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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:28:33 GMT -5
i love seeing how bad starclan is, post your favorite “worst starclan moments”
mine is how bluestar was on the council judging leafpool for her halfclan med cat relationship when bluestar was actively mates in starclan with oakheart
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 1, 2020 0:33:17 GMT -5
The trial and Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jul 1, 2020 0:35:33 GMT -5
Like every time it appears after the first arc.
But seriously, Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight about being barren comes to mind, as well as Spottedleaf giving Leafpool the dumb, vague “follow your heart” advice, the whole Squirrelflight’s Hope judging thing, letting Ashfur in, giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, dividing and generally acting awful in The Last Hope before Jayfeather reunited them, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:36:18 GMT -5
The trial and Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight. i thought people were being metaphorical when they said ashfur lied his way into starclan, like somehow the forces of the universe just were decieved when they processed him. but no, he literally lied his way into starclan. actually kind of iconic tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:37:11 GMT -5
Like every time it appears after the first arc. But seriously, Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight about being barren comes to mind, as well as Spottedleaf giving Leafpool the dumb, vague “follow your heart” advice, the whole Squirrelflight’s Hope judging thing, letting Ashfur in, giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, dividing and generally acting awful in The Last Hope before Jayfeather reunited them, etc. > gives 8 lives to sunstar because pinestar is still alive > refuses to give lives to nightstar because the baby killer is still alive ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:37:51 GMT -5
also starclan encouraging leafpools relationship with crowfeather and then putting her on trial for it in sqh and nobody brings up that they let this happen and even encouraged parts of it
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jul 1, 2020 0:40:00 GMT -5
Like every time it appears after the first arc. But seriously, Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight about being barren comes to mind, as well as Spottedleaf giving Leafpool the dumb, vague “follow your heart” advice, the whole Squirrelflight’s Hope judging thing, letting Ashfur in, giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, dividing and generally acting awful in The Last Hope before Jayfeather reunited them, etc. > gives 8 lives to sunstar because pinestar is still alive > refuses to give lives to nightstar because the baby killer is still alive ok. Yep, this
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 1, 2020 0:40:48 GMT -5
also starclan encouraging leafpools relationship with crowfeather and then putting her on trial for it in sqh and nobody brings up that they let this happen and even encouraged parts of it lol i wonder how it'd go if spottedleaf's spirit was still around...she'd have explaining to do
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:41:27 GMT -5
also starclan encouraging leafpools relationship with crowfeather and then putting her on trial for it in sqh and nobody brings up that they let this happen and even encouraged parts of it lol i wonder how it'd go if spottedleaf's spirit was still around...she'd have explaining to do spottedleaf pulled the ultimate power play and died on purpose to avoid having to explain herself
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 0:42:22 GMT -5
> gives 8 lives to sunstar because pinestar is still alive > refuses to give lives to nightstar because the baby killer is still alive ok. Yep, this also if anybody wants to argue that it was different because pinestar willingly stepped down and thus was no longer rightful leader, id argue being chased out of your camp and being rejected by nearly your entire clan and living like a rogue qualifies for losing your place as rightful leader lol
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 1, 2020 0:54:09 GMT -5
lol i wonder how it'd go if spottedleaf's spirit was still around...she'd have explaining to do spottedleaf pulled the ultimate power play and died on purpose to avoid having to explain herself probably also to avoid firestar because she knew he'd not go to her like she always wanted lol im sorry but dunking on spottedleaf is my fave warriors hobby!
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 1, 2020 1:07:10 GMT -5
giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, came here to say exactly this. i'd like to add: --making tigerclaw leader of shadowclan (they knew he was an absolutely bloodthirsty murderer bent on revenge and power. "well we hope he makes the clan strong" are you serious) --telling pinestar to murder his only surviving kit
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 1, 2020 1:17:51 GMT -5
Like every time it appears after the first arc. But seriously, Yellowfang lying to Squirrelflight about being barren comes to mind, as well as Spottedleaf giving Leafpool the dumb, vague “follow your heart” advice, the whole Squirrelflight’s Hope judging thing, letting Ashfur in, giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, dividing and generally acting awful in The Last Hope before Jayfeather reunited them, etc. > gives 8 lives to sunstar because pinestar is still alive > refuses to give lives to nightstar because the baby killer is still alive ok. To be fair, Pinestar stepped down willingly while Brokenstar was driven out. But either way, it's pretty stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 1:21:40 GMT -5
> gives 8 lives to sunstar because pinestar is still alive > refuses to give lives to nightstar because the baby killer is still alive ok. To be fair, Pinestar stepped down willingly while Brokenstar was driven out. But either way, it's pretty stupid. i mentioned it above, but i feel as though being rejected by your clan should disqualify you from rightful leadership, thus putting him in a similar situation to pinestar. total bs however you view it, tho
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 1, 2020 1:38:44 GMT -5
To be fair, Pinestar stepped down willingly while Brokenstar was driven out. But either way, it's pretty stupid. i mentioned it above, but i feel as though being rejected by your clan should disqualify you from rightful leadership, thus putting him in a similar situation to pinesrar. total bs however you view it, tho Oh no, I definitely agree, I just think it's important to keep the circumstances in mind. Really, you'd think that StarClan would've rejected Tigerclaw after all he'd done. Brokenstar too, actually.
