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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:11:00 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 It's a part from a Crookedstar MAP called Amen. The MAP call says 2018 but I don't think it's out though.
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Post by Mothdapple on May 14, 2021 20:14:07 GMT -5
I wonder if there’ll be some kind of friendship between Flamepaw and Spotfur’s kits considering both of their fathers died when/before they were born. If Mothwing goes back to Riverclan I wonder how she’ll deal with the trauma of losing Willowshine while having to train Frostpaw. I wonder if Mothwing will die during Frostpaw’s training. That would definitely be interesting.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on May 14, 2021 21:56:42 GMT -5
Beautiful cover! And we finally have a RiverClan POV in the main books! Mistystar is free to kick the bucket now.
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Post by fire on May 14, 2021 22:13:30 GMT -5
Talk about motivation for me to continue catching up on the series.
A RiverClan POV is very nice. Sunbeam, I'm not too familiar with, so I can't say much about that. Also, Flamepaw struggling with his legacy is very interesting to me, even though it's unoriginal and I can see why some wouldn't like it; I just like stuff like that.
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Post by Mistybreeze on May 14, 2021 23:42:21 GMT -5
Wow, okay. Wow. I never thought they'd actually do it. But we got it. A RiverClan POV. I still can't believe it.
Now on to the POVs.
Frostpaw sounds adorable. Her POV is going to be fun to read.
Since they were born, I had assumed one of Sparkpelt's kits would be an arc 8 POV. But then TBC focused so much on Spotfur's kits that I assumed Finch and Flame had been forgotten by the editors. So I'm gonna call it now- Spot kit POV for arc 9. And why is he still an apprentice? He should be getting his warrior name any day now. Looks like there's no timeskip this time.
A Sunbeam POV is completely out of left field. I have no idea what they are going to do with her, but I am so happy they picked someone with a great name. That said, I am disappointed to see the SkyClan POV go. I hope we keep full allegiances for them.
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Post by scint on May 15, 2021 2:01:16 GMT -5
huh, i didn't think they'd actually give RiverClan a pov. might actually read this arc if not for that. kind of wish a WindClan cat also got a pov this arc but. eh i'll wait and see what happens with the povs in this arc
the choice of povs sounds interesting, especially interested to see what happens with Frostpaw and Sunbeam since they're pretty much blank slates. surprised a Spot kit (or a Root x Bristle kit for that matter) isn't a pov, as well as the fact that Frostpaw just now seemed to become an apprentice and that Flamepaw is still an apprentice - i'm guessing it'll take place some time soon after tbc? either way it'll be interesting to see the Clans during the aftermath of tbc
honestly just kind of hoping that there's no romance between the povs since i'm personally not a big fan of that but. i feel like i'm getting my hopes up too much just by saying that lol
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Post by Rio on May 15, 2021 4:11:23 GMT -5
I wonder if there’ll be some kind of friendship between Flamepaw and Spotfur’s kits considering both of their fathers died when/before they were born. If Mothwing goes back to Riverclan I wonder how she’ll deal with the trauma of losing Willowshine while having to train Frostpaw. I wonder if Mothwing will die during Frostpaw’s training. That would definitely be interesting. Ahh, Frostpaw desperately trying to keep Mothwing alive with her limited training would be such an oof.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on May 15, 2021 4:32:57 GMT -5
I wonder if Mothwing will die during Frostpaw’s training. That would definitely be interesting. Ahh, Frostpaw desperately trying to keep Mothwing alive with her limited training would be such an oof. That would be wild, because i remember making a joke thread about the "release" of the blurb of the book of the 8th arc, and i mentioned one of Curlfeather's kits was going to become a medicine cat apprentice and that their mentor was going to die during their training. it would be crazy to have predicted something.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on May 15, 2021 16:20:56 GMT -5
I love the cover. Mistystar is STILL alive? How? Just how?
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on May 15, 2021 21:44:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure why Mistystar is still alive
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on May 17, 2021 22:47:10 GMT -5
I feel like Mistystar will die in this book. The book is called River, it finally has a RiverClan POV. If Mistystar doesn’t die in this book they better have a damn good explanation for it in the book.
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Post by Cloudy Sky on May 17, 2021 23:02:07 GMT -5
I feel like Mistystar will die in this book. The book is called River, it finally has a RiverClan POV. If Mistystar doesn’t die in this book they better have a damn good explanation for it in the book. Not to mention that Mistystar is front and center on the cover.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on May 17, 2021 23:05:10 GMT -5
The book is called River, it finally has a RiverClan POV. If Mistystar doesn’t die in this book they better have a damn good explanation for it in the book. Not to mention that Mistystar is front and center on the cover. Exactly. The only way they can make her important now is to kill her and maybe make her death like devastating for RiverClan now that we have a RC POV.
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Post by Jaysnow on May 18, 2021 20:07:15 GMT -5
I am rather late, but I wanted to wait a little while for the major hype to subside before posting my thoughts.
