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AsiPasasi
oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Jan 2, 2021 3:16:39 GMT -5
Obviously it belongs to RiverClan. "But we need prey in leaf-bare wahh" uhh no you don't? just enter seasonal hibernation. But if I enter hibernation, then I can't take naps, since I'll already be sleeping! well have I got the invention for you! naps 2 , They are like the regular naps, but you nap twice at the same time!
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 2, 2021 3:18:04 GMT -5
But if I enter hibernation, then I can't take naps, since I'll already be sleeping! well have I got the invention for you! naps 2 , They are like the regular naps, but you nap twice at the same time! Oooh!
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 2, 2021 7:25:32 GMT -5
Leopardstar once mentioned that RiverClan dosen't eat any other kind of prey apart from fish. Why would they need a bunch of rocks ThunderClan can easily use, by hiding behind them or inside the undergrowth that provides the area? It's also a place we can use to seek refuge if there is a forest fire or something.
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#ffe4d0
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AsiPasasi
oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Jan 2, 2021 11:08:19 GMT -5
Leopardstar once mentioned that RiverClan dosen't eat any other kind of prey apart from fish. Why would they need a bunch of rocks ThunderClan can easily use, by hiding behind them or inside the undergrowth that provides the area? It's also a place we can use to seek refuge if there is a forest fire or something. If RiverClan starts giving out pieces of land simply because other clans need it too, we will seem weak (which we are certainly not) and be prone to attacks from other clans (which is a nuisance).
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 2, 2021 11:59:46 GMT -5
*quickly checks 2020 Warriors Debate* SUNDANCE YOU MONSTER!!
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 2, 2021 12:54:34 GMT -5
Leopardstar once mentioned that RiverClan dosen't eat any other kind of prey apart from fish. Why would they need a bunch of rocks ThunderClan can easily use, by hiding behind them or inside the undergrowth that provides the area? It's also a place we can use to seek refuge if there is a forest fire or something. If RiverClan starts giving out pieces of land simply because other clans need it too, we will seem weak (which we are certainly not) and be prone to attacks from other clans (which is a nuisance). But why not after a battle, let Thunderclan have it, then slightly increase the number of patrols? Or the number of cats per patrol?
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Post by Sundance on Jan 2, 2021 13:51:08 GMT -5
*quickly checks 2020 Warriors Debate* SUNDANCE YOU MONSTER!! 😈 oh no need to check ..... just trust my word on it and we’re all good
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Name Colour
Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 2, 2021 13:57:34 GMT -5
*quickly checks 2020 Warriors Debate* SUNDANCE YOU MONSTER!! 😈 oh no need to check ..... just trust my word on it and we’re all good
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 2, 2021 14:38:49 GMT -5
Leopardstar once mentioned that RiverClan dosen't eat any other kind of prey apart from fish. Why would they need a bunch of rocks ThunderClan can easily use, by hiding behind them or inside the undergrowth that provides the area? It's also a place we can use to seek refuge if there is a forest fire or something. it makes no sense for riverclan to only eat fish 24/7. they need to let fish repopulate the area or risk over fishing. and i tried looking on the wiki page for any mentions of leopardstar claiming such a thing, and cant find it. i only remember them mentioning in the books about the river being frozen or poisoned and they needed to resort to land hunting.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 2, 2021 15:12:32 GMT -5
Leopardstar once mentioned that RiverClan dosen't eat any other kind of prey apart from fish. Why would they need a bunch of rocks ThunderClan can easily use, by hiding behind them or inside the undergrowth that provides the area? It's also a place we can use to seek refuge if there is a forest fire or something. it makes no sense for riverclan to only eat fish 24/7. they need to let fish repopulate the area or risk over fishing. and i tried looking on the wiki page for any mentions of leopardstar claiming such a thing, and cant find it. i only remember them mentioning in the books about the river being frozen or poisoned and they needed to resort to land hunting. “No, they don’t,” Blackstar objected, poking his head out from the foliage. “The lake borders all our territories. We’re just as entitled to the fish as you are.” “Especially now,” Onestar added. “We’re all suffering from the drought. Prey is scarce in all our territories. If we can’t eat fish, we’ll