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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 3:22:42 GMT -5
I think you're really doing your best here! You're doing great work! It's good to consider all the angles. Hey thanks!! That's so sweet. If you want to come up with your own theory I'd absolutely love to hear it!
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Post by Basement Cat on Apr 20, 2020 3:27:52 GMT -5
I think you're really doing your best here! You're doing great work! It's good to consider all the angles. Hey thanks!! That's so sweet. If you want to come up with your own theory I'd absolutely love to hear it! I'm pretty sure it's Puddleshine. When Spiresight is heading to see who's going to kill Shadowsight, he spots a tom with white spots. I think he sees Puddleshine on his way to hop into Bramblestar's body and use him to carry out his wicked, wicked plans. Puddleshine has always been manipulating his apprentice, knowing how malleable he is. When he saw an opportunity to isolate and kill Shadowsight, he took it. He "came back" for Squirrelflight because he is in love with her after hearing Leafpool talk about her when she mentored him. It all makes sense, because Ashfur hasn't been shown to be able to possess Bramblestar, but maybe a living cat could.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 3:40:01 GMT -5
Hey thanks!! That's so sweet. If you want to come up with your own theory I'd absolutely love to hear it! I'm pretty sure it's Puddleshine. When Spiresight is heading to see who's going to kill Shadowsight, he spots a tom with white spots. I think he sees Puddleshine on his way to hop into Bramblestar's body and use him to carry out his wicked, wicked plans. Puddleshine has always been manipulating his apprentice, knowing how malleable he is. When he saw an opportunity to isolate and kill Shadowsight, he took it. He "came back" for Squirrelflight because he is in love with her after hearing Leafpool talk about her when she mentored him. It all makes sense, because Ashfur hasn't been shown to be able to possess Bramblestar, but maybe a living cat could. DUDE that's awesome! I'd love to draw fanart for that one day! We don't usually see evil medicine cats in the series, so that is super creative! This is absolutely my favorite theory so far. Excellent job!
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 20, 2020 3:53:27 GMT -5
No, no. See, Ashfur really is the imposter, but the one behind all of this? Clearly it has to be Mousefur. She was one of the cats who was concerned about ThunderClan becoming too mixed to the point of calling a Clan meeting over it. This disdain for outsiders and codebreakers never really went away, and now she's taken the opportunity to strike. It's perfect!
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What is that melody..?
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 3:54:44 GMT -5
No, no. See, Ashfur really is the imposter, but the one behind all of this? Clearly it has to be Mousefur. She was one of the cats who was concerned about ThunderClan becoming too mixed to the point of calling a Clan meeting over it. This disdain for outsiders and codebreakers never really went away, and now she's taken the opportunity to strike. It's perfect! Now that's just being mean
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 20, 2020 4:11:34 GMT -5
tfw you try to be as nice as possible and ppl still make fun of you Oh god, I am so sorry! I genuinely thought this was a joke thread and I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 4:13:05 GMT -5
tfw you try to be as nice as possible and ppl still make fun of you Oh god, I am so sorry! I genuinely thought this was a joke thread and I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Hey man it's ok
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 20, 2020 5:27:31 GMT -5
No, no. See, Ashfur really is the imposter, but the one behind all of this? Clearly it has to be Mousefur. She was one of the cats who was concerned about ThunderClan becoming too mixed to the point of calling a Clan meeting over it. This disdain for outsiders and codebreakers never really went away, and now she's taken the opportunity to strike. It's perfect! Now that's just being mean I'm confused. What's mean about it? It looks like... most of the other posts in this thread to me. "I think X cat is the imposter because xyz reasons support it."
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Apr 20, 2020 11:38:54 GMT -5
I can't see Mothwing having anything against all the clans.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 13:56:51 GMT -5
Now that's just being mean I'm confused. What's mean about it? It looks like... most of the other posts in this thread to me. "I think X cat is the imposter because xyz reasons support it." I know you have an account on fourtrees but I'll still reply to you. It's because mousefur has literally nothing to do with any of the plot and mothflight was innocently joking thinking this was a joke thread. They're perfectly fine I can see why they would think this post isn't serious lol. But yeah I'm trying to look for creative theories when I made this thread.
