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Post by cappuccinokitty on Dec 18, 2019 13:02:39 GMT -5
They can be canon or non canon.
I dislike GrayxMillie. And I know this sounds petty, but it’s mostly because I feel sorry for Millie. She realises that Greystripe is going to pick Silverstream over her in Starclan, even in OOtS there’s a scene w Graystripe & Silverstream, and as they’re speaking about how she will wait for him, Millie is right there! For some reason, it comes off as insensitive and really bothers me.
SpottedFire. Do I need to explain this one? A middle aged woman stalking an apprentices dream, confirms she loves him and wishes his children were hers, years after her death?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:27:20 GMT -5
Squirrelflight x Bramblestar, the only time I've ever seen love exchanged between those two is when Squirrelflight's about to die.
Once in The Power of Three, when she gets a super bad wound, and once in Squirrelflight's Hope.
Leafpool x Crowfeather, this pairing was super lame, I don't understand what Leafpool saw in Crowfeather, not only that, but they broke the rules, and like, what happened to Leafpool's personality?
Also, Jayfeather and Hollyleaf happened.
Yellowfang x Raggedstar, this pairing was sooo lame! Raggedstar had like no respect for Yellowfang, and she was super nosy, and wouldn't let things go, like finding Raggedstar's father or whatever.
Not only that, but their relationship resulted in stupid evil Brokenstar.
Sandgorse x The tunnel, they seemed happy together, but it caused a rift in Tallpaw and Sandgorse's relationship, and in the end, Sandgorse was killed by the tunnel
Nightcloud x Crowfeather, their whole relationship, if you can call it that, sucked, and it resulted in Breezepelt
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Post by whiteflight on Dec 18, 2019 16:31:33 GMT -5
NightxCrow - Always been disliking it since they're both using each other.
SquirrlexBramble - If they didn't argue with each other so much I would have still loved them.
YellowxRagged - Everyone knows why.
DovexTiger - Imo one of the worst ship ever.
SpottedxFire - Everyone knows why.
GrayxSilver - Sure I like this more than GrayxMillie, but reason, why I put this here, is because of how dumb Gray was towards his own clan and to Firestar.
LionxCinder - Very boring and imo wasn't needed at all.
StromxBrook - Bery boring and I still don't understand how they fell for each other.
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Dec 18, 2019 17:52:45 GMT -5
GrayxSilver - Sure I like this more than GrayxMillie, but reason, why I put this here, is because of how dumb Gray was towards his own clan and to Firestar. I 100% agree w this one in particular. Silverstream herself was okay, she was headstrong, stubborn to the extent of not being annoying , maybe naive and a little stupid, but as an individual, she made a decent character. But their relationship really lowered my view of Greystripe on the whole, he was coming across as selfish and unreasonable. It’s nice to get Graystripe development that doesn’t revolve around humour or Silverstream though. |
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Post by springfoot on Dec 19, 2019 16:41:54 GMT -5
StormtailxMoonflower, If that even counts as a relationship. I always assumed that Stormtail had a thing for Dappletail considering they were together in most scenes. Personally, Stormtail was a crap father who cared very little about his mate and kits, even as newborns he is just cold.
TigerDove, partially because I don't particularly like either of the characters anyways, but still think Dovewing deserves better.
BumbleDove. Just a generally pathetic relationship, Bumblestripe should've realized Dovewing didn't see him the say way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 18:17:36 GMT -5
Bramblestar/Squirrelflight: Everything about them is so unstable.
Firestar/Spottedleaf: Obvious reasons.
Crowfeather/Nightcloud: Do I really need to say it?
Whitewing/Birchfall: Where did this come from? They come off more as siblings, not lovers. Plus it gave us Dovewing and Ivypool.
Jayfeather/Half Moon: Jayfeather didn't need a romance arc to help him forgive Leaf and Squirrel. Half Moon doesn't even know who he is.
Lionblaze/Cinderheart: Romance between two pieces of cardboard.
Dovewing/Tigerheart: Another unnecessary forbidden romance plot. It was dragged out for too long as well.
Dovewing/Bumblestripe: The way Dovewing treated him was horrible.
