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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 24, 2016 16:51:53 GMT -5
I'm unsure where exactly this thread most belongs, but...
Are you curious about cat genetics?
Would you prefer to have a touch of realism in your warrior kitty's bloodline?
Or are you curious about the hypothetical kits of your OTP?
In this thread, I can help out with that! If you fill out a form, follow a few rules, and enter a simple password, I can do my best with finding out what your adorable litter could look like! I can even offer a few kits along with the statistics, and give them a name suggestion based off Traditional naming. Of course, you can use your own name ideas, and I'll offer the service only if you want me to throw out my ideas.
So, if you've decided you want me to help out, here's the rules:
1. Please understand I'm only an amateur.
2. Please understand I do this in my free time.
3. Don't double-post, or spam along the lines of "You forgot me!" I'll get to everyone when I can.
4. The password is crab-plover
5. I'll assume all genes are homozygous unless noted, as in, if a cat isn't a colorpoint, I'll assume they don't carry the recessive siamese colorpoint gene unless you tell me they do.
6. When describing parent cats, use the same descriptor categories for each. Example:
- wrong
Mommacat: red mackerel tabby
Dadcat: brown tabby longhair
- correct
Mommacat: red mackerel tabby shorthair
Dadcat: brown mackerel tabby longhair
7. If a gene is hidden in appearance, I'll assume the it's the dominant type or wild type. Example
A cat is completely white due to either high grade whitespotting or the W white mask gene. I'll assume it carries the genes for a brown mackerel tabby, as that is the wild type for cats.
8. I cannot determine cat eye color.
9. Please specify if your "silver tabby" is a gray tabby or has a silver smoke undercoat. The same goes for any "golden" cats- are they just a yellower red/orange cat, or do they have the golden smoke undercoat?
Form:
Mother cat: Cat name
(describe the cat's appearance, and any genes she carries if you wish. If the cat is pure white, specify to me if it's albino, deaf white, or healthy white, as they have differing genes.)
Father cat: Cat name
(describe the cat's appearance, and any genes he carries if you wish. If the cat is pure white, specify to me if it's albino, deaf white, or healthy white, as they have differing genes.)
Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities?
If you want a litter, specify the number of kits.
If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions.
Enter the password:
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 24, 2016 22:41:33 GMT -5
Here's an example, as I realize this may be confusing.
An example pairing Mother cat: Cedartail A brown classic tabby she-cat with white mitts. She's short-haired, lacks American curled ears, and has polydactl (heterozyguous for the trait). She carries the gene for dilute and dilute modifier (homozyguous). Father cat: Asternose A blue tom with tuxedo whitespotting. He's short-haired, lacks polydactl, and has American curled ears. He carries the genes for mackerel tabby and classic tabby (Mc/mc) I want a hypothetical litter along with statistics. I want 3 kits. I want name suggestions. The Results are under the spoiler due to length The example pairing results: brown-based color| Aster above, Cedar below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black brown based colorred/orange color| Aster above, Cedar below | o | . | | o | oo | o. | | o | oo | o. |
100% no red/orangedilution| Aster above, Cedar below | d | d | | D | Dd | Dd | | d | dd | dd |
50% non-dilute, 50% dilutedilution modifier| Aster above, Cedar below | dm | dm | | Dm | Dmdm | Dmdm | | Dm | Dmdm | Dmdm |
100% dilute are modifiedagouti (tabby or solid)| Aster above, Cedar below | a | a | | A | Aa | Aa | | A | Aa | Aa |
100% agouti (tabby)mackerel vs classic tabby| Aster above, Cedar below | Mc | mc | | mc | Mcmc | mcmc | | mc | Mcmc | mcmc |
