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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 14:25:16 GMT -5
So, because these are short, this'll just summarize the basics. DK: Smoky Daisy Mousewhisker Sorrelstripe and Alderheart try to find a way to keep Coriander’s kits alive even with their mother dead, but Smoky refuses to give them up to the Clans or a Twoleg. SkyClan has a nursing queen so they decide to go there but on the way, a hawk attacks them and the Sisters save them and they have a nursing queen so they stay with them. They return to the barn when they're old enough to survive without milk and Daisy stays with Smoky at the barn as the kits don’t want her to go. After plenty of inner conflict and with the news that Spotfur kitted, she decides to return to TC but promises to visit the kits (Little Daisy and Coriander). Mousewhisker bonds with his father a bit and acknowledges the kits as his kin, wanting to visit them. SR: Spotfur and Stemleaf have been close since they were apprentices together, with the former being the more troublesome of the two. For example, on her second day as an apprentice, she tries to attack Bumblestripe while he's teaching Shellpaw (who she doesn't seem to get along with) more or less as a prank. Moons later, she ends up saving Flipkit after he gets stuck in mud during a storm (same one from TRS) after accidentally being left behind. She also thinks highly of Bramblestar.
During leaf-bare, Dewnose sends Thriftpaw out on her own as punishment after she tries to gives Baykit herbs without permission. Apparently he was trying to copy Whitewing: "When I was a 'paw, Whitewing always gave me punishments to fix whatever I'd done wrong." Bramblestar also gets weaker while on patrol, and you can guess what happens afterwards.
Later, Stemleaf decides to attack the impostor while Spotfur gets the idea to recruit cats. When the attack does happen though, there wasn't any sort of plan since "Bramblestar" ran into them and they attacked then and there. The novella also confirms that he killed Stemleaf and Dappletuft.
Later, Squirrelflight comforts Spotfur over Stenleaf's death and Spotfur has faith that they'll take back their Clan. BR: It starts right after the battle with BloodClan and the rest of the novella covers his nine lives ceremony while we get to see memories of his life. StarClan is angry with him, Stonefur refuses to forgive him, and Blackstar regrets all that he had done. We also get confirmation that Blizzardwing is his father, but he didn't know until he was an apprentice because Hollyflower wanted nothing to do with him. The book ends with StarClan chanting his new leader name.
His nine lives: 1) Blizzardwing for Acceptance 2) Raggedstar for Trust 3) Badgerfang for Perspective 4) Gray Wing for Unity 5) Rosetail for Compassion 6) Bluestar for Judgement 7) Stonefur for Integrity 8) Nightstar for Loyalty 9) Shadowstar for Leadership
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 30, 2021 14:42:38 GMT -5
Oh, yay! Thanks! DK: I'm assuming that nursing queen in the Sisters is Sunshine. It's nice to see that Mousewhisker has bonded with his father. Knowing that Spotfur has kitted makes me wonder when the book ends. I don't think her kits were born yet as of TPONS. So maybe Daisy returned to the Clans in ALITM. SR: I honestly thought that this novella would just be a retelling of books 2 and 3 through Spotfur's POV. But it's nice to see some of her apprenticeship. And knowing that Spotfur and Stemleaf were close even as apprentices is great. Spotfur not being close with Shellfur is interesting. Also, I assume you mean Dewnose. BR: I'm not that surprised that Stonefur is angry with Blackstar. Mistystar has never forgiven him either. I wonder why Hollyflower wanted nothing to do with Blizzardwing. That's interesting. I'm just happy to see Badgerfang. Gray Wing was also a really unexpected choice, but quite welcomed.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 30, 2021 15:04:31 GMT -5
It's not on the wiki, but didn't Kate once say that she thinks Nightstar and Raggedstar gave Blackstar a life? Because this ended up being true. Also, she said that she was unsure if Stonefur gave him a life and said that if he did it would either be for forgiveness or hate. While he gave Blackstar integrity instead, pretty sure he would've given Blackstar hate if he could've.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Mar 30, 2021 15:07:47 GMT -5
can you give us the alligences?