starve.” Lionblaze stared at the two leaders in astonishment. Were ShadowClan and WindClan really so hungry that they’d been adding fish to their fresh-kill pile? Things must be really bad. “But it’s worse for us,” Leopardstar insisted. “RiverClan doesn’t eat any other kind of prey, so all the fish should belong to us.” (In The Fourth Apprentice) Mhmm... You do have a point about the overfishing. But i've always thought that ThunderClan could always have a better use to it, since there is plenty of undergrowth and places ThunderClan can hide in while RiverClan are not used to that type of hunting, and would have difficulty trying to hunt in it. It's also a good place to train apprentices and gather herbs. In leaf-bare, or times where there is lack of prey, they would need all the abundance that comes from there. If RiverClan needed to resort to land hunting, i imagine their forest would be really filled with prey since they don't hunt much there. ThunderClan might need it all year-round.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 15:51:39 GMT -5
I thought RiverClan ate water voles too?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 2, 2021 15:58:03 GMT -5
it makes no sense for riverclan to only eat fish 24/7. they need to let fish repopulate the area or risk over fishing. and i tried looking on the wiki page for any mentions of leopardstar claiming such a thing, and cant find it. i only remember them mentioning in the books about the river being frozen or poisoned and they needed to resort to land hunting. “No, they don’t,” Blackstar objected, poking his head out from the foliage. “The lake borders all our territories. We’re just as entitled to the fish as you are.” “Especially now,” Onestar added. “We’re all suffering from the drought. Prey is scarce in all our territories. If we can’t eat fish, we’ll starve.” Lionblaze stared at the two leaders in astonishment. Were ShadowClan and WindClan really so hungry that they’d been adding fish to their fresh-kill pile? Things must be really bad. “But it’s worse for us,” Leopardstar insisted. “RiverClan doesn’t eat any other kind of prey, so all the fish should belong to us.” (In The Fourth Apprentice) Mhmm... You do have a point about the overfishing. But i've always thought that ThunderClan could always have a better use to it, since there is plenty of undergrowth and places ThunderClan can hide in while RiverClan are not used to that type of hunting, and would have difficulty trying to hunt in it. It's also a good place to train apprentices and gather herbs. In leaf-bare, or times where there is lack of prey, they would need all the abundance that comes from there. If RiverClan needed to resort to land hunting, i imagine their forest would be really filled with prey since they don't hunt much there. ThunderClan might need it all year-round. oh! thanks for providing the quote. its kinda dumb that they made riverclan like this because i am thinking about overfishing, and about leafbare. if the river freezes over completely, they'd have to find other ways to get food, and that means land hunting. thunderclan in the forest was surrounded by trees, especially to the right side. on the left near sunningrocks, there's not many trees, so in my mind sunningrocks belonged to riverclan because: sunningrocks is riverclan's drying stone AND last resort hunting grounds in hardships. can someone find a quote about the river being poisoned or something? idk why i keep bringing it up, but i cant cite a book for it.
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 2, 2021 16:12:02 GMT -5
Just want to point out, Leopardstar was clearly exaggerating, especially since TFA is also the same book where she claimed that RiverClan owned the lake, the reason for the above conversation in the first place. We've seen RiverClan eat different kinds of prey besides fish countless times. Crookedjaw even became deputy through a "sign" via a squirrel from the fresh-kill pile, and that was in greenleaf. Fish is their primary source, sure, but not their only one.
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 2, 2021 19:56:15 GMT -5
I think they belong to RiverClan solely because they had them first and had been actively using them the whole time. Every clan was perfectly fine with how the boundaries were before so I'm not sure why TC thought they could just take more territory (is "the river's path changed" really a good excuse?). Yes, it is a good excuse. Since the river changed, Sunningrocks was easier to get to by Thunderclan than by Riverclan. By "actively using it", you mean laying on the rocks. Thunderclan uses the rocks for hunting. As the territories change, naturally, so will the borders.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jan 2, 2021 21:35:20 GMT -5
Of course it belongs to ThunderClan.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jan 2, 2021 21:53:44 GMT -5
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about this issue, I haven’t picked a side yet. Feel free to try to convince me!
