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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 17:34:52 GMT -5
Who doesn't want a main character, ex or current, to become leader or deputy? Like Bristlefrost, Ivypool, Lionblaze, etc. It seems to be the standard of how things are done Bramblestar became leader, Squirrelflight became deputy, Crowfeather became deputy, Tawnypelt was deputy for a little while. Not only is it a given, for an important character to get a position of power, but their personality could change, or be lost all together.
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Feb 20, 2020 18:25:53 GMT -5
I would love Stemleaf. He's got good morals and is willing to risk being exiled for what he believes is right. I'm not too keen on the idea of Bristlestar atm, she just seems too naïve and slightly gullible, Lionblaze would be just awful, and as much as I love Ivypool, I don't want her character ruined if she becomes leader, similar to the Onewhisker/Onestar situation. I see where you're coming from though, but TBC is shaping up for Squirrelstar and Bristlefrost as deputy, which is fine by me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 18:27:50 GMT -5
I would love Stemleaf. He's got good morals and is willing to risk being exiled for what he believes is right. I'm not too keen on the idea of Bristlestar atm, she just seems too naïve and slightly gullible, Lionblaze would be just awful, and as much as I love Ivypool, I don't want her character ruined if she becomes leader, similar to the Onewhisker/Onestar situation. I see where you're coming from though, but TBC is shaping up for Squirrelstar and Bristlefrost as deputy, which is fine by me. I wouldn't be opposed to Stemleaf, he is a little young though, but who knows, there could be a time jump in TBC lol
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Post by Moonblazer on Feb 20, 2020 18:49:13 GMT -5
I would really like Molewhisker as leader if that was the case, I enjoyed him alot in AvOS and he seems both bold and responsible. I think he would be a solid choice.
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Post by Woofzie on Feb 20, 2020 18:52:04 GMT -5
Just no Rosestar, Bumblestar, Blossomstar, Thornstar, Ivystar or Berrystar, please. I'm keen to give anyone else a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 18:56:04 GMT -5
MoonblazerMolewhisker is my top choice for ThunderClan's leader as well, he's the right age for it, like he's not ancient, but he's also not straight out of the apprentice's den. He's also shown that he knows how to compromise, and get along with other clans, when at first he didn't want to, which shows great growth for his character. I remember him also being really patient with Alderheart for the short time he was his mentor WoofzieAll of those characters are pretty hot-headed, so that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen lol I agree 100%
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:04:33 GMT -5
Most of us really want to see a Rosestar I want Ivystar, but Rosestar works too Not me, they're too impulsive and hot-tempered IMO, but to each their own I guess
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 20, 2020 19:06:59 GMT -5
i wouldnt mind ivystar tbh
i just really hope berrystar doesnt happen
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:09:06 GMT -5
i wouldnt mind ivystar tbh i just really hope berrystar doesnt happen Oh gosh, can you imagine? I wonder if he'd do something to make ShadowClan pay for what they did to him as a kit? Though, the only cat in that patrol who is alive still is Oakfur. I wonder if he'd also do something to punish the Dark Forest trainees, or if he's moved on from that.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 20, 2020 19:12:06 GMT -5
i wouldnt mind ivystar tbh i just really hope berrystar doesnt happen Oh gosh, can you imagine? I wonder if he'd do something to make ShadowClan pay for what they did to him as a kit? Though, the only cat in that patrol who is alive still is Oakfur. I wonder if he'd also do something to punish the Dark Forest trainees, or if he's moved on from that. i just dont want berrystar bc he'd be a terrible leader. he's too hot-headed and doesn't strike me as very intelligent
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:13:04 GMT -5
Oh gosh, can you imagine? I wonder if he'd do something to make ShadowClan pay for what they did to him as a kit? Though, the only cat in that patrol who is alive still is Oakfur. I wonder if he'd also do something to punish the Dark Forest trainees, or if he's moved on from that. i just dont want berrystar bc he'd be a terrible leader. he's too hot-headed and doesn't strike me as very intelligent True
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Post by Fireleap on Feb 20, 2020 20:47:58 GMT -5
I don't mind it too much, but it would be nice to have a non-POV character as the leader. In that case I'd want Rosestar.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 20, 2020 20:48:59 GMT -5
I want Squirrelstar with Rosepetal deputy Or Rosestar with Lilyheart or Stemleaf deputy
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 20, 2020 21:19:26 GMT -5
I don't care if they were a main character in the past, but I just don't want Lionblaze as deputy or leader.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 21, 2020 1:14:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if Ivypool, Molewhisker, or Lilyheart. I feel like these three have shown to have leadership qualities at some point or another and actually have interesting personalities.
I don't care for Stemleaf, Rosepetal, both are annoying or boring to me, and I definitely don't want Berrynose now. So much wasted potential with him, I still like him but I'm just very disappointed in him in the recent books.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 21, 2020 8:44:20 GMT -5
The reason why I'd prefer a character that's at least somewhat relevant is that it explains WHY they were chosen. If Rosepetal or...idk any other random background Thunderclan cat is chosen, it feels like the role is just being drawn out of a hat and is utterly pointless. If a character's accomplishments aren't memorable whatsoever, by what merit do they deserve such a role?
