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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 8:11:53 GMT -5
Why do a lot of people think these guys were in love with each other? Did I miss something?
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Post by Pineclaw on Feb 20, 2020 8:20:07 GMT -5
No idea. Maybe because Brightpaw was the only one who agreed with Swiftpaw's idiotic plan. I can't really think of anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 8:23:19 GMT -5
No idea. Maybe because Brightpaw was the only one who agreed with Swiftpaw's idiotic plan. I can't really think of anything else. That makes sense
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Post by Pineclaw on Feb 20, 2020 8:36:16 GMT -5
No idea. Maybe because Brightpaw was the only one who agreed with Swiftpaw's idiotic plan. I can't really think of anything else. That makes sense I hope that's sarcasm xD Okay, sure, characters have been shipped with each other for even less than this but it's still weird. But then again Brightheart was pretty sensible and reasonable as an apprentice. So I guess it was a little strange for her to be the only one to follow Swiftpaw. I still don't think that's a good enough reason to assume they were in love. There's one think I really hate about this pairing. Now, people can hate Cloudtail if they want. While he's one of my favorites, I can think of many reason why people would dislike him. But hating him because he 'stole Brightheart from Swiftpaw'? Seriously? Yup, I've seen shippers like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 8:39:51 GMT -5
I hope that's sarcasm xD Okay, sure, characters have been shipped with each other for even less than this but it's still weird. But then again Brightheart was pretty sensible and reasonable as an apprentice. So I guess it was a little strange for her to be the only one to follow Swiftpaw. I still don't think that's a good enough reason to assume they were in love. There's one think I really hate about this pairing. Now, people can hate Cloudtail if they want. While he's one of my favorites, I can think of many reason why people would dislike him. But hating him because he 'stole Brightheart from Swiftpaw'? Seriously? Yup, I've seen shippers like that. No, I meant it makes sense why that would be the reason why you think people ship them lol Yeah, I agree, it's ridiculous
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 14:33:01 GMT -5
No, you didn't miss anything.
And I don't know why people think that Swiftpaw and Brightheart were in love. The books didn't show they were in love, so I doubt they were.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 14:36:24 GMT -5
No, you didn't miss anything. And I don't know why people think that Swiftpaw and Brightheart were in love. The books didn't show they were in love, so I doubt they were. It was probably from one of those "unknown facts"
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 15:06:00 GMT -5
No, you didn't miss anything. And I don't know why people think that Swiftpaw and Brightheart were in love. The books didn't show they were in love, so I doubt they were. It was probably from one of those "unknown facts" Probably.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 15:07:33 GMT -5
It was probably from one of those "unknown facts" Probably. Imagine if it is real, and when Brightheart goes to StarClan, she chooses Swiftpaw, that'd be a huge what the heck moment
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 15:11:46 GMT -5
Imagine if it is real, and when Brightheart goes to StarClan, she chooses Swiftpaw, that'd be a huge what the heck moment Yep. Cloudtail would probably freak out if he knew.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 15:15:13 GMT -5
Imagine if it is real, and when Brightheart goes to StarClan, she chooses Swiftpaw, that'd be a huge what the heck moment Yep. Cloudtail would probably freak out if he knew. Wait a minute, can Cloudtail even go to StarClan? If not, then this could actually be a legit possibility if Brightheart was in love with Swiftpaw. I guess she'd just be like, "Alright kits, meet your new father!" Then they'd be all like, "Uhh, what?!" I'm just kidding, Brightheart would never do that
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 16:08:24 GMT -5
Yep. Cloudtail would probably freak out if he knew. Wait a minute, can Cloudtail even go to StarClan? If not, then this could actually be a legit possibility if Brightheart was in love with Swiftpaw. I guess she'd just be like, "Alright kits, meet your new father!" Then they'd be all like, "Uhh, what?!" I'm just kidding, Brightheart would never do that I dunno. It'd be ridiculous if he still doesn't believe in StarClan and can't join them when he dies, since StarClan joined in the battle against the Dark Forest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 16:11:40 GMT -5