Here we go:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
First of all, that is such a badass title for an arc. A Starless Clan is perfect, but I have to wonder about the singular use of "Clan" as opposed to the plural form of the word. Maybe RiverClan is the starless Clan, and due to the events of The Broken Code they've decided to turn their backs on StarClan and the code altogether? And Mistystar dies in River (kind of a nice title, by the way), and StarClan refuses to grant the next leader nine lives or something? I'm not sure, just spitballing theories here. But I'm sure Mistystar will die in River, given her prominence on the cover. The cover is absolutely gorgeous too. Great RiverClanny background with the four cats on it designed so well. Mistystar, Frostpaw, Flamepaw, Sunbeam. After all these years, we FINALLY get RiverClan focus. YES! And RiverClan MCA? Sign me the eff up! I have to say, as a whole, I did not expect any of these cats to be POVs. I was so sure about a Spotfur kit getting a POV for ThunderClan, not Flamepaw. Sunbeam is just out of the blue, but welcomed. Frostpaw as well, just perfect. Great name too. Very excited for all the POVs, intrigued by Frostpaw the most but I'm excited to meet all three.
Now, onto the blurb: "A dark age has given way to an era of peace in the five warrior Clans, and with it comes a promise of hope. As their leaders deliberate on unprecedented changes to the warrior code, three young warriors set their paws on the paths that will decide their futures." "In ThunderClan, warrior apprentice Flamepaw, a descendant of the legendary leader Firestar, struggles under the weight of his famous kin’s legacy, while young ShadowClan warrior Sunbeam has doubts of her own. But in RiverClan, medicine cat apprentice Frostpaw looks eagerly toward the horizon, awaiting the day she will be called upon to help her Clan—a day that may dawn sooner than she ever dreamed."
So obviously, Ashfur has been defeated by this point. I wonder how long is the time between ALIM and River? It's awesome to see that changes to the warrior code have been confirmed. It'll be neat to see what is changed. Major or minor?
Flamepaw's stuff seems interesting- he never knew Firestar, so it could be interesting to see how he handles his legacy. Very unexpected for the TC protagonist. It'll be great to see how ThunderClan deals with the fallout of TBC. Sunbeam's stuff is vague, but I'm excited to meet her as well. She has a really cool name, especially when you factor in the Clan she hails from. FROSTPAW! Hyped to learn what the books have in store for her as well.
All in all, arc 8 looks super promising. November can't come fast enough.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on May 20, 2021 16:31:58 GMT -5
Agreed! I can't wait for the quotes and the preview for ALITM to posted to the warriors website! I am guessing Early-October 2021 is when A Light In The Mist's preview will release (If there will be a preview and then Erins don't hold the book back all the way to the release day). I have learned not to go off past years releases of previews.
As for the quotes to be released, I would guess mid to late October 2021.
I'm excited for A Light In The Mist to release so we can see how the Clans get StarClan back and defeat Ashfur!
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 11, 2021 16:33:39 GMT -5
Ahh, I remember the excitement for this a month ago nearly.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 11, 2021 18:12:09 GMT -5
That cover is gorgeous! As for our POVs: Flamepaw is still an apprentice? Hm. Seems he never got his warrior name at the end of TBC, despite DK hinting that both he and sister will soon. He has amber eyes on the cover. Sunbeam was an extremely unexpected pick. I've always loved her name and I can't wait to see more of her. Again, amber eyes. Frostpaw! For no apparent reason, I wanted this one in particular to be a major character. And I got my wish. I can't wait for us to go into RC. Maybe we'll even get a father for her? I think she has green eyes, but I can't tell what her pelt colour is. With Flamepaw, he might have gotten his warrior name but the authors might not of wanted to spoil it in the blurb, so they called him "Flamepaw".
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 11, 2021 18:25:29 GMT -5
That cover is gorgeous! As for our POVs: Flamepaw is still an apprentice? Hm. Seems he never got his warrior name at the end of TBC, despite DK hinting that both he and sister will soon. He has amber eyes on the cover. Sunbeam was an extremely unexpected pick. I've always loved her name and I can't wait to see more of her. Again, amber eyes. Frostpaw! For no apparent reason, I wanted this one in particular to be a major character. And I got my wish. I can't wait for us to go into RC. Maybe we'll even get a father for her? I think she has green eyes, but I can't tell what her pelt colour is. With Flamepaw, he might have gotten his warrior name but the authors might not of wanted to spoil it in the blurb, so they called him "Flamepaw". That doesn't really make any sense, given what the entire point of a blurb is. It's more likely Flamepaw either had a delayed apprenticeship or this is simply another mistake.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 11, 2021 18:29:10 GMT -5
With Flamepaw, he might have gotten his warrior name but the authors might not of wanted to spoil it in the blurb, so they called him "Flamepaw". That doesn't really make any sense, given what the entire point of a blurb is. It's more likely Flamepaw either had a delayed apprenticeship or this is simply another mistake. What is the mistake?
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 11, 2021 18:34:18 GMT -5
That doesn't really make any sense, given what the entire point of a blurb is. It's more likely Flamepaw either had a delayed apprenticeship or this is simply another mistake. What is the mistake? Cats get unintentionally delayed apprenticeships all the time in the series because the authors and editors can't keep track of the timeline. This is probably the case with Flamepaw if he's still an apprentice even after TBC, unless this gets explained in the text itself.
