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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 7, 2020 0:33:47 GMT -5
It's all good! I inserted it into a block of text so I don't blame you for missing it akdfjaskjf You can call me Spark! What about you??
What's their technology level? Maybe the sky dragons could have a flying steampunk-like city that's powered by their magic item? Getting their item stolen would suck cause their city would be grounded. It could always be an ancient city created by some higher power to, if we don't want them to have that good of technological capabilities lol
Maybe the water/ice dragons could live on a city made of ice with rivers instead of streets or smthn?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 0:51:05 GMT -5
Well Spark, End is a good name for me~ ^^
Oh I was considering that too! I thought their city being grounded would be particularly troublesome but it was on the back burner because I wanted everyone to be equally affected...I suppose we could simply have everyone's home be dependent on their Special Thing, then, and maybe the younger dragons are protesting that archaic system because reliance has made them weak~?
Ah I never considered technology- I'd say perhaps the eastern dragons have more intelligent people but western dragons have more creative ones? Of course there's crossover, but I mean on average. Eastern dragons may be so steeped in culture that they can't think outside the box but western dragons represent the purveyance of culture in that they have a much larger effect on the world? That is to say, I think Earth dragons would be more steampunk~
Oh, that's an awesome idea! They could live on a city of rivers like Venice! And I just realized we need to make two versions of capitals- as in Western Water Dragon cities vs Eastern Water Dragon Cities. I think western could be the city of rivers and eastern rely on like, a hidden city in an underwater cave?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 0:52:06 GMT -5
Sorry that's a lot. ^^ I ate some chocolate cake and got my second wind
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 7, 2020 0:55:52 GMT -5
Great! And it's all good, I like to read what you have in mind ^^
I like the difference between them! It'll really make 'em feel more unique and give basic guidance when making characters for each type. Maybe not all of them live apart? Like, the cave dragons could maybe get along better and live in the same area since a city within the cave is already pretty secretive? Where maybe the water dragons don't get along and live in different places completely.
We could always have there be internal fighting for their sources of power as well. For examples, using the water dragons, the western dragons have the power source so their city thrives more. Wherein the eastern ones don't have it so they're forced to live in an underwater cave instead of the aboveground city?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 1:18:01 GMT -5
Honestly that all sounds awesome! Yes to all of it~! I'll be sure to add it in and consider more relations for every element when I get the chance~ ^^
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 7, 2020 15:06:43 GMT -5
Awesome! Did you ever decide on a complete list for the types of dragons? I'd love to do some more thinking on their cities and such. Oh, also, did you wanna do some brainstorming for the other races maybe?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 19:54:33 GMT -5
By types do you mean elements? And sure! I was thinking the kemo race- need an actual name- would generally live in forest cities perhaps close to earth dragons in a way? Humans are everywhere, naturally. I'm considering leaving out the dwarves and having them live on a different continent because we already have cave dragons. There might be a few around, but they originate from another place. And that's the extent of what I've been able to accomplish ;;; Unfortunately I'm indisposed today and I've been busy since I woke up but I'll look over what we have and try to make it easier to sift through when I can. Sorry!
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 7, 2020 20:04:20 GMT -5
Yeah! Sorry, should've clarified lol
Take your time! We could always call the kemonomimi 'Beastkin' or 'Beastmen', pretty common but simple! Have you considered adding more races? Like elves, fairies, halflings, etc? Not that they'd need to be added, it might just give the RPers more options. Just an idea tho, we can totally keep to what we have as well!!
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 20:49:37 GMT -5
Thanks!
No problem~ Haha sorry but what d'you mean again? ^^" Like what would they be like? Or if I've decided on keeping the elements I'm using? As for what they'd be like I have a few examples: color will definitely be a facet, but not based on element, it'd be for the best adaptation. Like, earth dragons can be mottled with brown, green, gray- basically camo patterns to help them hunt in forests. Eastern earth dragons can have stripes instead, because they're in bamboo forests & the like! Lightning dragons would have large spines on their backs that can be raised or laid flat; helping them conduct electricity. And then of course, western dragons would look like the ones from Eragon and eastern ones are of the expected serpentine kind, but with wings depending on element.