Ivypool/Anyone: She isn't really the romantic type.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Dec 19, 2019 20:58:00 GMT -5
Spottedleaf x Thistleclaw
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 20, 2019 13:41:40 GMT -5
Firestar x Sandstorm: I disliked that they pulled the "I saved you so now you're suddenly in love with me" trope with these two. Honestly, they could have written it much better, and then after the first series, they were kinda shoved to the background. Sandstorm lost most of her personality, and her friendship with Dustpelt pretty much was obliterated. It also annoyed me how everyone but Firestar noticed Sandstorm had feelings for him, and he had to be told blatantly by a third party. Along with the fact he was still seeing Spottedleaf in his dreams, it was just cringefest to me. Then again, I preferred elder Sandstorm compared to the rest of her character. Graystripe x Millie: This honestly should have never been a thing tbh, the way it was written is honestly worse than SandFire. They have Gray thinking, talking and dreaming about Silverstream the entirety of the manga series, then he suddenly has feelings for Millie? They become a thing, and it makes me cringe that they couldn't just stay friends. Their family is so dysfunctional, none of their children are likable imo, and Millie is just a horrible mother all around. Either she spoils her kits rotten and they grow up to be rude furballs, or she neglects them to the point she only smothers one. Not to mention the Erins made it clear that Gray is still very much into Silverstream, so really there was no point for this pairing to be a thing except to introduce another kittypet bloodline. Leafpool x Crowfeather: Utterly underdeveloped, and honestly so left field it was ridiculous. I remembered I had to read TNP twice just to try and figure out where this came from and why (unsurprisingly there was barely anything). The only good thing that came out of it was the drama that happened in POT, and the gathering scene was great. But really that was more of a narrative that was driven by the children and not the parents. So much drama could have been avoided if Crow and Leaf just kept it in their pants. And the fact that neither were even punished really for what they did was kinda dumb. Nightcloud x Crowfeather: Just a bad, if not worse, but Nightcloud deserved better than someone who neglects their child and uses them to seem loyal in the eyes of their clan. Yellowfang x Raggedstar: Easily one of the trashiest unhealthy canon pairings I've ever seen. It really doesn't need much explanation considering how abusively gross it was. And honestly, Yellowfang's SE was already a trainwreck, this just made it worse. Dovewing x Tigerstar II: Never should have happened, the on and off relationship makes me nauseated, and honestly it literally destroyed both their characters to make them unbearably annoying. Dovewing betrayed her clan and is now a trophy wife to a clan leader. While Tigerstar II thinks an illegal relationship was worth his clan falling apart over and losing his father. Just all around yikes. Them being "good" parents doesn't excuse this in my book, and I'm tired of it being shoved down our throats. Lionblaze x Cinderheart: Cinder had more chemistry with Hollyleaf than she did Lionblaze, he's utterly boring. The unnecessary drama, and on and off relationship grinded my gears. The only good thing that came out of them is Fernsong. But imo, Lion doesn't deserve a mate after the way he treated Heather. Stormfur x Brook: Stolkholm Syndrome. Jayfeather x Briarlight: To this day this pairing makes me cringe. Why did the fandom think this was a good idea, I'll never know. I have as much dislike toward this as I do Scourge x Ashfur. I have more but I'll add them later. |
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Post by Fernshiine on Dec 21, 2019 11:17:33 GMT -5
Nightcloud X Feathertail
This ship bothers me since Feathertail is long dead and it's one of those ships that just seem to be made to make Crowfeather look bad. Furthermore, Nightcloud really wanted a life with kits and she pretty much was one of the most loyal cats to her Clan. She also has no way to contact StarClan (seeing as Crowfeather only does this once) since she's a warrior. If anything I can see Crowfeather still being with Feathertail somehow but that's it. I can't see Feathertail ever disliking him either. He was the only cat she loved and she wouldn't be mates with his other mates.
Cinderheart X Lionblaze
I really love Cinderheart as a character. I think she had some potential, at least before Cinderpelt's soul just kinda vanished on her for whatever reason. I don't really get the whole point in that thing but whatever. That's not the focus of this. I really don't like how Lionblaze treated Heathertail after very well being her lover as an apprentice. I feel like he didn't care about much other than her looks, and he's compared Cinderheart to her once or twice. I don't think Lionblaze is the kind of cat who should ever have a mate, even if he loves Cinderheart I still don't like how he treated Heathertail, whether the relationship was forbidden or not. I ship Heathertail with Breezepelt because I think she deserved better than Lionblaze and their relationship developed over the course of two main series arcs as well as a Super Edition. Lionblaze just started swooning on Cinderheart after talking to her twice, which is what he did with Heathertail. I think Jayfeather and Hollyleaf deserved better love lives than their brother.