50% mackerel tabby, 50% classic tabbywhitespotting (healthy white)| Aster above, Cedar below | S | s | | S | SS | Ss | | s | Ss | ss |
25% half or more white, 50% less than half white, 25% no whitefur length| Aster above, Cedar below | L | L | | L | LL | LL | | L | LL | LL |
100% short-hairedAmerican curled ears| Aster above, Cedar below | Cu | Cu | | cu | Cucu | Cucu | | cu | Cucu | Cucu |
100% American curled earspolydactl| Aster above, Cedar below | pd | pd | | Pd | Pdpd | Pdpd | | pd | pdpd | pdpd |
50% polydactl, 50% regular pawsThe kits: 1. Pigeonkit - A short-haired, blue caramel mackerel tabby tom with tuxedo whitespotting. He lacks polydactl and has American curled ears. - Genotype: BB, o., LL, dd, Dmdm, Aa, Mcmc, Ss, pdpd, Cucu 2. Thistlekit - A short-haired, blue caramel classic tabby she-cat with no whitespotting. She has polydactl and has American curled ears. - Genotype: BB, oo, LL, dd, Dmdm, Aa, mcmc, ss, Pdpd, Cucu 3. Aspenkit - A short-haired, blue mackerel tabby she-cat with high grade whitespotting. She has no polydactl and has American curled ears. - Genotype: BB, oo, LL, Dd, Dmdm, Aa, Mcmc, SS, pdpd, Cucu |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 24, 2016 23:07:11 GMT -5
And, with an example out of the way...
If you want to find out more, then here are the sites I use: cfa.org/breeders/catcolorsgenetics/basicfelinegenetics.aspxmessybeast.com/gene-symbols.htmearthpetsorganic.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/catcoatcolor1.jpeg
My method of making the litter kittens is actually random. (which mimics actual litters). I use the Punnet Squares I make along with the random number generator from Random.org I set the number generator to min 1, max 4, then imagine a Punnet Square like this: | Mom below, Dad above | S | s | | S | SS (1) | Ss (2) | | s | Ss (3) | ss (4) |
In this case, the trait I'm determining is whitespotting. I use the random number generator to generate a number. Say it picks 1, the kit will have high grade whitespotting. If it picks 2 or 3, then the kit will be bicolor or less when it comes to whitespotting. If it picks 4, the kit has not one lick of white on it. I do this method through all the Punnet Squares and then use the results to create the kitten. Each gene has its own effect, and some genes won't show that effect without another gene showing up. For example, a cat could carry dilute modifier (dominant) but not display dilute (recessive), which would result in a non-dilute, non-dilute modified cat. A cat that lacks the agouti gene won't show its tabby pattern (unless it's red), so a solid black cat could be carrying classic tabby and no one would know until they have kits. Interesting, right? |
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Post by Jackalstep on Aug 25, 2016 13:21:35 GMT -5
I think a thread like this would be better off in Forum Games, maybe one of the mods could move it if you want.
Anyhow, I'd love to support a thread like this, since I'm a huge genetics nerd! I shall fill out a form when I have more time later.
(And you have picked such a cool password, those critters are neat!)
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 25, 2016 14:12:56 GMT -5
Ah, understood! I'll try to get it moved when I can.
Also, same here. I find it fascinating how genetics can be so complex and yet so simply calculated. I might even study betta fish genetics someday, it'd be more relevant to my dream marine biologist career, hehe
(And thanks! I almost went for white faced storm petrel, or perhaps sandpiper, but crab plovers just stand out most to me. ^^)
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 0:46:20 GMT -5
A quick bump, seeing as the post got moved to another section
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Post by prophet on Aug 26, 2016 1:09:32 GMT -5
Awesome~ I love genetics X3
(I actually made a thread where I use genetics)
I'll definitely bookmark this and come back XD
And, @redx, this is okay here, or???
