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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:18:13 GMT -5
I personally want Minnowtail. We need more female leaders. And, like you said, she's had two apprentices. Icewing might have had an apprentice. We'll probably never know. It's like with Gorsetail of WC. In TFW, Crouchfoot and Larkwing were introduced as apprentices but we NEVER got mentors for them. Then CT came out and revealed that Gorsetail was Crouchfoot's mentor. I was always shocked that she never got an apprentice, but it turns out she actually did have an apprentice and it was just never recorded. That's a good point about the mentors/apprentices thing. It seems like a lot of people only want certain cats to be leader, medicine cats, etc, just because they're female. If that's the case, then what about WindClan? They've not had a female leader or medicine cat for YEARS, RiverClan's had two female leaders in a row, and both their current medicine cats are girls. Personally, I don't care what their gender is, as long as they're a competent leader and not a Brokenstar or a Onestar. In Icewing's case, Podlight and Curlfeather don't have a recorded mentor. We never found out who Heronwing's mentor was. We don't know the mentors of Petalfur's kits. Icewing's own kits (her first litter) don't have recorded mentors. Though we know Icewing didn't mentor them.
We never found out Ashfoot's apprentice and Cloverfoot doesn't have any recorded apprentice. But both cats became deputies without any complaints in the books, so they had apprentices at one point.
TC has only had two recorded female leaders, so if any Clan needs another female leader it's them. But, yeah, I really do hope we don't get another Brokenstar.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:22:25 GMT -5
He also appeared as Sneezepaw in TFA, but wasn't in the allegiances. Otterheart and Rainstorm were in the book as well, but not in the allegiances. Was Rainstorm ever in the allegiances? I'm pretty sure he was in the allegiances of POT. I think Eclipse.
*Quickly looks it up*
Yep! He's here. Which means he's probably also in the allegiances of Long Shadows and Sunrise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:23:20 GMT -5
That's a good point about the mentors/apprentices thing. It seems like a lot of people only want certain cats to be leader, medicine cats, etc, just because they're female. If that's the case, then what about WindClan? They've not had a female leader or medicine cat for YEARS, RiverClan's had two female leaders in a row, and both their current medicine cats are girls. Personally, I don't care what their gender is, as long as they're a competent leader and not a Brokenstar or a Onestar. In Icewing's case, Podlight and Curlfeather don't have a recorded mentor. We never found out who Heronwing's mentor was. We don't know the mentors of Petalfur's kits. Icewing's own kits (her first litter) don't have recorded mentors. Though we know Icewing didn't mentor them.
We never found out Ashfoot's apprentice and Cloverfoot doesn't have any recorded apprentice. But both cats became deputies without any complaints in the books, so they had apprentices at one point.
TC has only had two recorded female leaders, so if any Clan needs another female leader it's them. But, yeah, I really do hope we don't get another Brokenstar.
I'm really curious about who Ashfoot and Cloverfoot's apprentices were. I'm also curious about who mentored Mudclaw, Tornear, and onestar. It's like, we know just about everything there is to know about ThunderClan, well, mostly, we still don't know the families from way back when. But basically NOTHING is known about WindClan outside of a few families. Like, we don't even know who Harestar's or Kestrelflight's parents are, and they're the leader and the med-cat. We know who Tigerheart's and Puddleshine's parents are, we know who Mistystar and Mothwing's parents are, we even know who are the parents of the SkyClan cats in power, except for maybe Frecklewish. But Harestar and Kestrelflight? Nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:24:57 GMT -5
Was Rainstorm ever in the allegiances? I'm pretty sure he was in the allegiances of POT. I think Eclipse.
*Quickly looks it up*
Yep! He's here. Which means he's probably also in the allegiances of Long Shadows and Sunrise.
Sweet! Who on earth is Pinefur? I don't remember her at all
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:29:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he was in the allegiances of POT. I think Eclipse.
*Quickly looks it up*
Yep! He's here. Which means he's probably also in the allegiances of Long Shadows and Sunrise.
