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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Apr 16, 2021 7:03:09 GMT -5
Are there any former protagonists in Warriors that you've liked more, less, or haven't changed your opinion of them when it's not from their point of view?
An example would be that I liked Jayfeather more when it was from his POV. Now that he's no longer the protagonist, I don't like him quite as much (though I still do.) Another one would be I like Dovewing more when it isn't from her POV, to see her through the eyes of other cats. The last example would be Firestar; it doesn't matter if it's from his POV or not, my opinion on liking him hasn't changed.
Like: Like them more since it's not their POV Neutral: Opinion doesn't change, regardless of POV or non-POV Dislike: Like them less since it's not their POV
For me, it's: (not including cats from DOTC and I'm only going to list the main ones, not like Stormfur or Feathertail)
Firestar: Neutral
Brambleclaw: Neutral Leafpool: Neutral Squirrelflight: Neutral
Jayfeather: Dislike Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Neutral
Twigbranch: Like Alderheart: Like Violetshine: Like
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 16, 2021 7:07:34 GMT -5
Firestar: Like
Brambleclaw: Dislike Leafpool: Neutral Squirrelflight: Like
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Like Hollyleaf: Love
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Neutral
Alderheart: Like Twigbranch: Neutral Violetshine: Love
Gray Wing: Like Thunder: Neutral Skystar: Love
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BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ
Villain Enjoyer
Currently sick with the flu...
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 16, 2021 11:11:29 GMT -5
Firestar: Love
Brambleclaw: Love Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Love
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Love Hollyleaf: Love
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Like
Alderheart: Neutral Twigbranch: Like Violetshine: Love
(Gray Wing: Love Thunder: Like Clear Sky: Dislike)
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Post by Flanoir on Apr 16, 2021 11:28:35 GMT -5
I just like everyone, with those exceptions :
- Love Firestar
- Love all of the Three
- Neutral sometimes bordering on dislike for Dovewing and Ivypool. I like the characters per se but their point of view is annoying at times, mostly because of all the sister and Tigerheart drama.
- Neutral bordering on like for Alderheart and Twigbranch, on dislike for Violetshine. They were still interesting but I'm not really attached. We didn't really get to see them exist as characters once their POV ended.
- I'll sorta include him since we got to see him before he got a POV. Really dislike Shadowsight as a kit, but his POV as a teen is fine. So, neutral.
On a side note, I actually like Squirrelflight better beyond TNP, but I guess that has more to do with the character naturally maturing.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 16, 2021 11:41:53 GMT -5
Currently:
Firestar: Love Brambleclaw: Hate Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Love Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Neutral/Like Hollyleaf: Like Dovewing: Love Ivypool: Like Alderheart: Neutral Twigbranch: Dislike Violetshine: Love
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Post by crowspirit on Apr 16, 2021 12:39:06 GMT -5
Firestar: Neutral. Bramblestar: Dislike. Squirrelflight: Like. Leafpool: Neutral. Jayfeather: Like. Lionblaze: Neutral. Hollyleaf: Like. Ivypool: Like. Dovewing: Like. Alderheart: Like. Violetshine: Like. Twigbranch: Neutral.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Apr 16, 2021 16:23:12 GMT -5
Firestar: Love
Leafpool: Love
Squirrelflight: Like
Bramblestar: Dislike
Stormfur: Like
Feathertail: Neutral
Hollyleaf: Like
Jayfeather: Like
Lionblaze: Neutral
Dovewing: Hate
Ivypool: Like
Twigbranch: Love
Violetshine: Dislike
Alderheart: Like
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Gray Wing: Love
Thunder: Love
Clear Sky: Despise with all my being.
