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Post by unfilteredangst on May 1, 2021 12:37:28 GMT -5
Are there certain trends in Warriors rewrites that irk you or taint the project? For me, I'd have to say that if the author of the rewrite is a cocky asshat who thinks they're immune from critique because they're fixing a series that isn't perfect, I am very much turned away from their work because I know there that it comes from deep spite against the Erins. Hell, I even saw a rewrite blog on Tumblr that said that they were "better than Erin Hunter in everyway and that is a fact". Like, that's just weird. :/
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Post by Card against Humanity on May 1, 2021 12:54:08 GMT -5
in general i dislike it in rewrites when its painfully obvious that the author favours/dislikes certain characters
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Post by unfilteredangst on May 1, 2021 12:58:26 GMT -5
in general i dislike it in rewrites when its painfully obvious that the author favours/dislikes certain characters Oof yeah, that does suck. People just need to set aside their biases and find out what's best for a character when rewriting a piece of work.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 1, 2021 13:01:39 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on rewrites where they give ie: Tallstar a she-cat mate. Tying into that, rewrites that change the gender of a cat to fit a ship that the person writing it deems acceptable. IE: I once read this re-write, where Firestar was a she-cat, she and Dustpelt were mates, as were Sandstorm and Ravenpaw.
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Post by unfilteredangst on May 1, 2021 13:09:58 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on rewrites where they give ie: Tallstar a she-cat mate. Tying into that, rewrites that change the gender of a cat to fit a ship that the person writing it deems acceptable. IE: I once read this re-write, where Firestar was a she-cat, she and Dustpelt were mates, as were Sandstorm and Ravenpaw. ._. Ok, bold and weird rewrite choices but, go off ig.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 1, 2021 13:12:54 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on rewrites where they give ie: Tallstar a she-cat mate. Tying into that, rewrites that change the gender of a cat to fit a ship that the person writing it deems acceptable. IE: I once read this re-write, where Firestar was a she-cat, she and Dustpelt were mates, as were Sandstorm and Ravenpaw. ._. Ok, bold and weird rewrite choices but, go off ig. ???? Did you misread my post, or am I misreading the tone of yours?
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Post by unfilteredangst on May 1, 2021 13:23:49 GMT -5
._. Ok, bold and weird rewrite choices but, go off ig. ???? Did you misread my post, or am I misreading the tone of yours? Sorry, I was commenting about the person who decided to write what you said into their rewrite, I wasn't talking about you. Sorry m8, I should have made it clear.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 1, 2021 13:25:13 GMT -5
???? Did you misread my post, or am I misreading the tone of yours? Sorry, I was commenting about the person who decided to write what you said into their rewrite, I wasn't talking about you. Sorry m8, I should have made it clear. Ohh, you're cool, part of me wondered if that's what you meant, but I wasn't sure.
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Post by Card against Humanity on May 1, 2021 13:27:25 GMT -5
in general i dislike it in rewrites when its painfully obvious that the author favours/dislikes certain characters Oof yeah, that does suck. People just need to set aside their biases and find out what's best for a character when rewriting a piece of work. Yeah i understand focusing more on characters you like but its irritating when the author flanderizes a characters personality just because they personally don't like them
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Post by Cheetahstar on May 1, 2021 13:45:04 GMT -5
medicine cat hollyleaf is a big one that i keep seeing
feels like it goes against her character arc, she didnt' wanna be a med cat for good reasons...
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Post by unfilteredangst on May 1, 2021 13:48:57 GMT -5
medicine cat hollyleaf is a big one that i keep seeing feels like it goes against her character arc, she didnt' wanna be a med cat for good reasons... Yeah, last time I remembered, she wanted to be one at first, but then realized she sucked at it and changed.
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Post by Cheetahstar on May 1, 2021 13:58:06 GMT -5
medicine cat hollyleaf is a big one that i keep seeing feels like it goes against her character arc, she didnt' wanna be a med cat for good reasons... Yeah, last time I remembered, she wanted to be one at first, but then realized she sucked at it and changed. yep
and if i recall correctly she didn't wanna do it to help cats per say, more so to help feel important
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Post by Skypaw13 on May 1, 2021 14:04:43 GMT -5
When I see a very obvious political bias from the author and all the characters and plots have been molded to push a particular narrative because the author genuinely can't comprehend people who have different beliefs than them, that's pretty annoying.
