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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 24, 2020 16:38:32 GMT -5
I'll post. You can give me a few Okay here goes!
Crowfeather Sleekwhisker Stonefur Daisy Jayfeather
I actually really like Crowfeather. I think he's developed quite a bit and is an interesting character. My biggest issue with him is actually FeatherCrow because it reminds me of FireSpotted in that they were together a short time but it's TRUE LOVE. I like CrowLeaf because of all they went through. Overall, I enjoy reading about Crowfeather and his trials. Sleekwhisker is someone I hate. She's a butt over stupid things. She had two REALLY good parents (Dawnpelt and Crowfrost are awesome) and then she goes off the handle, and potentially assists in murdering her mother. And then murdering her grandfather. I hope she gets hit by a truck. Stonefur is okay. He's not crazy notable but I do appreciate how noble he was. I love Daisy. I hate when I see people hate on her. I think she's a tough cat who adapted and is necessary to clan life now. She's helped raise most of modern Thunderclan. And even though she's not a fighter, she fought fiercely to protect the nursery from the DF. Jayfeather is very neutral to me. He can be interesting, but at other times he's just nasty to be nasty. I do love his relationship with Leafpool though.
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Post by aether on Feb 24, 2020 16:39:30 GMT -5
Ayyyy: Ferncloud Cinderpelt Squirrelflight Brackenfur Crowfeather
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Post by halogen on Feb 24, 2020 17:28:35 GMT -5
Could I get one?
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Post by halogen on Feb 24, 2020 17:28:52 GMT -5
Could I get one?
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Feb 24, 2020 17:37:11 GMT -5
Leafpool - she gets so much unnecessary hate, because of the false idea that she ‘forced’ her kits on Squirrelflight. She never said anything that made Squirrelflight feel like she had to commit, it was Yellowfang who abused her position and lied about Squirrelflights infertility. Leafpool literally lost everything she ever once cared about, her mate, her kits, her position as med cat, any respect she once had, even had her own daughter threaten her with poison. But still, in Crowfeathers trial, she’s understanding of his relationship with Nightcloud and gently offers advice to help them. Despite her POV being a little boring, personally I feel she deserves a little more love considering what she’s been through.
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Post by aether on Feb 24, 2020 17:43:22 GMT -5
Leafpool - she gets so much unnecessary hate, because of the false idea that she ‘forced’ her kits on Squirrelflight. She never said anything that made Squirrelflight feel like she had to commit, it was Yellowfang who abused her position and lied about Squirrelflights infertility. Leafpool literally lost everything she ever once cared about, her mate, her kits, her position as med cat, any respect she once had, even had her own daughter threaten her with poison. But still, in Crowfeathers trial, she’s understanding of his relationship with Nightcloud and gently offers advice to help them. Despite her POV being a little boring, personally I feel she deserves a little more love considering what she’s been through. I feel this 100% I love leafpool a lot. Sure a lot of things could have been avoided, but then we wouldn't be where we are now.
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Post by aether on Feb 24, 2020 17:45:21 GMT -5
You can pick one or more! Sparkpelt Seedpaw Pouncestep Lionblaze Berrynose
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Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 24, 2020 17:55:36 GMT -5
more if you want them: Oakheart Mothwing Mudclaw Birchfall Ferncloud Oakheart: one of my favorite RiverClan cats. I thought he was a good brother and I liked his relationship with Bluestar. Mothwing: I don't have much of an opinion on her, though I did find it ridiculous how she didn't believe in StarClan even after the Great Battle until very recently Mudclaw: no opinion, though it's a shame he died as soon as he did since I would've loved to have seen him as a main antagonist throughout the second half of TNP Birchfall: no opinion Ferncloud: I really liked her. She was brave as an apprentice and just an overall sweet cat.
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mrnnki
I do not think, therefore I am not.
