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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 18:33:26 GMT -5
Out of Windflight's sons, Tawnyspots, Thrushpelt, and Thistleclaw, who did you like the best?
I think I'm going to go with Tawnyspots, even though he didn't have much screen time. The little time he did appear in the books though, he was shown to be a very kind and level headed deputy, he didn't want to attack WindClan, and he gave Bluestar a pep talk after her sister was killed. I just think he was a very great cat, and it sucks that he died so horribly (I think his death was said to be very slow and painful)
Thrushpelt's a really great cat too, I love how much he cared for Bluestar's kits, even though they weren't his own, and he's also a very kind cat, I just like Tawnyspots a little bit more.
Thistleclaw is...Thistleclaw
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Post by Cloud on Feb 9, 2020 18:39:54 GMT -5
Thrushpelt was a good guy, and I enjoyed reading about him and how much he cared about Bluestar. He went above and beyond for them, even when he knew they weren't his. I personally have a headcanon that Bluestar eventually told him the truth after they'd both gone to StarClan, and that the two are still really close friends.
Tawnyspots wasn't a bad cat, but I feel like I didn't really see enough of him to really compare him to anyone else. I'm glad you like him though!
Thistleclaw is disgusting and I refuse to even entertain the topic of that nasty cat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 18:42:51 GMT -5
Thrushpelt was a good guy, and I enjoyed reading about him and how much he cared about Bluestar. He went above and beyond for them, even when he knew they weren't his. I personally have a headcanon that Bluestar eventually told him the truth after they'd both gone to StarClan, and that the two are still really close friends. Tawnyspots wasn't a bad cat, but I feel like I didn't really see enough of him to really compare him to anyone else. I'm glad you like him though! Thistleclaw is disgusting and I refuse to even entertain the topic of that nasty cat. I agree about Thrushpelt, it was a little strange though how he was in love with her for more than a year, despite her not returning his feelings, but at least he didn't go all Ashfur or something. He's still a fantastic cat though, it's just sad that he and Tawnyspots never had kits, and only Thistleclaw did...but at least Thistleclaw's son turned out to be the amazing Whitestorm. As for Tawnyspots not having any kits, he was Darkstripe's father before Redtail's Debt retconned that, and I guess having no kits is better than having a Darkstripe.
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Post by Cloud on Feb 9, 2020 18:50:00 GMT -5
Thrushpelt was a good guy, and I enjoyed reading about him and how much he cared about Bluestar. He went above and beyond for them, even when he knew they weren't his. I personally have a headcanon that Bluestar eventually told him the truth after they'd both gone to StarClan, and that the two are still really close friends. Tawnyspots wasn't a bad cat, but I feel like I didn't really see enough of him to really compare him to anyone else. I'm glad you like him though! Thistleclaw is disgusting and I refuse to even entertain the topic of that nasty cat. I agree about Thrushpelt, it was a little strange though how he was in love with her for more than a year, despite her not returning his feelings, but at least he didn't go all Ashfur or something. He's still a fantastic cat though, it's just sad that he and Tawnyspots never had kits, and only Thistleclaw did...but at least Thistleclaw's son turned out to be the amazing Whitestorm. As for Tawnyspots not having any kits, he was Darkstripe's father before Redtail's Debt retconned that, and I guess having no kits is better than having a Darkstripe. Well, you can love someone and genuinely wish for their happiness without actively pursing them. I think that's one of the good things they did with Thrushpelt, honestly. Unrequited feelings are definitely a nasty thing to deal with (been there, done that), and Thrushpelt always being there for Bluefur, even after she had Oakheart's kits, is an excellent example of the correct way to handle rejection and the blunt realization that not everyone is going to reciprocate your feelings, no matter how much you want them to. Also, yes, no kits is definitely better than having a coward like Darkstripe.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 9, 2020 18:54:00 GMT -5
