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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 15:31:21 GMT -5
I asked him about when Leopardstar’s Honor starts, and why the title was changed. Here is what he replied with earlier this morning:
“I hope you’re doing well.
That title is correct. At a certain point in the development, we realized ‘Salvation’ wasn’t quite the best word to use for the story we had developed.
I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life, all the way back to when she was Leopardkit, although I should not, for obvious reasons - tell you when the main thrust of the story occurs (my understanding is, blurbs and other promo material are still being worked on, that will likely reveal this at a later date). I can say, though, that this was - narratively speaking - the editorial team’s most ambitious undertaking since GRAYSTRIPE’S VOW, involving quite a bit of reading of old titles on our part, that became almost mathematical in figuring out where, in the classic timeline, our new scenes could go.” -J
This has me pretty excited. It seems like they’re trying their best to stay faithful to the canon that already exists. Also I’m glad this seems like it’ll have the feel of the classic SEs such as Bluestar’s or Crookedstar’s, where we see the character grow from kit to leader.
Thoughts?
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Dec 15, 2020 15:36:41 GMT -5
I'm super excited! I can't wait to see what eras of her life this SE will touch on.
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Post by Fernflower on Dec 15, 2020 15:42:22 GMT -5
" involving quite a bit of reading of old titles on our part, that became almost mathematical in figuring out where, in the classic timeline, our new scenes could go.” -J Now THAT'S something I like to hear. From what James said, it seems like they're putting more of an effort to keep things consistent and accurate, and that's something that really makes or breaks a book for me. Really looking forward to this book (even though Leopardstar is one of my least favorite cats, I can't deny that her perspective will be extremely interesting).
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Dec 15, 2020 16:06:50 GMT -5
Her super edition will go from her being a kit to leader? OMG YESS
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Post by AsiPasasi on Dec 15, 2020 16:12:50 GMT -5
WOO! Reading older books to prevent inconsistencies!
This sounds like it will focus mainly on her time as a warrior up to becoming deputy/beginning-mid TPB, and while I didn't think of it as an option, it actually sounds very interesting. I guess we'll get to see what made her become worth of being deputy after Oakheart.
Do we know if she were in that battle for Sunningrocks when Oakheart died?
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 16:35:57 GMT -5
WOO! Reading older books to prevent inconsistencies! This sounds like it will focus mainly on her time as a warrior up to becoming deputy/beginning-mid TPB, and while I didn't think of it as an option, it actually sounds very interesting. I guess we'll get to see what made her become worth of being deputy after Oakheart. Do we know if she were in that battle for Sunningrocks when Oakheart died? She wasn’t mentioned to be present, although that doesn’t mean she wasn’t there.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 15, 2020 16:54:15 GMT -5
we already got some stuff from crookedstar's SE on her early life...i hope her kit and apprentice chapters dont last too long. i want the majority of it to focus on her warriorhood to deputyhood, then her inner thoughts when she's leader...because that's what people want. we want to know what she thought and went through after the tigerstar stuff. i hope majority of it will be about THAT and not her past that we already know quite a bit about.
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Post by Brindlefern on Dec 15, 2020 17:11:56 GMT -5
Hopefully they don't forget that Leopardstar was said to be a Drypaw back then. I don't think we've seen a RC cat that didn't like water at first.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 17:36:17 GMT -5
we already got some stuff from crookedstar's SE on her early life...i hope her kit and apprentice chapters dont last too long. i want the majority of it to focus on her warriorhood to deputyhood, then her inner thoughts when she's leader...because that's what people want. we want to know what she thought and went through after the tigerstar stuff. i hope majority of it will be about THAT and not her past that we already know quite a bit about. "I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life, all the way back to when she was Leopardkit, although I should not – for obvious reasons – tell you when the main thrust of the story occurs (my understanding...)" What he says here seems to imply that her early life will not be the main focus of the story.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Dec 15, 2020 17:36:29 GMT -5
Hopefully we get to see her relationship with Sunfish because their dynamic is interesting, i remember she thought her how to not fear water. And also, more in-depth personalities of every cat in RiverClan. Something similar to Crookedstar's promise, where we saw their culture, battle moves and hunting techniques would be really interesting, considering in the newer books the Clans seem to have lost of what makes them different.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 17:40:00 GMT -5
Hopefully we get to see her relationship with Sunfish because their dynamic is interesting, i remember she thought her how to not fear water. And also, more in-depth personalities of every cat in RiverClan. Something similar to Crookedstar's promise, where we saw their culture, battle moves and hunting techniques would be really interesting, considering in the newer books the Clans seem to have lost of what makes them different. I totally agree, this would be really wholesome to see. I did mention this to James to back when they were plotting the outline of the story. He said he would keep it in mind, so I think it's likely we will see it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:00:44 GMT -5