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Mar 30, 2021 15:08:58 GMT -5
Kind of cool that we got a book completely based on a nine lives ceremony. I kind of wished it got through a bit more of Blackstar’s changing into the character he is the present day, or perhaps he never truly changed. I still feel like there’s a large gap in his story because of that, but at least there is a bit more about the past. I feel like Blackstar would’ve made more sense as a Super Edition instead of Yellowfang, but at least we got something here. I don’t really care too much for Spotfur’s Rebellion, but I’m glad we got to see the conclusion of Daisy’s journey. It looks like she might return in a light in the mist, and I’m hoping she’s just able to retire and live peacefully soon. She deserves that after all she’s been through, and hopefully she isn’t killed in battle...[\spoiler]
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 15:14:31 GMT -5
Oh, yay! Thanks! DK: I'm assuming that nursing queen in the Sisters is Sunshine. It's nice to see that Mousewhisker has bonded with his father. Knowing that Spotfur has kitted makes me wonder when the book ends. I don't think her kits were born yet as of TPONS. So maybe Daisy returned to the Clans in ALITM. SR: I honestly thought that this novella would just be a retelling of books 2 and 3 through Spotfur's POV. But it's nice to see some of her apprenticeship. And knowing that Spotfur and Stemleaf were close even as apprentices is great. Spotfur not being close with Shellfur is interesting. Also, I assume you mean Dewnose. BR: I'm not that surprised that Stonefur is angry with Blackstar. Mistystar has never forgiven him either. I wonder why Hollyflower wanted nothing to do with Blizzardwing. That's interesting. I'm just happy to see Badgerfang. Gray Wing was also a really unexpected choice, but quite welcomed. Yes, I meant Dewnose. Thanks for pointing out the typo! And according to the scene, it seems like the reason Hollyflower and Blizzardwing didn't work out is because he cheated on Featherstorm with her and then left Hollyflower to raise the kits alone. Blackstar's parents didn't know he knew until he was already getting his nine lives. It's also stated that Blizzardwing genuinely loved his kits, but Hollyflower refused to let him come near them.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 30, 2021 15:18:35 GMT -5
Oh, yay! Thanks! DK: I'm assuming that nursing queen in the Sisters is Sunshine. It's nice to see that Mousewhisker has bonded with his father. Knowing that Spotfur has kitted makes me wonder when the book ends. I don't think her kits were born yet as of TPONS. So maybe Daisy returned to the Clans in ALITM. SR: I honestly thought that this novella would just be a retelling of books 2 and 3 through Spotfur's POV. But it's nice to see some of her apprenticeship. And knowing that Spotfur and Stemleaf were close even as apprentices is great. Spotfur not being close with Shellfur is interesting. Also, I assume you mean Dewnose. BR: I'm not that surprised that Stonefur is angry with Blackstar. Mistystar has never forgiven him either. I wonder why Hollyflower wanted nothing to do with Blizzardwing. That's interesting. I'm just happy to see Badgerfang. Gray Wing was also a really unexpected choice, but quite welcomed. Yes, I meant Dewnose. Thanks for pointing out the typo! And according to the scene, it seems like the reason Hollyflower and Blizzardwing didn't work out is because he cheated on Featherstorm with her (or at least that's the implication I'm getting here since Holly says he didn't want to tell Featherstorm the truth) and then left Hollyflower to raise the kits alone. Lackstar's parents didn't know he knew until he was already getting his nine lives. It's also stated that Blizzardwing genuinely loved his kits, but Hollyflower refused to let him come near them. Oh, hm. It sounded like Toadskip was a cheater, but I never expected Blizzardwing to be one as well. I wonder how Blackstar found out. I'm assuming Hollyflower was at the ceremony as well.
