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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 29, 2021 10:48:29 GMT -5
Someone got the book early, here are the cats that give Blackstar his lives: 1) Blizzardwing for Acceptance 2) Raggedstar for Trust 3) Badgerfang for Perspective 4) Gray Wing for Unity 5) Rosetail for Compassion 6) Bluestar for Judgement 7) Stonefur for Integrity 8) Nightstar for Loyalty 9) Shadowstar for Leadership
Stonefur was most reluctant about it. We also know who his dad is: Blizzardwing
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Mar 29, 2021 10:51:25 GMT -5
How are yall getting the books early!? My bookstore NEVER gets anything early!
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Post by Moonblazer on Mar 29, 2021 11:14:13 GMT -5
Yessssss if this is true then the two cats I wanted to give him lives gave him lives.
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Post by foxstride on Mar 29, 2021 11:34:24 GMT -5
Thoughts just based on the spoilers above: Why are only five of these cats from ShadowClan? Three of the cats died as a consequence of his actions - Stonefur and Rosetail directly, Badgerfang indirectly though I can look past that more since Badgerfang is his nephew (Fernshade's kit). It doesn't make much sense when Tigerclaw's leadership ceremony involved more ShadowClan cats who he never met and yet Blackstar, who is a ShadowClan cat through and through, has two Clan cats he never interacted with, one Ancient who has seemingly nothing to do with him, and one Clan cat he persecuted and killed. I'm glad Stonefur was reluctant but him giving a life for integrity doesn't seem on point at all considering how he was killed.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 29, 2021 11:36:59 GMT -5
Well, it seems Blizzardwing had two mates and two litters, since he was also Featherstorm's mate and the father of Volepaw, Mosspaw and Dawncloud.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Mar 29, 2021 11:46:33 GMT -5
Thoughts just based on the spoilers above: Why are only five of these cats from ShadowClan? Three of the cats died as a consequence of his actions - Stonefur and Rosetail directly, Badgerfang indirectly though I can look past that more since Badgerfang is his nephew (Fernshade's kit). It doesn't make much sense when Tigerclaw's leadership ceremony involved more ShadowClan cats who he never met and yet Blackstar, who is a ShadowClan cat through and through, has two Clan cats he never interacted with, one Ancient who has seemingly nothing to do with him, and one Clan cat he persecuted and killed. I'm glad Stonefur was reluctant but him giving a life for integrity doesn't seem on point at all considering how he was killed. I thought it made a lot of sense because a lot of those characters were affected negatively by his life before that, so of course they would go to give lives to hope that he would live his life positively. Shadowstar probably just wants to see her Clan return to normal and he can’t receive lives from other predecessors because they’re in the dark forest. As for Stonefur and integrity, it’s mentioned during Tigerstar I’s ceremony that if a cat is lacking certain traits, the Starclan spirits may give them those traits in hopes that they will have and use them during leadership. So that would make sense considering Blackstar had problems with integrity, whether it was just from following the orders of treacherous leaders or something he had from the beginning.
