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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:08:40 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the events of the book. First...the leaders I LOVED Tigerstar in this book, I've always really liked him, but he just shone in this book. I loved how he was like, "When are you going to finally start listening to my son?" Also, when he told Icewing and Harelight that they would have a home in ShadowClan. It was funny how Needleclaw was like, "Who is that, and what has he done with Tigerstar?" Or something like that..it reminds me of someone wondering what happened to Blackstar, when he invited them to share prey after the Beaver Trip lol.
From the spoilers, I thought I wasn't going to like Harestar anymore, but it's understandable why he did what he did, and after he lost a life, he finally came to his senses. I thought the scene between him and Crowfeather, after he returned to his body, was super sweet.
Leafstar was awesome in this book, I love how she pretended to be on the side of the impostor, but then, she turned to her clan, and told them to attack them (the impostors) I thought that was really cool.
Mistystar...um no. Next...the some other stuff They got Dappletuft's gender wrong. It was disgusting and sad, that Mistystar chose to bury him like a rogue, and his family wasn't even able to hold vigil for him. Then, his sister Softpelt died, and his brother, Harelight got exiled. Poor Lakeheart, Lizardtail, and Gorseclaw.
I felt really bad for Flipclaw, being forced to be a medicine cat, just because of a random dream he had. I was shocked at how Alderheart stood up to the impostor, and I loved it. It seems like some of Jayfeather has rubbed off on him.
Speaking of Jayfeather, Crowfeather was pretty annoying in this book, like in all books. He thought he was sooo much better than Squirrelflight and Cloverfoot, and he just needs to go away.
Speaking of Cloverfoot, I'm really surprised Scorchfur and Snowbird didn't appear AT ALL in this book, maybe they'll play a big role in the next one, especially considering the fact that two of their kits died.
Speaking of their kits, why was Conefoot suddenly a hardcore resistance fighter? He wasn't at the meetings was he? What about Whorlpelt and Blazefire? Also, Sneezecloud and Smokehaze?
I'm glad that Shellfur FINALLY got a scene...but wth? He protected Bramblestar against Conefoot, Dappletuft, Spotfur, STEMLEAF, and Kitescratch, resulting in the death of Conefoot, Dappletuft, and STEMLEAF.
I know it might be hard to believe, considering the scenes they've had together, and now much Stemleaf has mentioned them, but Shellfur and Stemleaf are BROTHERS.
Though, I highly doubt the editors remember that, considering Shellfur may have possibly helped kill Stemleaf, and he said NOTHING about his death.
How many times everyone said "Greetings" could be turned into a drinking game, it was more repetitive than Hollyleaf and the Warrior Code. The Deaths WHY WHY WHY did they have to kill my favorite SkyClan cat, Sandynose, and my favorite ShadowClan cat, Strikestone?
Also, why the heck did they kill off pretty much all the new warriors, like Softpelt, Dappletuft, Conefoot, Stemleaf, Smokehaze, Strikestone, etc?
Sure they killed off some older ones like Rosepetal, Berrynose, and Sandynose.
But what about cats who have been around for quite awhile, like Lionblaze, Crowfeather, Ivypool, etc? I'm not saying I want any of those cats to die, but I don't like the fact, that they killed off cats who had just recently got their warrior names. More Other Stuff I really liked the fact, that they remembered about Brightheart helping out Cinderpelt back in the day. Now, if only they could remember that they were sisters.
I wonder what happened to Flywhisker and Cherryfall? I don't think they've been mentioned at all in this series yet. Speaking of Flywhisker, Snaptooth was one of the ones who went to go defend the impostor, against his sister, Spotfur. Dewnose and Sorrelstripe were also there. Sorrelstripe seems like she was one of the more loyal to the impostor cats, earlier in the book, the impostor asked her if she had something to report, or something like that.
Speaking of Sorrelstripe, Baypaw and Myrtlepaw didn't appear AT ALL, neither did Flamepaw, but his own family ditched him in ThunderClan, so there's that. The Impostor I know in the past, that I said I didn't think it was Ashfur. However, I'm kind of convinced now. First, I was a little sold on the idea, when he was described to have DARK blue eyes, I don't recall any other toms having DARK blue eyes, other than Ashfur. However, dark could also mean the mood of them, you know? And not the color.
However, what sealed the deal, was the fact that Squirrelflight knows who he is, if it was some cat from long ago, like Goosefeather or Snowkit, then she wouldn't know of them, because they died before she ever met them. So yeah, I believe that the impostor is Ashfur. That's all I have to say for now, I'll post more as I think of more. I'm not sure what to think of this book, it wasn't the best, and it wasn't the worst.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 4, 2020 12:15:09 GMT -5
Why kill the main characters when we can just kill the interesting background characters all off at once?