Please help raise my dragons:        
 
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Post by prophet on Aug 26, 2016 1:17:45 GMT -5
Nope, I changed my mind, I want to do it @u@
Mother cat: Starkfeather-shorthair orange and white tabby she-cat
carries shorthair orange tabby and longhair blue tortoiseshell. no special markings
Father cat: Jayfrost-longhair dark gray tom with black stripes. Has a black mask.
carries longhair blue spotted tabby and longhair black and white norwegian forest cat (black mask)
Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities?
If you want a litter, specify the number of kits. I'd like 5
If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions. Bird-based, weather-based, or astrological-based are best.
Enter the password: crab-plover (wut, lol)
Please help raise my dragons:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 1:30:34 GMT -5
I just lost power so I'm on mobile but this is fine here.
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 3:04:40 GMT -5
A few notes about these descriptions in the spoiler belowEr, Prophet, a cat can't "carry" (as in, you can't tell it's in the genes looking at the cat) a red color. Basically, if a cat has the red gene, seeing as it's dominant, it WILL be apparent. If a she-cat is all red, no blue/black/brown on her, then she can't make a kit that isn't partly red. Both X chromosomes from Starkfeather have the red gene on them, meaning she's solid red, not torty. Her X chromosomes would both pass on red. Male kits get their color genes from their mother and from her X chromosome, meaning... All male kits would be red, in that case. The females would only be able to be torty or pure red, seeing as they get a Starkfeather X chromosome, and, well, both have red. I suppose she could make blue torty kits when bred to Jayfrost, with her contributing a red gene with one dilute allele, and Jay contributing one no-red gene with the other dilute allele.
The longhair gene is fine as it can be carried with it being recessive.
As for Jayfrost... I haven't seen any Norwegian black mask gene ever. What I do know of, however, is a sepia/burmese colorpoint: Basically, imagine a siamese cat. Now imagine the white part of the body being much more dark, giving the face what appears to be a mask. Additionally, a cat can't "carry" whitespotting either, unless you mean it's extremely minimal but could be more obviously manifested in the next generation. An S/s cat has some white, ranging from half white to barely any, but an s/s cat has 0 white, AND can't give any white to their offspring when it comes to their genetics. He could have some kits with white from Starkfeather from HER whitespotting genes, but he has 0 whitespotting from what I'm told, so he doesn't carry it.
A dilute cat (I interpret any cat with "Gray" or "Blue" as diluted, as undilute solid is black and undilute tabby is brown tabby) can't carry undilute, since dilute is a recessive gene. A mixed gene cat (D/d) would be undilute.
The spotted tabby genes I know of (Sp and Pmf) are both dominant, so they can't be carried without showing themselves. Since Jayfrost is a Striped tabby, he can't have those genes, since if he had the gene, he'd be spotted, not striped.
Also, since you didn't specify tabby markings appearing on the cats, I'll assume they have mackerel tabby markings.
I have other gripes regarding what is carried, but I'll do my best to work around them if possible. With that aside... Punnet Square results under the spoiler belowOkay, so... I did my best to try to fit the appearance of these cats into realistic genetics. Anything that could be realistically carried is carried. brown-based color| Jay above, Stark below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black brown based colorred/orange color| Jay above, Stark below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | O | Oo | O. |
50% torty (all girls), 50% red/orange (all boys)dilution| Jay above, Stark below | d | d | | D | Dd | Dd | | d | dd | dd |
50% non-dilute, 50% diluteagouti (tabby or solid)| Jay above, Stark below | A | a | | A | AA | Aa | | a | Aa | aa |
75% agouti (tabby), 25% non-agouti (solid unless red)whitespotting (healthy white)| Jay above, Stark below | s | s | | S | Ss | Ss | | s | ss | ss |
50% less than half white, 50% no whitefur length| Jay above, Stark below | l | l | | L | Ll | Ll | | l | ll | ll |
50% short-haired 50% long-hairedalbinism traits| Jay above, Stark below | cb | cb | | C | Ccb | Ccb | | C | Ccb | Ccb |
100% non-albino (but carrying burmese colorpoint)The kits:
1. Duskkit (In reference to the red sunset)
- A long-haired red tabby and white tom. He carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, O., Dd, AA, Ss, ll, Ccb
2. Dawnkit (In reference to the golden sunrise)
- A short-haired cream tabby tom. He carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, Aa, ss, Ll, Ccb
