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Post by scint on Aug 23, 2019 6:44:34 GMT -5
This was surprising. I didn't think it'd come out until at least next month, but I'm not complaining.
Tbh I don't see what's so bad about the name Thriftear that makes it worse than Twigbranch? Honestly, I feel like people are overreacting at every little thing in the series at this point, specifically the names...the names aren't the worst things in the world.
I'm a little disappointed that Berrynose and Birchfall still haven't had apprentices. At least just give one of them an apprentice or explain in the canon universe if they aren't fit for mentoring, otherwise I will be mildly pissed off. Mousewhisker getting another apprentice is decent, though I probably would've given an apprentice to someone else. Lilyheart getting her first one is good too, I'm pleased to see that at least they seemed to remember her. Also, does it really matter if Brindlewing and Smokehaze are mentoring their little sisters? I personally find it cute. And dropping by to say that I don't care about Harry x Bella and don't understand this hype about it; I wouldn't mind it if Harry x Reed happened. Nothing romantic was ever implied about them, not in the canon books at least. I'm honestly hoping that Harrybrook is the father to Reedclaw's kits so Leafstar's bloodline carries on- same with Bellaleaf and whoever her mate is. I doubt it's Harrybrook at this point. Some of y'all are getting a bit too worked up over these cats who don't say anything if much at all within the books, if you ask me.
As for the preview itself, I don't get the timeskip from Lost Stars' ending to The Silent Thaw's beginning. It takes place right after it ends, so there wouldn't be any promotions right now...? I mean, we ended in Rootpaw's POV so I suppose it could make sense if ShadowClan and ThunderClan had warrior ceremonies while he was out, but unless Turtlecrawl and Kitescratch's ceremony was taking place on that same day and happened while Root was out, I don't see them being warriors so quickly. We really should've gotten ceremonies for at least those two and Bristle's siblings. I really do like Spot x Stem, and Bristlefrost and Thriftear's relationship is sweet. Flipclaw, Dewnose, and Snaptooth having a friendship is nice; that's honestly more information on them that I thought we'd get. And I really do hope that the Dewtail part was fake Bramblestar potentially messing up Dewnose's name; I do think it might be a mistake, though. Rootpaw is eventually going to have to accept that he has Tree's powers, though; I understand that he's maturing very slowly and is still learning, but I really don't like how he sees Tree as "strange" for not being like a Clan cat (or something similar). Yes, I know that you're embarrassed by your father but saying that his lifestyle is weird honestly just feeds into the Clan stereotyping about how other cats live their lives. Then again, Rootpaw annoys me in general, but I hope his chapters will be tolerable like in the last book.
I wonder if we might get a longer preview later in September? I have a feeling we might, considering that one sample of SqH went up to (I think) four chapters including the prologue. Though I can wait for the full book to be released.
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Post by morningflower on Aug 23, 2019 10:10:44 GMT -5
I really don't hope they take this possessor/Squirrelflight plotline very far, I'm already majorly uncomfortable, and honestly it seems a little inappropriate for the target age audience.
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Post by Cheetahstar on Aug 23, 2019 11:35:44 GMT -5
I really don't hope they take this possessor/Squirrelflight plotline very far, I'm already majorly uncomfortable, and honestly it seems a little inappropriate for the target age audience. Seems like theyre setting it up so either the demon cat is being a creep or trying to distract squirrelflight from something either way i feel like it will be a focus for better or worse
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Aug 23, 2019 13:28:17 GMT -5
Thriftbloom or Thriftpetal, anything else would have been better than Thriftear.
Turtlecrawl could have had a better name...maybe Turtleshell?
Good gosh I winced at the thought of Squirrelflight having kits with Bramblefake.
