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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 21:04:58 GMT -5
Not pay attention to the names of the individual books in a series?
I am going to name all the book names I do know, or that I think I know without looking it up
Like, I know in The Prophecy Begins
Book One: Into the Wild
Book Two: Fire and Ice
I think there's a book called The Darkest Night, but I'm not sure what number it is
The New Prophecy
Book One: Midnight
I think there's also Sunrise and I think maybe Moonlight?
The Power of Three
Book One: The Sight
I think there's also a Dark River too in this series
Omen of the Stars
Book One: The First Apprentice
Book Six: The Last Hope
A Vision of Shadows
Book One: The Apprentice's Quest
I think there's also, River of Fire, Shattered Sky, Thunder and Shadow (Maybe?), that's all I know
Dawn of the Clans
Book One: The Sun Trial
Also, Path of Stars, The Blazing Flower?, A Forest Divided, The First Battle, Forest of Secrets?
Yeah, as you can probably tell, I don't pay much attention to the individual names of the books
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Post by Skypaw13 on Dec 24, 2019 21:23:18 GMT -5
With near 100 books in the series, it's not exactly relevant as long as you know arc titles, and roughly when in the series events take place.
I've found Po3 titles easier to remember since each book is fairly self-contained; like, each one has its own plot that's not related to the rest, which I like, and also makes the titles stand out more. I also tend to have a really strong memory with physical books, so I tend to remember all the other arcs' book titles too. The only one I can't remember is AVoS because I read them all on mobile, and it's hard when I don't have physical copies I'm reading.
That being said, I am going to correct your titles:
Arc 1: Into the Wild, Fire and Ice are both correct. Darkest Night is in AVoS, and you're likely thinking of The Darkest Hour, which is book 6 in arc 1. (Rising Storm is in this arc as well, but there's a book in AVoS called The Raging Storm. I know, it's confusing.)
Arc 2: Midnight is correct. Sunrise is in Po3, and you're thinking of Sunset, which is book 6 in this arc. Moonlight doesn't exist, you're thinking of Moonrise.
Arc 3: Yep, you're right. Dark River is book 2.
Arc 4: The Last Hope is right. The First Apprentice is actually The Fourth Apprentice.
Arc 6: All of your titles are correct, they're just in the wrong order.
DotC: Path of Stars, A Forest Divided, and The First Battle are all correct, just not in that order (I myself can never remember the order, I haven't read this series). The other books are The Sun Trail (which you were very close, could have been a typo), and The Blazing Star. Forest of Secrets is in arc 1.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 21:27:20 GMT -5
With near 100 books in the series, it's not exactly relevant as long as you know arc titles, and roughly when in the series events take place. I've found Po3 titles easier to remember since each book is fairly self-contained; like, each one has its own plot that's not related to the rest, which I like, and also makes the titles stand out more. I also tend to have a really strong memory with physical books, so I tend to remember all the other arcs' book titles too. The only one I can't remember is AVoS because I read them all on mobile, and it's hard when I don't have physical copies I'm reading. That being said, I am going to correct your titles: Arc 1: Into the Wild, Fire and Ice are both correct. Darkest Night is in AVoS, and you're likely thinking of The Darkest Hour, which is book 6 in arc 1. ( Rising Storm is in this arc as well, but there's a book in AVoS called The Raging Storm. I know, it's confusing.) Arc 2: Midnight is correct. Sunrise is in Po3, and you're thinking of Sunset, which is book 6 in this arc. Moonlight doesn't exist, you're thinking of Moonrise. Arc 3: Yep, you're right. Dark River is book 2. Arc 4: The Last Hope is right. The First Apprentice is actually The Fourth Apprentice. Arc 6: All of your titles are correct, they're just in the wrong order. DotC: Path of Stars, A Forest Divided, and The First Battle are all correct, just not in that order (I myself can never remember the order, I haven't read this series). The other books are The Sun Trail (which you were very close, could have been a typo), and The Blazing Star. Forest of Secrets is in arc 1. Thanks  Did I write The Sun Trial again? I kept misspelling it when I looked up the allegiances to do the Google Translate with the names yesterday lol I had no idea that so many books were so similarly named but in different arcs |
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Post by Skypaw13 on Dec 24, 2019 21:37:12 GMT -5