3. Skipperkit (In reference to skipper butterflies. Not quite birds, but still a flier.)
- A long-haired brown-tabby-and-red torbie she-cat, with white. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Dd, Aa, Ss, ll, Ccb
4. Robinkit (In reference to robin birds)
- A long-haired brown-tabby-and-red torbie she-cat. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Dd, AA, ss, ll, Ccb
5. Kestrelkit (In reference to kestrel birds)
- A long-haired blue-cream torty she-cat, with white. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, aa, Ss, ll, Ccb
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Post by prophet on Aug 26, 2016 3:11:43 GMT -5
A few notes about these descriptions in the spoiler belowEr, Prophet, a cat can't "carry" (as in, you can't tell it's in the genes looking at the cat) a red color. Basically, if a cat has the red gene, seeing as it's dominant, it WILL be apparent. If a she-cat is all red, no blue/black/brown on her, then she can't make a kit that isn't partly red. Both X chromosomes from Starkfeather have the red gene on them, meaning she's solid red, not torty. Her X chromosomes would both pass on red. Male kits get their color genes from their mother and from her X chromosome, meaning... All male kits would be red, in that case. The females would only be able to be torty or pure red, seeing as they get a Starkfeather X chromosome, and, well, both have red. I suppose she could make blue torty kits when bred to Jayfrost, with her contributing a red gene with one dilute allele, and Jay contributing one no-red gene with the other dilute allele.
The longhair gene is fine as it can be carried with it being recessive.
As for Jayfrost... I haven't seen any Norwegian black mask gene ever. What I do know of, however, is a sepia/burmese colorpoint: Basically, imagine a siamese cat. Now imagine the white part of the body being much more dark, giving the face what appears to be a mask. Additionally, a cat can't "carry" whitespotting either, unless you mean it's extremely minimal but could be more obviously manifested in the next generation. An S/s cat has some white, ranging from half white to barely any, but an s/s cat has 0 white, AND can't give any white to their offspring when it comes to their genetics. He could have some kits with white from Starkfeather from HER whitespotting genes, but he has 0 whitespotting from what I'm told, so he doesn't carry it.
A dilute cat (I interpret any cat with "Gray" or "Blue" as diluted, as undilute solid is black and undilute tabby is brown tabby) can't carry undilute, since dilute is a recessive gene. A mixed gene cat (D/d) would be undilute.
The spotted tabby genes I know of (Sp and Pmf) are both dominant, so they can't be carried without showing themselves. Since Jayfrost is a Striped tabby, he can't have those genes, since if he had the gene, he'd be spotted, not striped.
Also, since you didn't specify tabby markings appearing on the cats, I'll assume they have mackerel tabby markings.
I have other gripes regarding what is carried, but I'll do my best to work around them if possible. With that aside... Punnet Square results under the spoiler belowOkay, so... I did my best to try to fit the appearance of these cats into realistic genetics. Anything that could be realistically carried is carried. brown-based color| Jay above, Stark below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black brown based colorred/orange color| Jay above, Stark below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | O | Oo | O. |
50% torty (all girls), 50% red/orange (all boys)dilution| Jay above, Stark below | d | d | | D | Dd | Dd | | d | dd | dd |
50% non-dilute, 50% diluteagouti (tabby or solid)| Jay above, Stark below | A | a | | A | AA | Aa | | a | Aa | aa |
75% agouti (tabby), 25% non-agouti (solid unless red)whitespotting (healthy white)| Jay above, Stark below | s | s | | S | Ss | Ss | | s | ss | ss |
50% less than half white, 50% no whitefur length| Jay above, Stark below | l | l | | L | Ll | Ll | | l | ll | ll |
50% short-haired 50% long-hairedalbinism traits| Jay above, Stark below | cb | cb | | C | Ccb | Ccb | | C | Ccb | Ccb |
100% non-albino (but carrying burmese colorpoint)The kits:
1. Duskkit (In reference to the red sunset)
- A long-haired red tabby and white tom. He carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, O., Dd, AA, Ss, ll, Ccb
2. Dawnkit (In reference to the golden sunrise)
- A short-haired cream tabby tom. He carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, Aa, ss, Ll, Ccb