Sweet! Who on earth is Pinefur? I don't remember her at all I know literally nothing about her tbh. Looking her up, she's never even appeared in the main series books and vanished after POT. It seems the only time she's actually appeared was in Ultimate Leader Election: Firestar.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:31:46 GMT -5
Sweet! Who on earth is Pinefur? I don't remember her at all I know literally nothing about her tbh. Looking her up, she's never even appeared in the main series books and vanished after POT. It seems the only time she's actually appeared was in Ultimate Leader Election: Firestar. I realized, that I really don't pay attention to RiverClan, because I don't even remember most of these cats, Pebblefoot (who is apparently Minnowtail's brother), Copperpaw, Robinwing (the 50th), Mossypaw, Rushpaw. I also thought Blackclaw died in the first or second series, but he's still alive in the fourth series, and I don't remember this Voletooth guy at all.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:39:17 GMT -5
In Icewing's case, Podlight and Curlfeather don't have a recorded mentor. We never found out who Heronwing's mentor was. We don't know the mentors of Petalfur's kits. Icewing's own kits (her first litter) don't have recorded mentors. Though we know Icewing didn't mentor them.
We never found out Ashfoot's apprentice and Cloverfoot doesn't have any recorded apprentice. But both cats became deputies without any complaints in the books, so they had apprentices at one point.
TC has only had two recorded female leaders, so if any Clan needs another female leader it's them. But, yeah, I really do hope we don't get another Brokenstar.
I'm really curious about who Ashfoot and Cloverfoot's apprentices were. I'm also curious about who mentored Mudclaw, Tornear, and onestar. It's like, we know just about everything there is to know about ThunderClan, well, mostly, we still don't know the families from way back when. But basically NOTHING is known about WindClan outside of a few families. Like, we don't even know who Harestar's or Kestrelflight's parents are, and they're the leader and the med-cat. We know who Tigerheart's and Puddleshine's parents are, we know who Mistystar and Mothwing's parents are, we even know who are the parents of the SkyClan cats in power, except for maybe Frecklewish. But Harestar and Kestrelflight? Nothing. True. We don't know anything about them. I still see Harestar and Kestrelflight as brothers, though. It would be like Sunstar and Featherwhisker. But we do have confirmed families for the other cats.
Tigerheart's parents are Rowanclaw and Tawnypelt and his littermates are Dawnpelt and Flametail. His mate is Dovewing and his kits are Pouncestep, Shadowpaw and Lightleap. Puddleshine's parents are Pinenose and Spikefur and his littermates are Slatefur, Birchbark and Lioneye.
Mistystar's parents are Bluestar and Oakheart and her littermates are Stonefur and Mosskit. Her kits are Reedwhisker, Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw. Blackclaw might be her mate. Mothwing's parents are Sasha and Tigerstar and her littermates are Tadpole and Hawkfrost. Willowshine's mother is Mosspelt.
We met Leafstar's mother briefly when she gave her daughter a life, but we don't know her name. Leafstar's mate is Billystorm and her kits are Firefern, Stormheart and Harrybrook. Fidgetflake's parents are Birdwing and Sagenose and his littermates are Snipkit and Curlypaw. You are right about Frecklewish. She was born a kittypet, so we don't have a confirmed family for her.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:45:43 GMT -5
I'm really curious about who Ashfoot and Cloverfoot's apprentices were. I'm also curious about who mentored Mudclaw, Tornear, and onestar. It's like, we know just about everything there is to know about ThunderClan, well, mostly, we still don't know the families from way back when. But basically NOTHING is known about WindClan outside of a few families. Like, we don't even know who Harestar's or Kestrelflight's parents are, and they're the leader and the med-cat. We know who Tigerheart's and Puddleshine's parents are, we know who Mistystar and Mothwing's parents are, we even know who are the parents of the SkyClan cats in power, except for maybe Frecklewish. But Harestar and Kestrelflight? Nothing. True. We don't know anything about them. I still see Harestar and Kestrelflight as brothers, though. It would be like Sunstar and Featherwhisker. But we do have confirmed families for the other cats.
