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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 7, 2021 19:05:51 GMT -5
5. All the villains (Tigerstar, Darkstripe, Scourge, Brokenstar, etc.) are cishet. I don't like seeing minorities portrayed in antagonist roles, and I don't like seeing cishets portrayed in protagonist roles... gray areas are fine, I suppose You do realize a LGBT antag is not bad on principle if they aren't the only one there, right? Villains can be LGBT like the good guys, and frankly, the idea that all bad guys aren't allowed to be ANYTHING but cishet is just reminding me of toxic tumblr warrior fandom days. Also the "not liking cishet in protag roles" is kinda ech to say. Not all protags are gay or bi or whatever, that's just how it be sometimes. Also Tawnypelt is mates with Rowanstar, Jake has been with 2 female mates and is pretty happy with them alongside Tallstar, and Ivypool's mate is Fernsong.
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Non-binary
#F4B548
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Dark Sun
Sage of the Stars
I'm devious, I'm devilish, I'm ever so deliciously evil
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Post by Dark Sun on Jun 7, 2021 19:10:09 GMT -5
5. All the villains (Tigerstar, Darkstripe, Scourge, Brokenstar, etc.) are cishet. I don't like seeing minorities portrayed in antagonist roles, and I don't like seeing cishets portrayed in protagonist roles... gray areas are fine, I suppose You do realize a LGBT antag is not bad on principle if they aren't the only one there, right? Villains can be LGBT like the good guys, and frankly, the idea that all bad guys aren't allowed to be ANYTHING but cishet is just reminding me of toxic tumblr warrior fandom days. Also the "not liking cishet in protag roles" is kinda ech to say. Not all protags are gay or bi or whatever, that's just how it be sometimes. I'm definitely aware of that. Lol But with how minorities are oppressed in the real world and all that, I think it's good to reflect in literature that they aren't "evil" as the common folk would believe. When equality is met, then definitely some villains can be non-cishet and some of the "good guys" can be cishet, but right now I feel like there's more important messages to put forth. Just my opinion though, people can write whatever they want, but it's not something I would personally do since we live in delicate times. Also, thanks for the corrections.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 7, 2021 19:18:56 GMT -5
You do realize a LGBT antag is not bad on principle if they aren't the only one there, right? Villains can be LGBT like the good guys, and frankly, the idea that all bad guys aren't allowed to be ANYTHING but cishet is just reminding me of toxic tumblr warrior fandom days. Also the "not liking cishet in protag roles" is kinda ech to say. Not all protags are gay or bi or whatever, that's just how it be sometimes. I'm definitely aware of that. Lol But with how minorities are oppressed in the real world and all that, I think it's good to reflect in literature that they aren't "evil" as the common folk would believe. When equality is met, then definitely some villains can be non-cishet and some of the "good guys" can be cishet, but right now I feel like there's more important messages to put forth. Just my opinion though, people can write whatever they want, but it's not something I would personally do. Also, thanks for the corrections. :) You can have "equality" without reducing "teh evil beings" to just nothing but straight cis guys. Speaking as someone who is bi, I do not care if a villain also happens to be bi or gay unless they are the only LGBT character on the roster. If anything, I love LGBT baddies as much as LGBT good guys (I love a bad bitch gal for instance who would just so happen to be bisexual or lesbian, like the Snowfox/Snowflake pair in WOF). I'm not oppressing myself by making that one bad guy bisexual and getting a vibe he/she'd be into more than the opposite gender. Like, I like the version of Disneys' Scar that WASN'T No-Homo'd tyvm.Hell, the one person I know that reduced each and every villain to cis straight men while making everyone else was a certain infamous bigname from tumblr I will not say here but if you know you know. It just reminds me of them.Like, I HC Darkstripe as gay, Scourge as bi and trans, Tigerstar as bi aro, etc. Alongside those villain LGBT HCs I have like 5-6 good guy HCs each. I want positive LGBT rep as much as you, but absolutely Nobody is depicting LGBT folks as evil by HCing villains alongside good guys as LGBT, and frankly the idea of that makes no sense whatsoever to me whenever I hear it.