3. Skipperkit (In reference to skipper butterflies. Not quite birds, but still a flier.)
- A long-haired brown-tabby-and-red torbie she-cat, with white. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Dd, Aa, Ss, ll, Ccb
4. Robinkit (In reference to robin birds)
- A long-haired brown-tabby-and-red torbie she-cat. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Dd, AA, ss, ll, Ccb
5. Kestrelkit (In reference to kestrel birds)
- A long-haired blue-cream and white she-cat. She carries the Burmese colorpoint gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, aa, Ss, ll, Ccb
That said, thank you very much! I will be back~
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 3:13:24 GMT -5
It's no problem! It gave me a bit of practice coming up with a system of what to do when given odd descriptors, so I consider it training in a way.
I hope you enjoy your kits, and I look forwards to seeing you back! ^^
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Post by prophet on Aug 26, 2016 3:15:16 GMT -5
Okay, good :3 I will 
I look forward to it as well 
Please help raise my dragons:
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -5
Here's a quick bump
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Post by The Green Writer on Aug 26, 2016 18:25:11 GMT -5
Mother cat: Patchwing
(Small tortoiseshell with amber eyes. Her long fur is matted)
Father cat: Cranetail
(Long cat with tabby markings. His eyes are green and his fur is a healthy, pale grey. He has white socks and a round face)
Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities?
hypothetical
If you want a litter, specify the number of kits.
five
If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions.
Yes, I would love suggestions
Enter the password: crablover
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 18:32:07 GMT -5
The Green Writer What fur length does Cranetail have?
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Post by The Green Writer on Aug 26, 2016 18:32:56 GMT -5
Short. Sorry, forgot to say that
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 18:34:34 GMT -5
It's alright! I'll get to calculating right away!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:35:34 GMT -5
Random thing, I absolutely despise messybeast. I was looking on one of their pages, and I thought this cat genetics image looked cool, so I searched for it, and they actually stole it from another website.
Edit: they actually stole the image from the third link. They split it up and put it in little bits on another page. It was originally from another website called cedarseed.
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Post by Jackalstep on Aug 26, 2016 18:47:17 GMT -5
Mother cat: Finchstorm
Shorthaired brown mackerel torbie she-cat. She carries the genes for dilution, solid color, and long hair.
Father cat: Skunkfur
Longhaired black-and-white tom. The white is distributed on his paws, chest, belly, muzzle, and tail tip. He carries the genes for dilution and no white spotting. He is homozygous for mackerel tabby.
Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? Hypothetical litter, but no names please. Four kits.
Enter the password: crab-plover
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Post by lividlink on Aug 26, 2016 19:54:24 GMT -5
//slides in
I'm super into genetics and when I saw this I just knew I had to see what would happen, so here I am :>
Mother cat: Morning
A long-haired blue-cream classic torbie she-cat. She has whitespotting in the mask-and-mantle pattern, so about half of her is white.
Father cat: Squirrel
A short-haired blue mackerel tabby tom. He is a Manx cat and has a short tail. He has no whitespotting.
Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities?
I'd like a hypothetical litter, please!
If you want a litter, specify the number of kits.
Four would be nice!
If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions.
Anything is good! Names aren't even required.
