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Post by sylveon on Jan 31, 2020 23:54:48 GMT -5
I don't get why Ashfur would do this. Shadowsight is in no way related to Squirrelflight directly. What quarrel would Ashfur have with him, apart from maybe Shadowsight failing him, as Ashfur relied on him for visions and codebreaking-related things and maybe he failed to deliver? But still, since when would Ashfur ever harm cats not related to/important to Squirrelflight? Did he just go the Mapleshade-route in StarClan? Seems like that to me. I mean, Dovewing is Squirrel's cousin through Whitewing, but it's amazing that the cats remembered Dove was related to Firestar at all. He would also be technically half-ThunderClan? My guess is it's going to be some sort of set up to accuse a ThunderClan cat of code breaking, if not one of the ones already accused. Shadowsight also openly defied Framblestar by saying he didn't believe his codebreaker vision came from StarClan. My first impression was he's trying to silence the cat with some of the most influence as a medicine cat and use it to twist the narrative.
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Post by Woofzie on Feb 1, 2020 0:22:16 GMT -5
I don't get why Ashfur would do this. Shadowsight is in no way related to Squirrelflight directly. What quarrel would Ashfur have with him, apart from maybe Shadowsight failing him, as Ashfur relied on him for visions and codebreaking-related things and maybe he failed to deliver? But still, since when would Ashfur ever harm cats not related to/important to Squirrelflight? Did he just go the Mapleshade-route in StarClan? Seems like that to me. Maybe because Shadowsight received the "codebreakers" omen and now he's figured out it didin't came from StarClan. With that information in his paws, Shadowsight is a direct danger towards the importer's (Ashfur) plans. It's just a supposition, tho.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Feb 1, 2020 1:29:11 GMT -5
I understand Keatrelflight being upset about not seeing StarClan, but this isn't really out of character for Willowshine. Imo she's always been kind of unpleasant.
Shadow didn't deserve that...what will his parents think when they find him? Or whoever finds him?
What if that cat is leaving his body open for possession in the future? *Chews fingernail*
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 1, 2020 1:33:37 GMT -5
I...wow. I'm speechless right now. I was not at all expecting this. Shadowsight dead? By the third book? Seriously?!
Okay, shock aside, I highly doubt he is going to stay dead, if he is at all. He's simply too important of a character to kill off like that.
Nice to see Spiresight again. Looks like he's going to be important moving forward, especially since he's not in StarClan.
Big burly tom? Definitely Bramblefake.
I'm really starting to get tired of the mc's squabbling all the time. Rootpaw just showed them proof and they really just sat there and argued over it. Oh, and nice ageism there Kestrelflight.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 1, 2020 1:40:46 GMT -5
I don't get why Ashfur would do this. Shadowsight is in no way related to Squirrelflight directly. What quarrel would Ashfur have with him, apart from maybe Shadowsight failing him, as Ashfur relied on him for visions and codebreaking-related things and maybe he failed to deliver? But still, since when would Ashfur ever harm cats not related to/important to Squirrelflight? Did he just go the Mapleshade-route in StarClan? Seems like that to me. Because he's a loose end that needs to be tied up. If Ashfur is the voice, or the accomplice was, then Shadowsight could have ruined all of his plans. So silencing him and getting him out of the way is beneficial to him in the long run if he wants this all to go off without a hitch. Especially because f Shadowkit's visions, they could help overthrow him. So I don't think this attack was a personal vendetta (sorta) but he was quick to dispatch him after luring him out, and killing him, that's a planned assassination.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Feb 1, 2020 1:59:31 GMT -5
Kestrelflight turned into Jayfeather at some point and I love it.
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Post by Frozen on Feb 1, 2020 15:50:37 GMT -5
Holy crap, that was brutal and I wasn't expecting Shadowsight to go out that quickly...
I think he'll come back at some point, but there's no way he should survive that. Very interesting Erins, can't wait to see how the rest of the book goes.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Feb 2, 2020 1:33:06 GMT -5
Holy heck Wow, I was REALLY not expecting Shadowsight to die. Especially right at the end of the 2nd book. I’m a bit worried on how they go forward with this though. I’m not sure how I would feel if they just trash his POV and we only ever see him when he’s hanging around with Rootpaw and Tree. However, if they still keep Shadow’s POV this arc has the potential of becoming my 2nd favorite. It would be really awesome having one of the main characters be a ghost, and I would love every second of it. ...Dang, it’s been YEARS since I’ve actually been excited for a Warriors book coming out. I hope the rest of the arc is as good as the first two books are.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 2, 2020 8:10:47 GMT -5
Why is Squirrelflight listed under Exiled Cats in the allegiances rather than as a member of ShadowClan? Because she's only taking refuge n ShadowClan, she's not really a member of ShadowClan.
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Post by barberz on Feb 2, 2020 16:23:18 GMT -5
After reading that I'm actually pretty happy that he died, reason being he'll more than likely return as a ghost, which means we get to see a ghost's pov. I'm betting you that the second chapter is him waking up as a ghost, because he isn't coming back alive from that.