Ooh, okay! I like the 'kin' part, but maybe we can find another prefix? The 'beast' part seems to suggest they won't quite be civilized? On that note, you've sparked another idea! Dragons may be the dominating race, but they need some form of resistance~ I don't want to add fey, halflings, etc because I'd rather the focus be on the dragons. And as you said, it'd be a lot more brainstorming haha~ Buut I think we can add giants and orcs to the mix! Also, there'll be a lot more dangerous animals that are naturally large, or else the ecosystem won't be able to support the dragons. So! Most animals will be prehistoric huge to match- like a hawk big enough to ride on, as an example. That way we can explain why the kemonomimi race are present: being half animal is actually a survival adaptation that makes them better hunters. Strengthened senses, strength, speed, etc would make it easier for them to take down a boar the size of a horse~
What d'you think? ^^
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 7, 2020 20:57:11 GMT -5
I just wanted to know if the dragon elements list was finalized ^^ I had noticed a few question marks here and there :0
Maybe like uhhh 'creaturekin' or something? I like the idea! Though I'm not sure there are a lot of RPers who would willingly RP an orc or giant akldfjadf But having large animals that have evolved to be able to live alongside the dragons is a great idea!! It'll make for some fun fights against large and dangerous animals as well!
Speaking of the kemonomimi, will they also have two forms like the dragons? What I gathered from the front page was that the dragons had a more humanoid form as well as a serpentine one. Is that also gonna be the same for the kemono?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 21:34:25 GMT -5
Hm, I'm just deciding on the 'sub' abilities for sky dragons. Like what's an offshoot of fire if not lightning? Or air for that matter? More research is in order!
Hm, yeah! I'm also considering halfling because that's technically applicable? Or maybe 'Anima', and I intend to look up the history behind the world animal to find something too!
Haha I don't mind if no one wants to write an orc or giant- if that's okay? I'm adding them because it makes sense for the world and they can be natural enemies, but as the focus is on dragons, there won't really be a need for other races to come along. The staples are human and kemo, if someone would like another character~? I've seen some rps where there are a lot of races besides the 'important one' and they tend to get clogged up with unnecessary characters, and also become static because all of those characters are kind of wasted. And it seems like a lot to manage!
As a concession, I'm also considering giving humans a little bit of magic- but it's rare and reliant on the dragons' presence, as they're so magical and powerful that it affects everything around them. Hm...
Oh, that's a good question! Maybe some can and some can't. What do you think? ^^
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 7, 2020 21:44:30 GMT -5
I'm kind of talking to you on the side but I'll see about compiling this all onto the front page when I'm free. ^^" It's a bit to sift through and organize, but I'll have a section for what we're working on, what we're considering, and what we've decided.
Also! I've decided to take Saga out of the mix with Nitentrypp being the designated leader after Alenore- the previous erstwhile failure! I think he'll be an interesting choice because he's similar to her in some ways and may receive some pushback from the others because of this. A potentially fun disaster of a succession~! Also, have you decided on your character's position within the group? I won't put up any official roles, but it helps to know where you intend to fit because it makes for smoother group dynamics~ And example being, Labyrinth is the outsider who is apparently just there, Mireu is taking a wise 'support' kind of role where he defends and bolsters the group and provides information when needed but doesn't engage much in combat. He's mostly just wrangling them into some kind of order because Trypp is a Rowdy Fight Boy.
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Post by smellytoeshehe on Dec 8, 2020 17:53:11 GMT -5
Sorry for the late response, but you can call me Smelly, even if it sounds weird haha. I really like all the ideas but I have a question. What type of economy will the dragons have? Like will they have a money system but with gems (as cliché as that is).
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 8, 2020 18:04:43 GMT -5
Just checking in real quick to say excellent question! I think gems are more common amongst dragons but not an infinite resource- so kind of like we go up from cents to dollars, the 'lesser' money will be metal coins and the higher- like 50-500 will be common gems. So it's a mixture! The common gems will have a name- still deciding- and be different from typical gemstones/crystals that way there's Jade and diamonds, which are more expensive and actually special, and then the common gem which is actually a mix of metal and crystal.
That's also why cave dragons are typically more wealthy! They have a monopoly on the economy, although there are of course laws in place to keep things as fair as possible.
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 9, 2020 13:55:03 GMT -5
All your characters sound so fun!!
I think giving humans the ability to use magic is smart! They'll be stuck without it, I think. If you wanted it to be like Genshin you could have a similar system as to where not everyone can use it, but if they can they can choose from similar elements as the dragons or smthn.
Back to the kemono, it could also be fun to let some of them have the ability to shift. If you wanted to have a hierarchy of sorts in them as well you could say full shifts are limited to families who are considered royal or ancient or smthn.