Stemleaf would be a good choice if one doesn't want a POV character because he actually does do important things like defy faker Bramble and help to organize the resistance.
Anyway, so long as Squirrelflight dies I'll be satisfied. Squirrelstar will be a mess.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 10:43:00 GMT -5
The reason why I'd prefer a character that's at least somewhat relevant is that it explains WHY they were chosen. If Rosepetal or...idk any other random background Thunderclan cat is chosen, it feels like the role is just being drawn out of a hat and is utterly pointless. If a character's accomplishments aren't memorable whatsoever, by what merit do they deserve such a role? Stemleaf would be a good choice if one doesn't want a POV character because he actually does do important things like defy faker Bramble and help to organize the resistance. Anyway, so long as Squirrelflight dies I'll be satisfied. Squirrelstar will be a mess. That's true, I mean, I wouldn't want some random cat, who has barely had any screen-time, like Hollytuft, but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of Stemleaf, but my number one choice for leader of ThunderClan would be Molewhisker. I can't really think of anyone else who I'd want to be the next leader of ThunderClan at the moment. What would be wrong with Squirrelflight being leader? I don't disagree with you by the way, I'm just curious to see your reasonings.
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Post by cowbird on Feb 21, 2020 11:18:52 GMT -5
Ivypool would a great choice as the next leader. Squirrelflight and her generation have had enough screen time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:28:06 GMT -5
Ivypool would a great choice as the next leader. Squirrelflight and her generation have had enough screen time. I agree about Squirrelflight and her generation having enough screentime. She and Bramblestar have had more screentime than the OG Firestar. Like, they've been SUPER relevant in every single arc. The New Prophecy, they both had POVS The Power of Three, they were believed to be the parents of the main characters Omen of the Stars, well, that's just The Power of Three: The Extended Version AVOS, their son was a main character, sadly though, he was overshone by Violetshine and Twigbranch Now, in The Broken Code, They're super relevant again, and Squirrelflight is probably going to get a POV...oh joy.
As for Ivypool being leader, I don't really get the appeal, I'm sorry, but I don't
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:38:04 GMT -5
Please don’t end me but I’d rather not have Squirrelflight become leader... she’s been through enough in just one life. Crowstar isn’t a very ideal leader option to me either. I agree 100% on both points.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 21, 2020 12:25:16 GMT -5
The reason why I'd prefer a character that's at least somewhat relevant is that it explains WHY they were chosen. If Rosepetal or...idk any other random background Thunderclan cat is chosen, it feels like the role is just being drawn out of a hat and is utterly pointless. If a character's accomplishments aren't memorable whatsoever, by what merit do they deserve such a role? Stemleaf would be a good choice if one doesn't want a POV character because he actually does do important things like defy faker Bramble and help to organize the resistance. Anyway, so long as Squirrelflight dies I'll be satisfied. Squirrelstar will be a mess. That's true, I mean, I wouldn't want some random cat, who has barely had any screen-time, like Hollytuft, but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of Stemleaf, but my number one choice for leader of ThunderClan would be Molewhisker. I can't really think of anyone else who I'd want to be the next leader of ThunderClan at the moment. What would be wrong with Squirrelflight being leader? I don't disagree with you by the way, I'm just curious to see your reasonings. Not only is Squirrelflight as old as Methuselah, but it seemed like she was promoted more as an apology than anything else. I'm also not a fan of the idea of mates dying only for their near equally old mates to be leaders afterwards, it just doesn't make any logical sense(especially when she's angsting about her old age in Squirrelflight's Hope). Furthermore, I feel like without Bramble she'd have very little to do. It's the same problem Bramble had of becoming an ineffectual toolbox as leader but magnified because they can't even throw in lover's spats anymore to keep her interesting.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 21, 2020 12:33:24 GMT -5
i agree that squirrelstar probably wouldn't be a good idea but she'd be better than bramblestar imo, i just wish that entire generation would die off already bc they're all older than Joe Biden at this point
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Feb 21, 2020 12:53:54 GMT -5
Tbh, I’m fine with, Stemstar, Squirrelstar, or Bristlestar. Molewhisker isn’t relevant and lacks any kind of character that makes him an interesting character. I can’t really remember him. He hasn’t really got any qualities that, well, make him a better option than other candidates. But that’s just my opinion. Squirrelflight has proven to be reckless multiple times, she can be hot headed and stubborn, but despite that, she does what’s best for people around her, and what she thinks is justified. To balance out her feisty side, I’m thinking Bristlefrost. She’s sweet, loyal, mature and similarly to Squirrelflight, they don’t blindly follow the belief that other clans are worthless. I doubt Bramblestar’s coming back, which is fine by me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 13:30:14 GMT -5
Tbh, I’m fine with, Stemstar, Squirrelstar, or Bristlestar. Molewhisker isn’t relevant and lacks any kind of character that makes him an interesting character. I can’t really remember him. He hasn’t really got any qualities that, well, make him a better option than other candidates. But that’s just my opinion. Squirrelflight has proven to be reckless multiple times, she can be hot headed and stubborn, but despite that, she does what’s best for people around her, and what she thinks is justified. To balance out her feisty side, I’m thinking Bristlefrost. She’s sweet, loyal, mature and similarly to Squirrelflight, they don’t blindly follow the belief that other clans are worthless. I doubt Bramblestar’s coming back, which is fine by me. I think Molewhisker's great from the little we've seen of him, he was pretty patient with Alderheart when he was his mentor, and even though he didn't agree with SkyClan coming back, he still went on that journey, and ended up treating them like his own clanmates. He actually reminds me a lot of Brackenfur, but with some spice lol The only bad thing I can think about him, was when he and Cherryfall tricked the Dark Forest trainees when they were apprentices. But I mean, his parents are Berrynose and Poppyfrost, and they were super against the Dark Forest trainees, also, Cherryfall's mentor died because of that battle.