I also have a theory about a couple of things. First off, I think to possess a cat, they need to be a leader with lives. Reason being, a warrior dies, and their spirit goes elsewhere. But with a leader, they die and then their spirit goes up to Starclan and then back down. I'm guessing that if they know how, another spirit can take over the body of that cat.
Secondly, I'm betting that when they find Shadowsights' body they will bring it to the Moonpool and if there is Starclan, then they can heal his body, so long as they have his spirit. Just some thoughts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by halogen on Feb 2, 2020 18:09:38 GMT -5
After reading that I'm actually pretty happy that he died, reason being he'll more than likely return as a ghost, which means we get to see a ghost's pov. I'm betting you that the second chapter is him waking up as a ghost, because he isn't coming back alive from that.
I also have a theory about a couple of things. First off, I think to possess a cat, they need to be a leader with lives. Reason being, a warrior dies, and their spirit goes elsewhere. But with a leader, they die and then their spirit goes up to Starclan and then back down. I'm guessing that if they know how, another spirit can take over the body of that cat.
Secondly, I'm betting that when they find Shadowsights' body they will bring it to the Moonpool and if there is Starclan, then they can heal his body, so long as they have his spirit. Just some thoughts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I would be really annoyed if you could just bring back dead cats my now as long as you go to the Moonpool. The Tigerstar thing only worked because he was the deputy and his leader was dead, making him eligible to get nine lives (and he still lost one, so his death didn't get undone. Just making it so death isn't an issue anymore would be so contrived and infuriating.
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Post by Hawkflower on Feb 2, 2020 19:09:53 GMT -5
Part of me still does not believe he’s dead, so that’s what I’m hoping for.
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Feb 3, 2020 7:18:05 GMT -5
Well, here is a theory on how Shadowsight could be revived (which won't happen anyway). What if Tigerheartstar transfers one or two of his remaining lives to Shadowsight?
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Post by finland on Feb 3, 2020 9:06:59 GMT -5
I was a believer that Hollyleaf was still alive after she went into the tunnels and I shall be a believers that Shadowsight is still alive.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 3, 2020 15:45:14 GMT -5
I was a believer that Hollyleaf was still alive after she went into the tunnels and I shall be a believers that Shadowsight is still alive. Very good point. Not to mention that Sparkpelt just survived being mauled by dogs.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Feb 4, 2020 12:51:54 GMT -5
Other than what Spiresight was thinking, there’s no specific confirmation that Shadowsight is dead. So he could still be alive, but gravely injured. I’m kind of hoping the whole resurrection thing doesn’t happen again. It just feels cheap to do that, especially when it’s never come up before someone got the nine lives aside from Tigerheart (although Windstar is debatable) and takes the punch out of something that’s normally very serious.
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Post by Jaysnow on Feb 4, 2020 22:35:08 GMT -5
What a rollercoaster. Deputy: Berrynose has got to be the worst thing ever.
Spiresight prologue, what a great surprise. Not surprised he isn't staying in StarClan either. The writing for this is super chilling. Ashfurstar is super scary. Crazy that they went off and killed Shadowsight like that in book two. This arc is fresh as heck.
Rootpaw for Chapter 1! I'm surprised they're not all more worried about Shadowsight, and wow, Kestrelfight being kind of a prick.
The writing in this book is so good, and really dark and scary. I can't wait for the rest.
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Post by Spinestar on Feb 4, 2020 22:38:18 GMT -5
I don't get why Ashfur would do this. Shadowsight is in no way related to Squirrelflight directly. What quarrel would Ashfur have with him, apart from maybe Shadowsight failing him, as Ashfur relied on him for visions and codebreaking-related things and maybe he failed to deliver? But still, since when would Ashfur ever harm cats not related to/important to Squirrelflight? Did he just go the Mapleshade-route in StarClan? Seems like that to me. Maybe because Shadowsight received the "codebreakers" omen and now he's figured out it didin't came from StarClan. With that information in his paws, Shadowsight is a direct danger towards the importer's (Ashfur) plans. It's just a supposition, tho. Right, but killing? I mean we now know he indeed did it, but still that’s beyond Ashfur, killing a cat not related to Squirrelflight...[/spolier]
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Post by Spinestar on Feb 4, 2020 22:39:35 GMT -5
What a rollercoaster. Deputy: Berrynose has got to be the worst thing ever. Spiresight prologue, what a great surprise. Not surprised he isn't staying in StarClan either. The writing for this is super chilling. Ashfurstar is super scary. Crazy that they went off and killed Shadowsight like that in book two. This arc is fresh as heck. Rootpaw for Chapter 1! I'm surprised they're not all more worried about Shadowsight, and wow, Kestrelfight being kind of a prick. The writing in this book is so good, and really dark and scary. I can't wait for the rest. Maybe Berrynose doesn’t know Ashfur killed him. I think he was the other cat who screamed to distract Shadowsight on Ashfur’s orders
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