Teach us to like anyone but the mains
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Post by Fireleap on Apr 4, 2020 12:16:38 GMT -5
THEY KILLED SOFTPELT? AND SMOKEHAZE? AND STRIKESTONE?!?!?!
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 4, 2020 12:17:30 GMT -5
THEY KILLED SOFTPELT? AND SMOKEHAZE? AND STRIKESTONE?!?!?! Yep. And their deaths were mentioned only in one sentence and that was it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:18:41 GMT -5
Why kill the main characters when we can just kill the interesting background characters all off at once?
Teach us to like anyone but the mains Right? I hardly LIKE any of the main characters. They're basically all the same.
All angsty over the romance and the dealings of the plot.
Heck, Bristlefrost is just like a combination of Ivypool and Dovewing.
No offence to anyone who likes her.
I mean, I don't exactly dislike the main characters, but I just find some of the background characters more interesting and likeable.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:20:35 GMT -5
THEY KILLED SOFTPELT? AND SMOKEHAZE? AND STRIKESTONE?!?!?! Yep! I'm SO irritated. They didn't put Strikestone through ENOUGH? Not only did they kill pretty much ALL of his family, turn his sister into a monster, and deafen him in one ear, but they also gave him as off-hand mention after he died.
I'm SO pissed that Crowfrost's family line won't be continuing.
To make matters even worse, the cats who died, seem to be stuck as ghosts, so Strikestone can't even be reunited with his parents and brother in StarClan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:38:13 GMT -5
Also Frecklewish was SUPER awesome in this book, she's my second favorite current medicine cat after Puddleshine, even though she has a dumb name.
I really liked Mothwing here too, I love how she refused to go back to RiverClan, even after Mistystar told her she could come back.
Also, Jayfeather wasn't actually bad in this book
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Post by dragonfruit on Apr 4, 2020 12:56:06 GMT -5
Also Also, Jayfeather wasn't actually bad in this book
I've always liked him, but Jayfeather has been getting some great lines in the recent books.
Also, on a side note, how did Stemleaf die? I've always enjoyed his character and it's a shame lot's of decent minor characters are being killed off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:59:16 GMT -5
Also Also, Jayfeather wasn't actually bad in this book
I've always liked him, but Jayfeather has been getting some great lines in the recent books.
Also, on a side note, how did Stemleaf die? I've always enjoyed his character and it's a shame lot's of decent minor characters are being killed off.
Stemleaf, Dappletuft, Conefoot, Spotfur, and Kitescratch decided to try and assassinate the impostor, and Bristlefrost ran to go get Berrynose, to help the impostor, because she promised Squirrelflight, that she'd keep Bramblestar's body alive. Then, Berrynose, Dewnose, Sorrelstripe, Snaptooth, and apparently Shellfur, came in with Berrynose, and I guess they all fought, and Conefoot, Dappletuft, and Stemleaf wound up dead.
I don't remember Shellfur being one of the ones to go to defend the impostor, but afterwards, he was having his paw treated, and he mentioned he hurt it defending Bramblestar
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Post by finland on Apr 4, 2020 13:01:20 GMT -5
I am in denial about Strikestone dying. Please say sike. He can't be dead. I really liked him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 13:07:28 GMT -5
I am in denial about Strikestone dying. Please say sike. He can't be dead. I really liked him. Me too! I am so upset. He was my favorite current ShadowClan cat. Maybe in the next book, they'll forget they killed him, and replace him with a cat no one cares about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 13:22:11 GMT -5
I really hope That Strikestone, Sleekwhisker, and Juniperclaw weren't the ONLY kits of Dawnpelt and Crowfrost. Remember how Dawnpelt was expecting a litter of kits in Bramblestar's Storm? Well, those kits would have been older than Fernsong and his sisters, and Sleekwhisker and her brothers are around the same as as Alderheart and Sparkpelt, who are about 8 or 9 moons, I think, younger than Fernsong and his sisters. I think that if they did have another litter, it was Wasptail and Stonewing, Wasptail is a yellow tabby with green eyes, JUST like Sleekwhisker, she and Stonewing were also made warriors at the same time.
If Stonewing is their son, then at least their legacy can live on through him.
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Post by finland on Apr 4, 2020 13:29:29 GMT -5
I am in denial about Strikestone dying. Please say sike. He can't be dead. I really liked him. Me too! I am so upset. He was my favorite current ShadowClan cat. Maybe in the next book, they'll forget they killed him, and replace him with a cat no one cares about.
