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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 11:52:57 GMT -5
I never really cared for the ship much, even before Finleap acted like a jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 11:56:00 GMT -5
No, not at all. I can only think of one person who I've seen who likes this ship.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 12:32:10 GMT -5
i dont think i know anybody who likes this ship lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 13:04:21 GMT -5
i dont think i know anybody who likes this ship lol Brindlefern had Twig x Fin as her profile picture not too long ago, so I assume she does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 13:51:05 GMT -5
Well I like them <3
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 25, 2020 14:04:41 GMT -5
it's probably underrated now because of how they messed up finleap for no reason...
they messed up bumblestripe to make tigerheart look better in dovewing's love drama...that happens all the time in love triangle stories (love rival needs their character to be assassinated to look bad so tht the primary love interest looks better in comparison...just think about jacob from twilight...his good guyness is ruined in eclipse because edward is back in the picture to make edward look better again).
but finleap? why did they ruin finleap if twigbranch has no other love interest BUT finleap? it makes ZERO SENSE to make finleap out to be a creep.
they ruined twigxfin for NO REASON...instead of finleap being a creep, they could have had a mature conversation and still have twigbranch tell him she's not ready, and since finleap was never a creep before this, he could have accepted it because he left his whole clan FOR HER! there's no way this simp wouldn't go with what she wants just so he can stay with HER.
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oh it's none of them
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Post by AsiPasasi on Oct 25, 2020 15:12:12 GMT -5
I've never heard of anyone who likes them before so I don't think they're overrated.
I really like them so I'm trying to somewhat ignore the part where Finleap was annoying and I just treat it as exaggeration of the "actual situation".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 18:48:24 GMT -5
it's probably underrated now because of how they messed up finleap for no reason... they messed up bumblestripe to make tigerheart look better in dovewing's love drama...that happens all the time in love triangle stories (love rival needs their character to be assassinated to look bad so tht the primary love interest looks better in comparison...just think about jacob from twilight...his good guyness is ruined in eclipse because edward is back in the picture to make edward look better again). but finleap? why did they ruin finleap if twigbranch has no other love interest BUT finleap? it makes ZERO SENSE to make finleap out to be a creep. they ruined twigxfin for NO REASON...instead of finleap being a creep, they could have had a mature conversation and still have twigbranch tell him she's not ready, and since finleap was never a creep before this, he could have accepted it because he left his whole clan FOR HER! there's no way this simp wouldn't go with what she wants just so he can stay with HER. Yeah! They seemed like they wanted Twig to be strong independent she-cat, who doesn't need a mate or kits...but they kept them together, it'd be a little less annoying if they broke up, but it's still so stupid. I bet they did it, because none of them are Firekin, and only Firekin can have kits in ThunderClan now.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 25, 2020 19:13:25 GMT -5
Didn't like it from the start. Saw the signs and wasn't surprised at the outcome either.
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#07B04C
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🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 25, 2020 20:15:09 GMT -5
I think TwigFin only seems overrated because of the number of people who hate or dislike it. For people liking the ship, no, it's definitely not overrated.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 25, 2020 20:32:33 GMT -5
i dont think i know anybody who likes this ship lol Brindlefern had Twig x Fin as her profile picture not too long ago, so I assume she does. Yeah I still like the ship. (This is Brindle btw) A ship isn't overrated when hardly anyone likes them as is. I'm one of the very few that still do and consider TRS non-canon. I even made the art that was in my icon before (Tho might switch it back) purely out of spite of the book.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 20:35:16 GMT -5
Brindlefern had Twig x Fin as her profile picture not too long ago, so I assume she does. Yeah I still like the ship. (This is Brindle btw) A ship isn't overrated when hardly anyone likes them as is. I'm one of the very few that still do and consider TRS non-canon. I even made the art that was in my icon before (Tho might switch it back) purely out of spite of the book. That sounds like a good idea, or at least just that scene, I still hate what they did to Finleap, and for basically no reason, like, nothing was gained or changed at all from this.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 25, 2020 20:41:26 GMT -5
Yeah I still like the ship. (This is Brindle btw) A ship isn't overrated when hardly anyone likes them as is. I'm one of the very few that still do and consider TRS non-canon. I even made the art that was in my icon before (Tho might switch it back) purely out of spite of the book. That sounds like a good idea, or at least just that scene, I still hate what they did to Finleap, and for basically no reason, like, nothing was gained or changed at all from this. Yeah when you think about it there really was no reason for them to have him act like that to Twig when literally every book before and after TRS he treats her with so much devotion and respect it's just such a literal definition of character whiplash it's ridiculous so I basically went "yeah frick that". And seeing folks say they "saw it coming" doesn't really help either, it feels as if it's trying to make those that didn't think it was "obvious" feel stupid or something, and I felt that way and was hesitant to ship FinTwig for a long time because of that. It wasn't obvious at all, ffs. It was drama for the sake of drama and nothing more, there was literally no "tells" that I can read. If I wrote a couple that was like FinTwig (As I love their dynamic in those couple books) outside TRS I can't help but wonder if they would assume the same bad would happen at this point.
