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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 15:31:40 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on this guy?
Honestly, despite him giving into Nobrainflower's wishes about changing Stormkit's name, and almost drowning poor Reedfeather to death, I actually really like him. He's a great guy, RiverClan was the best they ever were when he was in power, and his name is really cool. Not to mention, he's responsible for one of the most beautiful names in the series: Petaldust. Another thing that's great about Hailstar, is that he doesn't like seeing any of his clanmates suffer, he noticed that Fallowtail was depressed, so he went and started a battle with WindClan to help her get her kits back. Instead of exiling her, or making her feel like a terrible cat for breaking the code, he takes pity on her and helps her, which shows that Hailstar has great compassion. He's probably my favorite RiverClan leader.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 15:43:04 GMT -5
i really like him. he's a good cat but i get the feeling that he's a bit socially awkward judging by his scenes. he's also very prideful and more on the gruff and short-tempered side, he's fun to read about. you can really get a feel of him in his section of battles of the clans. fallowtail is suffering terribly after giving up her kits, and hailstar sees this and wants to make things right. at the same time, it really bothers him to admit that he was wrong about giving them up and he shows essentially no mercy to the windclan cats, save for keeping their guards alive. just this prideful, serious guy who puts his own clan before everything. he's neat. That's a great way to look at him, 'A prideful serious guy who puts his own clan before everything.' Those are the best types of leaders IMO. You can't have a push over who puts every clan above their own, or a selfish leader who puts themselves above the clans.
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Post by Owl on Jun 30, 2020 15:49:18 GMT -5
i really like him. he's a good cat but i get the feeling that he's a bit socially awkward judging by his scenes. he's also very prideful and more on the gruff and short-tempered side, he's fun to read about. you can really get a feel of him in his section of battles of the clans. fallowtail is suffering terribly after giving up her kits, and hailstar sees this and wants to make things right. at the same time, it really bothers him to admit that he was wrong about giving them up and he shows essentially no mercy to the windclan cats, save for keeping their guards alive. just this prideful, serious guy who puts his own clan before everything. he's neat. That's a great way to look at him, 'A prideful serious guy who puts his own clan before everything.' Those are the best types of leaders IMO. You can't have a push over who puts every clan above their own, or a selfish leader who puts themselves above the clans. he's not a perfect cat, but he's a great leader and i think he does a good job. i think tigerheartstar could actually mellow out and become comparable to hailstar as time goes on. i find tigerstar a bit too intense to directly compare right now, but he has time to change gradually as he ages.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 16:02:38 GMT -5
That's a great way to look at him, 'A prideful serious guy who puts his own clan before everything.' Those are the best types of leaders IMO. You can't have a push over who puts every clan above their own, or a selfish leader who puts themselves above the clans. he's not a perfect cat, but he's a great leader and i think he does a good job. i think tigerheartstar could actually mellow out and become comparable to hailstar as time goes on. i find tigerstar a bit too intense to directly compare right now, but he has time to change gradually as he ages. I was actually thinking about making a comparison to Tigerheartstar lol or Cedarstar, but while Cedarstar was a great guy towards his own clan, he went overboard with being a jerk to WindClan.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 30, 2020 17:42:02 GMT -5
He seemed like a decent leader. Owl posted my general thoughts on him. My only gripe with him is going through with renaming Stormkit to Crookedkit. I'm surprised he just...agreed? And it didn't even look like he consulted Shellheart (his deputy) on the matter? Otherwise I think he's a rather good leader.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 30, 2020 22:42:05 GMT -5
Love him.
... ... Is it bad that I cheered when he tried to drown Reedfeather? o.o'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:46:17 GMT -5
Love him. ... ... Is it bad that I cheered when he tried to drown Reedfeather? o.o'I don't share the same thoughts, but I don't think it's bad, to each their own lol. I'll admit that Reedfeather was kind of a jerk though, however, I do give him points for being one of the cats (Tallstar and Hawkheart were the others) to believe in Hopkit/Deadfoot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:47:45 GMT -5
i like him well enough. im kept from loving him by him buckling to assflowers demands to publicly traumatize her son tho.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:48:49 GMT -5
i like him well enough. im kept from loving him by him buckling to assflowers demands to publicly traumatize her son tho. Assflower XD That's understandable, I took away points from him for that too.
