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Post by สสแดแดแดแดษด๊ฑแดษด โ on Jun 1, 2021 18:57:43 GMT -5
Which Character do you simply not understand the hype about/hate? And, more specifically, why is it you feel this way?
Personally, mine is Jayfeather. Yes, I can understand why many would and do love him, however I find his attitude really frustrating and borderline disrespectful. And this is coming from someone who can be extremely stubborn.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jun 1, 2021 19:12:54 GMT -5
Ivypool in terms of hype.
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Post by Mothdapple on Jun 1, 2021 19:15:16 GMT -5
I feel like a large portion of the fandom loves Mapleshade, while I hate her.
Going to edit in some more:
โข Nightcloud โข Breezepelt
I donโt HATE these characters but I either dislike or donโt get the hype:
โข Mothwing โข Squirrelflight โข Leopardstar โข Russetfur
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Jun 1, 2021 19:18:49 GMT -5
*screams from the heavens* ivypool, squirrelflight, mothwing, tawnypelt, icewing, minnowtail
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 19:34:49 GMT -5
Hollyleaf, Sol, Honeyfern, Swiftpaw, Mousewhisker, Hazeltail, Nightcloud, Stonefur, Sun Shadow, Sunstar, Featherwhisker, Dovewing, Silverstream, Brackenfur. Majority I don't dislike I just think they're overrated.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 1, 2021 19:41:16 GMT -5
Bristlefrost and Mothwing
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 1, 2021 19:47:43 GMT -5
Needletail and Crowfeather probably, I see alooot of love for them and I just canโt ever. Ew. Hmmm. Probably Jayfeather too.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 1, 2021 19:49:14 GMT -5
I somehow forgot Needletail and Leopardstar. They both get tons of MAPs and seem very well liked. I think they're garbage.
Also, Bluestar
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Post by downfalls on Jun 1, 2021 21:23:58 GMT -5
Leopardstar - It seems that she is losing fans now, but honestly she was a terrible leader. She allied with Tigerstar and let Darkstripe and Blackfoot kill Stonefur and almost kill Mistyfoot.
Dovewing - She's never had many fans, but her fan amount seems to be growing. I always found her a bit whiny and she always acted like she wanted to guilt trip Ivypool.
Crowfeather - Never liked him ever. He's so musty.
Bramblestar - Should I even have to explain this? He's toxic to Squirrelflight even when he wasn't possessed.
Shellfur - His character just appears as NPD. He only cared about HIS OWN PAW when Stemleaf died.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 1, 2021 21:46:14 GMT -5
Ivypool. She's overrated and I don't think she was all that good to Dovewing. I don't HATE Ivypool, but I feel like the Erins could have written her so much better. She didn't do her job, she didn't treat Dovewing well, and got HERSELF involved with the TigerxDove drama. Why is everyone blaming Dovewing? She was the one trying to keep them together, not driving them apart! She's just a jerk, and I'm not fond of her. I respect Ivypool, and I actually like her a lot more in AVoS, and she also has good relationships with Hollyleaf and Fernsong that I enjoyed reading about, but the way how she treats her sister and the fandom praises her for everything she does leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'll never understand why people defend her crappy behavior. I have never seen a fandom excuse a character so much before like they do with Ivypool. "She didn't spy? Dovewing woke her up! It's Dovewing's fault Ivypool is in the Dark Forest! Ivypool was caught by a ShadowClan patrol because of Dovewing! Ivypool is miserable because Dovewing left her! Ivypool does a much better job of spying than Dovewing! Dovewing is so stupid, Ivypool is so much smarter! Ivypool is soooo worried about Dovewing, I understand why she's yelling at her! Dovewing has no right to have feelings or be attached to Tigerheart!" Like goodness gracious, I've seen all of it. Dovewing making poor choices doesn't mean Ivypool is right about everything.
Mapleshade. She's obnoxious, doesn't think ahead of time, selfish, delusional, and dumb. I hate her and everyone loves and pities her. She brought so much shit on her own. No, I obviously do not believe a queen deserves to be exiled with her kits, but Mapleshade took her kits to the river outside of camp, forced them to swim when one of them knew it wasn't safe, acted really gross and possessive with Appledusk, planned to tell the truth right from the beginning, used Frecklewish's feelings to get her way, and overall a terrible person. She didn't care about anyone but herself. Everyone gives her behavior a free pass because she was exiled, and I'm sorry that happened, but honestly? If she didn't break the code in the first place then none of this would've happened.
Breezepelt: He's treated as a gentle, big soft bby with a heart of gold but the guy was a malicious murderer. He isn't a baby; he's a vengeful cat. The fact that he attempted to kill several cats and had failed plans doesn't mean he's innocent either. Yes, it's great he changed, it's great that he saw he was wrong, but nothing excuses what he's done.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 1, 2021 21:48:11 GMT -5
Bristlefrost and Mothwing Curious why you hate Bristlefrost
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jun 1, 2021 21:52:08 GMT -5
Leopardstar - It seems that she is losing fans now, but honestly she was a terrible leader. Shellfur - His character just appears as NPD. He only cared about HIS OWN PAW when Stemleaf died. Now? I don't think Leopardstar has ever really had that many fans, at least not when compared to her haters anyway, or I'm just not looking hard enough, but she's always been pretty unpopular from what I've seen. And I didn't even know Shellfur ever had any fans to begin with.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jun 1, 2021 21:58:52 GMT -5
Bristlefrost and Mothwing Curious why you hate Bristlefrost I find her boring and extremely agitating. Everything about her grates on me.
