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Post by Turin not Torino on Apr 20, 2021 6:32:25 GMT -5
If you go to Germany, you can get all the German books you want
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 20, 2021 14:48:11 GMT -5
If you go to Germany, you can get all the German books you want This is the best argument I've heard.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 20, 2021 20:50:12 GMT -5
I just have to talk to an advisor about what other classes I can take, but it looks like I'm going to Germany should there be no hitches. //knock on wood//
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 22, 2021 1:10:47 GMT -5
I'm gonna try reading a book today. XD A German Warrior book, specifically.
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Post by Turin not Torino on Apr 22, 2021 7:51:11 GMT -5
Which one?
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 23, 2021 2:06:59 GMT -5
The Sun Trail!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 24, 2021 1:47:25 GMT -5
So, if I am going to Germany in Spring, and if all goes well it looks like I am, my goal is thus:
Get at least the basis down. Ya know ... A1 level stuff.
This means understanding it, which means someone (cough// me) needs to get off my but and write down some verbs and their forms, because I'm tired of only remembering how to say eating, reading, and going.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 29, 2021 1:09:11 GMT -5
Well, I got all my Duolingo nodes to level one. ^^"
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 30, 2021 21:25:04 GMT -5
What is grammar? Why is grammar? How is grammar?
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Post by Turin not Torino on May 1, 2021 13:07:58 GMT -5
I would like to lodge a complaint about the German language books - so I was on German ebay last night, and came across a Warriors bonus book that I didn't know about, and since I am already compiling another book shipment at my German address right now, I figured one more book wouldn't hurt. I thought there were 2 of them for sale. Now I come home and look at it again, and they are DIFFERENT books, and I am mad because that's another $25 I didn't want to spend, and WHY DOES GERMANY HAVE TO MAKE ALL THEIR WARRIOR BONUS STUFF LOOK THE SAMESo I ask of you, German sensei, what is the difference in these 2 books besides the title? The introduction page also looks the same to me aside from different fonts:
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 1, 2021 22:51:16 GMT -5
The first is "My Clan Family Book" and the second is "My Clan Dangerous Book."
The introduction is different too. I cannot read the first picture completely, but my impression is the first is for family trees and the like. The second I have no idea. A bit ways down the introduction it says something about creating something together with your friends. But yeah, the intros are different and so are the books. But ouch. Bad cover design choice.
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Post by Turin not Torino on May 2, 2021 0:10:24 GMT -5
ebay translated with google translate says the 2nd book is "clan companion book". I won't know if there are other differences until I get them, or even what they are in general, but you know me, if it's Warriors, I'll collect it.
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Aroace
#90ec86
Name Colour
Pineclaw
Pronouns: He/Him or They/Them
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Post by Pineclaw on May 2, 2021 3:30:31 GMT -5
Torino is right, the second one means something like "clan companion book." "Clangefährten" = "clanmates". "Gefährte" (comrade, companion or, depending on the context, mate.) has nothing to do with "Gefahr" or "gefährlich". Don't ask me why, our language is weird like that. As for the books themselves, I think the first one's got profiles of the cats from the third arc. At least that's what I got from the introduction. The second one is a... "friend-book"? No idea what they are called in English. Anyway, it's where you ask your friends to write in it. Their name, birthday, number or e-mail address, favorite stuff, what they like about you.
Edit: I tried to read the introduction to the ClanFamilienbuch again and from what I gathered it also says that there's some stuff to fill out. Maybe that the cat's profiles aren't complete and you have to do that yourself. I guess it's a way to test your knowledge of them? No idea. It's a little hard to read on the image. And apparently you can draw something too. I don't have the book though so I don't know what the rest looks like.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 2, 2021 14:39:56 GMT -5
//puts on study
I have learned something new. Very nice. :3 Thank you!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2021 23:27:28 GMT -5
Learning more grammar today to the point where I'm like ;0; Yaaay! Another thing makes sense!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 6, 2021 14:52:54 GMT -5
Ooooo! I don't think I said. But I'm A2 level now!!!
