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Post by Fireleap on Dec 18, 2019 18:39:39 GMT -5
So I'm on Darkest Night and so far I'm really not liking it. Twigpaw and Alderheart are really getting on my nerves and the over reliance on prophecies has been making this book a chore. So I'm wondering, does this book get better? I'm on Chapter 8 so far. Also wondering if I have anything to look forward to from River of Fire and The Raging Storm, because I've heard those books are less than stellar but I want to get a few more opinions on it.
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Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 18, 2019 18:42:47 GMT -5
The Raging Storm immediately comes to mind for me as the worst AVoS book, followed by Darkest Night, so I get why you're struggling with it. I personally got alot of enjoyment out of RoF.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 22:34:09 GMT -5
I remember really hating River of Fire and needing to put it down at least twice from frustration, which I don't normally do, so thats my least fav
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Dec 19, 2019 16:15:51 GMT -5
The books after the first three are all pretty bad. DK and RoF are boring (especially since we already know what happens from Tigerheart's Shadow) and the plot of TRS only works because some cats (namely Tigerheart) are handed the idiot ball.
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Post by springfoot on Dec 19, 2019 16:47:24 GMT -5
Generally I didn't really enjoy most of AVoS. Aside from Violetshine and Needletail, most of the central characters lacked complexity and were so unbearably boring. Shattered Sky and Thunder and Shadow were the best books, River of Fire was possibly the least satisfactory ending a warrior arc has ever ended on. Its River of Fire for me. I just hate series with shitty endings.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Dec 19, 2019 17:23:00 GMT -5
I can barely remember the individual books but I despise The Raging Storm solely for what they did to my (former) boy Finleap.  |
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*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 19, 2019 22:59:57 GMT -5
Darkest Night, River of Fire, and The Raging Storm needed a plot. I don't think there ever was one, and it was pretty disappointing.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Dec 20, 2019 3:01:48 GMT -5
Darkest Night, River of Fire, and The Raging Storm needed a plot. I don't think there ever was one, and it was pretty disappointing. Summed it up nicely. There are cute moments in all, but a central plot was entirely missing.
DN- Twiggy tries and fails to settle into SkC whereas Violet has no problems
ROF- The book of natural disasters
TRS- Finboy turns into a jerk, SkC is driven out and brought back for the countless time
Each book acts more like a stand-alone than the second half of an arc. DN & ROF have decent plots, but they don't feel connected at all. Probably because ROF had no plot to speak of. There's the ShC problem, but that was downgraded to a minor sideplot in that book.
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 20, 2019 15:10:31 GMT -5
Darkest Night, River of Fire, and The Raging Storm needed a plot. I don't think there ever was one, and it was pretty disappointing. Summed it up nicely. There are cute moments in all, but a central plot was entirely missing.
DN- Twiggy tries and fails to settle into SkC whereas Violet has no problems
ROF- The book of natural disasters
TRS- Finboy turns into a jerk, SkC is driven out and brought back for the countless time
Each book acts more like a stand-alone than the second half of an arc. DN & ROF have decent plots, but they don't feel connected at all. Probably because ROF had no plot to speak of. There's the ShC problem, but that was downgraded to a minor sideplot in that book.
I did like the moments with Fuzzball and Velvet. And Twigbranch finally getting her warrior name. The plot could have easily been Twigbranch and Violetshine learning to live in SkyClan, but nope. We got confused Twig and bratty Violet who couldn't have her sister in the same clan. And RiverClan should have played a bigger role than just cutting themselves off from everyone else. I do agree that the ShadowClan problem seemed like it was a subplot rather than a major one. |
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 20, 2019 21:53:22 GMT -5
The second half of AVOS collectively jockeys for some of the worst books in the series along with some of the more droll TNP books. There is a distinct lack of ANYTHING happening and in a reread with my grandma, it got to the point of just skipping whole chapters because I knew they were pointless filler. The Raging Storm is so bad that I just outright skipped it on the second go and nothing of value is lost beyond more of Tigerstar acting like a wannabe tyrant.
There are basically no redeeming factors to the second half, it's pretty much all of the negative parts of Warriors novels condensed into a black hole of boredom and tedium.
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Post by Brindlefern on Dec 25, 2019 5:14:04 GMT -5
The Raging Storm for me. Characters being OOC, the "Storm" was underwhelming and the reason for it happening when the translation came in was a little what worthy, Tigerheart's an @$$ and unbearable here, etc.
Darkest Night I'm still fine with it not having a plot because I treat it as the "Rising Storm" (From TPB) of AVoS; a.k.a a sorta "cooldown" book that gives you more of a break from all the havoc before the next "big thing" happens. It's the book that, in my eyes, was supposed to give the clans their needed break after everything that went down in Darktail-era, the Skyclan plot is there but it's not really too big a deal compared to what was happening the first three books, Skyclan's dealeo is easily no-doubt cherry pickings compared to the Darktail plot.
Unfortunately for AVoS, that Big Thing doesn't really show up in the final few books after DN. I feel like RoF and TRS could've used another overarching plot after DN, so that when that ends it ends the arc on a bang than a whimper like TRS currently does.
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