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Post by mrnnki on Feb 24, 2020 17:59:06 GMT -5
I know, i love this stuff! As always, I'll give you a few and you can do them all or just whichever you want:
Firestar Bramblestar Thornclaw Bumblestripe Ashfur
Firestar - I never particularly liked him. He didn't feel very interesting when I read ItW as a kid, and most of the time I just kinda ignored him when he came up in other series. When he was first introduced, he had a bit of fierceness to him, but I feel like that became less noticeable at some point. Firestar isn't a bad character, he's just extremely generic. - New to the world? Check.
- Kind and compassionate? Check.
- Chosen one? Check.
- Impacts characters around him in an almost entirely positive way (unless they're antagonists)? Check.
Bramblestar - He was my favorite character growing up, and I still can't stop being obsessed with him, even if I don't like him as much. (I actually based an OC on him, and that OC ended up being how I viewed the character and his personality for a long time instead of the books. Whoops...) He was an interesting character with flaws when I first read about him in TNP, and I liked his want to be deputy because it reminded me of my want to feel important, and it still does to some degree. He was nice in BrS. I enjoyed reading about how insecure he felt in the position, and it made sense for what I remembered of him. However, based on what I've heard about him in SqH, my opinions might change once I read it. It scares me a little, since some of the things he does in the wiki summary sound vaguely similar to things the possessor was said to have done, especially when it comes to having a controlling nature. I'd like to believe that maybe the possessor was there soon after he became leader and only gained full control now, but I doubt it.
Thornclaw - I never paid much attention to Thornclaw. I really only know him as "the patrol guy," and that's from Moonkitti's videos.
Bumblestripe - Similarly to Thornclaw, I never cared about him much. He seemed nice in OotS, but whatever happened between then and his weird confrontations with Dovewing later on changed him a lot. What is it with Warriors and creepy toms?
Ashfur - Ah, yes. The original creepy tom. I don't remember noticing his descent into... whatever happened... until the fire scene. I probably should've picked up on it (I had spoilers, for crying out loud! I knew he was gonna do it!) but there wasn't much. Especially back in TNP, there should've been more focus put on him so that it made a bit more sense. I can't even remember him talking much before his whole thing with Squirrelflight in TNP, it just kinda came out of nowhere. I try to view the arcs as semi-standalone pieces, sort of like super editions, so that doesn't sit well with me. I also remember hearing somewhere that he and Brambleclaw used to be friends, which I like because it could've caused more drama than it did, but they never utilized it or showed it in TNP or Po3. Many of Ashfur's flaws, and probably the series's in general, are a lack of sufficient planning. It really bothers me, since the Erins could do so much with a lot of the ideas and characters they introduce, but something is always awry.
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Post by halogen on Feb 24, 2020 19:22:47 GMT -5
Lionblaze: He has a great dynamic with the other two of the three (however they were written as individual characters, the three are my favorite POV group for sure) and as a narrator in TPOT he's pretty good (whiny and arrogant, not always exactly likeable, sure, but he's intended to be that way, someone who is careless with his power and kind of knows it and wants to be a better cat). I liked his arc with Heathertail. His main problem in TPOT are that his motives are never properly explained - why exactly is he so angry and bloodthirsty, what makes him so enthused by Tigerstar and Hawkfrost - these all have pretty vague answers and it seems like it's just all about drama. It would have been much more interesting if he was a Thistleclaw-like character (maybe more sympathetic than Thistleclaw, though) in a ThunderClan that was genuinely going to war a lot like in the older series rather than being morally perfect and only dealing with the occasional mean neighbor, giving more context to his bloodlust and making it fit into his upbringing and society. As well was if his poor relationship with Ashfur was more expanded on. That and he isn't given enough focus on his good qualities to show why he's valued as a brother and friend to his Clanmates, again he doesn't have to be fully likable but he should at least have some good quality that stands out beyond some generic niceness to make us sympathize for him. If those two things were fixed he would be a great character, as he is in TPOT he's not bad, and really shows the series' theme of how power can be terrifying, giving tension to his invincibility that would be boring if he was just on the good side (his power still should have been toned down a bit, though...