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Post by icefurs on Mar 30, 2021 15:19:41 GMT -5
Thank you so much for these! Is there any way that you could show Stonefur giving Blackstar his 7th life? (No worries if not)
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 15:21:22 GMT -5
Yes, I meant Dewnose. Thanks for pointing out the typo! And according to the scene, it seems like the reason Hollyflower and Blizzardwing didn't work out is because he cheated on Featherstorm with her (or at least that's the implication I'm getting here since Holly says he didn't want to tell Featherstorm the truth) and then left Hollyflower to raise the kits alone. Lackstar's parents didn't know he knew until he was already getting his nine lives. It's also stated that Blizzardwing genuinely loved his kits, but Hollyflower refused to let him come near them. Oh, hm. It sounded like Toadskip was a cheater, but I never expected Blizzardwing to be one as well. I wonder how Blackstar found out. I'm assuming Hollyflower was at the ceremony as well. She was. Sagewhisker too. Basically Blackpaw overheard them arguing and that's how he knew. Also, Toadskip seems to be more like he was in an actual polyamorous relationship whereas Blizzardwing blatantly cheated. This also makes him the second cat in the series to do so after Appledusk.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 30, 2021 15:22:37 GMT -5
Oh, yay! Thanks! DK: I'm assuming that nursing queen in the Sisters is Sunshine. It's nice to see that Mousewhisker has bonded with his father. Knowing that Spotfur has kitted makes me wonder when the book ends. I don't think her kits were born yet as of TPONS. So maybe Daisy returned to the Clans in ALITM. SR: I honestly thought that this novella would just be a retelling of books 2 and 3 through Spotfur's POV. But it's nice to see some of her apprenticeship. And knowing that Spotfur and Stemleaf were close even as apprentices is great. Spotfur not being close with Shellfur is interesting. Also, I assume you mean Dewnose. BR: I'm not that surprised that Stonefur is angry with Blackstar. Mistystar has never forgiven him either. I wonder why Hollyflower wanted nothing to do with Blizzardwing. That's interesting. I'm just happy to see Badgerfang. Gray Wing was also a really unexpected choice, but quite welcomed. Yes, I meant Dewnose. Thanks for pointing out the typo! And according to the scene, it seems like the reason Hollyflower and Blizzardwing didn't work out is because he cheated on Featherstorm with her (or at least that's the implication I'm getting here since Holly says he didn't want to tell Featherstorm the truth) and then left Hollyflower to raise the kits alone. Lackstar's parents didn't know he knew until he was already getting his nine lives. It's also stated that Blizzardwing genuinely loved his kits, but Hollyflower refused to let him come near them. Wow. I certainly didin't expect that, of all things. He always seemed like a nice guy in the background. Well, atleast he has more character to him now. You know, that could explain why we never saw him in Yellowfang's Secret being a father to his kits with Hollyflower or anything.
If that's the case, i'm genuely interested because we haven't heard of cheating since Appledusk. Well, here comes another widely hated character, lol. He's not going to be as hated as Appledusk, but i can see people being rightfully angry at him.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 30, 2021 15:29:09 GMT -5
Oh, hm. It sounded like Toadskip was a cheater, but I never expected Blizzardwing to be one as well. I wonder how Blackstar found out. I'm assuming Hollyflower was at the ceremony as well. She was. Sagewhisker too. Basically Blackpaw overheard them arguing and that's how he knew. Also, Toadskip seems to be more like he was in an actual polyamorous relationship whereas Blizzardwing blatantly cheated. This also makes him the second cat in the series to do so after Appledusk. So we officially have our second cheater. This actually does explain why we never got a father for Blackstar and his littermates in YS. In the case of Toadskip though, I'm still wondering who the mother of Nightstar and Clawface are now that we know he's their father. Apparently they were apprentices at the same time as Cloudpelt according to the wiki. Toadskip was Cloudpelt's father. So I don't think Nettlespot is the mother. Maybe Poolcloud? Or a random third she-cat? He fathered all three of his litters one right after the other it seems.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 15:34:43 GMT -5
can you give us the alligences? The allegiances are essentially the same as in previous books: TDH for BR, TRS for SR, and the allegiances for DK are on the wiki.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 15:42:23 GMT -5
Thank you so much for these! Is there any way that you could show Stonefur giving Blackstar his 7th life? (No worries if not)
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 30, 2021 15:49:21 GMT -5
I like the realistic portrayal that some StarClan cats can still hold grudges against the living and just because you become a wise cat in StarClan dosen't mean you need to be extremely forgiving. Stonefur is all within his rights to feel this way, and in no way he's obligated to feel sympathy.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Mar 30, 2021 15:57:08 GMT -5
can you give us the alligences? The allegiances are essentially the same as in previous books: TDH for BR, TRS for SR, and the allegiances for DK are on the wiki. is that then where the books take place?