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Post by whiteflight on Apr 16, 2021 22:55:37 GMT -5
Firestar: Love
Brambleclaw: Like Leafpool: Love Squirrelflight: Neutral
Jayfeather: Like Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Love
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 16, 2021 23:57:52 GMT -5
Firestar: Like Brambleclaw: Like Leafpool: Neutral Squirrelflight: Hate Jayfeather: Like Lionblaze: Dislike Hollyleaf: Neutral Dovewing: Hate Ivypool: Love Gray Wing: Love Thunder: Neutral Clear Sky: Hate Twigbranch: Like Alderheart: Neutral Violetshine: Love
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Post by Emeraldripple on Apr 17, 2021 12:16:17 GMT -5
Firestar: I like him in the OS, he goes downhill after that
Brambleclaw: Neutral Leafpool: Love Squirrelflight: Like (although I heard her characterization kind of took a nosedive in the later books)
Jayfeather: Like Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: love of my life
Dovewing: Neutral Ivypool: Love
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Post by Firestorme on Apr 17, 2021 13:26:35 GMT -5
Firestar: LOVE
Brambleclaw: Like Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Love
Jayfeather: Neutral Lionblaze: Love Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Dislike Ivypool: Love
Twigbranch: Neutral Alderheart: Like Violetshine: Like
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Post by Mothdapple on Apr 17, 2021 13:58:47 GMT -5
Firestar: Like
Brambleclaw: Dislike Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Neutral
Jayfeather: Like Lionblaze: Like Hollyleaf: Love
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Like
Alderheart: Love Twigbranch: Like Violetshine: Love
Gray Wing: LOVE Thunder: Like Clear Sky: Hate
Shadowsight: Love Bristlefrost: Like Rootspring: Love
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Post by Card against Humanity on Apr 17, 2021 14:05:26 GMT -5
firestar: love in the first series, like in the others (some of his leadership decisions really annoyed me but he was a better leader than bramblestar for sure), so i'll say i liked him less
brambeclaw: this one's weird. i liked him in the first series and gradually disliked him more and more as the series continued. now i can't stand him. definitely liked him less leafpool: liked her before crowleaf happened, neutral on her now squirrelflight: i've always liked her
jayfeather: i liked him in po3/oots but i like him even more now (probably because his fangirl army died down) hollyleaf: liked in po3, loved her after she came back lionblaze: i want to say i dislike him but honestly there isn't much to dislike. hes so boring
dovewing: couldn't stand her in oots or avos, she's not too bad now though ivypool: i like her in general but her pov was kind of hit-or-miss so ig i'll say i like her more now
grey wing: lovelovelove thunder: his pov was boring but thunder himself was alright clear sky: love/hate
twigbranch: she's okay but her pov wasn't great alderheart: see thunder violetshine: i liked her a lot in avos but she's kind of faded into the background lately
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Apr 17, 2021 19:34:46 GMT -5
Firestar: I loved TPB and Firestar's POV in it. He was a great character who was made kinda boring when he was no longer the protagonist.
Brambleclaw: I loved him as an apprentice in TPB. I liked him for most of TNP, but as time went on he became less and less likeable. Squirrelflight: I love Squirrelflight. Leafpool: Her POV was boring sometimes, but I did like her. The whole Crowfeather thing was weird though ngl.
Jayfeather: I really liked his POV in PO3, but he started to irritate me a bit in OOTS. I like him better now that we don't have his POV anymore. Lionblaze: Yeah, his POV was pretty boring, but I still really like him. He's a good guy. Hollyleaf: She annoyed me in PO3, but I really enjoyed watching her spiraling more and more out of control. I loved her when she came back and she deserved so much better.
Dovewing: Kinda irritated me, ngl. I suppose she's okay, but the Tigerheart thing ruined it - I hated how when all this stuff was going on that continued to be one of her main concerns, and it was dragged out way, way, way too long. Ivypool: She was a major brat at the beginning, but I love her, and I can definitely understand why she was jealous of her sister.
Alderheart: Alderheart is such a sweetie, but his POV gets a bit dull sometimes. Twigbranch: I like her, but she does get a bit annoying sometimes. Her POV was very hit or miss in my opinion. Violetshine: I loved her POV, I hate how she became a typical background queen afterwards though.
Gray Wing: My all time favorite protagonist. I love him, he deserved better, but I have to admit his death was an amazing ending to the arc and I cry like a baby every time I read it. Thunder: I love him so much. Clear Sky: I recognize that he's a jerk, but I love him, I love his redemption. The only thing I don't particularly love about him is his thing with Star Flower.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Apr 17, 2021 19:53:31 GMT -5
Firestar: Like
Brambleclaw: Neutral Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Like
Jayfeather: Dislike Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Neutral
Twigbranch: Dislike Alderheart: Dislike Violetshine: Dislike
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Post by Hollyfall on Apr 17, 2021 19:59:16 GMT -5
Firestar: Love
Brambleclaw: Like Squirrelflight: Like (Admittedly I hated her in TNP, but she's much better in TBC) Leafpool: Dislike
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Love Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Dislike Ivypool: Love
Gray Wing: Love Thunder: Neutral Clear Sky: Neutral
Alderheart: Like Twigbranch: Neutral Violetshine: Dislike
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ravenmoon
"I'm smarter than you!" - Gary Smith
Pronouns: Any pronouns fine
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Post by ravenmoon on Apr 18, 2021 1:28:00 GMT -5
Firestar: Neutral
Brambleclaw: Hate Leafpool: Neutral/Like Squirrelflight: Like
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: dislike Hollyleaf: HATE
Dovewing: Dislike Ivypool: LOVE
Alderheart: Dislike Twigbranch: Like Violetshine: Neutral/Like
Shadowsight: Dislike Bristlefrost: Hate Rootspring: Dislike
Grey Wing: Love Clear Sky: Dislike Thunder: Don't rlly remember much abt him to form a solid opinion lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 13:13:40 GMT -5
Firestar: Love
Brambleclaw: Neutral Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Love Feathertail: Like Stormfur: Dislike
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Dislike Hollyleaf: Neutral
Dovewing: Dislike Ivypool: Love
Gray Wing: Like Thunder: Neutral/Like Clear Sky: Neutral/Like
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Post by αɳσɱαʅყ on Apr 19, 2021 6:45:06 GMT -5
Firestar: Like. He was a good pov protag, and how he's written as a non-pov leader reflects on his wisdom and maturation since then. A very stable, kind leader figure, I miss him.