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Post by Brindlefern on Mar 29, 2021 11:57:35 GMT -5
STONEFUR GAVE HIM A LIFE FRICK YES
THAT IS ALL I WANTED OUT OF THAT BIT
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Post by foxstride on Mar 29, 2021 12:17:05 GMT -5
Thoughts just based on the spoilers above: Why are only five of these cats from ShadowClan? Three of the cats died as a consequence of his actions - Stonefur and Rosetail directly, Badgerfang indirectly though I can look past that more since Badgerfang is his nephew (Fernshade's kit). It doesn't make much sense when Tigerclaw's leadership ceremony involved more ShadowClan cats who he never met and yet Blackstar, who is a ShadowClan cat through and through, has two Clan cats he never interacted with, one Ancient who has seemingly nothing to do with him, and one Clan cat he persecuted and killed. I'm glad Stonefur was reluctant but him giving a life for integrity doesn't seem on point at all considering how he was killed. Spoiler I thought it made a lot of sense because a lot of those characters were affected negatively by his life before that, so of course they would go to give lives to hope that he would live his life positively. Shadowstar probably just wants to see her Clan return to normal and he can’t receive lives from other predecessors because they’re in the dark forest. As for Stonefur and integrity, it’s mentioned during Tigerstar I’s ceremony that if a cat is lacking certain traits, the Starclan spirits may give them those traits in hopes that they will have and use them during leadership. So that would make sense considering Blackstar had problems with integrity, whether it was just from following the orders of treacherous leaders or something he had from the beginning. Definitely good points there! I just... don't agree with how the Erins gave Tigerclaw all these ShadowClan figures yet Blackfoot gets half of them despite most of his character revolving around his pride for his Clan, of not regretting his actions, and never atoning for any of his 'sins' at all from what we've seen. If not for Tigerclaw's Fury and how we see Blackstar in the rest of the books, I'd definitely agree with your points! Based on all the lives given... Blackstar doesn't trust the other Clans, pretty much ever, he's very against unity until he's forced into it, he has very limited compassion, integrity is debatable. I think he's a good leader who is absolutely loyal to his Clan, but there were better options available in my opinion. For instance, Hollyflower could have been there to give him the life for Unity or Understanding, or Flintfang could have given him a life for Forgiveness etc.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 29, 2021 14:21:36 GMT -5
Stonefur giving him a life is awkward lol.
But anyway, I'm glad we have a confirmation on Blackstar's parents now. Blizzardwing x Hollyflower is now canon, which means they were a thing before Blizzardwing got with Featherstorm since Blackstar apprenticed his younger half-sister, Dawncloud.
The downside? This means the closest living kin Blackstar has now...is Tigertwo...
Since Tigertwo's father is Rowanclaw, and his father was Scorchwind, and his parents were Feather and Blizzard...
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Post by Moonblazer on Mar 29, 2021 14:29:47 GMT -5
Le gasp, Black and Rowan are kin, that’s cool!
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Aroace
Bananasauce
Onestar's name is what I would rate him as leader
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Post by Bananasauce on Mar 29, 2021 14:36:39 GMT -5
Stonefur giving him a life is awkward lol. But anyway, I'm glad we have a confirmation on Blackstar's parents now. Blizzardwing x Hollyflower is now canon, which means they were a thing before Blizzardwing got with Featherstorm since Blackstar apprenticed his younger half-sister, Dawncloud. The downside? This means the closest living kin Blackstar has now...is Tigertwo... Since Tigertwo's father is Rowanclaw, and his father was Scorchwind, and his parents were Feather and Blizzard... Well actually Scorchwind's parents were Hal and Featherstorm so
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 29, 2021 14:42:22 GMT -5
Stonefur giving him a life is awkward lol. But anyway, I'm glad we have a confirmation on Blackstar's parents now. Blizzardwing x Hollyflower is now canon, which means they were a thing before Blizzardwing got with Featherstorm since Blackstar apprenticed his younger half-sister, Dawncloud. The downside? This means the closest living kin Blackstar has now...is Tigertwo... Since Tigertwo's father is Rowanclaw, and his father was Scorchwind, and his parents were Feather and Blizzard... Well actually Scorchwind's parents were Hal and Featherstorm so Oh yeah that's true, so there only connection would be through Featherstorm, which isn't exactly kin. So that means Blackstar doesn't have any living kin at all?? Since Dawncloud kits are deceased.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Mar 29, 2021 14:49:02 GMT -5
Oh damn, 6 of the 9 cats here are actually in my unfinished Blackstar fic! Now that we know who gave him his lives in canon, I'm not sure if I'll finish it. For anyone who's interested, here's who I had for his lives: 1) Raggedstar - Foresight
2) Yellowfang - Sacrifice
3) Nightstar - Endurance
4) Flintfang - Kinship
5) Badgerfang - Joy
6) Rosetail - Dignity
7) Stonefur - Courage (specifically the courage to disobey when you know obeying would be wrong; Stonefur did this with Leopardstar, but Blackfoot didn't with Tigerstar)
8) Shadowstar - Judgement
9) Hollyflower - Mercy
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Aroace
Bananasauce
Onestar's name is what I would rate him as leader
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Post by Bananasauce on Mar 29, 2021 14:49:43 GMT -5
Well actually Scorchwind's parents were Hal and Featherstorm so Oh yeah that's true, so there only connection would be through Featherstorm, which isn't exactly kin. So that means Blackstar doesn't have any living kin at all?? Since Dawncloud kits are deceased. I don't think so at least if Su Susann stuff is excluded If included then Sleekwhisker is his great-granddaughter (and also half-grandniece since Dawncloud is now Blackstar's half-sister) and we can assume she's still alive
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 29, 2021 14:51:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah that's true, so there only connection would be through Featherstorm, which isn't exactly kin. So that means Blackstar doesn't have any living kin at all?? Since Dawncloud kits are deceased. I don't think so at least if Su Susann stuff is excluded If included then Sleekwhisker is his great-granddaughter (and also half-grandniece since Dawncloud is now Blackstar's half-sister) and we can assume she's still alive Yikes. I would have taken Tigertwo over her any day....