Hollyleaf X Fallen Leaves
I get that Hollyleaf was alone in the tunnels and Fallen Leaves was the only cat there, yet I can't get past the fact that she was a living cat and he was a ghost. That's just one of the oddest canon relationships I've ever seen. Also she goes to StarCan and doesn't see Fallen Leaves again anyway. When they were alive they couldn't have kits (but I don't think Hollyleaf wanted any, really) if they wanted to and it was odd all the way around. I just found it eerie and awkward, although as friends it seems sweet.
Bramblestar X Squirrelfight
This relationship was very unhealthy from the start. The two always bickered and it seemed like Brambestar had to force himself to respect Squirrelflight sometimes. Squirrelflight used Ashfur as a thing to make Bramblestar jealous as well as a shoulder to cry on. Then they broke up and Bramblestar almost became mates with Jessy (who think he was more compatible with anyway) before pining for Squirrelflight once more. Even if they bonded on the journey I don't think their relationship makes any sense.
Leafpool X Mothwing
This is gonna be controversial but there's a lot I really hate about this fanon ship. One thing is that every AU seems to involve Crowfeather being cruel for no reason or him ending up unhappy and hateful. Another thing is that I can't see Leafpool loving any cat other than Crowfeather, especially out of fear that someone would find out about her breaking the code again. Also the whole "believer and atheist trope" isn't my cup of tea. It's actually really hard to have a relationship with someone who doesn't share your beliefs to begin with, nevermind it being forbidden. At least Leafpool and Crowfeather both believed in StarClan. I really mostly hate how this ship demonizes Crowfeather, though.
I have more but I'm too lazy to write them (Appledusk X Reedshine is a doozy)
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 21, 2019 15:49:33 GMT -5
most of them lol
I'd also like to second ravenpaw's dislike of mothleaf, but for slightly different reasons. i just can't see leafpool liking her, and considering how she handled crowleaf i dont think they would have been a good match anyways. i dont like any pairing with leafpool actually lol
also my least favourite canon pairing used to be crowleaf, but i actually think dovetiger has taken that crown after 2 arcs worth of it being shoved down my throat. at least leafpool actually ended her fling with crowfeather and didn't abandon her family and clan for him long after it should have been over. yikes. i cant believe some fans actually try to argue ivypool was the selfish one in that subplot for not wanting her sister to dump her family over the warriors equivalent of her highschool boyfriend. i REALLY hope the new arc doesn't give it too much focus
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Post by Fernshiine on Dec 21, 2019 16:49:13 GMT -5
most of them lol I'd also like to second ravenpaw's dislike of mothleaf, but for slightly different reasons. i just can't see leafpool liking her, and considering how she handled crowleaf i dont think they would have been a good match anyways. i dont like any pairing with leafpool actually lol also my least favourite canon pairing used to be crowleaf, but i actually think dovetiger has taken that crown after 2 arcs worth of it being shoved down my throat. at least leafpool actually ended her fling with crowfeather and didn't abandon her family and clan for him long after it should have been over. yikes. i cant believe some fans actually try to argue ivypool was the selfish one in that subplot for not wanting her sister to dump her family over the warriors equivalent of her highschool boyfriend. i REALLY hope the new arc doesn't give it too much focus I think there should be a book all about the shock Ivypool went through after her sister just ditched her for ShadowClan. It throws away the development the two got in OOTS, and makes Dovewing look like an idiot and a jerk because she vowed to stick with Ivypool. Now the two have a damaged relationship, if any at all. |
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 21, 2019 17:30:31 GMT -5
most of them lol I'd also like to second ravenpaw's dislike of mothleaf, but for slightly different reasons. i just can't see leafpool liking her, and considering how she handled crowleaf i dont think they would have been a good match anyways. i dont like any pairing with leafpool actually lol also my least favourite canon pairing used to be crowleaf, but i actually think dovetiger has taken that crown after 2 arcs worth of it being shoved down my throat. at least leafpool actually ended her fling with crowfeather and didn't abandon her family and clan for him long after it should have been over. yikes. i cant believe some fans actually try to argue ivypool was the selfish one in that subplot for not wanting her sister to dump her family over the warriors equivalent of her highschool boyfriend. i REALLY hope the new arc doesn't give it too much focus I think there should be a book all about the shock Ivypool went through after her sister just ditched her for ShadowClan. It throws away the development the two got in OOTS, and makes Dovewing look like an idiot and a jerk because she vowed to stick with Ivypool. Now the two have a damaged relationship, if any at all. ivypool novella when |
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 21, 2019 20:56:24 GMT -5
Yellowfang and Raggedstar. - A terrible pairing.