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Post by Leapkit on May 7, 2021 1:50:07 GMT -5
Popping in to say it kinda looks like the second german book might be a guidebook for the warrior cats tabletop rpg maybe.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:15:22 GMT -5
SV1('kein' but only if it is referring to an Object that is a noun)O(adj. and adv. here?)V2
I am slowly unpuzzling German grammar. Slowly, but I'm getting there. I wonder if I should do my rambling here instead of the Discord channel I was in. I'm trying to work out basic word order. It's soooooorta working. I feel a bit like a scientist. I keep going "Ah! So this and this must happen!" and then I get something that doesn't fit and I'm like "Theory failed. New theory!"
My linguistic class has been a surprising help. I know that there is patterns now to language, things aren't just random, but there may be lists of exceptions and false friends.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:16:01 GMT -5
The reasoning behind "kein" I get. The reasoning behind 'nicht' still escapes me.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:22:32 GMT -5
SV1('kein' but only if it is referring to an Object that is a noun)O(adj. and adv. here?)V2
Now ... does kein go SV1(kein)(qualifier)O(adj. and adv. here?)V2
Or does kein go SV1(qualifier)(kein)O(adj. and adv. here?)V2
Similarly, where the heck does propositions go?
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:26:15 GMT -5
Hum. Wait. I'm trying to think of a sentence where there would be a qualifier and 'kein.' I currently can't think of one. Huuuum. There likely is, but I may be going too deep into the grammar without considering how things sound. Likely the sentences eventually would work better with 'nicht.'
Maybe.
Regardless, knowing what can or can't go around a qualifier or proposition would be useful ...
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:29:30 GMT -5
I am most often finding: SV1('kein' but only if it is referring to an Object that is a noun)O(adj. and adv. here?)('nicht')V2 The nicht right before V2, but I know that isn't always the case. I'm just finding it a lot. Nicht seems to have more complicated rules than kein and I have not grasped them all yet.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:32:25 GMT -5
And yes, I've started to toss everything into this hodgepodge of a "graph" regardless of whether or not it would actually all be in the same sentence. I don't think you'd have 'kein' and 'nicht' in the same clause. You'd probably at least need a separate clause. Though that's an assumption I'm jumping to with no information to back it up.
But anyway, the mess I have so far is something I'll have to split up soon, because not even I'll be able to read it soon.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:39:48 GMT -5
I know you can move things around to stress a word. I'm wondering if there are other rules though. Like words (or maybe 'forms of words') that you can't move around for stressing purposes ...
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 10:47:40 GMT -5
So from what I've seeing, at the very least adv. do always go at the back of the object they're describing.
Can I say I hate this but also it makes sense?
Stress is on "Me" so it moves to the front (you're making 'me' the subject.) Mich hat sie is your base. (Me has she) SVO. Then you have two adverbs describing "she" (I think??? I think that's the phrase I'm looking for). 'also' (or 'either' if you prefer) and 'never' Mich hat sie auch nie gemocht. Because V2 gets tacked on at the end, as usual. My only question is I'm just assuming that 'auch nie' is 'auch nie' rather than 'nie auch' because of the meaning of the sentence? 'also me' rather than 'me also.'
I think.
Someone please tell me if I'm making a glaring mistake in my reasoning at any point. Teeny mistakes are fine, those will get ironed out, but if I'm over here making a learning crippling mistake, someone please poke me.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 7, 2021 14:49:59 GMT -5
The slow demystification of German brings me joy.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 8, 2021 12:59:41 GMT -5
Someone vote for my fate.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 8, 2021 17:17:59 GMT -5
I need a tie breaker.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 9, 2021 22:13:28 GMT -5
Haven't had a chance to do anything on the list yet. @.@
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 10, 2021 14:09:25 GMT -5
I did this: Listen to audiobook/read at the same time Feuerstern's Mission
The audiobook is abridged, as it turns out, pfft. But still works out. I'm picking up more words.
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