Part of that is just not being able to get their messages across subtly enough, admittedly. But still, if I detect message-pushing, I tend to stop reading.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 1, 2021 14:20:58 GMT -5
Mischaracterization, obviously bias plot points (especially political ones), overly aggressive treatment against characters the author hates, and very bad ship takes tbh--this goes double for ships that invalidate a characters orientation.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 1, 2021 15:05:53 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on rewrites where they give ie: Tallstar a she-cat mate. Tying into that, rewrites that change the gender of a cat to fit a ship that the person writing it deems acceptable. IE: I once read this re-write, where Firestar was a she-cat, she and Dustpelt were mates, as were Sandstorm and Ravenpaw. I've actually stumbled across a rewrite of the entire first series and beyond where Firestar is also a she cat and gets together with Tigerstar: m.fanfiction.net/s/12000841/1/Heart-of-Fire-Fire-and-IceThere is no real introduction to the story though as it actually starts with Fire and Ice instead of Into the Wild. I agree with everyone who has already stated that changing a cats gender or the orientation of characters that have been canonically depicted to be gay is also something that only works for me with the former on some occasions and not at all with the latter, so giving Tallstar or Ravenpaw/Barley a she cat as a mate is just not it for me personally.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 15:07:16 GMT -5
Alongside a lot of the things that have been mentioned already here, more "realism" being used just for shock value and to make it seem more ~dark and gritty~. Especially when it's just...not even right and it's even more painfully obvious that they just wanted to seem cool and edgy.
I'm also not a fan of rewrites that are so far removed from canon that they may as well be something totally new. They're not, like, automatically terrible, it's just never what I'm looking for in warrior cats writing.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 1, 2021 15:19:43 GMT -5
I'm not too keen on rewrites where they give ie: Tallstar a she-cat mate. Tying into that, rewrites that change the gender of a cat to fit a ship that the person writing it deems acceptable. IE: I once read this re-write, where Firestar was a she-cat, she and Dustpelt were mates, as were Sandstorm and Ravenpaw. I've actually stumbled across a rewrite of the entire first series and beyond where Firestar is also a she cat and gets together with Tigerstar: m.fanfiction.net/s/12000841/1/Heart-of-Fire-Fire-and-IceThere is no real introduction to the story though as it actually starts with Fire and Ice instead of Into the Wild. I agree with everyone who has already stated that changing a cats gender or the orientation of characters that have been canonically depicted to be gay is also something that only works for me with the former on some occasions and not at all with the latter, so giving Tallstar or Ravenpaw/Barley a she cat as a mate is just not it for me personally. I should be surprised by Firestar x Tigerstar, but enemies to lovers is a popular romance trope esp in fanfic. If you ever read HP fanfic, most of it is Harry x Draco. I don't really feel like reading tonight, but I will check out the fic tomorrow. Yeah, it's not for me either, I don't really like re-writes that completely change the character of the character.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 1, 2021 15:25:23 GMT -5
I've actually stumbled across a rewrite of the entire first series and beyond where Firestar is also a she cat and gets together with Tigerstar: m.fanfiction.net/s/12000841/1/Heart-of-Fire-Fire-and-IceThere is no real introduction to the story though as it actually starts with Fire and Ice instead of Into the Wild. I agree with everyone who has already stated that changing a cats gender or the orientation of characters that have been canonically depicted to be gay is also something that only works for me with the former on some occasions and not at all with the latter, so giving Tallstar or Ravenpaw/Barley a she cat as a mate is just not it for me personally. I should be surprised by Firestar x Tigerstar, but enemies to lovers is a popular romance trope esp in fanfic. If you ever read HP fanfic, most of it is Harry x Draco. I don't really feel like reading tonight, but I will check out the fic tomorrow. Yeah, it's not for me either, I don't really like re-writes that completely change the character of the character. Tigerstar x Firestar is something I've shipped delusionally every since being an edgy/angsty teen and it apparently hasn't stopped yet so that's a bit of a problem. But not really surprising as this is also coming from someone whose first email adress was literally just Tigerstar's name.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 1, 2021 15:27:13 GMT -5
I should be surprised by Firestar x Tigerstar, but enemies to lovers is a popular romance trope esp in fanfic. If you ever read HP fanfic, most of it is Harry x Draco. I don't really feel like reading tonight, but I will check out the fic tomorrow. Yeah, it's not for me either, I don't really like re-writes that completely change the character of the character. Tigerstar x Firestar is something I've shipped delusionally every since being an edgy/angsty teen and it apparently hasn't stopped yet so that's a bit of a problem. But not really surprising as this is also coming from someone whose first email adress was literally just Tigerstar's name. That name wasn't taken already? Honestly, I never considered Firestar x Tigerstar as a ship, I'm not keen on shipping characters who are already in loving relationships, but it is something to think about.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on May 1, 2021 15:40:16 GMT -5
Tigerstar x Firestar is something I've shipped delusionally every since being an edgy/angsty teen and it apparently hasn't stopped yet so that's a bit of a problem. But not really surprising as this is also coming from someone whose first email adress was literally just Tigerstar's name. That name wasn't taken already? Honestly, I never considered Firestar x Tigerstar as a ship, I'm not keen on shipping characters who are already in loving relationships, but it is something to think about. It wasn't taken by someone else, no. I don't think that Tigerstar x Firestar could ever love each other, at least not in a healthy way during canon so the fanon and AUs/Rewrites are really what still make this ship so interesting, to me personally. There are just so many possibilities and ideas to be discovered and explored/expanded on further. The enemys to lovers trope/dynamic never fails to amaze me.