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Post by Scotus on Aug 23, 2019 13:35:41 GMT -5
Ergh. Bristlefrost's POV is annoying. I get that she can't imagine how it must feel like to xyz but she doesn't have to keep repeating it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 13:37:06 GMT -5
Ergh. Bristlefrost's POV is annoying. I get that she can't imagine how it must feel like to xyz but she doesn't have to keep repeating it. I actually really liked it. I liked how it paid attention to some of the background characters like Dewnose
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Post by Mayflower on Aug 23, 2019 14:48:31 GMT -5
Okay, I'm insanely intrigued by what is going to happen! But also, yeah the timeline is...whack? Chapter one opens literally where the last book ended, so how are so many cats warriors and apprentices? I know sometimes the allegiances of new books reveal new warriors and apprentices that happen way later, but still. I mean, did chapter one and two have a random moon time skip or something, but we don't know it yet? That's weird.
Still! I'm excited. If it is Ashfur possessing Bramblestar, it makes sense that he's sniffing around camp and exploring things. He died in PO3, and the tree (which they made part of the dens, iirc?) fell into camp in OOTS, so I imagine that's confusing. Plus, the cats were always expanding dens in OOTS, even before the tree crashed, since they kept running out of room in the warriors' den. Things must look different up close and personal than they did from StarClan, if he ever watched ThunderClan in the afterlife -- not to mention different heights, body shape, etc. from his old body, and that changes perspective, too. It'd be cool if they paid attention to little details like that.
Or whoever is possessing him may not have been to the lake at all, if it's a cat from way earlier...? If so, them being cozy with Squirrelflight would be weird af. Or it's a whole new villain, who has grown some sort of weird fondness for Squirrelflight from the Dark Forest lmao I'm just spitballing here. If they hadn't made fake!Bramblestar so sweet on Squirrelflight and seemingly sharp with Jayfeather, that'd help keep us guessing, but Ashfur is literally the only cat I can think of that fits this.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 23, 2019 16:03:48 GMT -5
you know, i'm actually really loving the names kitescratch and turtlecrawl. i hope the skyclan names only get zanier from here, since it makes sense for their naming system to be a little different after them being separated from the other clans for so long. Honestly the names aren't that bad, this is just them having a different type of culture so they'd have, unsurprisingly, different naming systems. We're just not used to seeing names like this. They're unique and nice. I also like Thriftear and Flipclaw, I can't help but imagine Thrift with the cutest ears in TC, lol.
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Post by kinkajou on Aug 23, 2019 16:23:44 GMT -5
Why does everyone hate Thriftear so much?? It's not the best name but it's not Twigbranch levels
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Post by Owl on Aug 23, 2019 16:31:19 GMT -5
you know, i'm actually really loving the names kitescratch and turtlecrawl. i hope the skyclan names only get zanier from here, since it makes sense for their naming system to be a little different after them being separated from the other clans for so long. Honestly the names aren't that bad, this is just them having a different type of culture so they'd have, unsurprisingly, different naming systems. We're just not used to seeing names like this. They're unique and nice. I also like Thriftear and Flipclaw, I can't help but imagine Thrift with the cutest ears in TC, lol. thriftear sounds fine spoken out loud, but i personally think it looks a little weird on the page. but it's still super cute to imagine her with petal-like ears.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:24:56 GMT -5
Omg, I just thought of something, what if the possessor IS Ashfur, and he tries to convince Bristlefrost to take Stemleaf back from Spotfur? And a lot of drama and angst stems from that
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Post by Haze on Aug 23, 2019 17:41:08 GMT -5
Now that Smokehaze got an apprentice I can cheer for her to become deputy in the future and maybe even leader, Smokestar is a good name.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Aug 23, 2019 19:32:52 GMT -5
Glad I’m not the only one that was creeped out by Fakebramble being with Squirrelflight. Like no just no.
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Post by hazelstar on Aug 23, 2019 21:24:15 GMT -5
I really don't hope they take this possessor/Squirrelflight plotline very far, I'm already majorly uncomfortable, and honestly it seems a little inappropriate for the target age audience. I really want it because of that XD I like creepy stuff
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Post by hazelstar on Aug 23, 2019 21:26:43 GMT -5
Omg, I just thought of something, what if the possessor IS Ashfur, and he tries to convince Bristlefrost to take Stemleaf back from Spotfur? And a lot of drama and angst stems from that
PERFECT
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Post by alphayamergo on Aug 24, 2019 0:49:14 GMT -5
Omg, I just thought of something, what if the possessor IS Ashfur, and he tries to convince Bristlefrost to take Stemleaf back from Spotfur? And a lot of drama and angst stems from that
So Ashfur possessed Bramblestar to lure all the unlucky love interests into inceldom? Interesting. oh no what if the voice is thrushpelt
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Post by Featherwind on Aug 24, 2019 0:56:03 GMT -5
Omg, I just thought of something, what if the possessor IS Ashfur, and he tries to convince Bristlefrost to take Stemleaf back from Spotfur? And a lot of drama and angst stems from that
What if we also add Bumblestripe to that list...