Wait a minute, can Cloudtail even go to StarClan? If not, then this could actually be a legit possibility if Brightheart was in love with Swiftpaw. I guess she'd just be like, "Alright kits, meet your new father!" Then they'd be all like, "Uhh, what?!" I'm just kidding, Brightheart would never do that I dunno. It'd be ridiculous if he still doesn't believe in StarClan and can't join them when he dies, since StarClan joined in the battle against the Dark Forest. I read somewhere that he and Mothwing thought they were just fighting rogues during the Dark Forest x StarClan battle, which made no sense to me, since cats that they both knew when they were alive, and then died, were there I never understood Cloudtail not believing in StarClan, he wasn't even weaned yet whenever he joined the clans, and I don't think Princess told him not to believe in StarClan in the very short amount of time he was with her
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 16:48:25 GMT -5
I dunno. It'd be ridiculous if he still doesn't believe in StarClan and can't join them when he dies, since StarClan joined in the battle against the Dark Forest. I read somewhere that he and Mothwing thought they were just fighting rogues during the Dark Forest x StarClan battle, which made no sense to me, since cats that they both knew when they were alive, and then died, were there I never understood Cloudtail not believing in StarClan, he wasn't even weaned yet whenever he joined the clans, and I don't think Princess told him not to believe in StarClan in the very short amount of time he was with her Guess they're a bit like ShadowClan. Not very sharp. I understood why they would not believe before the battle, but after? Not really.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 16:53:35 GMT -5
I read somewhere that he and Mothwing thought they were just fighting rogues during the Dark Forest x StarClan battle, which made no sense to me, since cats that they both knew when they were alive, and then died, were there I never understood Cloudtail not believing in StarClan, he wasn't even weaned yet whenever he joined the clans, and I don't think Princess told him not to believe in StarClan in the very short amount of time he was with her Guess they're a bit like ShadowClan. Not very sharp. I understood why they would not believe before the battle, but after? Not really. I can understand Mothwing, she was older than Cloudtail when she joined RiverClan, and she witnessed her brother faking an omen. But yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't after that battle, but apparently something that happened in AVOS or something led Mothwing to believe in StarClan again
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 17:11:49 GMT -5
Guess they're a bit like ShadowClan. Not very sharp. I understood why they would not believe before the battle, but after? Not really. I can understand Mothwing, she was older than Cloudtail when she joined RiverClan, and she witnessed her brother faking an omen. But yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't after that battle, but apparently something that happened in AVOS or something led Mothwing to believe in StarClan again Something did. But it's been a while since I read AVOS, so I don't remember what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 17:19:54 GMT -5
I can understand Mothwing, she was older than Cloudtail when she joined RiverClan, and she witnessed her brother faking an omen. But yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't after that battle, but apparently something that happened in AVOS or something led Mothwing to believe in StarClan again Something did. But it's been a while since I read AVOS, so I don't remember what it was. Was it ever even mentioned what it was?
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Post by halogen on Feb 20, 2020 17:29:48 GMT -5
I dunno. It'd be ridiculous if he still doesn't believe in StarClan and can't join them when he dies, since StarClan joined in the battle against the Dark Forest. I read somewhere that he and Mothwing thought they were just fighting rogues during the Dark Forest x StarClan battle, which made no sense to me, since cats that they both knew when they were alive, and then died, were there I never understood Cloudtail not believing in StarClan, he wasn't even weaned yet whenever he joined the clans, and I don't think Princess told him not to believe in StarClan in the very short amount of time he was with her Cloudtail is just a contrarian who feels that if the Clans are going to treat him as a kitty pet why should be bother following their rules, why not question them instead. He wasn't taught that, his natural personality and being treated differently from the others (not to mention regularly visiting Princess and being acquainted with that other life without the instinctual revulsion the other cats had) left him caring much less about the typical Clan rules and beliefs. With Mothwing, she is younger than Cloudtail and might have genuinely not ran into anyone that she knew. As long as Hawkfrost was elsewhere the whole time, she wouldn't have recognized any of the other cats. (And now I'm picturing Mothwing during the battle, maybe doing some fighting herself at times, (since she did train as a warrior), and attacking some cat who is all like "Hey, I'm your dad, Tigerstar", and she is like "yeah, right, you totally aren't just trying to get me to stop attacking you".