LOVING the idea of mixing gems and coins as well!
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 10, 2020 5:11:59 GMT -5
Thanks~! ^^ I added another because I must use all of my dragons- and HY is a special boy because he's new~ ;;;
Great! Added~ Added as well!
Thanks! ^^ I've finally added everything so far to the front page.
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Post by smellytoeshehe on Dec 10, 2020 5:26:09 GMT -5
End, you said something about humans’ magic relying on the dragons so I was thinking maybe the humans would kill dragons to gain their powers? Not all the time but maybe the humans could have this festival (I don’t really know how many times it would occur. Twice a year maybe?) that is symbolic of power and good luck and in that festival they participate in this ritual where they go and kill dragons to get their powers? It might be too busy for the rp though, because you guys sound like you have a lot planned.
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 10, 2020 5:44:58 GMT -5
Honestly I think that's an awesome idea!! Unfortunately it won't work in this world, however. The dragons would just kill all the humans to make sure it doesn't happen again haha ^^"
The festival idea could still be kept though! What do you think about it being one where humans choose- or are chosen- by dragons to have some of their magic? It could be something that can help bolster relations between the two! However! It'd be something mentioned in passing if there are human side characters and likely wouldn't be a big part of the story. Still a cool idea though! Thanks for suggesting it!
As for what is next on the agenda:
*The dragons' sources of power will be called Foci (i.e Water Foci, Air Foci, etc) *The kemonomimi race are collectively called theriault or therians. *Some therians can shapeshift, and they are normally respected in their communities.
More focus needs to be applied to the dragons and their living arrangements. I think I'm good on differences between east and west, now we need physical distinctions between elements and a concrete idea of where & how they live. Water cities for both west & east have already been decided and names for places aren't a problem. We don't need to be too detailed, we just need reference points and we can build on lore throughout the story.
We also need to really consider connecting plot points. Characters can be secondary to that. 1. Are the Foci stolen or broken? 2. Who are the culprits? 3. How do the protagonists come together?
Lesser concerns are names for currency and subsidiaries for Sky dragons.
I think that's all so far?
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 10, 2020 10:42:12 GMT -5
Sorry for the long ass post, here are just my initial ideas for what you have written! Feel free to shoot any of them down haha they are just ideas and I don't really have my heart set on any.
Ok, so are you still happy with the cave, water, and sky dragons living arrangements? If so, we can move onto the other ones :3 Maybe for earth dragons we could let them have home in a large tree. Kinda like a city built into the branches and roots of the tree? The 'lesser' dragons could live in the roots and the higher standing a dragon is they could live higher in the branches? Idk, kinda overused but it has potential???
We could also go the classic 'fire dragons live near a volcano' or smthn. Maybe the eastern dragons live within it to avoid contact with other races, while western dragons live around it and take advantage of the fertile soil.
Electricity is a bit harder tbh. If you wanted to make them a bit more technologically advanced we could sat the electrical dragons have a higher tech city where they lock themselves in and are very elusive or smthn. Since they're very avoidant they could be suspicious in the beginning and could be a culprit for a while? Or their tech could be useful to the group and they need to track them down and get their help?
1. As for the Foci, I like the idea of them being stolen and the MCs having to get them back. But at the same time breaking them could have more permanent results and potentially bring the dragons down off their high horses a bit. If that makes sense lol
2. Honestly I don't have any great ideas for this lol. On one hand, I think it could be a dragon who wants to gather the power of the Foci and make their group the strongest. On the other hand it could totally be one of the other races who are tired of the dragons being the strongest around. Or something more deep that I am incapable of coming up with off the top of my head alkdfjalk
3. I liked your idea of maybe a royal dragon hiring them. Or at least the initial group. More characters could join as they go. Like a dragon that joins after their Foci is stolen/taken, or a therian who joins after they hear about the reward for it, etc etc.