With near 100 books in the series, it's not exactly relevant as long as you know arc titles, and roughly when in the series events take place. I've found Po3 titles easier to remember since each book is fairly self-contained; like, each one has its own plot that's not related to the rest, which I like, and also makes the titles stand out more. I also tend to have a really strong memory with physical books, so I tend to remember all the other arcs' book titles too. The only one I can't remember is AVoS because I read them all on mobile, and it's hard when I don't have physical copies I'm reading. That being said, I am going to correct your titles: Arc 1: Into the Wild, Fire and Ice are both correct. Darkest Night is in AVoS, and you're likely thinking of The Darkest Hour, which is book 6 in arc 1. ( Rising Storm is in this arc as well, but there's a book in AVoS called The Raging Storm. I know, it's confusing.) Arc 2: Midnight is correct. Sunrise is in Po3, and you're thinking of Sunset, which is book 6 in this arc. Moonlight doesn't exist, you're thinking of Moonrise. Arc 3: Yep, you're right. Dark River is book 2. Arc 4: The Last Hope is right. The First Apprentice is actually The Fourth Apprentice. Arc 6: All of your titles are correct, they're just in the wrong order. DotC: Path of Stars, A Forest Divided, and The First Battle are all correct, just not in that order (I myself can never remember the order, I haven't read this series). The other books are The Sun Trail (which you were very close, could have been a typo), and The Blazing Star. Forest of Secrets is in arc 1. Thanks Did I write The Sun Trial again? I kept misspelling it when I looked up the allegiances to do the Google Translate with the names yesterday lol I had no idea that so many books were so similarly named but in different arcs I know, I find it really frustrating at times too. Sunset and Sunrise, The Fourth Apprentice and The Apprentice's Quest, The Darkest Hour and Darkest Night, Rising Storm and The Raging Storm... Honestly, AVoS just needed a different person on the titling team (Though Shattered Sky is an amazing title). I also love Sunrise as a title for what it is, but I hate Sunset, that one's a bad title. I would say the big ones to remember are Into the Wild, The Darkest Hour, Sunrise, Night Whispers, The Last Hope, Shattered Sky, The Raging Storm, Lost Stars, and The Silent Thaw (though those last two will likely fade out as time goes on). Those are the titles people bring up the most on this site, at least from what I've seen. And for various reasons too, like Night Whispers is not important at all, but people bring it up a lot to trash on it, same thing with the Raging Storm. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 22:01:12 GMT -5
Thanks Did I write The Sun Trial again? I kept misspelling it when I looked up the allegiances to do the Google Translate with the names yesterday lol I had no idea that so many books were so similarly named but in different arcs I know, I find it really frustrating at times too. Sunset and Sunrise, The Fourth Apprentice and The Apprentice's Quest, The Darkest Hour and Darkest Night, Rising Storm and The Raging Storm... Honestly, AVoS just needed a different person on the titling team (Though Shattered Sky is an amazing title). I also love Sunrise as a title for what it is, but I hate Sunset, that one's a bad title. I would say the big ones to remember are Into the Wild, The Darkest Hour, Sunrise, Night Whispers, The Last Hope, Shattered Sky, The Raging Storm, Lost Stars, and The Silent Thaw (though those last two will likely fade out as time goes on). Those are the titles people bring up the most on this site, at least from what I've seen. And for various reasons too, like Night Whispers is not important at all, but people bring it up a lot to trash on it, same thing with the Raging Storm. I like the title Night Whispers, it makes me think of that awesome ShadowClan cat, Nightwhisper, who used to be this bad rogue named Mowgli, and he tried to kill Firestar, but then got bit in the tail by Thornpaw? Then, he turned good. Why don't you like Sunset? |
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Post by Skypaw13 on Dec 25, 2019 3:30:07 GMT -5
I know, I find it really frustrating at times too. Sunset and Sunrise, The Fourth Apprentice and The Apprentice's Quest, The Darkest Hour and Darkest Night, Rising Storm and The Raging Storm... Honestly, AVoS just needed a different person on the titling team (Though Shattered Sky is an amazing title). I also love Sunrise as a title for what it is, but I hate Sunset, that one's a bad title. I would say the big ones to remember are Into the Wild, The Darkest Hour, Sunrise, Night Whispers, The Last Hope, Shattered Sky, The Raging Storm, Lost Stars, and The Silent Thaw (though those last two will likely fade out as time goes on). Those are the titles people bring up the most on this site, at least from what I've seen. And for various reasons too, like Night Whispers is not important at all, but people bring it up a lot to trash on it, same thing with the Raging Storm. I like the title Night Whispers, it