12 GMT -5
Squirrelflight represents women's rights? I like Squirrelflight, I really do, but those people make me super uncomfortable. I don't want anyone to associate me with them. I understand that she isn't perfect, far from that, actually. Why, Twitter, why should someone be a misogynist, just because they dislike a character who happens to female? Just Twitter being Twitter.
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Post by Seven on Jun 27, 2021 7:55:23 GMT -5
As of some of the fandom now, except here, I think Squirrelflight, or Ashfur (not in a defending way of course) In the past, it was Jayfeather.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jun 27, 2021 8:05:13 GMT -5
Ivypool in this poll. Huh was Hollyleaf and Firestar added? Anyway Hollyleaf and Jayfeather are overrated too. Oh and Mapleshadeee
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 27, 2021 8:11:20 GMT -5
I find it funny that Firestar is still considered overrated by some because imo, he's more overratedly UNDERrated.
And yeah I hate the rabid Squirrelflight supporters. I'll defend her because she's my fave and I understand her despite her more flawed moments, I do NOT want to be associated with the crazies in the Twitter and Tumblr WC fandom though. They just do nothing but make the rest of us look bad and I'm honest to GOD tired of it. Don't lump us all like those in that twitter thread FFS. Squirrelflight despite the idea that she's overrated actually has gotten a lot of hate outside those crazies and imo that I'm looking at more because honestly I just look at the Tumblr/Twitter Squirrelflight fanbase and really I always wanna tell those ''fans''' of hers "She's not gonna nest with you guys, cool the bullshit."
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 27, 2021 11:45:24 GMT -5
Squirrelflight for sure. Both storywise and in the fandom although there was a time when she was overhated while Ashfur got all the love instead. I'm guessing she now being more appreciated than before could have something to do with a certain video made by Moonkitti because people feel bad about someone not getting treated well and are feeling protective over her. Also, that Twitter comment and thread might be meant as a joke but it still comes off as very accusatory. Everyone should be allowed to dislike any character they want without making it all about gender or supposed sexism. By the way, Skypaw13 , concerning your question about Firestar, I had watched this Goldenflower AU MAP BIG EYES hosted by Chocobir recently and just casually looked into the reply chains under some comments only to find my first ever Firestar hater called The Highwaymen who seems very angry at him and calls Sandstorm and Squirrelflight goddesses. They can be found in a currently 75 replies chain under a comment made by someone named Mousetail.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 27, 2021 19:17:33 GMT -5
Easily Squirrelflight, even more so because of the Moonkitti incident. Her fans are absolutely rabid, and they're constantly excusing her terrible behavior. It's gotten to the point where I remember seeing someone blame Bramblestar for why Squirrelflight lied to him about his own children, I'm---??? I know people think Ivypool is overrated, but honestly compared to Hollyleaf and Jayfeather, not really.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jun 27, 2021 19:30:17 GMT -5
Squirrelflight. Her rabid fans on Twitter and Tumblr unfortunately make her like that. Brindlefern 🔥Firestar🔥 I completely agree with both of you. Liking a character and enjoying their personality is one thing, but going so far as to paint them as a perfect saint who has zero flaws and attack anyone who says otherwise is another. Coming from someone who really likes Squirrelflight, I'd rather not be associated with these people. Acknowledging that your favorite character is flawed isn't akin to hating them, and honestly, characters having flaws is what makes them more interesting and likable characters. I wish they'd understand that.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 27, 2021 19:46:17 GMT -5
Ivypool in this poll. Huh was Hollyleaf and Firestar added? Anyway Hollyleaf and Jayfeather are overrated too. Oh and Mapleshadeee Well as much as I love Hollyleaf, a lot of people make a huge deal about her, even excusing some of the crap she did and as far as I know, many people seem to love her more than hate her. I actually forgot to mention Mapleshade. I'll add that later! A lot of people love Firestar, but he's really generic for the most part.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 27, 2021 23:17:11 GMT -5
Ivypool in this poll. Huh was Hollyleaf and Firestar added? Anyway Hollyleaf and Jayfeather are overrated too. Oh and Mapleshadeee Well as much as I love Hollyleaf, a lot of people make a huge deal about her, even excusing some of the crap she did and as far as I know, many people seem to love her more than hate her. I actually forgot to mention Mapleshade. I'll add that later! A lot of people love Firestar, but he's really generic for the most part. It's because next to Jayfeather, they're arguably the most "loved" in the fandom, even Lionblaze gets a good chunk of love from the fandom just for being part of that litter. Personally I think Hollyleaf is the most overrated out of the three for sure, since she really didn't add much to the story initially until her breakdown, and then upon her return she only lasted one book before being iced, felt like a waste. Mapleshade is in between, people either really really hate her to the point they blame everything that happened on her, or they like her to the point they excuse everything she's ever done. It's weird. But honestly I think Sleekwhisker is way more overrated in comparison, especially since the fandom is obsessed with "evil female characters" Mapleshade at least did the evil part right, can't say the same about Sleekwhisker as a villain. I do agree that Firestar comes off as a kind of generic, plus I think some people see him as overrated because he's got a lot of nostalgia points, and he's pretty much the canon "status quo" for a TC leader nowadays. I personally like him, but I can see where others are coming from.