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 25, 2020 20:55:22 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not really that overrated. And after TRS, I'm pretty sure most people hated the ship. They're fine now, thank goodness, but I don't think they're as popular as they used to be.
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Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 25, 2020 21:08:39 GMT -5
That sounds like a good idea, or at least just that scene, I still hate what they did to Finleap, and for basically no reason, like, nothing was gained or changed at all from this. Yeah when you think about it there really was no reason for them to have him act like that to Twig when literally every book before and after TRS he treats her with so much devotion and respect it's just such a literal definition of character whiplash it's ridiculous so I basically went "yeah frick that". And seeing folks say they "saw it coming" doesn't really help either, it feels as if it's trying to make those that didn't think it was "obvious" feel stupid or something, and I felt that way and was hesitant to ship FinTwig for a long time because of that. It wasn't obvious at all, ffs. It was drama for the sake of drama and nothing more, there was literally no "tells" that I can read. If I wrote a couple that was like FinTwig (As I love their dynamic in those couple books) outside TRS I can't help but wonder if they would assume the same bad would happen at this point.I don't get this, either. Thinking Finleap as impulsive, I get (this was the same cat who left his Clan for his crush practically on a whim, after all and I kinda wish this had been addressed more), but there was absolutely nothing in either DN or RoF that he would specifically pressure Twigbranch to have kits when they became warriors, act jealous of Tree to the point of accusing Twiggy of wanting to be with him now that Violetshine was gone, and threatening to go back to SkyClan just because he wasn't getting what he wanted, especially since he was quickly accepted into ThunderClan as soon as he joined them anyway, so his motivation makes no sense whatsoever. And it's great that the books are trying to tackle serious topics, it's just a weird choice that it was done specifically with Twigbranch and Finleap. It'd be one thing if he'd actually been having a hard time fitting in and maybe made a comment or two about wanting to have kits someday, maybe have him play with the ones in the nursery or something, and then he tries to talk Twigbranch into having a litter of their own, but none of this happens. And sure, his character still would've been ruined, but it'd at least have actual build-up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 22:03:47 GMT -5
That sounds like a good idea, or at least just that scene, I still hate what they did to Finleap, and for basically no reason, like, nothing was gained or changed at all from this. Yeah when you think about it there really was no reason for them to have him act like that to Twig when literally every book before and after TRS he treats her with so much devotion and respect it's just such a literal definition of character whiplash it's ridiculous so I basically went "yeah frick that". And seeing folks say they "saw it coming" doesn't really help either, it feels as if it's trying to make those that didn't think it was "obvious" feel stupid or something, and I felt that way and was hesitant to ship FinTwig for a long time because of that. It wasn't obvious at all, ffs. It was drama for the sake of drama and nothing more, there was literally no "tells" that I can read. If I wrote a couple that was like FinTwig (As I love their dynamic in those couple books) outside TRS I can't help but wonder if they would assume the same bad would happen at this point.Yeah, it wasn't obvious for me either, but I can understand why people might have seen it coming, because of Fin's impulsive nature? Or something, idk. I just hate what they did to Finleap, he was this really nice, caring guy, who wasn't all battle hungry and buff and crap like most of the other male love interests. He actually had a unique personality, and he could swim! And now, they're trying to make him this nice and devoted guy again, but they already ruined him.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Oct 26, 2020 0:46:45 GMT -5
I like the ship, but the way he behaved in The Raging Storm really made me have a Raging Storm. It made me sad to see him act like this. I really like Finleap, but the way he acted in that book...