makes me think of that awesome ShadowClan cat, Nightwhisper, who used to be this bad rogue named Mowgli, and he tried to kill Firestar, but then got bit in the tail by Thornpaw? Then, he turned good. Why don't you like Sunset? I haven't read Sunset in a really long time, but I just feel like it's a title that's trying so hard to fit with the rest of the series that it doesn't make sense on its own. Someone on this site pointed out that while Midnight, Moonrise, and Dawn all have climaxes that take place during their respective time of day, Sunset's climax takes place at sunrise. It's also just an iffy book in general, and I feel like "sunset" doesn't really describe the themes of the book or series as well as it should. Honestly, I don't really like any of The New Prophecy titles other than Dawn. They all feel like they're trying to push a theme that's not really there, and they're not even in order. *spoiler contains a useless rant about TNP* The books go Midnight, Moonrise, Dawn, Starlight, Twilight, Sunset. Looking at times of day, and based off Vicky's statements that she was trying to go for a "traveling through the darkest hours of the night" vibe, the order is sunset, twilight, moonrise, midnight, and dawn, which isn't even close to the same. Even in the original trilogy, why is it Midnight, Moonrise, Dawn, and not Dusk, Midnight, Dawn, or something similar? Moonrise comes before midnight. I don't know, this is just a rant I've been wanting to get off my chest. Starlight isn't even a time of day, it doesn't fit. I just dislike these titles, man. XD
I like Dawn because it has strong symbolism in the book itself. When the Clans arrive at the lake, it's a new era in Clan history, the dawn of a new day, if you will. (Like arc 5 being called DAWN of the Clans). In addition to that, the book closes at dawn. It really feels like none of the others except MAYBE Midnight have that sort of power. Compare Sunset to Sunrise, which while generally a happy word, takes on a whole different meaning after the book's end. The climax takes place at dawn, and Lionblaze and Jayfeather end up sadly watching the sunrise to close out the book. Jayfeather's POV has a beautiful line ("How can the sun rise today, after everything that's happened?") that title drops and really ties together the emotional battle that's been going for the last two books. I believe that Sunrise is the best title they could have used, and I disagree strongly with people who say Cruel Season (the book's original title) would have been better. Oh, and I didn't mean people were trashing on Night Whispers as a title, they trash on the book itself. I really like the title too. I really enjoyed the book as well, but it is absolutely a mess, so I don't blame people for not liking it. I didn't know there was a cat named Nightwhisper. That's pretty wild. XD |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 8:55:35 GMT -5
I like the title Night Whispers, it makes me think of that awesome ShadowClan cat, Nightwhisper, who used to be this bad rogue named Mowgli, and he tried to kill Firestar, but then got bit in the tail by Thornpaw? Then, he turned good. Why don't you like Sunset? I haven't read Sunset in a really long time, but I just feel like it's a title that's trying so hard to fit with the rest of the series that it doesn't make sense on its own. Someone on this site pointed out that while Midnight, Moonrise, and Dawn all have climaxes that take place during their respective time of day, Sunset's climax takes place at sunrise. It's also just an iffy book in general, and I feel like "sunset" doesn't really describe the themes of the book or series as well as it should. Honestly, I don't really like any of The New Prophecy titles other than Dawn. They all feel like they're trying to push a theme that's not really there, and they're not even in order. *spoiler contains a useless rant about TNP* The books go Midnight, Moonrise, Dawn, Starlight, Twilight, Sunset. Looking at times of day, and based off Vicky's statements that she was trying to go for a "traveling through the darkest hours of the night" vibe, the order is sunset, twilight, moonrise, midnight, and dawn, which isn't even close to the same. Even in the original trilogy, why is it Midnight, Moonrise, Dawn, and not Dusk, Midnight, Dawn, or something similar? Moonrise comes before midnight. I don't know, this is just a rant I've been wanting to get off my chest. Starlight isn't even a time of day, it doesn't fit. I just dislike these titles, man. XD
