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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 6, 2020 3:43:39 GMT -5
My entire state is in sheer panic. School closures, face mask shortages, test kit shortages. Daily emails from my university going "Don't panic, guys. But also, maybe panic a little bit". Actual declared State of Emergency. Starbucks refusing to use reusable cups (I know that sounds silly, but it's actually a huge freaking deal to a lot of people here). Not having even spoken to my mother in three weeks because she's in charge of infection control at a major hospital, and they're having her work weekends now. Math class shifted to online work submission so we don't "spread germs through paper".
I wasn't panicking over the pandemic before, since I didn't think it would really affect my life (it's a slightly heavier-hitting cold virus, for crying out loud). But Covid is actually starting to SIGNIFICANTLY interfere with my day to day living, and I'm not a fan.
Anyway, how are y'all out in the non-Washington/California US holding up? And for those in other countries getting hit, or those in Washington and California, what's the most amusing official action you've seen taken? Right now I'm still going with Starbucks refusing reusable cups.
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Post by aether on Mar 6, 2020 4:08:42 GMT -5
all my local supermarkets are out of toilet paper and i genuinely need to buy some soon :/
note: i'm in australia
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Post by Aspenwing on Mar 6, 2020 4:28:36 GMT -5
all my local supermarkets are out of toilet paper and i genuinely need to buy some soon :/
note: i'm in australia
fellow aussie here, i relate so hard i'm down to my last few rolls and can't find any i've been to so many different shops and nothing tried ordering some from woolies online as they said they had some but we'll see i work in a grocery store and i have work tomorrow, and i have a feeling it's going to be utter chaos...
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Post by aether on Mar 6, 2020 4:37:38 GMT -5
fellow aussie here, i relate so hard i'm down to my last few rolls and can't find any i've been to so many different shops and nothing tried ordering some from woolies online as they said they had some but we'll see i work in a grocery store and i have work tomorrow, and i have a feeling it's going to be utter chaos... it's the most random thing too. i don't think people realise that toilet paper we buy is mostly made in australia. we aren't gonna have a shortage unless people keep hoarding it xD
i work in a hardware store and we REALLY quickly ran out of respirator masks, too. they sold like hotcakes. and we were already having a shortage after the bushfires and smoke!
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Post by Aspenwing on Mar 6, 2020 5:02:56 GMT -5
fellow aussie here, i relate so hard i'm down to my last few rolls and can't find any i've been to so many different shops and nothing tried ordering some from woolies online as they said they had some but we'll see i work in a grocery store and i have work tomorrow, and i have a feeling it's going to be utter chaos... it's the most random thing too. i don't think people realise that toilet paper we buy is mostly made in australia. we aren't gonna have a shortage unless people keep hoarding it xD
i work in a hardware store and we REALLY quickly ran out of respirator masks, too. they sold like hotcakes. and we were already having a shortage after the bushfires and smoke!
ikr like please chill who needs 150 toilet rolls honestly haha holy crappp, it has not been a fun past few months for australia, i do placement in a vet clinic and we're almost out of surgical masks too... all on back order
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Post by Sour Candy on Mar 6, 2020 5:16:41 GMT -5
Fellow Washingtonian here. My college campus got closed today due to a possible case. On one hand it's ridiculous people are going bonkers over a virus where literally the only difference between it and the flu is that it comes from China. But, of course, being a person with a severe anxiety disorder, I've been panicking regardless. At least my immune system is more or less at the ready cause I had the actual flu about a month ago.
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Post by Mosspath27 on Mar 6, 2020 9:19:22 GMT -5
Well, it's also got a mortality rate 20-30 times higher what the seasonal flu has. Most people are fine, seems even a lot of people who catch it don't even get symptoms, but it's killing people who already had cardiovascular issues, and especially older people.
Most of us here shouldn't have anything to worry about, but there's a good reason to try to keep students from taking it home to their grandparents.
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Post by Gold on Mar 6, 2020 9:27:08 GMT -5
Yes; given that it’s just as infectious as the flu but without a vaccine to help immunize people and keep it contained coming in the near future, measures such as the ones listed here in this thread are very well justified to limit its spread.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 11:15:18 GMT -5
I'm in Eastern Idaho and have family in Northern Idaho, Washington and a brother in Texas on a service deal.
I don't see the reason for all the fuss? Like if you aren't old or have a comprised immune system you should be okay? Although my younger two brothers both have weird immune systems and respiratory issues. Hand soap and hand sanitizer is flying off the shelf, we've used hand sanitizer for years because of my younger brothers and needed to get a few new bottles but couldn't find a big bottle anywhere. We got a couple smaller ones at the dollar store but they were already wiped out because some lady bought 90 bottles. I've heard from people in various states about people trying to get important medication but not being able to because it's been wiped out.