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Post by dawnshadow on Apr 20, 2020 15:57:46 GMT -5
While your theory is interesting, I do think Mothwing is too nice, and I don't really see why she would have herself exiled and then refuse to come back when Mstystar offered her a place, unless eh truly felt that bad that Icewing and Harelight were exiled. But if she's capable of feeling that bad, then I don't think would have it in her to make a move against the clans like this. I also realize that you could turn this into her throwing the scent off her trail, but that's a lot of work to hide your involvement by voluntarily living on ShadowClan territory, after we saw her voice her discontentment (I think) when Bristlefrost was in the exile camp.
Also, it is mentioned specifically that the imposter has dark blue eyes, and I searched on warriors wiki to confirm my suspicion and only three cats are noted to have dark blue eyes: Cinderheart, Ivypool, and Ashfur. So that leads me to believe that it has to be Ashfur because Fake Bramblestar has been seen interacting with Cinderheart and Ivypool both. So it seems unlikely that it could. be Mothwing, but I do enjoy your enthusiasm.
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 20, 2020 16:07:06 GMT -5
I'm confused. What's mean about it? It looks like... most of the other posts in this thread to me. "I think X cat is the imposter because xyz reasons support it." I know you have an account on fourtrees but I'll still reply to you. It's because mousefur has literally nothing to do with any of the plot and mothflight was innocently joking thinking this was a joke thread. They're perfectly fine I can see why they would think this post isn't serious lol. But yeah I'm trying to look for creative theories when I made this thread. Mousefur is no more ridiculous an idea than Mothwing. I don't think it's acting in good faith to be making a troll post with a ridiculous idea, trying to bait people into getting flustered in their responses, claiming it's "mean" when others respond in the exact same tone you've used, and then bringing up an unrelated Warriors Discord server as if that somehow makes a person less able to give a relevant response to something in the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 16:13:26 GMT -5
Let's not start bickering.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 16:36:11 GMT -5
Let's not start bickering. yeah you're right just gonna block
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Post by Aku on Apr 20, 2020 16:36:47 GMT -5
I know you have an account on fourtrees but I'll still reply to you. It's because mousefur has literally nothing to do with any of the plot and mothflight was innocently joking thinking this was a joke thread. They're perfectly fine I can see why they would think this post isn't serious lol. But yeah I'm trying to look for creative theories when I made this thread. Mousefur is no more ridiculous an idea than Mothwing. I don't think it's acting in good faith to be making a troll post with a ridiculous idea, trying to bait people into getting flustered in their responses, claiming it's "mean" when others respond in the exact same tone you've used, and then bringing up an unrelated Warriors Discord server as if that somehow makes a person less able to give a relevant response to something in the thread. Just because something may come off as ridiculous to you doesn't make it automatically a troll post. But the discord server is relevant because members on that server do have a history of trying to troll the forums so they can have some gossip to discuss in the warrior fandoms channel. It's kind of bad to give you all fuel to the flames, Duplex.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 17:13:37 GMT -5
While this would be super cool, I think Mothwing is too empathetic and kind to be able to pull this off. If Tawnypelt were treated like Mothwing in her Clan, I could see it better, just because of their personality differences. However, I could see Mothwing trying to get revenge on Mistystar, but trying to destroy all the Clans, and possessing Bramblestar, who has gotten along pretty well with Mothwing in the past? It just doesn't make sense to me. But in an AU where you switch some things up this could totally work!! Yeah you're right it's a tad stretched haha. I just really want there to be an evil medicine cat somewhere along the lines in the books, ya know? Tawnypelt would be super interesting actually!
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 20, 2020 17:30:17 GMT -5
Mousefur is no more ridiculous an idea than Mothwing. I don't think it's acting in good faith to be making a troll post with a ridiculous idea, trying to bait people into getting flustered in their responses, claiming it's "mean" when others respond in the exact same tone you've used, and then bringing up an unrelated Warriors Discord server as if that somehow makes a person less able to give a relevant response to something in the thread. Just because something may come off as ridiculous to you doesn't make it automatically a troll post. But the discord server is relevant because members on that server do have a history of trying to troll the forums so they can have some gossip to discuss in the warrior fandoms channel. It's kind of bad to give you all fuel to the flames, Duplex. Well, none of this has been brought up on that server at all, because like I said, I was just responding to what I saw in this thread. I didn't think it was particularly fair to propose one theory ("the imposter is Mothwing"), then claim that another theory pitched just the same ("the imposter is Mousefur") is mocking the first one. It smells like bait to me—an attempt to get people in trouble. OP was awfully quick at dropping their excessively-friendly tone and switching gears to say Mothflight had wronged them.