Thrushpelt! He's not my favorite character since I thought his character was lacking, but he was still a really sweet cat in general. I don't really care much for Tawnyspots (in fact, I barely remember him in terms of personality) and I really can't stand Thistleclaw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 18:56:36 GMT -5
I agree about Thrushpelt, it was a little strange though how he was in love with her for more than a year, despite her not returning his feelings, but at least he didn't go all Ashfur or something. He's still a fantastic cat though, it's just sad that he and Tawnyspots never had kits, and only Thistleclaw did...but at least Thistleclaw's son turned out to be the amazing Whitestorm. As for Tawnyspots not having any kits, he was Darkstripe's father before Redtail's Debt retconned that, and I guess having no kits is better than having a Darkstripe. Well, you can love someone and genuinely wish for their happiness without actively pursing them. I think that's one of the good things they did with Thrushpelt, honestly. Unrequited feelings are definitely a nasty thing to deal with (been there, done that), and Thrushpelt always being there for Bluefur, even after she had Oakheart's kits, is an excellent example of the correct way to handle rejection and the blunt realization that not everyone is going to reciprocate your feelings, no matter how much you want them to. Also, yes, no kits is definitely better than having a coward like Darkstripe. That's true, I've been through an unrequited feelings situation before, but I was on the other side of it, someone liked me, and I didn't like them back, and after that, they started being really mean to me, and all this stuff, but it's eh, whatever. I actually think Darkstripe is the furthest thing from a coward, but that's just my opinion...he's a TERRIBLE cat with no morals, but he's not a coward, at least not me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 18:58:26 GMT -5
Thrushpelt! He's not my favorite character since I thought his character was lacking, but he was still a really sweet cat in general. I don't really care much for Tawnyspots (in fact, I barely remember him in terms of personality) and I really can't stand Thistleclaw. I thought he was a sweet cat too, and I really wish he could have been around in The Prophecy Begins as an elder
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Post by platinum blond death on Feb 9, 2020 19:52:43 GMT -5
Thrushpelt by far! Tawnyspots seemed nice and all, but I never saw too much of him. Thrushpelt, however, was a sweet baby that didn't have to help Bluestar with her kits, but he did! Even though she didn't like him back, he was more than willing to help her out. That just makes me go "d'awwwww." I'm a sucker for sweet bois.
Thistleclaw is a pos and deserves to rot. Screw him, never really cared for him even before that book came out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 20:07:42 GMT -5
Thrushpelt by far! Tawnyspots seemed nice and all, but I never saw too much of him. Thrushpelt, however, was a sweet baby that didn't have to help Bluestar with her kits, but he did! Even though she didn't like him back, he was more than willing to help her out. That just makes me go "d'awwwww." I'm a sucker for sweet bois. Thistleclaw is a pos and deserves to rot. Screw him, never really cared for him even before that book came out. Thrushpelt was amazing, and he has one of my favorite designs in the series. I think he's the only cat to be described as sandy grey (there could be more, but I can't think of them ATM) As for Thistleclaw, I never liked him either, he was a complete tool in Bluestar's Prophecy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 21:39:16 GMT -5
Windflight had very interesting kits, who led variously different lives. I really like that. As for the poll...I picked Thrushpelt, too, like almost everyone else. He was just a sweet guy, not to mention he had a good heart. In another life, perhaps he and Bluestar would've fallen in love and would've made a great couple. Thrushpelt might have been a strong support system for her throughout her leadership, while giving her a regular's warrior perspective and reassurance, like Sandstorm did for Firestar. I agree I really like Oakheart and I think he and Bluestar are super cute together, but Thrushpelt would have been really great for her as well.