(And LOL when I was typing I typed Finelap instead of Finleap)
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 26, 2020 1:11:59 GMT -5
I want to clarify a bit. I suppose the reason why I saw it coming was because of Finleap's behavior at such a young age. His father became overprotective of him after he lost his tail, and he himself felt like he wasn't as "valuable" as he was before. But Twig was the one that gave him what he wanted, that value. So when she decided to leave, he followed, it was a very impulsive decision though. Think of it like two teens running away thinking the grass is greener on the other side. After they get to ThunderClan, Twig is rightfully so scolded for her fickle behavior and coming back the way she did. On the other hand, Fin was fawned over, no one really corrected him, and he obviously glorified TC from what he was saying. Fast forward and you have him trying to be a "know it all" to Twig, and also him bringing up the idea of being mates and having kits. When Twig on the other hand wants to focus on her career. When Finleap doesn't understand the issue from his perspective it just gets worse until he decides that he wanted to force Twig into choosing. Because he thinks that if he doesn't have a family and kits with Twig in TC then he's no value there and that he wouldn't really feel at home. But because of this, he's also ignoring how she personally felt and what she wanted, only caring about his own feelings. Just like when he ran away from home, leaving his kin behind without a second thought. He left his own home behind for a girl and then wanted to gaslight her because she didn't give him a new family. So to me it was obvious, before and after. And I'm not just saying this to make anyone "feel stupid or something", it's just from my personal perspective while reading the books, that Finleap was impulsive and made all the wrong choices for the wrong reasons. He was never reprimanded for his choices either, just fawned over and praised, and never experienced whiplash until Twig stood up to him. Honestly she was too good for him anyways, but them staying together doesn't bother me, because I don't care for the pairing. However, I think they could be a good example of a kitless couple if the Erins continue to write them how they're doing in the current arc. Ah, and I almost forgot, when it comes to the original question, I do think that yes the ship is overrated. Because, like ThunderClan, a lot of fans apparently got swept up by Finleap's character, and his relationship with Twig. But I noticed a lot of people see him as being ruined, or thinking it came out of no where, which is fine. But I think the problem is more when that immature aspect of his character is completely ignored and glossed over. I don't think Finleap is perfect, that much is obvious, but he has changed for the better in the recent books at least, and realized he should be more aware of other people's feelings and not just his own.
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Oct 27, 2020 8:57:49 GMT -5
This ship is just kinda :/
I don't hate it but I don't love it either.
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Oct 27, 2020 8:59:44 GMT -5
Yeah when you think about it there really was no reason for them to have him act like that to Twig when literally every book before and after TRS he treats her with so much devotion and respect it's just such a literal definition of character whiplash it's ridiculous so I basically went "yeah frick that". And seeing folks say they "saw it coming" doesn't really help either, it feels as if it's trying to make those that didn't think it was "obvious" feel stupid or something, and I felt that way and was hesitant to ship FinTwig for a long time because of that. It wasn't obvious at all, ffs. It was drama for the sake of drama and nothing more, there was literally no "tells" that I can read. If I wrote a couple that was like FinTwig (As I love their dynamic in those couple books) outside TRS I can't help but wonder if they would assume the same bad would happen at this point.Yeah, it wasn't obvious for me either, but I can understand why people might have seen it coming, because of Fin's impulsive nature? Or something, idk. I just hate what they did to Finleap, he was this really nice, caring guy, who wasn't all battle hungry and buff and crap like most of the other male love interests. He actually had a unique personality, and he could swim! And now, they're trying to make him this nice and devoted guy again, but they already ruined him. Why Erins whyyyyyyyyyy
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