Lionblaze and Cinderheart. - These two were annoying.
Leafpool and Crowfeather. - I have yet to remember why they got together.
Dovewing and Tigerstar II - Second worst pairing, and it shouldn't have happened.
Graystripe and Millie - They should have stayed friends.
Spottedleaf and Firestar - Even though they're not an actual couple, it's just as bad as Thistleclaw and Spottedleaf.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Dec 21, 2019 21:16:23 GMT -5
Star flower and Clear Sky
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Dec 22, 2019 4:33:38 GMT -5
I think there should be a book all about the shock Ivypool went through after her sister just ditched her for ShadowClan. It throws away the development the two got in OOTS, and makes Dovewing look like an idiot and a jerk because she vowed to stick with Ivypool. Now the two have a damaged relationship, if any at all. ivypool novella when Ugh no you’re getting my hopes up! |
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 22, 2019 14:58:53 GMT -5
Star flower and Clear Sky How could I forget this? ^  |
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Dec 22, 2019 23:24:42 GMT -5
Clear Sky × Any cat
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 23, 2019 5:42:15 GMT -5
Star flower and Clear Sky How could I forget this? ^ Imagine rejecting your son as a kit after practically driving his mother away and leading her to her inevitable death, then trying to bond with him later only to show your true colors again and how much of a jerk you are. In the end you end up with your son's ex who had no problem sitting by and letting you be tortured by her father's goons. And against your son's wishes, you still get with her, blatantly in front of him, have kits, and gain plot armor because you're totally excusable for your past options. Why was Star Flower even allowed back?? Cause Clear Sky only thinks without his pants, and he's pretty much worst than Crowfeather at this point. |
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 23, 2019 11:14:56 GMT -5
How could I forget this? ^ Imagine rejecting your son as a kit after practically driving his mother away and leading her to her inevitable death, then trying to bond with him later only to show your true colors again and how much of a jerk you are. In the end you end up with your son's ex who had no problem sitting by and letting you be tortured by her father's goons. And against your son's wishes, you still get with her, blatantly in front of him, have kits, and gain plot armor because you're totally excusable for your past options. Why was Star Flower even allowed back?? Cause Clear Sky only thinks without his pants, and he's pretty much worst than Crowfeather at this point. he IS like crowfeather omg. they both think without their pants, can’t stop taking more mates, treat their kits terribly, and the narrative thinks all the terrible stuff they did is totally okay bc they said sorry or something. the only difference is clear sky was well-written for a few books before the star flower stuff happened and crowfeather always sucked |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 23, 2019 12:35:54 GMT -5
Imagine rejecting your son as a kit after practically driving his mother away and leading her to her inevitable death, then trying to bond with him later only to show your true colors again and how much of a jerk you are. In the end you end up with your son's ex who had no problem sitting by and letting you be tortured by her father's goons. And against your son's wishes, you still get with her, blatantly in front of him, have kits, and gain plot armor because you're totally excusable for your past options. Why was Star Flower even allowed back?? Cause Clear Sky only thinks without his pants, and he's pretty much worst than Crowfeather at this point. he IS like crowfeather omg. they both think without their pants, can’t stop taking more mates, treat their kits terribly, and the narrative thinks all the terrible stuff they did is totally okay bc they said sorry or something. the only difference is clear sky was well-written for a few books before the star flower stuff happened and crowfeather always sucked I think the Erins admitted to Clear Sky being more of a happy accident, he was down right inconsistent, but then you have Crow who was kinda always a jerk. I found more tolerable as an apprentice tbh. |
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 23, 2019 13:44:55 GMT -5
How could I forget this? ^ Imagine rejecting your son as a kit after practically driving his mother away and leading her to her inevitable death, then trying to bond with him later only to show your true colors again and how much of a jerk you are. In the end you end up with your son's ex who had no problem sitting by and letting you be tortured by her father's goons. And against your son's wishes, you still get with her, blatantly in front of him, have kits, and gain plot armor because you're totally excusable for your past options. Why was Star Flower even allowed back?? Cause Clear Sky only thinks without his pants, and he's pretty much worst than Crowfeather at this point. Agreed. Clear Sky was a fine villain until Star Flower. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 14:08:46 GMT -5
Canon
NightCrow - Toxic on both ends. Glad they broke up.
LionCinder/LionHeather - All of LionCinder's drama was a real chore to get through, and their relationship didn't feel developed. I don't like how Lionblaze treated Heathertail and how he was happy that she died brutally in his dreams, ticked me off tbh.
