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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 12:36:12 GMT -5
Who doesn't care about the newer books? I've read the spoilers of the second half of AVOS, Tigerheart's Shadow, Crowfeather's Trial, and Squirrelflight's Hope and they sound awful. It's like they were written by an AI who browsed the Warriors sections of Fanfiction.net and Wattpad.
I thought Omen of The Stars was the lowest point of the series, but I was wrong.
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Post by cappuccinokitty on Dec 15, 2019 12:46:51 GMT -5
I actually see where you’re coming from. AVoS was quite good, but to me felt strained/forced at the beginning, with Shattered Sky being the best moment, then the quality dropped after Skyclan moved for the 5384th time.
Whilst I much prefer TBC and AVoS to OOtS, it felt more natural to end the whole series after the battle.
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Post by mrnnki on Dec 15, 2019 12:49:31 GMT -5
I keep up with what's going on but I can't stand reading them anymore. I think I got as far as the end of AVoS (though I might've skipped a book on accident). Maybe I'll pick them up again someday.
As stupid as it sounds, the only arcs I really liked were TNP and Po3. Though the powers thing bothered me a little, it was cool. Then, StarClan got everywhere.
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Post by Hawkflower on Dec 15, 2019 12:55:59 GMT -5
I really enjoy the books, still.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 14:28:55 GMT -5
Nah, you ain't the only one. I can't find myself reading these later Warriors books. The latest one I did read was Hawkwing's Journey, and that's about it after that.
Ultimately, these recent Warriors books don't feel like the Warriors I started reading about thirteen years ago.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Dec 15, 2019 16:17:32 GMT -5
Please don't ever decide whether or not to read a book from a spoiler thread on this forum. People are way too reactionary and focus far too much on the negatives here. Warriors has never been perfect, but it is not the utter trash people like to claim it is. I fully understand how you guys came this conclusion, but please give the books a chance.
I've seen people rip apart every new book, but have personally found that none of them deserve the harsh reviews they get. There's still a lot to love in this series.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Dec 15, 2019 19:28:27 GMT -5
Even if a new book in the series seems 'trash' I'll still read it. Just because someone doesn't like a book doesn't mean I wont.
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Post by Hawkflower on Dec 15, 2019 19:34:41 GMT -5
Even if a new book in the series seems 'trash' I'll still read it. Just because someone doesn't like a book doesn't mean I wont. I agree with you. There are tons of parts of AVoS and SqH that I really enjoyed, and maybe I few parts that I didn’t. Overall, I enjoyed them as apart of the Warriors series, and I don’t find them to be trashy. That doesn’t mean everyone will feel the same way! |
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Post by Aspenwing on Dec 15, 2019 21:00:02 GMT -5
Even if a new book in the series seems 'trash' I'll still read it. Just because someone doesn't like a book doesn't mean I wont. Totally agree, I find it better to read it myself and form my own opinion rather than just agree with someone else and miss out. |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Dec 15, 2019 21:20:55 GMT -5
Even if a new book in the series seems 'trash' I'll still read it. Just because someone doesn't like a book doesn't mean I wont. Given how people seem to take the critics' words as fact, I'm seriously starting to wonder how many fans have been put off reading the newer books because of them. Especially the young naive ones. |
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 15, 2019 23:29:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt that a lot of people stopped reading due to harsh criticism.
Don't read spoilers. People are going to have opinions and talk. That doesn't mean the books aren't good.
Some of the newer books are actually better than POT and OOTS. I think some fans criticize them too harshly.
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Post by Seven on Dec 16, 2019 0:36:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel that way too, especially with the SEs, I've been pretty disappointed with them. I'm still kinda scared to read Squirrelflight's Hope LOL
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Post by Skypaw13 on Dec 18, 2019 19:50:44 GMT -5
I've been pretty open about not really considering anything after TLH canon. I still get into discussions and I like reading the new books just to see what's going on, but I'm much happier if I just consider Dovewing's Silence and onward as well-known fanfiction as opposed to actually what's happening in the Warriors world. For me I just think the way the world was handled was very inconsistent with previous books, and I wasn't a fan of how the characters were portrayed either. Like, OotS may have been written poorly from a storytelling perspective, but I thought it had good ideas and was consistent and the characters were done well. Meanwhile AVoS was written well, but totally trashes our previous protagonists, doesn't make sense with the rest of the series, and has pretty bland characters (Violetshine was really the only one I could bring myself to even slightly care about). Combined with more petty things that I dislike (The Three losing their powers, Leafpool getting her job back so there's 3 MCs, SkyClan coming back), it just makes more sense and makes me a happier person if I disregard later books in my personal canon.
That's not to say they're not good though. Crowfeather's Trial and Squirrelflight's Hope are my third and fourth favorite SEs, respectively, and TBC so far has kept me VERY engaged and entertained (though I stand by my status that LS and TSiT feel like a parody of Warriors instead of actual Warriors books).
So if I were you, I would give the newer books a chance, and if you find yourself getting too angry, put yourself in the frame of mind of reading fanfiction instead of real books, and that should let you enjoy them.
Or hey, I'm always up for a Power of the Stars discussion if you don't want to move forward.
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Post by Tas on Dec 20, 2019 19:02:50 GMT -5
Don't be hasty to judge books without reading them fully. Although it's true that AVOS was far from high quality, it was better than OOTS. The most recent SEs and novellas have been pretty poor as well, but the novellas' trashiness is fully to blame on one person: the new official novella author, Clarissa.
However, the newest arc, The Broken Code, is absolutely fantastic. DOTC-worthy. If you don't read them, you're missing out.
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Post by Tas on Dec 20, 2019 19:03:49 GMT -5
TBC so far has kept me VERY engaged and entertained (though I stand by my status that LS and TSiT feel like a parody of Warriors instead of actual Warriors books). I haven't been on the forums in a while. What makes you say this? Is it simply because they're actually super high quality books, after so much mediocrity? |
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Post by Skypaw13 on Dec 22, 2019 4:35:12 GMT -5
TBC so far has kept me VERY engaged and entertained (though I stand by my status that LS and TSiT feel like a parody of Warriors instead of actual Warriors books). I haven't been on the forums in a while. What makes you say this? Is it simply because they're actually super high quality books, after so much mediocrity? No, and I disagree with the premise of that last question. I don't think the previous books were mediocre. Even OotS has good parts that I thoroughly enjoy. I also don't think LS and TSiT are "super high quality". (I only give that award to ITW and Crookedstar's Promise). I have legitimate problems with LS, and while I haven't read TSiT yet, so I can't say if I have any problems there, LS didn't give me the feeling that the next book was going to be perfect (and I have read the spoiler thread). But without considering actual problems, there are elements that aren't bad, but make it feel rather humorous and meta. TBC isn't bad. TBC is entertaining and fun to read, like Warriors books should be. I just feel like it has a lot of crowd-pleasing and a lot of thinly-veiled criticism of previous books that make it feel more like a statement on previous books than another entry in the series, with things like Lionblaze's exile and Berrynose's deputyship spinning it right into the realm of well-done parody instead of legitimate series entry. You may feel like this is a good thing, that it's trying (and possibly succeeding) to be a better version of previous arcs. A lot of people do feel that way. I think it feels like a parody. Not the whole thing, there are good dramatic moments, but that's my general view of it. I mentioned in my other post that I don't really care about anything past TLH anyway, so if you love TBC, go right ahead, you're not bothering me at all. Yeesh, that was a long response to a two-line post, I'm sorry. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 23:18:36 GMT -5
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