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 9, 2020 22:38:47 GMT -5
Love Thrushpelt, Like Thistleclaw (I'm the only one here that does I guess), could care less about Tawnyspots tbh.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 10, 2020 12:35:08 GMT -5
Thrushpelt gets my vote. :3 Though Tawnyspots isn't too bad. Thistleclaw is the worst. Not to mention a horribly written villain, too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 12:39:52 GMT -5
Thrushpelt gets my vote. :3 Though Tawnyspots isn't too bad. Thistleclaw is the worst. Not to mention a horribly written villain, too. Agreed...he isn't even tough, like, he acts like he's the best fighter in the world, but it seems like he usually gets other cats to do his fighting for him. Maybe he fought more when he was in The Dark Forest, I don't know, I didn't really pay much attention to him in Omen of the Stars
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 10, 2020 14:05:38 GMT -5
Thrushpelt gets my vote. :3 Though Tawnyspots isn't too bad. Thistleclaw is the worst. Not to mention a horribly written villain, too. Agreed...he isn't even tough, like, he acts like he's the best fighter in the world, but it seems like he usually gets other cats to do his fighting for him. Maybe he fought more when he was in The Dark Forest, I don't know, I didn't really pay much attention to him in Omen of the Stars He's more arrogant and a brat. I don't think he ever loved Snowfur, either. I remember he might have said that she was weak or something like that in Crookedstar's Promise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 14:08:07 GMT -5
Agreed...he isn't even tough, like, he acts like he's the best fighter in the world, but it seems like he usually gets other cats to do his fighting for him. Maybe he fought more when he was in The Dark Forest, I don't know, I didn't really pay much attention to him in Omen of the Stars He's more arrogant and a brat. I don't think he ever loved Snowfur, either. I remember he might have said that she was weak or something like that in Crookedstar's Promise. Their relationship did see a bit one-sided, because in Bluestar's Prophecy, Snowfur was always the one wanting to hang out with Thistleclaw...but who knows? He might have loved her, we don't really see their relationship from his or Snowfur's perspective. I agree about him being an arrogant brat
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 10, 2020 14:30:58 GMT -5
He's more arrogant and a brat. I don't think he ever loved Snowfur, either. I remember he might have said that she was weak or something like that in Crookedstar's Promise. Their relationship did see a bit one-sided, because in Bluestar's Prophecy, Snowfur was always the one wanting to hang out with Thistleclaw...but who knows? He might have loved her, we don't really see their relationship from his or Snowfur's perspective. I agree about him being an arrogant brat I hope he had at least had some feelings for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 14:34:52 GMT -5
Their relationship did see a bit one-sided, because in Bluestar's Prophecy, Snowfur was always the one wanting to hang out with Thistleclaw...but who knows? He might have loved her, we don't really see their relationship from his or Snowfur's perspective. I agree about him being an arrogant brat I hope he had at least had some feelings for her. Me too
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 10, 2020 17:53:20 GMT -5
Their relationship did see a bit one-sided, because in Bluestar's Prophecy, Snowfur was always the one wanting to hang out with Thistleclaw...but who knows? He might have loved her, we don't really see their relationship from his or Snowfur's perspective. I agree about him being an arrogant brat He's more arrogant and a brat. I don't think he ever loved Snowfur, either. I remember he might have said that she was weak or something like that in Crookedstar's Promise. Except he did love her, even if he is arrogant, that doesn't make him completely incapable of love. Idk why people are saying and actually believing that Thistleclaw didn't love Snowfur, literally only those that hate him I've seen say that when it was pretty clear in CrP when he was in the DF he was upset about the fact that she died, and made a fuss about their newborn son even to the point of dropping everything to see him in BP. He didn't go off the deep end until after she died. Him calling his son "soft" like his mother isn't even accurate in of itself and is actually ironic because Snowfur would literally not hesitate to kill a man the moment she had the chance and has shown to be very impulsive and aggressive during her time of living from the very moment she was young to her death. It was a very "rose-tinted glasses" sort of thing to come from him in hindsight, similar to how she wore those rose-tinted glasses with him. If he didn't love her, he wouldn't have even wasted his time with her. Seriously. Don't claim Thistleclaw didn't love Snowfur just because you despise him. The relationship was NOT one-sided, they loved each other genuinely, and it's stupid to believe otherwise when it's all right in BP. Literally the only way you can see it in BP as negative is if you really believed Bluefur's shitty biased PoV (She even wishes Snowfur would get with someone that BLUEFUR liked, she didn't care how selfish that was to think either, she didn't like Snowfur's choice in mate because it was someone she didn't even like.) You can hate him all you want, but don't make up stuff that isn't true just because you despise the character that much to the point you believe it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 18:58:32 GMT -5
BrindlefernCan you chill out? Not everyone has to see things from the same perspective as you. You can have your opinion, but you don't have to be rude to other people for having theirs
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 10, 2020 18:59:55 GMT -5
Brindlefern Can you chill out? Not everyone has to see things from the same perspective as you. You can have your opinion, but you don't have to be rude to other people for having theirs I'm not even mad???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 19:05:18 GMT -5
Brindlefern Can you chill out? Not everyone has to see things from the same perspective as you. You can have your opinion, but you don't have to be rude to other people for having theirs I'm not even mad??? Well, you basically called the opinion that *Ravenpaw* and I have stupid, and you sure did write a long paragraph for someone who isn't even mad.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Feb 10, 2020 19:11:05 GMT -5
I do want to point out that the relationship has a right to be debated. Thistleclaw insulted Snowfur and Whitestorm in CP. He could have pulled a Tigerclaw for all we know.