Brambleclaw: Neutral Squirrelflight: Neutral/dislike-- she is more fun as a POV character. Leafpool: Like
Jay/Lion: Neutral/dislike, I enjoyed their POVs more Holly: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Neutral
Gray Wing: Neutral Clear Sky: Like, he just gets better with age lol Thunder: Neutral-- honestly I found his POV annoying when I first read DOTC, but probably nowadays I'd be neutral.
Alderheart: Dislike. I loved his POV. Now as a non-POV he's kinda just... there? Twigbranch: Neutral. Violetshine: Dislike, for same reason as Alderheart.
Shadowsight: Neutral Bristlefrost: Like Rootspring: Dislike. Enjoy POV more.
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Post by Jumpwhisker on Apr 19, 2021 15:41:32 GMT -5
Gonna withhold judgment on the DotC characters since I haven't read those books properly yet, but overall, I'd say I still like most of the characters, even when it's no longer their POV.
Firestar: Neutral
Brambleclaw: Dislike Squirrelflight: Like Leafpool: Neutral
Jayfeather: Neutral Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Like
Alderheart: Neutral Twigbranch: Neutral Violetshine: Neutral
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Post by Seven on Apr 20, 2021 21:34:07 GMT -5
Firestar: love
Bramblestar: neutral Squirrelflight: neutral/like Leafpool: neutral Feathertail: like Stormfur: neutral
Jayfeather: love Hollyleaf: love Lionblaze: love
Dovewing: like Ivypool: neutral
Alderheart: neutral Twigbranch: neutral Violetshine: like
Bristlefrost: love Shadowsight: like Rootspring: love
Gray wing: love Clear sky: like Thunder: like
Bluestar: love Leafstar: like Crookedstar: love Tallstar: love Yellowfang: love Moth flight: love Hawkwing: neutral Tigerheart: neutral Crowfeather: love Graystripe: like
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Post by Skypaw13 on Apr 21, 2021 1:36:41 GMT -5
Opinions after they no longer have a POV:
Firestar: significantly improved
Brambleclaw: got significantly worse Leafpool: got worse Squirrelflight: got worse
Jayfeather: got significantly worse Lionblaze: got worse Hollyleaf: improved
Dovewing: improved Ivypool: got worse
Alderheart: no change Twigbranch: no change Violetshine: no change.
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Post by Batchaser on Apr 22, 2021 11:45:41 GMT -5
Firestar : Love
Bramblestar : Neutral Squirrelflight : Like Leafpool : Neutral Feathertail : Neutral
Lionblaze : Neutral Hollyleaf : Love Jayfeather : Dislike
Dovewing : Love Ivypool : Dislike
Alderheart : Like Twigbranch : Neutral Violetshine : Like
Bristlefrost : Love Rootspring : Love Shadowsight : Like
Gray Wing : Love Thunder : Neutral Clear Sky : Dislike
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Post by Snowfire on Apr 22, 2021 12:01:37 GMT -5
Firestar: Like
Brambleclaw: Neutral Leafpool: Like Squirrelflight: Like Feathertail: Like Stormfur: Neutral
Jayfeather: Love Lionblaze: Neutral Hollyleaf: Like
Dovewing: Like Ivypool: Like Flametail: Neutral
Twigbranch: Like Alderheart: Neutral Violetshine: Love
Gray Wing: Love Clear Sky: Like Thunder: Neutral
Rootspring: Love Shadowsight: Love Bristlefrost:Like
Moth Flight: Neutral Tallstar: Like (Pre-StarClan) Yellowfang: Like Crookedstar: Love Bluestar: Neutral Leafstar: Like Stick: Hate Crowfeather: Love Hawkwing: Love Tigerheartstar: Like Graystripe: Like Mistystar: Neutral Cloudstar: Neutral Tigerstar: Neutral Mapleshade: Neutral Goosefeather: Love Ravenpaw: Love Spottedleaf: Dislike Pinestar: Like Redtail: Neutral Tawnypelt: Neutral Shadowstar: Neutral Pebbleshine: Neutral Tree: Like Mothwing: Love Daisy: Love Blackstar: Love Spotfur: Like
Sasha: Like Scourge: Like
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on May 6, 2021 14:14:46 GMT -5
The Prophecies Begin Firestar - Neutral
The New Prophecy Brambleclaw - Dislike Leafpool - Neutral Squirrelflight - Love
Power of Three Jayfeather - Love Hollyleaf - Dislike Lionblaze - Dislike
Omen of the Stars Ivypool - Dislike Dovewing - Love
Dawn of the Clans Gray Wing - Love Thunder - Dislike Clear Sky - Love
A Vision of Shadows Alderheart - Like Twigbranch - Love Violetshine - Like
The Broken Code Bristlefrost - Neutral Shadowsight - Like Rootspring - Love
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