JayHalf - All the time travel stuff was boring and confusing. Relationship wasn't needed and I honestly can't remember their interactions. JayBriar is the real Jayfeather ship
BrambleSquirrel - I've talked enough about them. Unhealthy, should've stayed broken up.
Spottedfire - Ugh.
LeopardPine - Maybe it was because Pinestar's Choice was so short, but it felt like a loveless relationship. He seemed to like Shanty more imo.
GraySilver - Didn't see enough of them to make me really care for the ship. Plus Graystripe turned into a total ignoramus in F&I.
AppleMaple/AppleReed - Appledusk is two-timing trash, both ladies deserved better.
TigerDove - I don't despise this ship like a lot of people do, but we didn't need ANOTHER forbidden romance jc.
Non-canon
NightFeather - What ravenpaw said.
TallReena - I didn't really see it tbh. It seemed like Reena had a thing for Tallstar, but there was no indication that Tallstar liked Reena back (he was quite mean to her after Sandgorse got axed) other than this passing thought that their babies would be strong.
IvyBlossom - Blossomfall was a jerk to Ivypool, and just a jerk in general.
HawkIvy - While an intriguing idea, I just felt like Ivypool was too young for Hawkfrost...? Plus him being a dead evil dude and all.
HawkAsh/AshScourge/HawkScourge - ...What?
BristleRoot - Please Erins not another forbidden couple. I'm begging you here! 
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Dec 23, 2019 14:54:58 GMT -5
Canon
NightCrow - Toxic on both ends. Glad they broke up.
LionCinder/LionHeather - All of LionCinder's drama was a real chore to get through, and their relationship didn't feel developed. I don't like how Lionblaze treated Heathertail and how he was happy that she died brutally in his dreams, ticked me off tbh.
JayHalf - All the time travel stuff was boring and confusing. Relationship wasn't needed and I honestly can't remember their interactions. JayBriar is the real Jayfeather ship
BrambleSquirrel - I've talked enough about them. Unhealthy, should've stayed broken up.
Spottedfire - Ugh.
LeopardPine - Maybe it was because Pinestar's Choice was so short, but it felt like a loveless relationship. He seemed to like Shanty more imo.
GraySilver - Didn't see enough of them to make me really care for the ship. Plus Graystripe turned into a total ignoramus in F&I.
AppleMaple/AppleReed - Appledusk is two-timing trash, both ladies deserved better.
TigerDove - I don't despise this ship like a lot of people do, but we didn't need ANOTHER forbidden romance jc.
Non-canon
NightFeather - What ravenpaw said.
TallReena - I didn't really see it tbh. It seemed like Reena had a thing for Tallstar, but there was no indication that Tallstar liked Reena back (he was quite mean to her after Sandgorse got axed) other than this passing thought that their babies would be strong.
IvyBlossom - Blossomfall was a jerk to Ivypool, and just a jerk in general.
HawkIvy - While an intriguing idea, I just felt like Ivypool was too young for Hawkfrost...? Plus him being a dead evil dude and all.
HawkAsh/AshScourge/HawkScourge - ...What?
BristleRoot - Please Erins not another forbidden couple. I'm begging you here! Agree w IvyBlossom. Blossomfall is just a nasty piece of work. |
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 23, 2019 15:43:45 GMT -5
Canon
NightCrow - Toxic on both ends. Glad they broke up.
LionCinder/LionHeather - All of LionCinder's drama was a real chore to get through, and their relationship didn't feel developed. I don't like how Lionblaze treated Heathertail and how he was happy that she died brutally in his dreams, ticked me off tbh.
JayHalf - All the time travel stuff was boring and confusing. Relationship wasn't needed and I honestly can't remember their interactions. JayBriar is the real Jayfeather ship
BrambleSquirrel - I've talked enough about them. Unhealthy, should've stayed broken up.
Spottedfire - Ugh.
LeopardPine - Maybe it was because Pinestar's Choice was so short, but it felt like a loveless relationship. He seemed to like Shanty more imo.
GraySilver - Didn't see enough of them to make me really care for the ship. Plus Graystripe turned into a total ignoramus in F&I.
AppleMaple/AppleReed - Appledusk is two-timing trash, both ladies deserved better.
TigerDove - I don't despise this ship like a lot of people do, but we didn't need ANOTHER forbidden romance jc.
Non-canon
NightFeather - What ravenpaw said.