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Post by yondertides on Jun 11, 2021 21:48:38 GMT -5
I am ECSTATIC over finally having a Riverclan POV. Not only that, but a medicine cat who actually seems like she wants to be a medicine cat, and not some cat who was forced into it or just felt like they were bad at warrior training.
I really do hope the authors take this chance to start individualizing the clans again. Like, I have vague memories of Riverclan being rather artsy compared to other clans in that they decorated their dens. I think it'd be such a breath of fresh air to see more diverse cultures amongst the separate clans.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 12, 2021 15:04:12 GMT -5
I remember trying to see the reveal but the site was not loading. We were all going crazy over the reveal of the first book in A Starless Clan.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 12, 2021 23:42:28 GMT -5
Cats get unintentionally delayed apprenticeships all the time in the series because the authors and editors can't keep track of the timeline. This is probably the case with Flamepaw if he's still an apprentice even after TBC, unless this gets explained in the text itself. I suppose in universe you could argue it's because the Clans (especially ThunderClan) are a bit distracted with Ashfur returning to wreck havoc and bring literal hell to them. Making new warriors isn't exactly high on their priority list.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 12, 2021 23:44:24 GMT -5
Cats get unintentionally delayed apprenticeships all the time in the series because the authors and editors can't keep track of the timeline. This is probably the case with Flamepaw if he's still an apprentice even after TBC, unless this gets explained in the text itself. I suppose in universe you could argue it's because the Clans (especially ThunderClan) are a bit distracted with Ashfur returning to wreck havoc and bring literal hell to them. Making new warriors isn't exactly high on their priority list. That's exactly what I'm hoping what happened. Hopefully it'll be given an in-universe explanation and not just ignored.
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 13, 2021 11:54:16 GMT -5
Cats get unintentionally delayed apprenticeships all the time in the series because the authors and editors can't keep track of the timeline. This is probably the case with Flamepaw if he's still an apprentice even after TBC, unless this gets explained in the text itself. I suppose in universe you could argue it's because the Clans (especially ThunderClan) are a bit distracted with Ashfur returning to wreck havoc and bring literal hell to them. Making new warriors isn't exactly high on their priority list. Oh but WindClan made Appleshine and Woodsong warriors in the middle of this conflict.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Jun 14, 2021 3:21:30 GMT -5
With Flamepaw, he might have gotten his warrior name but the authors might not of wanted to spoil it in the blurb, so they called him "Flamepaw". That doesn't really make any sense, given what the entire point of a blurb is. It's more likely Flamepaw either had a delayed apprenticeship or this is simply another mistake. No, they've done this before. HJ's first blurb referred to Hawkwing as Hawkpaw. They later released a second blurb before the book came out which spoiled both his warrior name and his position as deputy. This definitely could be the case with Flamepaw.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 14, 2021 8:47:07 GMT -5
That doesn't really make any sense, given what the entire point of a blurb is. It's more likely Flamepaw either had a delayed apprenticeship or this is simply another mistake. No, they've done this before. HJ's first blurb referred to Hawkwing as Hawkpaw. They later released a second blurb before the book came out which spoiled both his warrior name and his position as deputy. This definitely could be the case with Flamepaw. We'll probably get his warrior name in a later blurb and I've personally been wary of taking them at face value ever since DW, but regardless, HJ was an SE and I'm talking about the main arc alone. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the title of the SE/his warrior name revealed at the same time or at least not long after the first blurb anyway? I remember some people being confused who Hawkwing was until the second blurb clarified it later on. And even if this isn't accurate, it's not like Hawkwing's warrior name was some big mystery, either, because, again, the title. The title would've spoiled his warrior name anyway, unless they'd pulled an SD, which of course didn't happen. The main books aren't given the same treatment.
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Post by Jaysnow on Jun 14, 2021 9:23:46 GMT -5
No, they've done this before. HJ's first blurb referred to Hawkwing as Hawkpaw. They later released a second blurb before the book came out which spoiled both his warrior name and his position as deputy. This definitely could be the case with Flamepaw. We'll probably get his warrior name in a later blurb and I've personally been wary of taking them at face value ever since DW, but regardless, HJ was an SE and I'm talking about the main arc alone. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the title of the SE/his warrior name revealed at the same time or at least not long after the first blurb anyway? I remember some people being confused who Hawkwing was until the second blurb clarified it later on. And even if this isn't accurate, it's not like Hawkwing's warrior name was some big mystery, either, because, again, the title. The title would've spoiled his warrior name anyway, unless they'd pulled an SD, which of course didn't happen. The main books aren't given the same treatment. I do remember specifically for HJ's case the name of the book had come out on the HC website before a blurb. It used to happen sometimes. People weren't sure if Hawkwing was Hawkstar of ancient SkyClan or Hawkpaw from Ravenpaw's Farewell. It wasn't until the first blurb was released that we knew for sure it was the latter.
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