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Post by Aqua on Jun 1, 2021 22:08:03 GMT -5
Curious why you hate Bristlefrost I find her boring and extremely agitating. Everything about her grates on me. Interesting opinion. I personally see her as an annoying romantic. I know there's some characters I like who's like that, but Bristlefrost doesn't even have a character to her like the others do. I loved Bristlefrost at the beginning because she felt so much more than just a person who loved Stemleaf ; she was ambitious and very mature for her age, and I admired that quite a bit in her character. Too bad the writers wasted that. She could have been so interesting.
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Post by whiteflight on Jun 1, 2021 23:45:46 GMT -5
Squrrielflight, Mothwing, Nightcloud, Mapleshade, Sol, Dovewing, and Breezepelt.
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Post by โ
Maplefrostโ
on Jun 2, 2021 1:49:31 GMT -5
I think the only one that comes to mind is probably Squirrelflight, lol.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jun 2, 2021 7:24:34 GMT -5
Feathertail. I definitely don't hate her, not even dislike, but never understood the hype, even after her own graphic novel.
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Post by Rainsplash on Jun 2, 2021 7:49:51 GMT -5
Cats I HATE? Nightcloud, Breezepelt, Mapleshade, and Needletail come to mind. Ohh and Hollyleaf and Jayfeather. For Nightcloud, Breezepelt, and Needletail, they're treated like they've done nothing wrong by the narrative, and for Mapleshade, I cannot justify her in any way but her fans, who defend her that she was oh so justified in killings, annoy me so much. Hollyleaf is a hypocrite and her attitude doesn't go well with me. The thing that her redemption wasn't done fully doesn't help. Like OP said, I think Jayfeather's rudeness is over the top. Yellowfang's I can handle, because I could see int the text that she was actually caring. But Jayfeather's retorts are just rudeness, and over-defensiveness, with a sarcastic manner. Don't appreciate that very much.
The cats I think are overhyped? Honeyfern, Feathertail, and Ivypool. Honeyfern was a developed background character. I agree. So were Icecloud, Foxleap, Hazeltail, etc. But there is not a reason she should be considered... like... I don't see why she should be the ultimate favorite, and while I don't see her fierce attractiveness, it's kind of annoying after a few months of hearing why Honeyfern's amazing. Feathertail was interesting in her graphic novel, yes, but I don't really think she should get all that... hype and love... It seems too much.
Ivypool. As I always say, she's overrated about her spying (Which she was useless at), and about the DoveTiger drama (She was so nice about it) and how she was "always in the right" In DoveIvy drama (Which, really, is not true)... Her fans really ruin her for me. She was too aggressive and her useless spying and her refusing to actually communicate with Dovewing is so frustrating.
+Forgot about Mothwing. I don't like her
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Jun 2, 2021 9:11:24 GMT -5
Tigerstar 2 and Mothwing
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Post by ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ on Jun 2, 2021 10:31:31 GMT -5
Ivypool and Needletail.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Jun 2, 2021 10:50:17 GMT -5
Ivypool and Dovewing. There's sooo many videos about them too yet barely any vids about much better characters
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Post by Card against Humanity on Jun 2, 2021 11:03:35 GMT -5
crowfeather
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 2, 2021 11:39:44 GMT -5
The best part about this thread is circa 50% of them are characters everyone hates to begin with or else have very few defenders.
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:41 GMT -5
While I no longer hate both Blackstar and Leopardstar, I'm not really having much love for them either.
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Post by Seven on Jun 2, 2021 19:47:44 GMT -5
Mothwing and Nightcloud, at least in other parts of the fandom
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Post by sonofaratfacedeel on Jun 3, 2021 12:19:05 GMT -5
I don't hate her but I'm not a big fan of Briarlight like a lot of people seem to be. She just seems like a discount Cinderpelt to me but nowhere near as much of a character.
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Post by cygna on Jun 3, 2021 15:51:48 GMT -5
No one will ever want to interact with me ever again for saying this but...
Firestar, Sandstorm, Squirrelflight, & Leafpool - They are all way too overrated in my opinion. I feel like everyone loves the when they aren't even that special. I used to like Firestar and still don't hate him but I think he's incredibly bland. I used to think Sandstorm didn't deserve Firestar since she was really mean to him UNTIL he saves her which is super cliche. After the first arc she was cool since I was only getting her in small doses. Squirrelflight has some redeeming qualities and some very emotional moments but I never cared for her and always found her getting under my skin. The fact that I'm STILL reading about her when I don't want to irritates me even more. Leafpool has to be the worst of them all for me. I've met too many people(not exactly on this forum) telling me how great she is when I find her to be one of the most awful characters I've read about and the constant praise for her drives me crazy. I think she was a horrible mate, a horrible mother, and a horrible sister by forcing her problems onto Squirrelflight.
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Post by ๐ฅFirestar๐ฅ on Jun 3, 2021 15:56:20 GMT -5
No one will ever want to interact with me ever again for saying this but... Firestar, Sandstorm, Squirrelflight, & Leafpool - They are all way too overrated in my opinion. I feel like everyone loves the when they aren't even that special. I used to like Firestar and still don't hate him but I think he's incredibly bland. I used to think Sandstorm didn't deserve Firestar since she was really mean to him UNTIL he saves her which is super cliche. After the first arc she was cool since I was only getting her in small doses. Squirrelflight has some redeeming qualities and some very emotional moments but I never cared for her and always found her getting under my skin. The fact that I'm STILL reading about her when I don't want to irritates me even more. Leafpool has to be the worst of them all for me. I've met too many people(not exactly on this forum) telling me how great she is when I find her to be one of the most awful characters I've read about and the constant praise for her drives me crazy. I think she was a horrible mate, a horrible mother, and a horrible sister by forcing her problems onto Squirrelflight. That's a really unpopular opinion/take on them! I don't see many people dislking all these characters together often.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Jun 3, 2021 17:15:15 GMT -5
Dovewing, Ivypool, and Squirrelflight.
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