This is fantastic news! It's good to finally have an SE that doesn't center around just one or two events, I deeply prefer the ones that focus on a cat's whole life, and on THEM, and not on other cats and just a few events like Crowfeather's Trial, Tigerheart's Shadow, etc. This is fantastic, though, I hope there will be a good chunk that takes place in modern RiverClan as well.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Dec 15, 2020 18:05:27 GMT -5
I wonder if I should find it depressing that I got so excited when James said that they're gonna keep the timeline correct, lol. But I really can't wait to read Leopardstar's Honor. It seems like the writing team is really going to stay on top of the canon and characters, which excites me. I'm really curious as to what perspective Leopardstar will be presented in.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 15, 2020 18:05:58 GMT -5
we already got some stuff from crookedstar's SE on her early life...i hope her kit and apprentice chapters dont last too long. i want the majority of it to focus on her warriorhood to deputyhood, then her inner thoughts when she's leader...because that's what people want. we want to know what she thought and went through after the tigerstar stuff. i hope majority of it will be about THAT and not her past that we already know quite a bit about. "I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life, all the way back to when she was Leopardkit, although I should not – for obvious reasons – tell you when the main thrust of the story occurs (my understanding...)" What he says here seems to imply that her early life will not be the main focus of the story. thanks for clarifying. my reading comprehension skills have lowered RIP
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 18:17:45 GMT -5
This is fantastic news! It's good to finally have an SE that doesn't center around just one or two events, I deeply prefer the ones that focus on a cat's whole life, and on THEM, and not on other cats and just a few events like Crowfeather's Trial, Tigerheart's Shadow, etc. This is fantastic, though, I hope there will be a good chunk that takes place in modern RiverClan as well. How could it take place in modern RiverClan, though? Leopardstar dies in Fading Echoes, which is quite a bit before the events of The Broken Code.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:32:23 GMT -5
This is fantastic news! It's good to finally have an SE that doesn't center around just one or two events, I deeply prefer the ones that focus on a cat's whole life, and on THEM, and not on other cats and just a few events like Crowfeather's Trial, Tigerheart's Shadow, etc. This is fantastic, though, I hope there will be a good chunk that takes place in modern RiverClan as well. How could it take place in modern RiverClan, though? Leopardstar dies in Fading Echoes, which is quite a bit before the events of The Broken Code. I count modern RiverClan as from the time they got to the lake territory to now, and she was alive during some of that.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 18:45:03 GMT -5
How could it take place in modern RiverClan, though? Leopardstar dies in Fading Echoes, which is quite a bit before the events of The Broken Code. I count modern RiverClan as from the time they got to the lake territory to now, and she was alive during some of that. Ah, if that's what you mean by 'modern' RiverClan, then it's more than likely we will see them during the lake era. "I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life," implies there will be a lot of time covered in it. The older SEs had a lot of timeskips in between chapters, so if this is like that then there's a very strong chance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:46:25 GMT -5
I count modern RiverClan as from the time they got to the lake territory to now, and she was alive during some of that. Ah, if that's what you mean by 'modern' RiverClan, then it's more than likely we will see them during the lake era. "I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life," implies there will be a lot of time covered in it. The older SEs had a lot of timeskips in between chapters, so if this is like that then there's a very strong chance. That's really awesome, Blackclaw was her foster brother, wasn't he? I hope we get conformation that he's Reedwhisker's dad in the book.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 18:47:41 GMT -5
Ah, if that's what you mean by 'modern' RiverClan, then it's more than likely we will see them during the lake era. "I can tell you, the super will touch on many eras of Leopardstar’s life," implies there will be a lot of time covered in it. The older SEs had a lot of timeskips in between chapters, so if this is like that then there's a very strong chance. That's really awesome, Blackclaw was her foster brother, wasn't he? I hope we get conformation that he's Reedwhisker's dad in the book. Yes, he was. That would be interesting, it's been my headcanon as well. ^^
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:49:35 GMT -5
That's really awesome, Blackclaw was her foster brother, wasn't he? I hope we get conformation that he's Reedwhisker's dad in the book. Yes, he was. That would be interesting, it's been my headcanon as well. ^^ I really like the idea of Blackclaw naming one of his children after his father, since Reedwhisker had a brother called Pikepaw, and Blackclaw's father was called Piketooth. It's going to be great to see all the old RiverClan cats from Crookedstar's Promise again. I wonder if we'll get a father for Mallownose and Sneezecloud, since they were born at the start of POT? I doubt it, but it's possible maybe.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 18:53:01 GMT -5