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Post by nightstep on Jun 28, 2021 12:24:54 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated Ah, yeah, that thread where the poster said they were obviously joking... twice... Great choice. Good job leaving their @ in the picture too.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 28, 2021 12:46:38 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated Ah, yeah, that thread where the poster said they were obviously joking... twice... Great choice. Good job leaving their @ in the picture too. Even if it was a joke, there's plenty of other examples of Squirrelflight fans harassing other people and trying to enforce her as a saint. Especially on twitter, tumblr and youtube easily. One example, regardless of it being a joke, doesn't disprove the point Madame was making. "this is a joke. kind of." OP doesn't even sound too confident about it being a joke either. Also, linked/shared tweets, can not be censored. OP put it up in a public domain, people will see it and share it, it's just how twitter works.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 28, 2021 13:01:45 GMT -5
Honestly a large majority of posters like that only say it’s a joke when they get alot of rightfully stern feedback and comments. Honestly I don’t believe many people when they say their very clearly distasteful comments were just jokes. Because they probably weren’t.
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Post by MadameDelune on Jun 28, 2021 16:41:57 GMT -5
Ah, yeah, that thread where the poster said they were obviously joking... twice... Great choice. Good job leaving their @ in the picture too. Even if it was a joke, there's plenty of other examples of Squirrelflight fans harassing other people and trying to enforce her as a saint. Especially on twitter, tumblr and youtube easily. One example, regardless of it being a joke, doesn't disprove the point Madame was making. "this is a joke. kind of." OP doesn't even sound too confident about it being a joke either. Also, linked/shared tweets, can not be censored. OP put it up in a public domain, people will see it and share it, it's just how twitter works. Btw the OP wasn’t joking. I got blocked by them for saying “oh thank god you’re joking I thought you were being deadass serious for a sec there.”
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Post by MadameDelune on Jun 28, 2021 16:48:34 GMT -5
This Twitter thread is the reason why I hate squirrelflight and why she is so overrated Ah, yeah, that thread where the poster said they were obviously joking... twice... Great choice. Good job leaving their @ in the picture too. It’s always the ones with the moonkitti profile pics who wanna be snarky and rude 🥴
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 28, 2021 16:55:22 GMT -5
Rabid rude Squirrelflight fans were around even before Moonkitti's video btw, just saying... x.x
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Post by MadameDelune on Jun 28, 2021 17:01:34 GMT -5
Rabid rude Squirrelflight fans were around even before Moonkitti's video btw, just saying... x.x You’re completely right. And ya know it’s not moonkitti’s fault at all I don’t think for the rabid hatred towards people who dislike squirrelflight becoming mainstream. She was just making a rlly cool hour long theory video that was very nicely made albeit biased. It’s her fans that are mostly the problem when it comes to how mainstream the hatred is. Moon can’t rlly control what her fan base does. No content creator can. I just took a jab at the profile pic because I had a hunch that’s why they’re defending the post.
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