My brother got a heads up from his higher ups to get a couple weeks worth of food in case he gets confined since there are now a couple cases in the major city in his area. If it spreads and he gets put on lock down I wouldn't be surprised to see him come home.
My aunt and grandfather in Northern Idaho are grabbing their everyday essentials since they are flying off the shelves and my uncle is special needs. But everyone up there is freaking out even though nobody has it, the University is freaking, a nearby school didn't have classes for a day because they were doing a total deep clean of the school because of the vIrUs.
Overall I think everyone needs to be cautious but also chill out a little? Like half the deaths in the US were because it got into a old folks home in Seattle.
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 6, 2020 12:37:54 GMT -5
Im in kansas
People havent noticed and dont care.
I literally overheard a woman say she was GLAD it was hitting california because "its getting rid of the godless people"
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Post by Sand on Mar 6, 2020 14:37:34 GMT -5
Im in kansas People havent noticed and dont care. I literally overheard a woman say she was GLAD it was hitting california because "its getting rid of the godless people" That lady must be my grandpa in a different body. He was happy people were getting it in California but that’s where my sister lives. I was ready to go off at him but ://
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 6, 2020 16:43:44 GMT -5
Yes; given that it’s just as infectious as the flu but without a vaccine to help immunize people and keep it contained coming in the near future, measures such as the ones listed here in this thread are very well justified to limit its spread. My problem isn't with the actual measures that the state is enforcing, like the State of Emergency (which gives the hospitals extra funding and staff), canceling large scale events, closing school if there is actually a confirmed case. My problem and my head shaking comes in when the general populace starts to assume it's going to be an apocalypse, and starts causing more problems that aren't even related to the illness. As others have mentioned, it's difficult to get basic supplies like toilet paper and medication (I'd like to add canned food to that list, personally). There's no reason for that when there are fewer than 200 cases of this in our entire country. You also have companies and schools putting stupid policies into effect that don't do anything. For example, if reusable cups actually had the potential to spread illness, Starbucks shouldn't be using them in the first place. If my university is still going to hold in-person classes, why are we not allowed to turn in things on paper? You know, the stupid stuff. The stupid stuff is what's getting to me.
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 6, 2020 22:30:02 GMT -5
Its apparently hit Pennsylvania, though pretty far from me. Hopefully it stays away, but I dont hold out much hope cause people dont wash their damn hands.
Here's to hoping, stay safe everybody <3
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Post by vakarian on Mar 6, 2020 22:47:41 GMT -5
oh yeet, i go to school in sarasota lel. i heard about the cases. wash yo hands and wear a mask if ya got one!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 23:31:05 GMT -5
it's all over my state but I don't think it's hit my county yet. can't wait until it does so I can catch the virus and finally ascend this plane
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Post by Gold on Mar 7, 2020 0:41:56 GMT -5
This is a very popular topic on OTD it seems.
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Post by Mosspath27 on Mar 7, 2020 0:47:19 GMT -5
Of course it is, potentially imminent danger is a vastly more exciting topic than another set of daily doldrums or rigged elections.
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Post by Turin not Torino on Mar 7, 2020 1:17:58 GMT -5
I came in to work tonight to signs taped everywhere that say, "Coronavirus is now in Kentucky... please be respectful and use hand sanitizer before touching anything". It's like great, freak out all the guests on a sold out night.
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Post by Sand on Mar 7, 2020 2:03:05 GMT -5
It hasn’t reached my state yet but I’m sure it will soon. I traveled today through three airports and saw some people wearing masks. If I remember correctly, the masks don’t help with COVID-19 right?
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Post by The Noble Dragon on Mar 7, 2020 2:13:14 GMT -5
I was told by someone that the COVID-19 is airborne so the masks don't really help as you can get the virus through your eyes. Idk how accurate that is bc I never checked up on it. So just wear a bubble suit and gas mask and ur good
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 7, 2020 10:46:46 GMT -5
Masks don’t do squat, unless you’re already sick and then it keeps you from coughing/sneezing on everyone. It is by far and wide transmitted by the hands; the virus can survive 9 days on a non-living surface last i heard, so all it takes is for people to touch something infected and then touch all over your face.
Don’t buy masks, its creating a shortage for people who actually need it. Washing your hands frequently is key.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 7, 2020 11:36:42 GMT -5
I would like to put this forward: The death rate, rate of infection, hospitalization, etc is all skewed. Why? Because it’s based solely on reported cases. How are some of these people who have never been anywhere near the infected areas or people getting it, unless some people get it without realizing it?
The fact is that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of cases that aren’t confirmed/diagnosed because some people are asymptomatic. Either they never show symptoms or they’re so mild, it’s dismissed as a common cold. And while the first reaction to this might be fear, consider this: this means that the death and hospitalization rates are actually MUCH lower than reported.
