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Mar 1, 2020 22:59:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 22:59:33 GMT -5
During the Dark Forest battle, one of the Dark Forest cats started fighting on the side of StarClan? Do you think they'd get a re-trail and maybe make their way into StarClan?
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 1, 2020 23:08:55 GMT -5
While possible, I'm guessing they were put in the Dark Forest for a reason, so I doubt it'd happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 23:11:21 GMT -5
While possible, I'm guessing they were put in the Dark Forest for a reason, so I doubt it'd happen. Well, yeah, but if they redeemed themselves. Some cats' crimes weren't even THAT bad compared to the crimes of other cats in The Dark Forest. Like Stumpytail for example...what did he even do? Some I can understand not getting redeemed, like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar, but others, I think they could get a second chance.
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 1, 2020 23:19:07 GMT -5
While possible, I'm guessing they were put in the Dark Forest for a reason, so I doubt it'd happen. Well, yeah, but if they redeemed themselves. Some cats' crimes weren't even THAT bad compared to the crimes of other cats in The Dark Forest. Like Stumpytail for example...what did he even do? Some I can understand not getting redeemed, like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar, but others, I think they could get a second chance. Fair enough tbh. Though, I think a Place of No Stars cat who redeemed themselves and got into StarClan after the Great Battle would be pretty neat.
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Mar 1, 2020 23:22:54 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 23:22:54 GMT -5
Well, yeah, but if they redeemed themselves. Some cats' crimes weren't even THAT bad compared to the crimes of other cats in The Dark Forest. Like Stumpytail for example...what did he even do? Some I can understand not getting redeemed, like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar, but others, I think they could get a second chance. Fair enough tbh. Though, I think a Place of No Stars cat who redeemed themselves and got into StarClan after the Great Battle would be pretty neat. It'd also be cool, if cats from StarClan, could get sent to the Dark Forest if they're bad. Though, some shouldn't be in there in the first place.
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Mar 2, 2020 12:42:31 GMT -5
Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 2, 2020 12:42:31 GMT -5
The idea of it seems cool, but I doubt it would have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 12:48:02 GMT -5
The idea of it seems cool, but I doubt it would have happened. Thanks ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Yeah, same, but it is fun to think about, especially now since you know they do trials.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 2, 2020 13:37:14 GMT -5
I like the idea that some cats who were sent to the dark forest for lesser crimes have the chance to be redeemed or have a chance of heart and then be permitted into StarClan.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:44:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 13:44:27 GMT -5
I like the idea that some cats who were sent to the dark forest for lesser crimes have the chance to be redeemed or have a chance of heart and then be permitted into StarClan. Me too ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar can rot in there, but Stumpytail, and I'm not sure if these cats are in the Dark Forest, but I saw somewhere that they were, and I thought it was totally confusing...Deerfoot, Yellowfang's mom (I forgot her name), Lilywhisker, and Blizzardwing, should have the chance to redeem themselves. I would say Hawkfrost too, because his crimes were no worse than Ashfur's, but after he went to the DF, he turned fully bad, he killed Hollyleaf and recruited cats to fight against the clans.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 2, 2020 13:53:28 GMT -5
I like the idea that some cats who were sent to the dark forest for lesser crimes have the chance to be redeemed or have a chance of heart and then be permitted into StarClan. Me too ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar can rot in there, but Stumpytail, and I'm not sure if these cats are in the Dark Forest, but I saw somewhere that they were, and I thought it was totally confusing...Deerfoot, Yellowfang's mom (I forgot her name), Lilywhisker, and Blizzardwing, should have the chance to redeem themselves. I would say Hawkfrost too, because his crimes were no worse than Ashfur's, but after he went to the DF, he turned fully bad, he killed Hollyleaf and recruited cats to fight against the clans. I dont think Hawkfrost would ever have a chance because even if he didnt do much, his heart was still rotten. Ashfur should've been rotting there too tbh ^^; Those other cats, while we dont know what they did to deserve going there, I'd like to know their stories. Another cool idea is Appledusk going to the DF for his part in Mapleshade's creation, but he gets the chance to make up for his mistakes since he wasn't evil.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:56:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 13:56:33 GMT -5
Me too ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Like Tigerclaw and Brokenstar can rot in there, but Stumpytail, and I'm not sure if these cats are in the Dark Forest, but I saw somewhere that they were, and I thought it was totally confusing...Deerfoot, Yellowfang's mom (I forgot her name), Lilywhisker, and Blizzardwing, should have the chance to redeem themselves. I would say Hawkfrost too, because his crimes were no worse than Ashfur's, but after he went to the DF, he turned fully bad, he killed Hollyleaf and recruited cats to fight against the clans. I dont think Hawkfrost would ever have a chance because even if he didnt do much, his heart was still rotten. Ashfur should've been rotting there too tbh ^^; Those other cats, while we dont know what they did to deserve going there, I'd like to know their stories. Another cool idea is Appledusk going to the DF for his part in Mapleshade's creation, but he gets the chance to make up for his mistakes since he wasn't evil. I really don't think Appledusk deserves to go to the Dark Forest, he cheated, and that was super bad, but I just can't ignore the sacrifice he made for Reedshine, their three unborn kits, and Perchpaw.