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 10, 2020 19:18:46 GMT -5
Well, you basically called the opinion that *Ravenpaw* and I have stupid, and you sure did write a long paragraph for someone who isn't even mad. It was a rant. Sorry for getting aggressive in a rant I guess. =.=
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 10, 2020 19:26:04 GMT -5
I do want to point out that the relationship has a right to be debated. Thistleclaw insulted Snowfur and Whitestorm in CP. He could have pulled a Tigerclaw for all we know. To add onto this, even if he did genuinely love them, this doesn't mean he didn't value strength more. Even the worst of criminals have loved ones, after all. And even when he was younger, he was still pretty bratty.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 10, 2020 23:37:18 GMT -5
Their relationship did see a bit one-sided, because in Bluestar's Prophecy, Snowfur was always the one wanting to hang out with Thistleclaw...but who knows? He might have loved her, we don't really see their relationship from his or Snowfur's perspective. I agree about him being an arrogant brat He's more arrogant and a brat. I don't think he ever loved Snowfur, either. I remember he might have said that she was weak or something like that in Crookedstar's Promise. Except he did love her, even if he is arrogant, that doesn't make him completely incapable of love. Idk why people are saying and actually believing that Thistleclaw didn't love Snowfur, literally only those that hate him I've seen say that when it was pretty clear in CrP when he was in the DF he was upset about the fact that she died, and made a fuss about their newborn son even to the point of dropping everything to see him in BP. He didn't go off the deep end until after she died. Him calling his son "soft" like his mother isn't even accurate in of itself and is actually ironic because Snowfur would literally not hesitate to kill a man the moment she had the chance and has shown to be very impulsive and aggressive during her time of living from the very moment she was young to her death. It was a very "rose-tinted glasses" sort of thing to come from him in hindsight, similar to how she wore those rose-tinted glasses with him. If he didn't love her, he wouldn't have even wasted his time with her. Seriously. Don't claim Thistleclaw didn't love Snowfur just because you despise him. The relationship was NOT one-sided, they loved each other genuinely, and it's stupid to believe otherwise when it's all right in BP. Literally the only way you can see it in BP as negative is if you really believed Bluefur's shitty biased PoV (She even wishes Snowfur would get with someone that BLUEFUR liked, she didn't care how selfish that was to think either, she didn't like Snowfur's choice in mate because it was someone she didn't even like.) You can hate him all you want, but don't make up stuff that isn't true just because you despise the character that much to the point you believe it. 1. I'd appreciate it if you didn't call my opinion stupid. 2. Like chickenfriedchicken said, chill out. Even if you weren't mad when you replied, it certainly looked like you were. 3. So I hate Thistleclaw. Big deal. Bias aside, maybe he did love her for a time, but he did call Snowfur and Whitestorm soft. It doesn't matter if he was grieving and such. At that point, it's debatable. 4. I did NOT make up stuff. I was saying what I thought, that's all. -_-
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Post by Sand on Feb 11, 2020 1:07:07 GMT -5
Opinions... Here's a reminder if you forgot that it's pinned near the top of WG. Brindlefern - Whether it's an "aggressive rant" or a "rant," please do not slander other members' opinions. Calling it "stupid" is a form of slander as is telling someone that they are "making stuff up." I'm not sure if you meant to come across as aggressive or angry in your post, but that is how it is read. Word choice is important and so is the way you emphasize words in your comment. Do your best to chill out or take a step back if something you see in a post rubs you the wrong way. & co. - It's best to not be rude back to each other just because one person decides to dish it. Being rude isn't going to get you anywhere or improve the situation. Though it's annoying, irritating, and possibly upsetting, it's likely that you stay calm, explain briefly in what we'd read as a calm tone, then report & move on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 9:07:20 GMT -5
SandI'm really sorry I lost my temper, I'll try to be less combative in the future
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Post by KittyClearsight on Feb 11, 2020 10:25:25 GMT -5
Thrushpelt is best boy and nobody can convince me otherwise <3 I loved his character.
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 11, 2020 12:07:12 GMT -5
FFs I already said sorry jeez. x.x
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