Enter the password: crab-plover
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 21:17:45 GMT -5
Mother cat: Patchwing (Small tortoiseshell with amber eyes. Her long fur is matted) Father cat: Cranetail (Long cat with tabby markings. His eyes are green and his fur is a healthy, pale grey. He has white socks and a round face) Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? hypothetical If you want a litter, specify the number of kits. five If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions. Yes, I would love suggestions Enter the password: crablover Punnet Square results below the spoiler... brown-based color| Crane above, Patch below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% brown based blackred/orange color| Crane above, Patch below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | o | oo | o. |
25% torty (female), 25% non-red (female), 25% red (male), 25% non-red (male)agouti (tabby)| Crane above, Patch below | A | A | | a | Aa | Aa | | a | Aa | Aa |
100% agouti (tabby)dilute| Crane above, Patch below | d | d | | D | Dd | Dd | | D | Dd | Dd |
100% non-dilutewhitespotting| Crane above, Patch below | S | s | | s | Ss | ss | | s | Ss | ss |
50% less than half white, 50% no whitefur length| Crane above, Patch below | L | L | | l | Ll | Ll | | l | Ll | Ll |
100% short-haired Kitten results below the spoiler... 1. Cherrykit
- A short-haired red-and-brown torbie she-cat, with white. She carries dilute, solid, and the long-haired gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Aa, Dd, Ss, Ll
2. Brairkit
- A short-haired brown tabby tom. He carries dilute, solid, and the long-haired gene.
- genotype: BB, o., Aa, Dd, ss, Ll
3. Sorrelkit
- A short-haired red-and-brown torbie she-cat. She carries dilute, solid, and the long-haired gene.
- genotype: BB, Oo, Aa, Dd, ss, Ll
4. Blazekit
- A short-haired red tabby tom. He carries dilute, solid, and the long-haired gene.
- genotype: BB, O., Aa, Dd, ss, Ll
5. Maplekit
- A short-haired brown tabby she-cat. She carries dilute, solid, and the long-haired gene.
- genotype: BB, oo, Aa, Dd, Ss, Ll |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 21:18:22 GMT -5
I'll get to everyone else soon!
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 23:22:13 GMT -5
Mother cat: Finchstorm Shorthaired brown mackerel torbie she-cat. She carries the genes for dilution, solid color, and long hair. Father cat: Skunkfur Longhaired black-and-white tom. The white is distributed on his paws, chest, belly, muzzle, and tail tip. He carries the genes for dilution and no white spotting. He is homozygous for mackerel tabby. Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? Hypothetical litter, but no names please. Four kits. Enter the password: crab-plover Nice touch using solid red to carry non-agouti! Punnet Square results in the spoiler below: brown-based color| Skunk above, Finch below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black based brownred/orange color| Skunk above, Finch below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | o | oo | o. |
25% torty (f), 25% non-red (f), 25% red (m), 25% non-red (m)dilute| Skunk above, Finch below | D | d | | D | DD | Dd | | d | Dd | dd |
75% non-dilute, 25% diluteagouti (tabby)| Skunk above, Finch below | a | a | | A | Aa | Aa | | a | aa | aa |
50% non-agouti (solid), 50% agouti (tabby)tabby pattern (mackerel vs classic)| Skunk above, Finch below | Mc | Mc | | Mc | McMc | McMc | | Mc | McMc | McMc |
100% mackerel tabbywhitespotting| Skunk above, Finch below | S | s | | s | Ss | ss | | s | Ss | ss |
50% less than half white, 50% no whitefur length| Skunk above, Finch below | l | l | | L | Ll | Ll | | l | ll | ll |
50% short-haired, 50% long-haired Kitten results in the spoiler below: 1. Kit One
- A long-haired red mackerel tabby tom. He carries dilute and heterozygous agouti.
- genotype: BB, O., Dd, Aa, McMc, ss, ll
2. Kit Two
- A long-haired black she-cat with white. She carries mackerel tabby and dilute.