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Post by blueberryy on Jul 1, 2020 4:13:59 GMT -5
Strong dislike. As a leader, he should take more responsibility for the wellbeing of his clan over pleasing an openly abusive mother. He had the ability to say no to Rainflower twice, but he didn't, despite knowing fully well how cruel that name was. The way he chose to execute this wonderful decision was to publicly humiliate a young child on what was suposedly to be one of best days of his life.
When he finally had the chance to prove he actually had a little backbone and use his position fairly, he chose to assign Shellheart as Oakpaw's mentor upon Rainflower's request, despite this being against the rules.
There's other instances of him being easy to influence, such as organising a battle patrol to regain control over Sunningrocks after heavy demand from his clanmates, despite it being winter and having little to no use for hunting nor sunbathing. Even in terms of personality he was very unmemorable to me.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jul 1, 2020 10:25:02 GMT -5
Neutral. He's pretty cool, but I wish he didn't give into Rainflower's demands (and almost drown Reedfeather, that was scary) but all in all, he's not bad. (Also neutral because I don't remember him that much)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 10:34:23 GMT -5
blueberryyWow, you're right, I didn't think about some of those points, I think the main reason I like his leadership so much, was because it was during the time where RiverClan was at their most likeable IMO.
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Post by kells on Jul 1, 2020 18:29:34 GMT -5
A flawed, but good leader. It shows that he doesn't just take heed to his own advice, and listens to the opinions of his Clan, which you don't see much in other leaders. The thing with the whole Crookedkit thing seemed to me that, although he was leader, he didn't feel like he was in the place to challenge or refuse Rainflower's for her own son.
It's also worthy of noting that he synpathized with Crookedkit at the ceremony, and I think even offered to have it changed later on? I might be wrong on that one.
And honestly, the fight with WindClan is what made me hold a lot of respect for him. The way he challenged with no means of backing down if it meant losing suchandsuch's kits was pretty damn cool when I read it for the first time. I've seen many other headstrong leaders but they all sucked ass in some way or another (like Raggedstar). It was something that came off as really righteous.
Aannnd then he nearly killed Reedfeather which was hella out line, but I can forgive him for being caught in the frenzy of battle or some shit. The narrative did make it seem like he was out of it iirc-- idk, I haven't read the book in years.
But yeah, he's top in my list of favorite leaders. Just an overall cool and refreshing leader
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 18:31:15 GMT -5
A flawed, but good leader. It shows that he doesn't just take heed to his own advice, and listens to the opinions of his Clan, which you don't see much in other leaders. The thing with the whole Crookedkit thing seemed to me that, although he was leader, he didn't feel like he was in the place to challenge or refuse Rainflower's for her own son. It's also worthy of noting that he synpathized with Crookedkit at the ceremony, and I think even offered to have it changed later on? I might be wrong on that one. And honestly, the fight with WindClan is what made me hold a lot of respect for him. The way he challenged with no means of backing down if it meant losing suchandsuch's kits was pretty damn cool when I read it for the first time. I've seen many other headstrong leaders but they all sucked ass in some way or another (like Raggedstar). It was something that came off as really righteous. Aannnd then he nearly killed Reedfeather which was hella out line, but I can forgive him for being caught in the frenzy of battle or some shit. The narrative did make it seem like he was out of it iirc-- idk, I haven't read the book in years. But yeah, he's top in my list of favorite leaders. Just an overall cool and refreshing leader This is a well worded post with a lot of great points and I agree completely.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 1, 2020 20:35:27 GMT -5
Yeah honestly when it comes to the Crooked name thing, I don't think he could do much in that situation. It was a disagreement between a couple, and the one that named him was most likely his mother, to begin with. And he obviously didn't approve and sympathized with Crooked.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 1, 2020 20:59:54 GMT -5
Yeah honestly when it comes to the Crooked name thing, I don't think he could do much in that situation. It was a disagreement between a couple, and the one that named him was most likely his mother, to begin with. And he obviously didn't approve and sympathized with Crooked. Plus, at least at the end of the day Hailstar still gave him a cool Warrior Ceremony despite his prefix. I wonder if, if not for Rainflower, he'd be down with giving his old Storm- name back.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jul 2, 2020 10:32:54 GMT -5
He's an okay character. What's stopping me from liking him is that he gave in to Rainflower's request to change Crookedstar's name.
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