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Post by platinum blond death on Feb 21, 2020 14:54:46 GMT -5
Cats I'd be fine with becoming leader: Ivypool Rosepetal Cherryfall Molewhisker Stemleaf Poppyfrost Whitewing Mousewhisker
Cats I don't want to become leader: Berrynose - too arrogant, a bit rude
Idk man: Lionblaze
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 15:18:08 GMT -5
Cats I'd be fine with becoming leader: Ivypool Rosepetal Cherryfall Molewhisker Stemleaf Poppyfrost Whitewing Mousewhisker Cats I don't want to become leader: Berrynose - too arrogant, a bit rude Idk man: Lionblaze Mousewhisker as leader would be HILARIOUS I love Mousewhisker, but that boy isn't too bright, and he's really accident prone. I honestly think Hazeltail got all the brains in that litter XD I just imagined a scene, where he's sitting on the leader tree at the gathering, and accidentally falls off, and lands on one of the deputies down below (preferably Crowfeather) but it'd probably be the ThunderClan deputy.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 21, 2020 15:20:15 GMT -5
Ivypool would a great choice as the next leader. Squirrelflight and her generation have had enough screen time. I agree about Squirrelflight and her generation having enough screentime. She and Bramblestar have had more screentime than the OG Firestar. Like, they've been SUPER relevant in every single arc. The New Prophecy, they both had POVS The Power of Three, they were believed to be the parents of the main characters Omen of the Stars, well, that's just The Power of Three: The Extended Version AVOS, their son was a main character, sadly though, he was overshone by Violetshine and Twigbranch Now, in The Broken Code, They're super relevant again, and Squirrelflight is probably going to get a POV...oh joy.
As for Ivypool being leader, I don't really get the appeal, I'm sorry, but I don't People want Ivystar for quite a few reasons. She's already had a POV, so we've seen her from her kithood and up. She's had plenty of screentime and development as a character in general. She's turned out to be a great mate, mother, and mentor. She's shown leadership skills in the DF, her own Clan, and last minute situations. She's a good fighter, good hunter, and good with strategies. She's shown to have good morality, but doesn't mind making tough choices. She's been relatively relevant in the story, even though she's no longer a protag. She's also at a really good age range for choice, not too old or too young. She's also not too closely related to Firestar as well, she's his Great-great niece.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 15:37:37 GMT -5
I agree about Squirrelflight and her generation having enough screentime. She and Bramblestar have had more screentime than the OG Firestar. Like, they've been SUPER relevant in every single arc. The New Prophecy, they both had POVS The Power of Three, they were believed to be the parents of the main characters Omen of the Stars, well, that's just The Power of Three: The Extended Version AVOS, their son was a main character, sadly though, he was overshone by Violetshine and Twigbranch Now, in The Broken Code, They're super relevant again, and Squirrelflight is probably going to get a POV...oh joy.
As for Ivypool being leader, I don't really get the appeal, I'm sorry, but I don't People want Ivystar for quite a few reasons. She's already had a POV, so we've seen her from her kithood and up. She's had plenty of screentime and development as a character in general. She's turned out to be a great mate, mother, and mentor. She's shown leadership skills in the DF, her own Clan, and last minute situations. She's a good fighter, good hunter, and good with strategies. She's shown to have good morality, but doesn't mind making tough choices. She's been relatively relevant in the story, even though she's no longer a protag. She's also at a really good age range for choice, not to old or too young. She's also not too closely related to Firestar as well, she's his Great-great niece. Those are all really good points. Ivypool probably wouldn't be a bad leader at all, I guess I'm still judging her from the time she almost had, would have, killed an already dead medicine cat, who did nothing to her. And then she actually did kill the soul of Antpelt, and didn't he help her out a few chapters before that? I know she was doing it to protect herself, so she wouldn't be exposed, so she could eventually help her clan, but it still doesn't really sit right with me. I'll probably get some hate for this, but that's just my opinion, I really like Ivypool, but still, she literally killed a cat out of existence. But, maybe that just shows that she does have good leadership qualities, because she's willing to do whatever it takes to help out her clan. Now I'm conflicted.
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