Yes, he was. That would be interesting, it's been my headcanon as well. ^^ I really like the idea of Blackclaw naming one of his children after his father, since Reedwhisker had a brother called Pikepaw, and Blackclaw's father was called Piketooth. It's going to be great to see all the old RiverClan cats from Crookedstar's Promise again. I wonder if we'll get a father for Mallownose and Sneezecloud, since they were born at the start of POT? I doubt it, but it's possible maybe. Kate already confirmed Ottersplash is "alive and well" sometime during LH, so I'd assume we'll get to see those cats at least during the start of it. I just reread Crookedstar's Promise (BEST SE) this summer, so the events are fresh in my mind. I'm excited to revisit them again. It's possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 18:55:14 GMT -5
I really like the idea of Blackclaw naming one of his children after his father, since Reedwhisker had a brother called Pikepaw, and Blackclaw's father was called Piketooth. It's going to be great to see all the old RiverClan cats from Crookedstar's Promise again. I wonder if we'll get a father for Mallownose and Sneezecloud, since they were born at the start of POT? I doubt it, but it's possible maybe. Kate already confirmed Ottersplash is "alive and well" sometime during LH, so I'd assume we'll get to see those cats at least during the start of it. I just reread Crookedstar's Promise (BEST SE) this summer, so the events are fresh in my mind. I'm excited to revisit them again. It's possible. That's great! I really liked all the cats in Crookedstar's Promise, I think the only one who annoyed me was Rainflower, the rest though? They were fantastic. I hope this SE remembers their personalities from Crookedstar's Promise, and they don't like like...Owlfur super jerky and aggressive or something.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 18:57:29 GMT -5
Kate already confirmed Ottersplash is "alive and well" sometime during LH, so I'd assume we'll get to see those cats at least during the start of it. I just reread Crookedstar's Promise (BEST SE) this summer, so the events are fresh in my mind. I'm excited to revisit them again. It's possible. That's great! I really liked all the cats in Crookedstar's Promise, I think the only one who annoyed me was Rainflower, the rest though? They were fantastic. I hope this SE remembers their personalities from Crookedstar's Promise, and they don't like like...Owlfur super jerky and aggressive or something. I think the chances of that happening are fairly low. James implied they're doing their research this time to remain true to canon, so I think it'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 19:00:10 GMT -5
That's great! I really liked all the cats in Crookedstar's Promise, I think the only one who annoyed me was Rainflower, the rest though? They were fantastic. I hope this SE remembers their personalities from Crookedstar's Promise, and they don't like like...Owlfur super jerky and aggressive or something. I think the chances of that happening are fairly low. James implied they're doing their research this time to remain true to canon, so I think it'll be fine. That's great! I also hope we find out more about Vixenkit and Grasskit as well. I wasn't looking forward to this SE at all, but now, I kind of am.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 19:01:55 GMT -5
I think the chances of that happening are fairly low. James implied they're doing their research this time to remain true to canon, so I think it'll be fine. That's great! I also hope we find out more about Vixenkit and Grasskit as well. I wasn't looking forward to this SE at all, but now, I kind of am. I never wanted a Leopardstar book in the first place either as I don't really like her, but it's another RiverClan SE so I'm excited.
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Post by *Faith* on Dec 15, 2020 19:14:17 GMT -5
Oh, yay! I can't wait. This would explain Ottersplash's appearance as well. She was a queen in the nursery when Leopardstar was a kit. I'm still hoping for a nine lives ceremony. And maybe we'll see her warrior ceremony as well. CP just had her apprentice ceremony. I kind of want to see what Leopardstar's thoughts were when her father became medicine cat. Also, Whiteclaw. SOTC stated that he was her apprentice.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 15, 2020 19:18:58 GMT -5
Oh, yay! I can't wait. This would explain Ottersplash's appearance as well. She was a queen in the nursery when Leopardstar was a kit. I'm still hoping for a nine lives ceremony. And maybe we'll see her warrior ceremony as well. CP just had her apprentice ceremony. I kind of want to see what Leopardstar's thoughts were when her father became medicine cat. Also, Whiteclaw. SOTC stated that he was her apprentice. I think seeing her apprentice ceremony, warrior ceremony, and leader ceremony are all very likely. I would like to know what she thought about Mudfur becoming a medicine cat, too. I wouldn't be surprised if they remembered about Whiteclaw since James said they're reviewing a lot of old titles in order to be ready for this book.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 19:23:18 GMT -5
That's great! I also hope we find out more about Vixenkit and Grasskit as well. I wasn't looking forward to this SE at all, but now, I kind of am. I never wanted a Leopardstar book in the first place either as I don't really like her, but it's another RiverClan SE so I'm excited. That's true, I thought Reedwhisker would have made more sense, but you get what you get I guess lol. I didn't vote for her myself on the poll, I voted for Onestar, but It will be good to get a RiverClan SE again, and WindClan is getting their first manga ever, so it works out perfectly I just hope we'll get to see something from Onestar's POV during his leadership.
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