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 2, 2021 22:04:43 GMT -5
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about this issue, I haven’t picked a side yet. Feel free to try to convince me! Thunderclan uses it for hunting and recreation. Riverclan just uses it for recreation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 22:53:04 GMT -5
I think our side might actually win this time!
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Jan 4, 2021 16:37:21 GMT -5
I'm leaning towards RiverClan... hmmm.
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#ffe4d0
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AsiPasasi
oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Jan 5, 2021 0:56:33 GMT -5
YES, We got 4 more votes!
TC got 6 but they don't matter
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Aromantic
Altair
2020 never existed
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Post by Altair on Jan 5, 2021 0:59:30 GMT -5
YES, We got 4 more votes! TC got 6 but they don't matter*coughs*
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#ffe4d0
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AsiPasasi
oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Jan 5, 2021 3:09:54 GMT -5
OK RiverClan, I got a plan.
Ya know how those goody four-paws ThunderClan always say that because the river changed sunningrocks belong to them? Well, how about we recourse the river to include sunningrocks in our territory? Sunningrocks belong to us anyway but this would be a good way to spite them.
In fact, I'll start doing it now! *begins to dig a trench*
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Jan 5, 2021 3:42:44 GMT -5
I think I'll help! RiverClan! *grabs shovel*
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Post by fire on Jan 5, 2021 8:26:11 GMT -5
I say ThunderClan. Even if RiverClan originally claimed it, it serves no use for them in the colder moons since they only really use it for relaxing in the sun. They've claimed they don't like the prey that ThunderClan hunts, so they likely won't be getting food from around there. The rocks are near ThunderClan territory and arguably on their territory, plus they could use all the food they can get in the colder moons. So I say ThunderClan. If the Clans were to reach a compromise, then RiverClan could get the rocks in greenleaf, and then ThunderClan could get them for the rest of the year.
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 5, 2021 9:08:11 GMT -5
I say ThunderClan. Even if RiverClan originally claimed it, it serves no use for them in the colder moons since they only really use it for relaxing in the sun. They've claimed they don't like the prey that ThunderClan hunts, so they likely won't be getting food from around there. The rocks are near ThunderClan territory and arguably on their territory, plus they could use all the food they can get in the colder moons. So I say ThunderClan. If the Clans were to reach a compromise, then RiverClan could get the rocks in greenleaf, and then ThunderClan could get them for the rest of the year. Sharing is a slippery slope to stealing. Especially with Riverclam involved.
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#ffe4d0
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AsiPasasi
oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Jan 5, 2021 9:16:27 GMT -5
I say ThunderClan. Even if RiverClan originally claimed it, it serves no use for them in the colder moons since they only really use it for relaxing in the sun. They've claimed they don't like the prey that ThunderClan hunts, so they likely won't be getting food from around there. The rocks are near ThunderClan territory and arguably on their territory, plus they could use all the food they can get in the colder moons. So I say ThunderClan. If the Clans were to reach a compromise, then RiverClan could get the rocks in greenleaf, and then ThunderClan could get them for the rest of the year. Sharing is a slippery slope to stealing. Especially with Riverclam involved. yeah because everyone wants to steal our stuff
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Brokenstar
Conquer Windclan! Train kits too early! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Brokenstar on Jan 5, 2021 9:36:18 GMT -5
Sharing is a slippery slope to stealing. Especially with Riverclam involved. yeah because everyone wants to steal our stuff You're more likely to steal than Thunderclan.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 7, 2021 18:28:53 GMT -5
Bump!
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Post by Rainsplash on Jan 7, 2021 19:19:57 GMT -5
I believe RiverClan will have other spaces to dry their fur. While they want it to bathe around in the sun, ThunderClan needs if for FOOD. FOOD. The forest gets empty many times, and well, I'd like it to be neutral territory... for TC and RC.
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