And then OOTS happens and ruins all that, just getting rid of all of his old character flaws (well, he sometimes has some questionable thoughts but they never amount to anything) and the whole theme of power being scary and not having a moral, and just making him the generic heroic chosen one who is on the side of good because prophecy says so (It always bothered me how it shifted from "unholy power, usurping StarClan, could be used for good or evil but is definitely scary" to "These guys are Good Guys by default and were always destined to save everyone and not become evil"). It's just not realistic to think that his arrogance, anger issues and dark thoughts only existed because he hung around Tigerstar and Hawkfrost, and on top of that he doesn't even do anything for the prophecy, he just obsessed after Cinderheart and wastes chapters of the book. And the worst thing about his whole "I'm so special I cannot be around ordinary cats" thing he has in both series is that the Erins seem to agree with it and not see it as over the top self-importance - they specifically got him together with Cinderheart because she has a special mystical background too and isn't like one of those boring peasants who don't deserve him or whatever.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Feb 24, 2020 20:57:45 GMT -5
You know the drill: Dovewing Brightheart Thornclaw Blossomfall Dawnpelt Dovewing - I like her and I like her personality. I wish they did more with her in OotS because it felt like she didn't have anything to do. The books rarely forces her to change in a meaningful way. The thing that came close to being challenged was her closeness to cats outside of her clan, but that didn't really go anywhere or come to any meaningful conclusion. We are never really told why her closeness to Sedgewhisker and Tigerheart was a bad thing, as she didn't really suffer as a result of those beliefs. I mean, Ivypool gets captured and ThunderClan loses some herbs, but no one actually got hurt and the problem could have been avoided if the clans weren't jerks to each other. She also doesn't contribute much to the main plot (a problem not exclusive to her, hardly anyone does). This problem went away in Dovewing's Silence as she had a meaningful impact on the conflict of that book. Brightheart - She is fine. She was used to show how dangerous Tigerstar still was as well as how Bluestar's negligent leadership negitively impacts her clan in TPB. In later books she shows the newcomers of the clans what could happen to them if they stay in the clans. Blossomfall - She trained in the Dark Forest, who she knew was filled cat Hitlers, as a form of self harm because she was guilty of feeling jealous of her sister. That's a little extreme, don't you think? Thornclaw/Dawnpelt - They are pretty much background characters, so I don't really an opinion on them.
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Post by UnsightlyHeretic831 on Feb 24, 2020 22:36:40 GMT -5
Ivypool - She's a neutral character for me. I feel like she was pretty naive as an apprentice, but I can't blame her for her actions. I would do the same thing if I were her. She is a pretty responsible mother and chose the right father to her kits, and she acted on good choices and redeemed herself from working with the Dark Forest unknowingly. Hollyleaf - She was a cat with well intentions. She killed Ashfur with a right, not wanting her real mother and adoptive to get in trouble, and she saved Ivypool in the Great Battle. She kept Fallen Leaves company, and she had better common sense than her siblings. She was a smart thinker, and I love her for her traits. Berrynose - This dude is straight up snobby and stuck-up. The newest books have shown that more. Even as an apprentice, he kept up this arrogant and bratty attitude. This cat needs to learn some manners. Ashfur - Ashfur was down on his luck in love. He dwelled on one cat whom he could never be mates with long enough to never find other love, and get ironically killed because of his anger. He was angry at a cat who had loved someone else, and it wasn't Squirrelflight's fault. Punishing her adoptive kits for it, that's just too far. Daisy - She is such a beautiful cat, and she has a loving personality. It isn't her fault Berrynose came out as the little crap he is. She cared a lot about kits and loved them, which leads her to decide to stay a permanent queen, where she cares about the little ones. She is such an admirable character, imo.
