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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 11:42:40 GMT -5
In that book, yes. I don't think he saw Ferncloud. You think Ferncloud's a stupid name?
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Post by Turin not Torino on Mar 1, 2020 13:22:23 GMT -5
In that book, yes. I don't think he saw Ferncloud. You think Ferncloud's a stupid name? From the second I first read it. My immediate mental image was of a green cloud, which made me think of bad odor, and I've just never gotten past it. I liked the cat well enough, but never her name.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 13:26:12 GMT -5
You think Ferncloud's a stupid name? From the second I first read it. My immediate mental image was of a green cloud, which made me think of bad odor, and I've just never gotten past it. I liked the cat well enough, but never her name. Omg, that's hilarious XD
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Post by wolfcry32 on Mar 3, 2020 18:26:48 GMT -5
Whenever I hear ‘yellow cat’ I think of, like, a Pikachu colored cat honestly.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Mar 3, 2020 18:46:33 GMT -5
If they want to differentiate the different cream colors, why not use golden cream or something similar? Heck, just use golden?
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Post by Sundance on Mar 3, 2020 19:04:14 GMT -5
I suppose it makes little sense for them to not call him and Tree cream-colored. But I'm just so thrilled to finally have (at least, what I interpret as) a cream-colored protagonist for once I don't care much either way. :-P
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 19:38:53 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁Maybe golden also is a different shade of orange than cream or yellow SundanceYeah, that is pretty cool I think there's been a protagonist of every basic fur color now lol. However, cream is apparently rare, so I wouldn't call it basic...I've seen A LOT of cream cats though, especially in feral cats
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Post by Sundance on Mar 3, 2020 20:56:27 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁Maybe golden also is a different shade of orange than cream or yellow SundanceYeah, that is pretty cool I think there's been a protagonist of every basic fur color now lol. However, cream is apparently rare, so I wouldn't call it basic...I've seen A LOT of cream cats though, especially in feral cats In the main arcs (so minus super editions/novellas) we haven’t had a tortoiseshell/calico or white protagonist, which I’m dying for! :-P
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 21:29:46 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 Maybe golden also is a different shade of orange than cream or yellow Sundance Yeah, that is pretty cool I think there's been a protagonist of every basic fur color now lol. However, cream is apparently rare, so I wouldn't call it basic...I've seen A LOT of cream cats though, especially in feral cats In the main arcs (so minus super editions/novellas) we haven’t had a tortoiseshell/calico or white protagonist, which I’m dying for! :-P That's so true! It would have been nice if Bristlefrost had been a dilute tortoiseshell, instead of yet ANOTHER grey protagonist...she'd still have grey in her, but she'd also have cream
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 21:39:35 GMT -5
Idk, yellow just sounds odd and kind of basic, like orange does, maybe because they are usually more descriptive about cats with those fur colours. Why not just say golden?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 21:53:33 GMT -5
@happy413
I think golden might be a different shade than what they were going for
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Post by halogen on Mar 3, 2020 22:35:41 GMT -5
Cream is just red + dilute gene, the same one that makes black cats gray and black tabbies (the brownish-ray ones with black stripes) blue tabbies (with gray stripes). So if your local feral colony has gray cats around and has orange cats around, it shouldn't be surprising to see cream.
And I personally don't mind yellow. I've certainly seen cats whose coloration (while not bright yellow or anything) seemed like it would be best described asa "yellow" rather than orange, cream, red or golden.
Also, I just realized that almost every series has included as one of its protagonists a tom who is genetically some variant of red but shouldn't exist because their mother is not red, cream or any form of tortoiseshell.
First arc: Firestar (though his genetic impossibility is only revealed in the supplemementary material 3rd/4th arc: Lionblaze 5th arc: Thunder And now 7th arc: Rootpaw
Alderheart is the only "ginger tom protagonist" who is genetically accurate.
And yeah, I would love more tortoiseshell protagonists. The Erins seem to have an insistence on reserving that color for sweet, tragic love interests to the protagonist who inevitably die, and never to a main character in their own right. ever since Spottedleaf.
I would describe the color stereotypes in these books like this:
White: Good guy, pure-hearted and close to StarClan, follows the code (Whitestorm, Whitewing, Moth Flight, Half Moon) Light gray: Character that does a lot of questionable things that divide the fans. Some, not all of them, are even considered an outright villain by some who doesn't deserve redemption, but doesn't have the stereotypical warriors villain motivation of AMBITION and AGGRESSION so isn't treated by the narrative as one (Clear Sky, Needletail, Ashfur, for the "milder version", Goosefeather and Dovewing, Bluestar [who is described as pale gray in wiki]) Dark gray/just gray not otherwise specified: Heroic character who has a perpetually tragic life and is likely to die in the series they were a major player in (though they could just live absurdly long instead) - (Yellowfang, Cinderpelt, Graystripe, Stormfur, Mistystar, Gray Wing, also Bluestar, Hawkwing, Croweather sort of counts) Silver tabby/silver gray: Cool, smart type of cat, probably helps others out, may break the rules or just not be a particularly serious rule follower (Silverstream, River Ripple, Ivypool, Feathertail, Bristlefrost, Echosong, also Needletail (she fits two again) Black: Either they are some kind of runaway or misfit, either due to being villainous/edgy or a nervous wreck (Hollyleaf, Breezepelt, Scourge, Ravenpaw, Shrewtooth, Crowfeather though he's not quite black) or they are a loyal, unproblematic deputy (Lightning Tail, Deadfoot, Reedwhisker), Juniperclaw fits the first but is also a deputy..., Orange/Golden: Heroic and noble, probably an important character/has a POV, and probably a good fighter. Likely to have some unusual connection with StarClan/supernatural power even if they are not a medicine cat (Firestar, Lionheart, Lionblaze, Squirrelflight, Lionblaze, Flametail, Tree, Rootpaw, Sparkpelt, Alderheart, Thunder, Brackenfur) Orange and White: Nice and harmless cat (Brightheart, Fallen Leaves, Stemleaf) Red/Red-brown/Dark Ginger: Somewhat aggressive, fiery, or cocky type, this can vary from likable to just mean (Squirrelflight, Foxleap, Russetfur, Foxheart, Oakheart, Sharpclaw, Rowanstar at times) Light brown or light brown tabby: Generally nice, friendly and reasonable cat (Leafpool, Crookedstar, Littlecloud, Leafstar [always illustrated as brown tabby though her description is cream and brown], Mudfur, Onestar at first) Dark Brown/dark brown tabby: Either aggressive/warlike, grumpy or an outright villain (Adderfang, Clawface, Raggedstar, Brokenstar, Tigerstar, Dustpelt, Mudclaw, Ratscar, Bramblestar and Tigerstar II at times, Hawkfrost) Tortoiseshell: Well, I already said this one above, basically they are a main character's love interest who dies, or at least any she-cat who dies before her mate, and they are probably sweet and friendly (Spottedleaf, Sorreltail, Pebbleshine, Turtle Tail, Poppyfrost though at least she doesn't die) Black and white: Good guy but has a cynical/grumpy/angry side (Violetshine, Tallstar, Barley, Swiftpaw, Blackstar though he's less of a "good guy" than the others)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 7:44:33 GMT -5
halogenWow, that's really cool, I didn't even notice that each pelt color had a personality attached to it in this series, other than the dark brown tabbies all being the bad guys lol.
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