TallReena - I didn't really see it tbh. It seemed like Reena had a thing for Tallstar, but there was no indication that Tallstar liked Reena back (he was quite mean to her after Sandgorse got axed) other than this passing thought that their babies would be strong.
IvyBlossom - Blossomfall was a jerk to Ivypool, and just a jerk in general.
HawkIvy - While an intriguing idea, I just felt like Ivypool was too young for Hawkfrost...? Plus him being a dead evil dude and all.
HawkAsh/AshScourge/HawkScourge - ...What?
BristleRoot - Please Erins not another forbidden couple. I'm begging you here! Agree w IvyBlossom. Blossomfall is just a nasty piece of work. I do feel some sympathy for blossomfall but I always hated how she treated ivypool. idk why people ship them?? why would ivypool like someone who blatantly didn’t want anything todo with her for like 3 books?? |
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Dec 24, 2019 4:25:05 GMT -5
Agree w IvyBlossom. Blossomfall is just a nasty piece of work. I do feel some sympathy for blossomfall but I always hated how she treated ivypool. idk why people ship them?? why would ivypool like someone who blatantly didn’t want anything todo with her for like 3 books?? Blossomfall is just a brat. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 24, 2019 9:20:30 GMT -5
Agree w IvyBlossom. Blossomfall is just a nasty piece of work. I do feel some sympathy for blossomfall but I always hated how she treated ivypool. idk why people ship them?? why would ivypool like someone who blatantly didn’t want anything todo with her for like 3 books?? It was more popular on tumblr, that alone says enough about it as a pairing. |
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Post by halogen on Dec 24, 2019 11:29:57 GMT -5
I don't like Blossomfall but I actually don't mind IvyBlossom, I always feel the premise is that they grow to respect and care for each other due to their ordeal in the Dark Forest together, even though before that all happens Blossomfall wants nothing to do with her. It really doesn't seem any different than, say, FireSand, except their development and growing closer to each other in canon is restricted to their one scene in the tunnels, well, because the ship isn't canon, those who are shipping it presumably are, like everyone who ships a non-canon ship, imagining an alternate universe where they are closer to each other.
But onto ones I don't like
A lot of the ones people have listed already like SquirrelBramble, LeafCrow, YellowRagged, StormBrook, SpottedFire for the reasons listed above, I don't feel I need to get too into these.
NightFeather, BrambleAsh, OakThrush, NightLeaf etc.: I just think it's an overused copout to always get the other two members of a "love triangle" of some sort together, even if they barely interact (well, at least with BrambleAsh they were close friends and in the same Clan...) it sometimes gets to the point where a very large portion of the ships around are cats who never interacted but just happened to be in a relationship with or had a crush on the same cat in canon.
ThunderLightning: I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with or prevent what are essentially adopted siblings from getting together, but I'm tired of every set of adopted siblings in media being interpreted as a ship or even getting together in canon!
FireGray: Why can't cats ever be best friends who are very close to each other, but not romantically? It's ok to be close to and loyal to a friend without your relationship being "lesser" than a romance.
HawkAsh: This is another pet peeve of mine - why do characters who were conspiring/working with each other always end up being shipped, even if it was for a completely pragmatic reason and they might not even like each other? Hawkfrost is just a manipulator who wants power and Ashfur wants revenge on the cat who didn't want to be with him romantically, he's not looking for a new love. Sometimes cats just work together and it's not a romance.
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 24, 2019 12:43:19 GMT -5
I do feel some sympathy for blossomfall but I always hated how she treated ivypool. idk why people ship them?? why would ivypool like someone who blatantly didn’t want anything todo with her for like 3 books?? It was more popular on tumblr, that alone says enough about it as a pairing. ive always found that hilariously ironic bc dumblr usually hates any lesbian ship with actual conflict that isn't just fluff. its usually abusive male ships that they love or at least it used to be, it might have changed idk |
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Post by Fernshiine on Dec 24, 2019 12:47:35 GMT -5
It was more popular on tumblr, that alone says enough about it as a pairing. ive always found that hilariously ironic bc dumblr usually hates any lesbian ship with actual conflict that isn't just fluff. its usually abusive male ships that they love or at least it used to be, it might have changed idk |
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Post by Card against Humanity on Dec 24, 2019 12:50:10 GMT -5
ive always found that hilariously ironic bc dumblr usually hates any lesbian ship with actual conflict that isn't just fluff. its usually abusive male ships that they love or at least it used to be, it might have changed idk its gotten a lot better since the nudity ban but only bc most of the worst people left |
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