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Mar 2, 2020 14:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 2, 2020 14:01:41 GMT -5
I dont think Hawkfrost would ever have a chance because even if he didnt do much, his heart was still rotten. Ashfur should've been rotting there too tbh ^^; Those other cats, while we dont know what they did to deserve going there, I'd like to know their stories. Another cool idea is Appledusk going to the DF for his part in Mapleshade's creation, but he gets the chance to make up for his mistakes since he wasn't evil. I really don't think Appledusk deserves to go to the Dark Forest, he cheated, and that was super bad, but I just can't ignore the sacrifice he made for Reedshine, their three unborn kits, and Perchpaw. That is a good point, maybe his sacrifice would be enough to forgive his disloyalty. Still, I hope he at least got a chewing out when he got to StarClan lol it would make me feel as though Leafpool and Squirrelflight's trial would be fair. If Appledusk, Ashfur, Yellowfang, and all the other major codebreakers had a trial and had the risk of going to the dark forest, it would feel more justified with Leafpool and Squirrelflight having to go through it.
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Mar 2, 2020 14:05:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 14:05:42 GMT -5
I really don't think Appledusk deserves to go to the Dark Forest, he cheated, and that was super bad, but I just can't ignore the sacrifice he made for Reedshine, their three unborn kits, and Perchpaw. That is a good point, maybe his sacrifice would be enough to forgive his disloyalty. Still, I hope he at least got a chewing out when he got to StarClan lol it would make me feel as though Leafpool and Squirrelflight's trial would be fair. If Appledusk, Ashfur, Yellowfang, and all the other major codebreakers had a trial and had the risk of going to the dark forest, it would feel more justified with Leafpool and Squirrelflight having to go through it. Yeah, true...speaking of that, has there even been a major leader who hasn't broken the code?
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Mar 3, 2020 10:53:35 GMT -5
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 3, 2020 10:53:35 GMT -5
That is a good point, maybe his sacrifice would be enough to forgive his disloyalty. Still, I hope he at least got a chewing out when he got to StarClan lol it would make me feel as though Leafpool and Squirrelflight's trial would be fair. If Appledusk, Ashfur, Yellowfang, and all the other major codebreakers had a trial and had the risk of going to the dark forest, it would feel more justified with Leafpool and Squirrelflight having to go through it. Yeah, true...speaking of that, has there even been a major leader who hasn't broken the code? I dont think Mistystar has, but shes the only one I can think of.
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Mar 3, 2020 12:56:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 12:56:01 GMT -5
Yeah, true...speaking of that, has there even been a major leader who hasn't broken the code? I dont think Mistystar has, but shes the only one I can think of. Yeah, Mistystar's been great, the only thing I can find to fault her for, is almost letting Reedwhisker, her own son, die. Bluestar had half-clan kits, and made Brackenfur and Cinderpelt apprentices before they were six moons old Tallstar made Owlwhisker an apprentice before he was six moons old, and took away deputy position from a perfectly capable guy, who never seriously broke the code. What did Crookedstar do to break the rules?