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Post by Woofzie on Feb 25, 2020 0:25:49 GMT -5
Ask and you shall receive! Do as many as you please:
Crowfeather Lionblaze Bluestar Icecloud Sorreltail
Crowfeather: tbh I am in neutral ground on him, leading towards 'like'. He was a pain in TNP, PoT and OotS but I grew to tolerate him especially reading his SE. Lionblaze: as well as Crow, I'm neutral on him leaning to like. He was the worst of the Three and really boring but I like him as background character in TBC. Oh and I find his attack to Heatherpaw in Eclipse to be justified. Bluestar: I really despise her and think he should have never been leader. I have always said that a good leader maintains itself through good and bad moments and puts (her Clan) beyond anything else. While Bluestar's 'sacrifice' may seem it that way the fact that Sunstar didn't want to take Thistleclaw as deputy makes it pointless. And StarClan Bluestar manages to be the same or even worse then when she was alive, lol. Icecloud: I loved her so much, she and Foxleap had so much potential and I'm still mad she was killed off so early and so stupid. Sorreltail: I really loved her, her kits and her relationship with Brackenfur. She was sweet and caring, and I wish we've got to see her friendship with Leafpool more. Though, I don't mind that she was killed in the Great Battle, the way she died was really on character and bittersweet. I really like to do this so if you want gimme more :3
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Formerly known as totaldramaforever on the old forums!
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Post by ashheart19 on Feb 29, 2020 4:42:36 GMT -5
Sure is!
Bramblestar Squirrelflight Leafpool Tawnypelt Stormfur
The most recent book I read was Shattered Sky, and that was a while ago so my opinions might not be the most accurate. Bramblestar - I actually liked him a lot in TNP. I liked his and Squirrelflight's relationship in TNP, I liked the conflict he had of not wanting to be like his father, though he trained in the Dark Forest with him for a bit. I wish he'd handled the truth about the Three differently (like, still spoke with the Three), but I understand why he reacted in such a way. I was excited when I found out he was going to be ThunderClan's new leader, though not much really went on yet (Haven't read TBC yet!). However, Bramblestar's Storm is one of the super editions I could care less about, because of the unnecessary Squirrel/Bramble/Jessy triangle. I did hear that there was an imposter Bramblestar in the new series and it sounds really interesting but I need to finish AVoS first... Squirrelflight - I really liked her in TNP as well! I loved her fiery and headstrong personality. As I mentioned earlier, I love Bramble/Squirrel also. And I love the bond that she has with Leafpool, so much so that she raises Leafpool's kits. However, later on in the series, there's some things I wish were changed. I wouldn't have made her deputy (idk if that's an unpopular opinion here?). I feel that Squirrelflight got to be deputy because Bramblestar was trying to show that he forgave her. I feel that the position should have been given to a younger cat. Also, I don't see why she and Bramblestar needed to have kits of their own in AVoS because it means that StarClan basically lied to her so she could raise the Three. Idk, honestly this is more of a StarClan problem though. And also because not all relationships need to end up having kits. AVoS just feels like a poorly written fic to me, but that's a topic for another day. Anyways, I love Squirrelflight, though I wish we got to see more of her fiery personality after TNP. Leafpool - Leafpool is actually my favorite cat on this list. I love her so much and her POVs were the most interesting to read about to me. I think the only thing I didn't like about Leafpool was that she was willing to leave her Clan, who needed her, for Crowfeather. I do like Leaf/Crow though. I understand why she had to lie about the Three, and as I said earlier, I love the bond between her and Squirrelflight. I read that she died though which is sad, she was my favorite of the sisters. Tawnypelt - One of the ShadowClan cats I really like! I wish she had a pov in TNP! I like that she went against her father's training in the Dark Forest and turned her back on him. Though, I'm confused, why did she name her son Tigerkit if she didn't want anything to do with Tigerclawstar? Anyways, I wish she was ShadowClan's leader over Tigerheartstar. Stormfur - Not much I can really say about him. I feel pretty neutral about him. I like that he was a good brother to Feathertail, but he left halfway into TNP to live with the Tribe. Also, I don't understand why he had a crush on Squirrelflight because it was never mentioned again that I know of? This is way longer than I meant it to be, oops-
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