- genotype: BB, oo, Dd, aa, McMc, Ss, ll
3. Kit Thre
- A short-haired blue-cream mackerel torbie she-cat. She carries heterozygous agouti and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, Aa, McMc, ss, Ll
4. Kit Four
- A short-haired black she-cat. She carries mackerel tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, oo, DD, aa, McMc, ss, Ll |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 23:57:20 GMT -5
//slides in I'm super into genetics and when I saw this I just knew I had to see what would happen, so here I am :> Mother cat: Morning A long-haired blue-cream classic torbie she-cat. She has whitespotting in the mask-and-mantle pattern, so about half of her is white. Father cat: Squirrel A short-haired blue mackerel tabby tom. He is a Manx cat and has a short tail. He has no whitespotting. Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? I'd like a hypothetical litter, please! If you want a litter, specify the number of kits. Four would be nice! If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions. Anything is good! Names aren't even required. Enter the password: crab-plover Your batch of kits, coming up! Punnet Square results in the spoiler below brown-based color| Squirrel above, Morning below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black based brownred/orange color| Squirrel above, Morning below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | o | oo | o. |
25% torty (f), 25% non-red (f), 25% red (m), 25% non-red (m)dilute| Squirrel above, Morning below | d | d | | d | dd | dd | | d | dd | dd |
100% diluteagouti (tabby)| Squirrel above, Morning below | A | A | | A | AA | AA | | A | AA | AA |
100% agouti (tabby)tabby pattern (mackerel vs classic)| Squirrel above, Morning below | Mc | Mc | | mc | Mcmc | Mcmc | | mc | Mcmc | Mcmc |
100% mackerel tabbywhitespotting| Squirrel above, Morning below | s | s | | S | Ss | Ss | | S | Ss | Ss |
100% less than half whitefur length| Squirrel above, Morning below | L | L | | l | Ll | Ll | | l | Ll | Ll |
100% shorthairManx tail| Squirrel above, Morning below | M | m | | m | Mm | mm | | m | Mm | mm |
50% Manx suppressed tail, 50% regular tail Kitten results in the spoiler below: 1. Wasp
- A short-haired cream mackerel tabby and white tom, with a Manx tail. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, Mm
2. Lilac
- A short-haired blue mackerel tabby and white tom. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, o., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, mm
3. Bee
- A short-haired cream mackerel tabby and white tom. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, mm
4. Lichen
- A short-haired blue-cream and white torbie she-cat, with a Manx tail. She carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, Mm |
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Post by lividlink on Aug 27, 2016 10:41:03 GMT -5
//slides in I'm super into genetics and when I saw this I just knew I had to see what would happen, so here I am :> Mother cat: Morning A long-haired blue-cream classic torbie she-cat. She has whitespotting in the mask-and-mantle pattern, so about half of her is white. Father cat: Squirrel A short-haired blue mackerel tabby tom. He is a Manx cat and has a short tail. He has no whitespotting. Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? I'd like a hypothetical litter, please! If you want a litter, specify the number of kits. Four would be nice! If you want a litter, tell me if you want my name suggestions. Anything is good! Names aren't even required. Enter the password: crab-plover Your batch of kits, coming up! Punnet Square results in the spoiler below brown-based color| Squirrel above, Morning below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black based brownred/orange color| Squirrel above, Morning below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | o | oo | o. |
25% torty (f), 25% non-red (f), 25% red (m), 25% non-red (m)dilute| Squirrel above, Morning below | d | d | | d | dd | dd | | d | dd | dd |
100% diluteagouti (tabby)| Squirrel above, Morning below | A | A | | A | AA | AA | | A | AA | AA |