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Mar 3, 2020 13:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 3, 2020 13:28:49 GMT -5
I dont think Mistystar has, but shes the only one I can think of. Yeah, Mistystar's been great, the only thing I can find to fault her for, is almost letting Reedwhisker, her own son, die. Bluestar had half-clan kits, and made Brackenfur and Cinderpelt apprentices before they were six moons old Tallstar made Owlwhisker an apprentice before he was six moons old, and took away deputy position from a perfectly capable guy, who never seriously broke the code. What did Crookedstar do to break the rules? Well that wasn't really her fault. If you mean when he and his littermates almost drowned as kits, that was an unfortunate accident. Sometimes things happen that's out of your control. Tallstar also abandoned his clan, even if he did end up returning. I'm sure that counts as code breaking. Crookedstar did train in the Dark Forest. Of course he was tricked and manipulated since kithood, so I dont think that would count, in which case I think hes pretty clean. Hes a good boi. Blackstar, Leopardstar, and Onestar are all major code breakers too.
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Mar 3, 2020 13:43:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 13:43:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Mistystar's been great, the only thing I can find to fault her for, is almost letting Reedwhisker, her own son, die. Bluestar had half-clan kits, and made Brackenfur and Cinderpelt apprentices before they were six moons old Tallstar made Owlwhisker an apprentice before he was six moons old, and took away deputy position from a perfectly capable guy, who never seriously broke the code. What did Crookedstar do to break the rules? Well that wasn't really her fault. If you mean when he and his littermates almost drowned as kits, that was an unfortunate accident. Sometimes things happen that's out of your control. Tallstar also abandoned his clan, even if he did end up returning. I'm sure that counts as code breaking. Crookedstar did train in the Dark Forest. Of course he was tricked and manipulated since kithood, so I dont think that would count, in which case I think hes pretty clean. Hes a good boi. Blackstar, Leopardstar, and Onestar are all major code breakers too. No, I meant in Mistystar's Omen, when she found out that Mothwing didn't believe in StarClan. Oh yeah, also, Tallstar brutally beat up his own clanmate, and almost KILLED him, his sole purpose of leaving WindClan, was to try and kill a guy.
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Mar 4, 2020 12:00:42 GMT -5
Post by Cheetahstar on Mar 4, 2020 12:00:42 GMT -5
I wanted a thistleclaw redemotion arc to show us why soem cats may actually side with the df
but then spottedleafs heart happened
I still like the idea but thats only ignoring that book
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Mar 4, 2020 12:05:30 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 12:05:30 GMT -5
I wanted a thistleclaw redemotion arc to show us why soem cats may actually side with the df but then spottedleafs heart happened I still like the idea but thats only ignoring that book That book was so annoying, like, Thistleclaw was already bad enough without that, maybe he wasn't Dark Forest worthy bad, but they really shouldn't have made him a creep. Though, I don't think he actually liked her, I think he knew she had a crush on him, and was manipulating her, which is still HORRIBLE. Him training in the DF alone, like willingly training there, and not being manipulated, could have been a good enough reason, cats have gone to the DF for less. If Thistleclaw went to the DF for being a creep, I wonder if Snowbird will go?
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Mar 4, 2020 14:24:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 14:24:44 GMT -5
If a DF cat sided with StarClan during the Great Battle, StarClan would probably react with confusion/distrust, and the DF would try to run them down and kill them for treason, I imagine. Look what they did to Beetlewhisker. If they did survive, whether or not they get to enter StarClan would depend whether they sided with the good guys due to a genuine change of heart or out of cowardice. (Edit: And how bad their crimes were)
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Mar 4, 2020 14:27:31 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 14:27:31 GMT -5
If a DF cat sided with StarClan during the Great Battle, StarClan would probably react with confusion/distrust, and the DF would try to run them down and kill them for treason, I imagine. Look what they did to Beetlewhisker. If they did survive, whether or not they get to enter StarClan would depend whether they sided with the good guys due to a genuine change of heart or out of cowardice. Yeah, that probably would be the most likely outcome
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