I like Dawn because it has strong symbolism in the book itself. When the Clans arrive at the lake, it's a new era in Clan history, the dawn of a new day, if you will. (Like arc 5 being called DAWN of the Clans). In addition to that, the book closes at dawn. It really feels like none of the others except MAYBE Midnight have that sort of power. Compare Sunset to Sunrise, which while generally a happy word, takes on a whole different meaning after the book's end. The climax takes place at dawn, and Lionblaze and Jayfeather end up sadly watching the sunrise to close out the book. Jayfeather's POV has a beautiful line ("How can the sun rise today, after everything that's happened?") that title drops and really ties together the emotional battle that's been going for the last two books. I believe that Sunrise is the best title they could have used, and I disagree strongly with people who say Cruel Season (the book's original title) would have been better. Oh, and I didn't mean people were trashing on Night Whispers as a title, they trash on the book itself. I really like the title too. I really enjoyed the book as well, but it is absolutely a mess, so I don't blame people for not liking it. I didn't know there was a cat named Nightwhisper. That's pretty wild. XD Oh wow  That's really interesting, I never really thought of the book titles like that (then again, I never pay much attention to them to begin with lol) Here's Nightwhisper, he only appears in Forest of Secrets, Tigerclaw's Fury, and Battles of the Clans  |
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Post by springfoot on Dec 25, 2019 13:13:57 GMT -5
eh i dont pay attention to them either. Maybe its because i havent read the series in a while though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 13:17:04 GMT -5
eh i dont pay attention to them either. Maybe its because i havent read the series in a while though I just finished reading Dawn of the Clans a couple of days ago, and I already forgot some of the titles |
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Post by Hawkflower on Dec 25, 2019 18:00:13 GMT -5
I guess I’ve always been good at memorizing the book title since I pretty much know all of them, it’s the content of the books that I tend to forget!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 18:18:18 GMT -5
I guess I’ve always been good at memorizing the book title since I pretty much know all of them, it’s the content of the books that I tend to forget! Same! I only remember like very minute details, mostly about the BG characters. Like, I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Clawface died, but I remembered Brackenfur trying to save Snowkit, not being able to, and later saving Mosskit of ShadowClan in the next series. I remember when Firestar first became leader, Tornear telling him that even though he's young, he'd make a great leader for ThunderClan, but I don't remember his first two apprentices, Runningbrook and Tawnyfur, AT ALL I can remember the times Firestar saved Onewhisker's life. Once when they were crossing the Thunderpath, once during the BloodClan battle, and once when they were traveling to the new territory, I think, and a tree nearly flattened Onewhisker, but Firestar shoved him out of the way, and ended up losing a life as a result. |
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Post by Hawkflower on Dec 25, 2019 18:57:47 GMT -5
I guess I’ve always been good at memorizing the book title since I pretty much know all of them, it’s the content of the books that I tend to forget! Same! I only remember like very minute details, mostly about the BG characters. Like, I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Clawface died, but I remembered Brackenfur trying to save Snowkit, not being able to, and later saving Mosskit of ShadowClan in the next series. I remember when Firestar first became leader, Tornear telling him that even though he's young, he'd make a great leader for ThunderClan, but I don't remember his first two apprentices, Runningbrook and Tawnyfur, AT ALL I can remember the times Firestar saved Onewhisker's life. Once when they were crossing the Thunderpath, once during the BloodClan battle, and once when they were traveling to the new territory, I think, and a tree nearly flattened Onewhisker, but Firestar shoved him out of the way, and ended up losing a life as a result. Wow, that is a ton of detail! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 19:41:08 GMT -5
Same! I only remember like very minute details, mostly about the BG characters. Like, I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Clawface died, but I remembered Brackenfur trying to save Snowkit, not being able to, and later saving Mosskit of ShadowClan in the next series. I remember when Firestar first became leader, Tornear telling him that even though he's young, he'd make a great leader for ThunderClan, but I don't remember his first two apprentices, Runningbrook and Tawnyfur, AT ALL I can remember the times Firestar saved Onewhisker's life. Once when they were crossing the Thunderpath, once during the BloodClan battle, and once when they were traveling to the new territory, I think, and a tree nearly flattened Onewhisker, but Firestar shoved him out of the way, and ended up losing a life as a result. Wow, that is a ton of detail! I guess so lol |
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