Tigerheart's parents are Rowanclaw and Tawnypelt and his littermates are Dawnpelt and Flametail. His mate is Dovewing and his kits are Pouncestep, Shadowpaw and Lightleap. Puddleshine's parents are Pinenose and Spikefur and his littermates are Slatefur, Birchbark and Lioneye.
Mistystar's parents are Bluestar and Oakheart and her littermates are Stonefur and Mosskit. Her kits are Reedwhisker, Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw. Blackclaw might be her mate. Mothwing's parents are Sasha and Tigerstar and her littermates are Tadpole and Hawkfrost. Willowshine's mother is Mosspelt.
We met Leafstar's mother briefly when she gave her daughter a life, but we don't know her name. Leafstar's mate is Billystorm and her kits are Firefern, Stormheart and Harrybrook. Fidgetflake's parents are Birdwing and Sagenose and his littermates are Snipkit and Curlypaw. You are right about Frecklewish. She was born a kittypet, so we don't have a confirmed family for her.
Firefern is SUCH a pretty name! Harrybrook is kinda weird, but I know he was named after Sol, for some reason. I like how all of Mistystar's kits' names start with the letter P, and then there's Reedwhisker, the only survivor sadly. I would love if Kestrelflight and Harestar were brothers, I saw this awesome theory on here once, that Mudclaw was their dad, and I've also seen some cool theories that they're Heathertail's littermates, but I think since Heathertail got confirmed to be Onestar's kit, then they would be as well, right?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:47:41 GMT -5
I know literally nothing about her tbh. Looking her up, she's never even appeared in the main series books and vanished after POT. It seems the only time she's actually appeared was in Ultimate Leader Election: Firestar. I realized, that I really don't pay attention to RiverClan, because I don't even remember most of these cats, Pebblefoot (who is apparently Minnowtail's brother), Copperpaw, Robinwing (the 50th), Mossypaw, Rushpaw. I also thought Blackclaw died in the first or second series, but he's still alive in the fourth series, and I don't remember this Voletooth guy at all. Yeah, a lot of minor characters are in RC. Copperpaw was only in POT, then vanished. Mossypaw became Mossyfoot and Rushpaw became Rushtail. Actually, there was a story in BOTC where Mistystar was teaching four RC apprentices. They were Rushpaw, Tanglepaw, Duckpaw and Pikepaw. Since the field guide came out before NW (I think), this scene should takes place during OOTS, though we never see a Pikepaw, Tanglepaw or Duckpaw. Rushpaw was a she-cat in this story, but a tom for the rest of the series. Though the wiki lists them as different cats, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be the same cat. Meaning that Tanglepaw and Duckpaw are Rushtail's littermates.
Blackclaw died from the drought in TFA, while Pebblefoot died during the storm in BrS. Him and Minnowtail were kits in TNP and were stated to be younger than Willowshine. These two had a sibling named Tumblekit and their mother is Dawnflower.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:49:18 GMT -5
I realized, that I really don't pay attention to RiverClan, because I don't even remember most of these cats, Pebblefoot (who is apparently Minnowtail's brother), Copperpaw, Robinwing (the 50th), Mossypaw, Rushpaw. I also thought Blackclaw died in the first or second series, but he's still alive in the fourth series, and I don't remember this Voletooth guy at all. Yeah, a lot of minor characters are in RC. Copperpaw was only in POT, then vanished. Mossypaw became Mossyfoot and Rushpaw became Rushtail. Actually, there was a story in BOTC where Mistystar was teaching four RC apprentices. They were Rushpaw, Tanglepaw, Duckpaw and Pikepaw. Since the field guide came out before NW (I think), this scene should takes place during OOTS, though we never see a Pikepaw, Tanglepaw or Duckpaw. Rushpaw was a she-cat in this story, but a tom for the rest of the series. Though the wiki lists them as different cats, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be the same cat. Meaning that Tanglepaw and Duckpaw are Rushtail's littermates.