How did he die?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 13:37:29 GMT -5
Me too! I am so upset. He was my favorite current ShadowClan cat. Maybe in the next book, they'll forget they killed him, and replace him with a cat no one cares about.
How did he die? In the battle between ThunderClan/WindClan/RiverClan and ShadowClan/SkyClan. They don't even mention him fighting in the battle, just when he was being carried away, and having a vigil held for him He was only mentioned once before earlier in the book, when he accompanied Tawnypelt to go talk to Leafstar I think? I don't remember, I don't think he had a speaking role though Here's his death part
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 13:53:32 GMT -5
Okay so I just re-read the scene, and I saw where Shellfur was helping out The Impostor fight off the cats who tried to attack him, along with Leafshade.
It said
"Moments later Berrynose was back with Dewnose, Sorrelstripe, and Snaptooth hard on his paws. "Lead the way!" Berrynose snapped at Bristlefrost. As Bristlefrost pelted through the forest, screeches and snarls of battle grew louder in her ears. As she burst out into the open, she saw that Shellfur and Leafshade had appeared,and were fighting shoulder to shoulder with Bramblestar."
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Post by halogen on Apr 4, 2020 13:57:32 GMT -5
Are Bristlefrost and Squirrelflight going to feel really bad about being kind of responsible for the deaths of Stemleaf et al., then? I would hate it if after all that Squirrelflight gets real Bramblestar back like she wanted, and all that had to happen was three cats getting killed ot make sure of it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 13:59:35 GMT -5
Are Bristlefrost and Squirrelflight going to feel really bad about being kind of responsible for the deaths of Stemleaf et al., then? I would hate it if after all that Squirrelflight gets real Bramblestar back like she wanted, and all that had to happen was three cats getting killed ot make sure of it! I don't remember Squirrelflight saying anything about it, and Bristlefrost was more worried about everyone thinking she was a traitor, and loyal to The Impostor, and then Squirrelflight defended her.
Spotfur was really sad though, and angry, and Rootspring saw Stemleaf's ghost sitting close to Spotfur.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 14:02:07 GMT -5
Who was your favorite pov in this book? Probably Shadowsight's Though, I think I liked what was going on in Bristlefrost's POV the best. Rootspring's POV was pretty interesting too. I just like Shadowsight's the best lol
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Post by dragonfruit on Apr 4, 2020 14:08:28 GMT -5
"Moments later Berrynose was back with Dewnose, Sorrelstripe, and Snaptooth hard on his paws. "Lead the way!" Berrynose snapped at Bristlefrost.
This scene is just a painful reminder of how they ruined Berrynose urghh. Also, Strikestone deserved better, alongside Stemleaf
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 14:10:13 GMT -5
"Moments later Berrynose was back with Dewnose, Sorrelstripe, and Snaptooth hard on his paws. "Lead the way!" Berrynose snapped at Bristlefrost.
This scene is just a painful reminder of how they ruined Berrynose urghh. Also, Strikestone deserved better, alongside Stemleaf and Berrynose
Agreed I think they ALL deserved better.
I still can't believe that Stemleaf's own brother helped to kill him, and Spotfur's littermate brother and older sister also helped out The Impostor.
I'm disappointed that Dewnose was in that group too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 15:24:55 GMT -5
I'm surprised That Breezepelt and Nightcloud spoke up on behalf of Crowfeather, I'm glad his relationship with them is still going strong.
However, I'm also surprised that Heathertail didn't, she's Breezepelt's mate, and also Crowfeather's former apprentice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 15:28:58 GMT -5
Another surprising thing Is the fact that Birchfall has gotten NO mention.
If the Impostor is Ashfur, then I would have imagined that his nephew/former apprentice, would have a more prominent role?
Especially considering he's Bristlefrost's grandfather.
Then again, Ivypool and Fernsong only got one scene, so, it's not that surprising.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 4, 2020 16:53:09 GMT -5
Another surprising thing Is the fact that Birchfall has gotten NO mention.
If the Impostor is Ashfur, then I would have imagined that his nephew/former apprentice, would have a more prominent role?
Especially considering he's Bristlefrost's grandfather.
Then again, Ivypool and Fernsong only got one scene, so, it's not that surprising.
I don't think it's surprising. Keep in mind that all of the elders right now, with the exception of Greystripe, were apprentices with Ashfur. Yet he's being terrible to them.
How he treated Brightheart was disgusting. And it's weird, because as an apprentice, he was friends with Thornclaw, Brightheart, Swiftpaw, and Cloudtail (his foster brother).
On the plus side, it was interesting to see how Ivypool so badly wanted to leave TC but stopped because she wanted to support her kits.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 16:56:25 GMT -5
Another surprising thing Is the fact that Birchfall has gotten NO mention.