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Post by Aku on Apr 20, 2020 17:39:28 GMT -5
Just because something may come off as ridiculous to you doesn't make it automatically a troll post. But the discord server is relevant because members on that server do have a history of trying to troll the forums so they can have some gossip to discuss in the warrior fandoms channel. It's kind of bad to give you all fuel to the flames, Duplex. Well, none of this has been brought up on that server at all, because like I said, I was just responding to what I saw in this thread. I didn't think it was particularly fair to propose one theory ("the imposter is Mothwing"), then claim that another theory pitched just the same ("the imposter is Mousefur") is mocking the first one. It smells like bait to me—an attempt to get people in trouble. OP was awfully quick at dropping their excessively-friendly tone and switching gears to say Mothflight had wronged them. OP seemed quick to drop the friendly act because others were mocking her theory. That can be a bit disheartening, yes? But, regardless, there's nothing wrong with someone being friendly. I think this might be derailing OPs original discussion, though. Might be best if we agree to disagree on here? I don't want Delune's topic to be locked as it is pretty interesting.
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 20, 2020 17:42:25 GMT -5
Fernstep get out of my thread you're not welcome. Thanks! He's free to reply in the thread if he wishes if it's related to the topic, and that includes debates. If you post a really out there theory (And it is, I still get vibes this is a joke thread, since it being Ashfur is so obvious and Hawkfrost as an option was nuked the moment HE was nuked as is) on a public forum, expect to get responses that are less than savory to you if folks disagree with them.
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Post by Crysolis on Apr 20, 2020 17:52:53 GMT -5
Fernstep get out of my thread you're not welcome. Thanks! He's free to reply in the thread if he wishes if it's related to the topic, and that includes debates. If you post a really out there theory (And it is, I still get vibes this is a joke thread, since it being Ashfur is so obvious and Hawkfrost as an option was nuked the moment HE was nuked as is) on a public forum, expect to get responses that are less than savory to you if folks disagree with them. I'll just bring this to DM's
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 20, 2020 17:59:41 GMT -5
If someone is uncomfortable with someone, then they should have the right to ask them to leave.
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Post by mimikyutie on Apr 20, 2020 18:12:27 GMT -5
While this would be super cool, I think Mothwing is too empathetic and kind to be able to pull this off. If Tawnypelt were treated like Mothwing in her Clan, I could see it better, just because of their personality differences. However, I could see Mothwing trying to get revenge on Mistystar, but trying to destroy all the Clans, and possessing Bramblestar, who has gotten along pretty well with Mothwing in the past? It just doesn't make sense to me. But in an AU where you switch some things up this could totally work!! Yeah you're right it's a tad stretched haha. I just really want there to be an evil medicine cat somewhere along the lines in the books, ya know? Tawnypelt would be super interesting actually! As neat as an evil medicine cat would be, I'd rather they didn't screw up an awesome cat like Mothwing.
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 20, 2020 18:26:48 GMT -5
If someone is uncomfortable with someone, then they should have the right to ask them to leave. It's a public forum and no one's said anything offensive or potentially triggering. You wouldn't ask someone to leave an "opinions on Dovewing" thread for disagreeing with you on Dovewing; there isn't a right to demand that someone leave a public discussion.
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Post by Sand on Apr 20, 2020 18:52:51 GMT -5
Fernstep - If you have been asked to leave, I believe out respect for the member, you should leave the thread. We don't need more drama and tension than we already have. Also, it is up to the member to determine what is offensive or potentially triggering to them, not to you. We don't know what can trigger another person, but we surely know our own triggers. In theory, yes, you could ask someone to leave a thread for disagreeing on a character like Dovewing. It's up to the OP to make that decision. You can ask a member to not post on your threads or reply to you, just like you can block them on the forum too. I'm tired of the animosity. I'd highly encourage that everyone drop it and move on, or I can make a decision to do something that I really don't want to do. Unfortunately, we've reached the point where I am more than considering it thanks to the snark, rude and childish behavior of members in Warriors General. Please reread the Forum Rules, all of you.
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Post by ❄️Frøstflåmë🔥 on Apr 20, 2020 21:37:56 GMT -5
I really can't believe that it's Mothwing! She seemed like such a nice cat. But why could she join Starclan if she didn't believe in it?
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