100% agouti (tabby)tabby pattern (mackerel vs classic)| Squirrel above, Morning below | Mc | Mc | | mc | Mcmc | Mcmc | | mc | Mcmc | Mcmc |
100% mackerel tabbywhitespotting| Squirrel above, Morning below | s | s | | S | Ss | Ss | | S | Ss | Ss |
100% less than half whitefur length| Squirrel above, Morning below | L | L | | l | Ll | Ll | | l | Ll | Ll |
100% shorthairManx tail| Squirrel above, Morning below | M | m | | m | Mm | mm | | m | Mm | mm |
50% Manx suppressed tail, 50% regular tail Kitten results in the spoiler below: 1. Wasp
- A short-haired cream mackerel tabby and white tom, with a Manx tail. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, Mm
2. Lilac
- A short-haired blue mackerel tabby and white tom. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, o., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, mm
3. Bee
- A short-haired cream mackerel tabby and white tom. He carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, O., dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, mm
4. Lichen
- A short-haired blue-cream and white torbie she-cat, with a Manx tail. She carries classic tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, AA, Mcmc, Ss, Ll, Mm They're all perfect <3 Thank you so much!! |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 27, 2016 11:11:27 GMT -5
It's no problem!! ^^
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Post by Jackalstep on Aug 27, 2016 16:22:01 GMT -5
Mother cat: Finchstorm Shorthaired brown mackerel torbie she-cat. She carries the genes for dilution, solid color, and long hair. Father cat: Skunkfur Longhaired black-and-white tom. The white is distributed on his paws, chest, belly, muzzle, and tail tip. He carries the genes for dilution and no white spotting. He is homozygous for mackerel tabby. Do you want a hypothetical litter, or just the possibilities? Hypothetical litter, but no names please. Four kits. Enter the password: crab-plover Nice touch using solid red to carry non-agouti! Punnet Square results in the spoiler below: brown-based color| Skunk above, Finch below | B | B | | B | BB | BB | | B | BB | BB |
100% black based brownred/orange color| Skunk above, Finch below | o | . | | O | Oo | O. | | o | oo | o. |
25% torty (f), 25% non-red (f), 25% red (m), 25% non-red (m)dilute| Skunk above, Finch below | D | d | | D | DD | Dd | | d | Dd | dd |
75% non-dilute, 25% diluteagouti (tabby)| Skunk above, Finch below | a | a | | A | Aa | Aa | | a | aa | aa |
50% non-agouti (solid), 50% agouti (tabby)tabby pattern (mackerel vs classic)| Skunk above, Finch below | Mc | Mc | | Mc | McMc | McMc | | Mc | McMc | McMc |
100% mackerel tabbywhitespotting| Skunk above, Finch below | S | s | | s | Ss | ss | | s | Ss | ss |
50% less than half white, 50% no whitefur length| Skunk above, Finch below | l | l | | L | Ll | Ll | | l | ll | ll |
50% short-haired, 50% long-haired Kitten results in the spoiler below: 1. Kit One
- A long-haired red mackerel tabby tom. He carries dilute and heterozygous agouti.
- genotype: BB, O., Dd, Aa, McMc, ss, ll
2. Kit Two
- A long-haired black she-cat with white. She carries mackerel tabby and dilute.
- genotype: BB, oo, Dd, aa, McMc, Ss, ll
3. Kit Thre
- A short-haired blue-cream mackerel torbie she-cat. She carries heterozygous agouti and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, Oo, dd, Aa, McMc, ss, Ll
4. Kit Four
- A short-haired black she-cat. She carries mackerel tabby and long-haired genes.
- genotype: BB, oo, DD, aa, McMc, ss, Ll Thanks, I love them! Do you mind if the kits pop up in a fanfic at some future point? |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 27, 2016 19:18:17 GMT -5
I don't mind! I was actually hoping to be a good service for writers, whether it's RP, fanfic, or comics. ^^ It'd be cool to see the finished product!
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Post by Jackalstep on Aug 28, 2016 17:02:54 GMT -5
They will be minor characters, 'cause I didn't want to post any of my main couples that aren't actually together yet, but they will definitely show up in one of my fics in the future!
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