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 29, 2021 15:08:37 GMT -5
So that means it'll look something like this: You'll have to open it in a new tab to see closer. And the only person not on the chart is Russetfur, who is Hal's daughter with an unknown mother.
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#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 29, 2021 17:12:26 GMT -5
STONEFUR GAVE BLACKSTAR A LIFE. MY LIFE IS COMPLETE NOW AND I CAN DIE HAPPY. And a new canon family? SWEET.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 29, 2021 17:14:22 GMT -5
Oh, yay! I was hoping Badgerfang would give his uncle a life. And we now know who Blackstar's father is, meaning Blizzardwing had two mates. No Hollyflower, though. The other ShC cats are Nightstar, Raggedstar and Shadowstar. All three leaders. I wasn't expecting Bluestar of all cats. Seeing Gray Wing and Rosetail make me immensely happy. And then we also have Stonefur, not really wanting to give him one.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 29, 2021 17:18:09 GMT -5
Oh! *Faith*, this'll probably make you happy as well since I know how much you love family trees. We also have a confirmed father for Nightstar and Clawface: Toadskip . No mother though, at least as far as I'm aware.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 29, 2021 17:39:38 GMT -5
Toadskip?? Did he have a third litter with either Poolcloud or Nettlespot, or did he take a third mate? Now i'm curious.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 29, 2021 17:47:41 GMT -5
Oh! *Faith* , this'll probably make you happy as well since I know how much you love family trees. We also have a confirmed father for Nightstar and Clawface: Toadskip . No mother though, at least as far as I'm aware. Toadskip?! Huh. The mother is either Poolcloud, Nettlespot or a third cat. Then again, Smoky had three mates as well.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 29, 2021 17:50:40 GMT -5
I don't suppose we have a pelt colour for Deerfoot and Wolfstep, do we?
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 29, 2021 17:51:36 GMT -5
I don't suppose we have a pelt colour for Deerfoot and Wolfstep, do we? I don't think so.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 29, 2021 17:53:55 GMT -5
I don't suppose we have a pelt colour for Deerfoot and Wolfstep, do we? I don't think so. Oh, well. At this point, I wonder if we'll ever get a pelt colour for those two. Though I suppose they might appear in a graphic novel one day. Apparently ShC is getting one.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Mar 29, 2021 17:56:18 GMT -5
Now this really helps with my ShadowClan family trees. Although i already picked Archeye to be the father Hollyflower's kits, rip. I'm going to redo the family tree soon.
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Post by danilynnea on Mar 29, 2021 18:03:17 GMT -5
Hi I just joined today although I've been watching these forums for years now. Has there been any confirmation on Blackstar's kits?
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 29, 2021 18:04:11 GMT -5
Hi I just joined today although I've been watching these forums for years now. Has there been any confirmation on Blackstar's kits? Welcome. And he doesn't have any.
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