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 10, 2020 18:26:59 GMT -5
Just dropping by real quick to share this continent creator that hopefully still works. My laptop is broken so I can't use it. ^^" Lengthy posts are very welcome! ^^
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 10, 2020 18:50:54 GMT -5
Ohh that sounds awesome! I like the idea of the royalty/more powerful dragons on the highest point of the trees! Reminds me of Lord of the Rings, haha~ And for Fire: that's another great idea! We could also apply your idea of one side having the Foci, which forces them all to live in close proximity~ Hmhm you're right on that! I like the idea of more tech advanced cities...and a little Google has given me an idea of materials that conduct and neutralize electricity...Perhaps if air dragons are floating, electric dragons could be in mountains nearby? We still need plans for western air dragons but oh- how about eastern electric dragons living in like, a canyon with a bunch of tall pillar-like & flat stones that would help them harness electricity? They could live in hidden coves in and around the pillars! Kinda like the Plates of Woah from Ice AgeAs for the latter half of your suggestion- yes, that makes sense! Them being more scientific would make the disappearance look suspicious and they could be a group the team seeks out first~ Nice! Honestly if this were a story instead of an rp, I would have the Foci broken with the MCs facing the question of whether they or anyone else would be forced to sacrifice their lives and become the new Foci~ Buut if we go the destroyed route, I think it'd be harder to tie the ending up neatly. So stolen it is! Same same! Haha~ Those were my go-to ideas but I was like maybe I'm capable of something more deep and impactful? And yet. You've given me an idea though! Perhaaps there's a single entity/person who wants to gather all of the Foci together to become the avatar or something, haha~ But more like, the Foci were originally combined and made dragons all-powerful but someone thought it was too much and separated the Foci for each type of dragon. And this bad guy wants to 'restore' the world? And I don't know. Maybe bring back an ancient super dragon? This idea I'm getting from Genshin Impact, haha~ Okay! I was thinking Alenore might be the royal dragon who goes around recruiting or court marshaling people into coming, so that works!
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 10, 2020 19:04:14 GMT -5
Ooooo the eastern electric dragons living in a stormy canyon would be really cool! It would also make it hard for the RPers to make their way to them. Hmmmm as for the eastern sky dragons, we could have them live on top of a mountain? But like, a realllyyy tall one. The peak could be above the clouds so they don't live in the cold, but the air would be thin and it wouldn't be possible for the other races to get there unless they have some sort of enchantment or something? Of course we could just say they live among each other since a flying city is pretty hard to get to for anyone else lol
I like the idea of there being one main boss who wants the power to themselves! Maybe they could have a lot of grunts who could be like mini bosses for the RPers to interact with and defeat. My first thought when you said all the Foci were put together was that maybe the Foci was originally a singular god, and when it broke it formed all the different types of dragons and that's their origin?? Idk it could explain why they're so powerful to. The main baddie could be like a religious zealot who intends on bringing back the ancient god or smthn? Idk, just some random ideas it brought to mind.
Sounds good!
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 13, 2020 5:51:54 GMT -5
Hello and sorry! ^^" I'm still wearing my backup glasses and they make looking at a screen difficult ;;; ---
Great! ^^ I was thinking a really tall mountain too- but do you think that suits the eastern or western dragons more? I was also thinking about general attitudes, but I think we can go simple and base them on ATLA- like earth dragons are stubborn, air dragons are flighty, water dragons are open-minded and adaptable, etc
Oh, that all sounds awesome! Let me add it into my Villain Origin Notes aha~
I was thinking of giving their currency the blanket name of zircon with rhine being the name of the coins?
We also need to consider what the languages will be called...the basic universal language can be 'common'...
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 13, 2020 6:12:09 GMT -5
Oho I just realized something- what's stopping the Villain if he's already stolen the Foci? Perhaps he's still trying to find out how to unlock them? Or perhaps he broke them by stealing them, so the protagonists are rushing to take them back before he's finished fixing them?
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 13, 2020 10:06:34 GMT -5
Maybe certain Foci cancel each other out if they're in close quarters unless all of them are present? The ones that don't cancel each other out could reflect relations between dragon groups or smthn?? It would also make it so the big bad isn't all powerful until they gets them all because they can only use certain Foci when in range of another? Like, we could start with them only having stolen one or two and their job is to try and stop them stealing more?
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Post by endingfairy on Dec 24, 2020 19:28:24 GMT -5
Probably weird to drop by on Christmas Eve but I owe you guys an explanation! I'm really sorry for disappearing without warning! My life became a bad movie for a bit and I was hit with a friend-related emergency and then literally hit my head. Haha...But fortunately she's recovering in the hospital and I'm healing from my concussion or something...So sorry, and thank you for your undue patience! ^^"
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Post by 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚔𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 on Dec 25, 2020 16:04:22 GMT -5
I'm glad things seem to have calmed down for you! It sounds like things have been a bit rough haha. Please take as much time as you need ^^
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