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Post by chimken nugget on Jul 1, 2020 5:05:30 GMT -5
- accepting ashfur instead of banishing him to the dark forest forever - every time spottedleaf’s spirit showed up to give firestar advice or tell him the future or talk to him because she was bored or stalk him for his entire lifetime -when they basically forced squirrelflight to adopt the Three and then did nothing as she subsequently suffered and lost her mate and kits because of them - the whole leafpool situation - every time they give some vague confusing prophecy that ends up killing someone when they literally have the power to fix that - the whole tigerstar situation - actually, any time they give a leader nine lives without checking first whether they deserve it - the thing where squirrelflight and tigerstar 2 died but they weren’t actually dead but they were dead but then they came back to life ??? - starclan cats always wanting to punish everyone for things they unashamedly did themselves - everyone assuming cats magically become wiser and better the second they die, and believing starclan cats are the ones to go to for advice just because they died once and occasionally drop hints about the plot of the next book
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Post by chimken nugget on Jul 1, 2020 5:07:39 GMT -5
giving lives to tyrants like Brokenstar but can’t give any to cats like Nightstar because “Brokenstar’s still alive” or some stupidity like that, came here to say exactly this. i'd like to add: --making tigerclaw leader of shadowclan (they knew he was an absolutely bloodthirsty murderer bent on revenge and power. "well we hope he makes the clan strong" are you serious) --telling pinestar to murder his only surviving kit since they’re clearly able to kill cats themselves, why not just hit tigerkit with some lightning if they really cared that much?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 6:15:37 GMT -5
came here to say exactly this. i'd like to add: --making tigerclaw leader of shadowclan (they knew he was an absolutely bloodthirsty murderer bent on revenge and power. "well we hope he makes the clan strong" are you serious) --telling pinestar to murder his only surviving kit since they’re clearly able to kill cats themselves, why not just hit tigerkit with some lightning if they really cared that much? that would be too useful though and starclan has a policy against being useful lmao
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Post by wolfcry32 on Jul 1, 2020 8:56:41 GMT -5
Yeah...basically them knowing the Three waa going to come, knowing Leafpool's path was going to lead there anyway, giving vague messages about 'following her heart', lying to Squirrelflight in order to get her to care for the Three, putting them both on trial to be judged by cats who had done the same thing and also blantantly ignoring the manipulation they used to get the two sisters in the situation in the first place.
Also them allowing evil cats to live, since it's super unclear whether or not they have the power to interfere with the living (but recently it seems they do despite claiming they don't in the past), on the grounds of punishing the clans. Especially in the case of Brokenstar- why punish the cats who literally have no idea SkyClan existed? Just admit you're useless and go.
Or like Tigerstar. They saw him kill Redtail, try to kill Bluestar, get exiled, kill Runningwind and still allowed him to receive nine lives? Not to mention they allowed a false sign to sway ShadowClan and honored it anyway? Then they let him kill Brindleface unprovoked and try to destroy ThundrrClan using dogs? Nah...it doesn't add up. I'm convinced StarClan are actually evil.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 1, 2020 10:20:02 GMT -5
Letting Ashfur in was bad enough, but explaining with this half-assed excuse? That's even worse.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 1, 2020 10:40:14 GMT -5
The god damn trial. Letting Ashfur in. Telling Pinestar to KILL A KIT instead of reinstating Doestar's thing about raising him right instead. They were blatantly asking him to break the God Damn code by harming a kit.
THE TRIAL.
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Post by gig on Jul 1, 2020 12:06:55 GMT -5
I think it’s harder picking times when StarClan was at its best post-TPB
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Post by platinum blond death on Jul 1, 2020 12:36:20 GMT -5
- Existing /s - That stupid trial - Ordering Pinestar to kill his own kit - Yellowfang and Squirrelflight - Spottedleaf
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 1, 2020 13:41:04 GMT -5
came here to say exactly this. i'd like to add: --making tigerclaw leader of shadowclan (they knew he was an absolutely bloodthirsty murderer bent on revenge and power. "well we hope he makes the clan strong" are you serious) --telling pinestar to murder his only surviving kit since they’re clearly able to kill cats themselves, why not just hit tigerkit with some lightning if they really cared that much? starclan: pine you gotta nuke this kit now 'cause he will be the worst person ever also starclan: oh hey tigger whaddup want 8 free lives??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 14:02:20 GMT -5
What everyone has said above. Also, letting the guy who had the intention of wiping out a whole clan in.
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Post by icefurs on Jul 1, 2020 18:47:58 GMT -5
I liked the idea that Tigerstar got 9 Lives in order to suffer to pay for what he's done, but Brokenstar getting lives just makes no sense to me especially now that StarClan is so involved with everything.
But like y'all said, everything dealing with Squirrel n Leaf + StarClan is annoying beyond belief.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 19:34:59 GMT -5
I've come to feel like the reason ShadowClan didn't let Nightstar have any lives was because they... actually didn't think Brokenstar was that bad. And that he still deserved to be leader. As horrible as that sounds. Like I can totally see Raggedstar just shrugging and saying "well at least he drove out WindClan and got all that territory, man I would have loved to have that and I mean sucks for ThunderClan but we did in fact need their kits. And we technically were stronger by getting rid of all of our weakest members..." Even though he was killed by him. Just sounds like something he would say.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 1, 2020 19:50:25 GMT -5
Everyone is talking about a trial. Can someone tell me where the scene is from so I can read it? Squirrelflight's Hope.
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