Blackclaw died from the drought in TFA, while Pebblefoot died during the storm in BrS. Him and Minnowtail were kits in TNP and were stated to be younger than Willowshine. These two had a sibling named Tumblekit and their mother is Dawnflower.
Oh wow I don't remember Mossyfoot or Rushtail either, sadly. Wasn't Tumblekit the kit that died from the poison when he? she? and his siblings snuck out of camp, and found that toxic waste or whatever?
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:55:58 GMT -5
True. We don't know anything about them. I still see Harestar and Kestrelflight as brothers, though. It would be like Sunstar and Featherwhisker. But we do have confirmed families for the other cats.
Tigerheart's parents are Rowanclaw and Tawnypelt and his littermates are Dawnpelt and Flametail. His mate is Dovewing and his kits are Pouncestep, Shadowpaw and Lightleap. Puddleshine's parents are Pinenose and Spikefur and his littermates are Slatefur, Birchbark and Lioneye.
Mistystar's parents are Bluestar and Oakheart and her littermates are Stonefur and Mosskit. Her kits are Reedwhisker, Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw. Blackclaw might be her mate. Mothwing's parents are Sasha and Tigerstar and her littermates are Tadpole and Hawkfrost. Willowshine's mother is Mosspelt.
We met Leafstar's mother briefly when she gave her daughter a life, but we don't know her name. Leafstar's mate is Billystorm and her kits are Firefern, Stormheart and Harrybrook. Fidgetflake's parents are Birdwing and Sagenose and his littermates are Snipkit and Curlypaw. You are right about Frecklewish. She was born a kittypet, so we don't have a confirmed family for her.
Firefern is SUCH a pretty name! Harrybrook is kinda weird, but I know he was named after Sol, for some reason. I like how all of Mistystar's kits' names start with the letter P, and then there's Reedwhisker, the only survivor sadly. I would love if Kestrelflight and Harestar were brothers, I saw this awesome theory on here once, that Mudclaw was their dad, and I've also seen some cool theories that they're Heathertail's littermates, but I think since Heathertail got confirmed to be Onestar's kit, the'n they would be as well, right? I'm one of those people who headcanons Heathertail, Harestar and Kestrelflight as littermates. Harestar getting his warrior name before Heathertail doesn't really mean anything since that happens quite a bit.
Firefern was my favourite of Leafstar's kits. It's a shame that she died. She was also named after Firestar, while Stormheart was named after Sandstorm. Harrybrook was named after Sol's kittypet name, Harry. Leafstar named her son before knowing Sol's real name. He helped Leafstar and her kits escape from a Twoleg den, which is why Harrybrook was named after him.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 4, 2019 17:58:33 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of minor characters are in RC. Copperpaw was only in POT, then vanished. Mossypaw became Mossyfoot and Rushpaw became Rushtail. Actually, there was a story in BOTC where Mistystar was teaching four RC apprentices. They were Rushpaw, Tanglepaw, Duckpaw and Pikepaw. Since the field guide came out before NW (I think), this scene should takes place during OOTS, though we never see a Pikepaw, Tanglepaw or Duckpaw. Rushpaw was a she-cat in this story, but a tom for the rest of the series. Though the wiki lists them as different cats, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be the same cat. Meaning that Tanglepaw and Duckpaw are Rushtail's littermates.
Blackclaw died from the drought in TFA, while Pebblefoot died during the storm in BrS. Him and Minnowtail were kits in TNP and were stated to be younger than Willowshine. These two had a sibling named Tumblekit and their mother is Dawnflower.
Oh wow I don't remember Mossyfoot or Rushtail either, sadly. Wasn't Tumblekit the kit that died from the poison when he? she? and his siblings snuck out of camp, and found that toxic waste or whatever? Yep, that's Tumblekit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 18:02:06 GMT -5
*Faith*I love how Leafstar names cats after cats. Violetshine after Pebbleshine I'm guessing she named Sagenose and Mintfur after Rainfur and Petalnose. I remember that part, it's also the part where Willowkit shoves her paw down Beechpaw's throat, and saves his life
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