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Post by Mau Furlong on Mar 30, 2021 15:58:38 GMT -5
The allegiances are essentially the same as in previous books: TDH for BR, TRS for SR, and the allegiances for DK are on the wiki. is that then where the books take place? wait! what is TDH and TRS? The Rising Storm?
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 16:00:02 GMT -5
is that then where the books take place? wait! what is TDH and TRS? The Rising Storm? If they're using the same allegiances as previous books, then obviously yes, although Spotfur's has some time skips and Blackstar's has flashbacks. The Darkest Hour and The Raging Storm.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Mar 30, 2021 16:02:03 GMT -5
oh ok
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Post by Mistybreeze on Mar 30, 2021 16:50:20 GMT -5
Has Sunshine kitted? If so, do we have names for them?
And do we learn the names of Spotfur's kits?
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 17:05:05 GMT -5
Has Sunshine kitted? If so, do we have names for them?
And do we learn the names of Spotfur's kits? She has! No names, though, but we know she has two. And we don't.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 30, 2021 17:09:42 GMT -5
Thank you for these, Cinder! I hope Mousewhisker gets more screen time, or at least Smoky, and the kits are brought up occasionally. It'd be a shame if Mousewhisker seemingly forgets about them. I wish we saw more of Blackstar's character development but the scenes with Stonefur made up for it.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 30, 2021 17:26:29 GMT -5
Thank you for these, Cinder! No problem!
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Mar 31, 2021 8:58:26 GMT -5
Do we have names for Spotfur's kits?
Do we even know how many kits she had?
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Mar 31, 2021 9:15:08 GMT -5
Do we have names for Spotfur's kits? Do we even know how many kits she had? Also, this is a little unrelated, but can we see a photo of the tattle Blurb of The Place Of No Stars.You know, the left flap that says "Keep Watch For" and shows the cover of the next book?
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 31, 2021 9:32:17 GMT -5
Do we have names for Spotfur's kits? Do we even know how many kits she had? Also, this is a little unrelated, but can we see a photo of the tattle Blurb of The Place Of No Stars.You know, the left flap that says "Keep Watch For" and shows the cover of the next book? Like I said in an earlier post, we don't. We'll likely find it in the next book. And speaking of the last book, we've actually known what the cover would look like for awhile now, but here you go:
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#04F9B3
StarClan leader
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Featherstar
She could now see that destiny alone could not save RiverClan. - Frostpaw, Wind
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Post by Featherstar on Mar 31, 2021 9:41:55 GMT -5
Also, this is a little unrelated, but can we see a photo of the tattle Blurb of The Place Of No Stars.You know, the left flap that says "Keep Watch For" and shows the cover of the next book? Like I said in an earlier post, we don't. We'll likely find it in the next book. And speaking of the last book, we've actually known what the cover would look like for awhile now, but here you go: This is what I wanted. Yes! Thank you so much!
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Post by Darkshine Laufeyson-Barnes on Mar 31, 2021 10:35:09 GMT -5
When approximately does Daisy's Kin take place? I'm rereading the books in chronological order so I thought I might as well include these stories because I have the book now.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 31, 2021 10:44:04 GMT -5
When approximately does Daisy's Kin take place? I'm rereading the books in chronological order so I thought I might as well include these stories because I have the book now. Hm... I believe it takes place during DW and TPoNS, maybe ALitM since I don't think there's been any mention of Spotfur having her kits yet as far as TPoNS is concerned.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 31, 2021 13:13:09 GMT -5
I really don't wanna spoil myself but I'm curious about something How much from 1 to 10 would you rate each novella? Like I said before, I'm getting my information from a completely different source, so I won't know until I read them for myself. But they all seem fairly enjoyable to me.
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Post by Moonblazer on Mar 31, 2021 14:52:35 GMT -5
I read them all! They were pretty good! I have the book and Place of No Stars as well
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