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Non-binary
#F4B548
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Dark Sun
Sage of the Stars
I'm devious, I'm devilish, I'm ever so deliciously evil
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Post by Dark Sun on Jun 7, 2021 19:23:33 GMT -5
I'm definitely aware of that. Lol But with how minorities are oppressed in the real world and all that, I think it's good to reflect in literature that they aren't "evil" as the common folk would believe. When equality is met, then definitely some villains can be non-cishet and some of the "good guys" can be cishet, but right now I feel like there's more important messages to put forth. Just my opinion though, people can write whatever they want, but it's not something I would personally do. Also, thanks for the corrections. You can have "equality" without reducing "teh evil beings" to just nothing but straight cis guys. Speaking as someone who is bi, I do not care if a villain also happens to be bi or gay unless they are the only LGBT character on the roster. If anything, I love LGBT baddies as much as LGBT good guys (I love a bad bitch gal for instance who would just so happen to be bisexual or lesbian, like the Snowfox/Snowflake pair in WOF). I'm not oppressing myself by making that one bad guy bisexual and getting a vibe he/she'd be into more than the opposite gender. Like, I like the version of Disneys' Scar that WASN'T No-Homo'd tyvm.Like, I HC Darkstripe as gay, Scourge as bi and trans, Tigerstar as biromantic ace, etc. Alongside those villain LGBT HCs I have like 5-6 good guy HCs each. I want positive LGBT rep as much as you, but absolutely Nobody is depicting LGBT folks as evil by HCing villains alongside good guys as LGBT, and frankly the idea of that makes no sense whatsoever to me whenever I hear it. I disagree with you solely based on the times we live in (like if equality was met tomorrow *snap of the fingers* I would have no issue with it), but let's not end this in some bitter spat. How about we just say, "agree to disagree"? Again I'm not saying "this should never be done", but more "I would never do it (until equality is met)". To each their own and all that.
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Post by Amber on Jun 7, 2021 19:46:05 GMT -5
Decided to dig up an old list for this when I was interested in Warriors because I was bored, for my enjoyment going down memory lane, and it's pride month, so why not?
Briarlight- Asexual demipanromantic Dovewing- Bisexual graybiromantic Ivypool- Bisexual biromantic Hollyleaf- Asexual aromantic or biromantic Firestar- Bisexual graybiromantic Leafpool- Bisexual biromantic Jayfeather- Asexual demiromantic, demiboy Mousefur- Asexual aromantic Cinderpelt- Asexual aromantic Stormtail- Heterosexual aromantic Ravenpaw- Gay oriented demisexual demiromantic Redtail- Bisexual biromantic, trans Rowanclaw- Bisexual biromantic, genderfluid Leafstar- Hetero oriented asexual aromantic Tawnypelt- Bi oriented asexual aromantic Goldenflower- Asexual grayromantic Tigerstar- Bisexual aromantic Lionblaze- Asexual biromantic Cinderheart- Demisexual demiromantic
So many ace and/or aro headcanons because I can and I would love to see more ace/aro/acearo characters/headcanons that don't fall under the cold, grumpy, and rude stereotypes. Anyway, still love DoveBriar and I kind of have a soft spot for Redtail/Runningwind/Brindleface and also Cloudtail/Brightheart/Swiftpaw in AUs.
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Post by crispyfriedtoes on Jul 2, 2021 19:37:25 GMT -5
transgender redtail to explain why he's described as a calico tom which is an extremely rare occurrence, especially in the wild.
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Bisexual
#64C7FF
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finland
Porgs are love
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Post by finland on Jul 4, 2021 9:31:17 GMT -5
Genderfluid Mosskit using any pronouns
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jul 5, 2021 6:52:16 GMT -5
My headcanons: - Lesbian Mothwing - Demisexual Ravenpaw - Transgender River Ripple - Gay Tallstar - Asexual Mousefur - Bisexual Leafpool - Pansexual Jake - Aromantic Hollyleaf - Gay Redtail - Pansexual Alderheart - Bisexual Squirrelflight - Heteroromantic gay Blackstar - Transgender Sagewhisker - Gay Kestrelflight - Gay Darkstripe - Bisexual Whitestorm - Pansexual Dovewing - Gay Lightning Tail - Bisexual Gray Wing - Aromantic Tall Shadow - Omnisexual Bluestar - Lesbian Sleekwhisker - Queer Violetshine - Neptunic Cinderheart - Asexual Twigbranch - Aegoromantic Hawkfrost - Polyamorous Firestar - Non-binary Puddleshine - Pansexual Yellowfang - Greysexual Needletail - Lithromantic Jayfeather - Demisexual Crookedstar - Bisexual Mapleshade - Lesbian Rosepetal - Gay Demiboy Toadstep - Aromantic bisexual Russetfur - Pansexual Daisy - Biromantic Heterosexual Sharpclaw - Gay Graystripe - Aromantic Spottedleaf - Biromantic Asexual Longtail - Pansexual Tawnypelt - Polysexual Stormcloud - Lesbian Mistystar - Gay Barkface - Neptunic Cloverfoot - Genderfluid Harestar - Gay Runningwind - Transgender Icecloud - Femme lesbian Bumble - Butch bisexual Turtle Tail - Omniromantic Rootspring - Aromantic bisexual Shadowsight - Biromantic Asexual Sol These are all my headcanons, and wow, it really is a lot.
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