Yeah, it travels scary quick. And it’s worrisome for the old and immunocompromised. But for the vast majority of people it’s like any other flu.
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 7, 2020 13:16:06 GMT -5
I would like to put this forward: The death rate, rate of infection, hospitalization, etc is all skewed. Why? Because it’s based solely on reported cases. How are some of these people who have never been anywhere near the infected areas or people getting it, unless some people get it without realizing it? The fact is that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of cases that aren’t confirmed/diagnosed because some people are asymptomatic. Either they never show symptoms or they’re so mild, it’s dismissed as a common cold. And while the first reaction to this might be fear, consider this: this means that the death and hospitalization rates are actually MUCH lower than reported. Yeah, it travels scary quick. And it’s worrisome for the old and immunocompromised. But for the vast majority of people it’s like any other flu. There's also the weird fact that even as a carrier and having symptoms the tests aren't perfect and still have a chance to come back negative.
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Post by ✶Jaysong✶ on Mar 7, 2020 14:34:38 GMT -5
I know how you feel I live in Pennsylvania, but I'm an anxiety basket, so I was concerned about it way before it got into my state. Yesterday we just learned about two "presumed" cases in East Pennsylvania, and there are cases in almost every state where the rest of my family lives. My sister has been sending me a bunch of updates and statistic articles that puts it into perspective. Since my parents are on the older side, we haven't really been going out, if anything just to err on the side of caution. But yes, it's definitely interfering with everyday life, which is really starting to irritate. My mom didn't even want to order things from Amazon until this all blows over, but I'm pretty sure scientists have said the virus couldn't survive on a box or package in shipment without the right conditions. Anywhoo, this article put it into perspective for me a bit, helped my anxiety: Stats
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Post by Card against Humanity on Mar 7, 2020 15:15:23 GMT -5
it hasn't even hit where i live yet. it's only hit BC, Quebec, and Ontario so far. I'm not super happy with the way the canadian government is handling the situation but the way certain other countries have been ""handling"" it is making us look competent in comparison if what I've been reading is true lol
also my dad's freaking out over it/preparing for a potential quarantine and started yelling at me a couple of weeks ago when I said he was being a bit ott over it. like obviously its serious and people should be worried but it's not the next bubonic plague jfc.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 7, 2020 16:22:06 GMT -5
vakarian , The Noble Dragon , SandFace masks in general, for any illness (especially droplet illness like cold, flu, and Covid) DON'T protect you from other people, they protect other people from you. It catches all your germs as you breathe them out, but if someone coughs in your face while you're wearing one, their germs can still get under the mask. You are a little bit protected, but hospitals in my state at least are facing a SEVERE face mask shortage for people who actually need them, including both ill patients and hospital staff that are required to wear them to care for non-Covid patients. So please, guys. Don't buy face masks unless you're actually having cold-like symptoms. Then wear one. But not until then, because other people need them. Also, just want to say that there is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is airborne. The evidence points to droplets, just like for previous coronaviruses and the seasonal flu. So wash your hands, don't touch your face, and wipe down surfaces before you use them. (For anyone who's curious, the difference between airborne and droplet is that airborne viruses are light enough to be suspended in air for multiple hours before settling, and droplet viruses just shoot six feet out of your mouth and then immediately fall down onto whatever surface is below them. Covid is just really panicky right now, so the CDC is recommending airborne precautions for medical staff)
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Post by falconfire on Mar 7, 2020 16:52:39 GMT -5
when it comes to preparation it does kind of seem like it's best to prepare not necessarily for a scary outbreak but for potential policies that will be put in place to try and manage it. like, don't fly out of the country on spring break if you can't afford to miss work or school in the event of a quarantine sort of deal.
i don't know, i think it's a challenging thing. i don't think people should go about "business as usual" but it's also unhelpful to panic so we gotta find a middle ground.
because yes it does hit the older population and immunocompromised people especially hard. while it's possible a younger healthy person might get through it just fine, even being asymptomatic, they might pass it onto others who aren't so lucky... like, both my parents are pretty old. my sister lives out of town but she's on immune suppressants for a different condition. it's fair to be concerned. and to reiterate some points people have brought up, it might just be like a flu or even just a cold for some people, but there's a lot we don't know about it, including prevention besides "wash your hands" so it's threatening in that respect.
(Also i think people blow off the flu like "it's not that bad" but tbh even for a healthy person the flu can be awful. like have you bedridden with chills and aches for a week, that's not fun at all lmao)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 17:29:51 GMT -5
The biggest thing that makes me nervous is my dad, for work he travels across several states, stays in hotels, eats out and interacts with lots of other. If anyone I know is going to get it, it'll be him. His health isn't the greatest either and his personal hygiene is kinda... minimal
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