If the Impostor is Ashfur, then I would have imagined that his nephew/former apprentice, would have a more prominent role?
Especially considering he's Bristlefrost's grandfather.
Then again, Ivypool and Fernsong only got one scene, so, it's not that surprising.
I don't think it's surprising. Keep in mind that all of the elders right now, with the exception of Greystripe, were apprentices with Ashfur. Yet he's being terrible to them.
How he treated Brightheart was disgusting. And it's weird, because as an apprentice, he was friends with Thornclaw, Brightheart, Swiftpaw, and Cloudtail (his foster brother).
On the plus side, it was interesting to see how Ivypool so badly wanted to leave TC but stopped because she wanted to support her kits. Yeah true. I can't believe how terrible he was to Stormcloud, just because he was trying to bring Brackenfur food. Then he punished poor Finchpaw, just because she was in the vicinity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 21:26:25 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed in Shellfur, Snaptooth, and Sorrelstripe.
I understand that they were defending who they believed to be their clan leader (because they're idiots I guess) but they were fighting against their OWN siblings. Shellfur helped kill his only brother.
Dewnose, Leafshade, and Berrynose are super disappointing too, but not as disappointing as the other three.
I'm mega disappointed in Shellfur, in his debut appearance, he's kind of an antagonist..man I really love his design, and his name is HILARIOUS, I was hoping, if he ever got attention, it'd be positive.
Dewnose I guess doesn't care about how cruel the impostor is being to his ELDERLY PARENTS.
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Post by embertuft on Apr 4, 2020 22:13:27 GMT -5
nooooo!! Poor Lakeheart and Lizardtail. Two of their kits have died, and their third one exiled. Even though they’ve never really been relevant.. damn. And Dappletuft not getting being allowed a vigil.. that’s really really grim.
Shellfur and Stemleaf... just wth??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 22:18:37 GMT -5
nooooo!! Poor Lakeheart and Lizardtail. Two of their kits have died, and their third one exiled. Even though they’ve never really been relevant.. damn. And Dappletuft not getting being allowed a vigil.. that’s really really grim.
Shellfur and Stemleaf... just wth?? They still have Gorseclaw. But Lakeheart might be dead, she wasn't in the allegiances, so it could now just be Lizardtail and Gorseclaw.
I KNOW! Also, Blossomfall left, and just left Thornclaw, Plumstone, Eaglewing, and Shellfur behind.
Also, Flamepaw got left behind by his WHOLE family. And he never gets a mention in the book at all.
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Post by embertuft on Apr 4, 2020 22:31:30 GMT -5
nooooo!! Poor Lakeheart and Lizardtail. Two of their kits have died, and their third one exiled. Even though they’ve never really been relevant.. damn. And Dappletuft not getting being allowed a vigil.. that’s really really grim.
Shellfur and Stemleaf... just wth?? They still have Gorseclaw. But Lakeheart might be dead, she wasn't in the allegiances, so it could now just be Lizardtail and Gorseclaw.
I KNOW! Also, Blossomfall left, and just left Thornclaw, Plumstone, Eaglewing, and Shellfur behind.
Also, Flamepaw got left behind by his WHOLE family. And he never gets a mention in the book at all. So literally Blossomfall just went and literally left her mate and kits behind to go with her exiled father. I mean fair enough, but like, still. Its such a shame because as cardboard personality and unknown Lakeheart + Lizardtail and their kits are, they didn’t deserve that. This book will have me in shreds when I read it, I swear. And Strikestone is dead, too - which is just freaking great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 22:39:06 GMT -5
They still have Gorseclaw. But Lakeheart might be dead, she wasn't in the allegiances, so it could now just be Lizardtail and Gorseclaw.
I KNOW! Also, Blossomfall left, and just left Thornclaw, Plumstone, Eaglewing, and Shellfur behind.
Also, Flamepaw got left behind by his WHOLE family. And he never gets a mention in the book at all. So literally Blossomfall just went and literally left her mate and kits behind to go with her exiled father. I mean fair enough, but like, still. Its such a shame because as cardboard personality and unknown Lakeheart + Lizardtail and their kits are, they didn’t deserve that. This book will have me in shreds when I read it, I swear. And Strikestone is dead, too - which is just freaking great. RIGHT? Kill off Crowfrost's last remaining kit, why don't they? I REALLY hope that Stonewing is his.
Lizardtail did have a small part in AVOS.
Maybe Thornclaw, Plumstone, and Eaglewing will end up joining Blossomfall. Shellfur can stay behind.
I also hope Flamepaw joins his family.
Oh, Thriftear also left with them.
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