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 20, 2020 17:31:16 GMT -5
Something did. But it's been a while since I read AVOS, so I don't remember what it was. Was it ever even mentioned what it was? Probably not. There could be something in The Broken Code, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 17:36:24 GMT -5
halogenThat makes sense As for Mothwing not running into anyone she knew, what about Mudfur? *Ravenpaw*I wouldn't be surprised
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 20, 2020 18:17:43 GMT -5
One thing that's always kinda annoyed me about shipping is that two characters of different genders can't just be friends without getting paired up together.
Brightheart actually has an entire short story dedicated to her and Swiftpaw in Secrets of the Clans that talks about how she went with him to prove themselves ready of being warriors and from what I remember, nowhere does it mention her having feelings for him before his death.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 18:23:48 GMT -5
One thing that's always kinda annoyed me about shipping is that two characters of different genders can't just be friends without getting paired up together. Brightheart actually has an entire short story dedicated to her and Swiftpaw in Secrets of the Clans that talks about how she went with him to prove themselves ready of being warriors and from what I remember, nowhere does it mention her having feelings for him before his death. I've actually read that one! I agree, that's why I asked the question in the first place, because I've seen a lot of people say they hate Cloudtail, and hope that Brightheart chooses Swiftpaw up in StarClan, and stuff like that
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 20, 2020 19:12:55 GMT -5
i think she probably had a crush on him but idk why the fandom thinks it would have been a serious thing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:13:57 GMT -5
i think she probably had a crush on him but idk why the fandom thinks it would have been a serious thing I'm beginning to think it's more of a hatred of Cloudtail that fuels that ship, rather than Swiftpaw and Brightheart themselves
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 20, 2020 20:01:09 GMT -5
i think she probably had a crush on him but idk why the fandom thinks it would have been a serious thing I'm beginning to think it's more of a hatred of Cloudtail that fuels that ship, rather than Swiftpaw and Brightheart themselves there are people who dont like cloudbright?? wth
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 20:05:09 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think it's more of a hatred of Cloudtail that fuels that ship, rather than Swiftpaw and Brightheart themselves there are people who dont like cloudbright?? wth Yeah, it shocks me too, but it could be because of the Daisy thing.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 20, 2020 20:47:37 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think it's more of a hatred of Cloudtail that fuels that ship, rather than Swiftpaw and Brightheart themselves there are people who dont like cloudbright?? wth I feel like a lot of people who ship SwiftBright also ship CloudBright though too. There was that recent MAP that seemed pretty pro-both.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 21:30:00 GMT -5
there are people who dont like cloudbright?? wth I feel like a lot of people who ship SwiftBright also ship CloudBright though too. There was that recent MAP that seemed pretty pro-both. Really? That's great ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif)
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Feb 20, 2020 22:06:14 GMT -5
I feel like a lot of people who ship SwiftBright also ship CloudBright though too. There was that recent MAP that seemed pretty pro-both. Really? That's great ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Here it is if you want to watch it. I personally like both ships.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 22:14:14 GMT -5
Really? That's great ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) Here it is if you want to watch it. I personally like both ships. Thanks ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/lNtnPuxeCzkaKMNYVXVv.gif) I love Cloudtail x Brightheart, it's one of my favorite pairings in the series. As for Swiftpaw x Brightheart, I don't really like Swiftpaw, so yeah lol
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