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Post by vectoring34 on May 1, 2021 16:22:58 GMT -5
Using the word rewrite when they mean AU for one thing is already pretty much making your story dead to me. Even just the word rewrite to me smacks of pompousness but it's tolerably so if it's not just a blatant AU masquerading as one.
Excess realism is silly, especially regarding kitting and the behavior of male toms.
Renaming is always a bad sign, I don't want an index to look at changed character names.
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Post by Mothdapple on May 1, 2021 17:06:21 GMT -5
Like some said earlier, I don’t like rewrites that a clearly biased towards or against a certain character(s).
Also big changes to personality traits of characters are a no to me. Sorry, I just can’t imagine an anxious and cautious Lionblaze. That’s not even Lionblaze anymore
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 1, 2021 18:56:41 GMT -5
When the Clans' political/social structure is changed so it fits the author's preferred political/social structure, and it's pushed aggressively throughout the rewrite. I came here to read a fictional story about cats, not politics.
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Post by Ghost/Aster on May 1, 2021 20:50:31 GMT -5
When the Clans' political/social structure is changed so it fits the author's preferred political/social structure, and it's pushed aggressively throughout the rewrite. I came here to read a fictional story about cats, not politics. I don't think I'd really like those kind of rewrites, but I haven't read any of those kind yet. If you want to do something based off of your preferred structure, make your own group of cats.
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Post by scint on May 1, 2021 21:41:07 GMT -5
honestly it's most of the stuff already said here but renaming especially because it's one i remember seeing the most from what i've read
i generally don't mind it but when i need to constantly look back at the allegiances just to tell who is who and it feels like there's no reason for it, then i'm going to hate it because that's unnecessary imo
and the biases for/against certain characters also really gets to me.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on May 1, 2021 22:40:04 GMT -5
When the characters are OOC it instantly turns me away. For example, i once saw a fanfic where Dovewing was openly talking bad about her sister and shaming her when she wouldn't do that in canon, especially in public.
When people change the names so much i have to constantly check the allegiances to see who is who. It gets even worse when they change a character's appereance. If i see Bluestar's appereance being changed to tortoiseshell, sorry but i can't picture her that way.
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Post by fishbreeze on May 2, 2021 10:09:17 GMT -5
honestly it's most of the stuff already said here but renaming especially because it's one i remember seeing the most from what i've read i generally don't mind it but when i need to constantly look back at the allegiances just to tell who is who and it feels like there's no reason for it, then i'm going to hate it because that's unnecessary imo and the biases for/against certain characters also really gets to me. I once saw a TR rewrite and they had changed Hickorynose's name to Hazelnose like why? Hickorynose is so much more unique, and like what's wrong with Hickory that isn't wrong with Hazel? They're both trees.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 2, 2021 12:59:08 GMT -5
honestly it's most of the stuff already said here but renaming especially because it's one i remember seeing the most from what i've read i generally don't mind it but when i need to constantly look back at the allegiances just to tell who is who and it feels like there's no reason for it, then i'm going to hate it because that's unnecessary imo and the biases for/against certain characters also really gets to me. I once saw a TR rewrite and they had changed Hickorynose's name to Hazelnose like why? Hickorynose is so much more unique, and like what's wrong with Hickory that isn't wrong with Hazel? They're both trees. Hazelnose reads like a completely different cat. God I hate when "rewrites" do this.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on May 2, 2021 17:31:17 GMT -5
Just blatant character biases.
Also, simple grammar mistakes like mixing up "your, you're, they're, their, there"
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Post by unfilteredangst on May 2, 2021 17:35:20 GMT -5
Just blatant character biases. Also, simple grammar mistakes like mixing up "your, you're, they're, their, there" jfc those simple grammer mistakes always manage to annoy the hell out of me for some reason.
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