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 24, 2019 1:04:52 GMT -5
Omg, I just thought of something, what if the possessor IS Ashfur, and he tries to convince Bristlefrost to take Stemleaf back from Spotfur? And a lot of drama and angst stems from that
So Ashfur possessed Bramblestar to lure all the unlucky love interests into inceldom? Interesting. oh no what if the voice is thrushpelt I've made jokes about it, but that would actually be a little frightening. Bristlefrost will clearly overcome his manipulations (she and Stemleaf were never together in the first place), but cats like Bumblestripe and Finleap, assuming a part of them is still bitter? Dovewing and Twigbranch were also on that list of codebreakers, so it'd almost be like killing two birds with one stone if he somehow managed to convince them to get revenge. It's unlikely to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised, either, considering this arc does seem to be dealing with unrequited love.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 6:06:43 GMT -5
alphayamergoHaha yes XD Thrushpelt was just pretending to be nice, while this whole time, he was plotting his revenge! Isn't he also grey? Well, sandy grey, but yeah FeatherwindYes lol
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Post by quailberry on Aug 27, 2019 14:41:10 GMT -5
I still think the possessor is Ashfur. I don't put much stock in the whole 'he didn't know the camp' thing: for one, the camp *has* changed, and two, even if it hadn't, Ashfur hasn't set foot in that camp for years. He's going to need the time to get used to it again.
The whole 'why are we looking after the elders' thing does seem OOC for what we knew of Ashfur, but you know who it *does* seem in character for? Hawkfrost. Who Ashfur already had an alliance with and spent some degree of time with. I can absolutely see Hawkfrost ranting about how awful Clan rules are, and TNP-Ashfur finding himself agreeing. This would also explain Bristlefrost's name: Ashfur either giving respect to his old ally and possible friend, or else doing it specifically to annoy Bramblestar.
In addition to the elders, some people found Bramblefake's treatment of Cloudtail to be evidence it's not Ashfur: after all, Cloudtail and Ashfur are adopted brothers. I actually think it provides more evidence. Bramblefake was all ready to completely ignore the elders' needs, but when it's mentioned that it is *specifically* Cloudtail who is struggling, Bramblefake comes up with a solution that will leave Cloudtail...relatively comfortable. Would he have done that for any of the other elders? Who knows.
Furthermore, Bramblefake moaning about a lack of food doesn't surprise me either. Ashfur has been staying in StarClan, where the entire thing is that you're always fed and always happy. I'm not surprised if the return to Clan life is a bit of a shock.
The entire possession thing seems to be revolving around Squirrelflight rather than an ambition to become leader. Bramblefake simply doesn't seem to care about leadership: he messes up naming ceremonies, forgets his warrior's names, doesn't let his deputy assign patrols and generally keeps to himself in his den.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 15:09:00 GMT -5
I still think the possessor is Ashfur. I don't put much stock in the whole 'he didn't know the camp' thing: for one, the camp *has* changed, and two, even if it hadn't, Ashfur hasn't set foot in that camp for years. He's going to need the time to get used to it again. The whole 'why are we looking after the elders' thing does seem OOC for what we knew of Ashfur, but you know who it *does* seem in character for? Hawkfrost. Who Ashfur already had an alliance with and spent some degree of time with. I can absolutely see Hawkfrost ranting about how awful Clan rules are, and TNP-Ashfur finding himself agreeing. This would also explain Bristlefrost's name: Ashfur either giving respect to his old ally and possible friend, or else doing it specifically to annoy Bramblestar. In addition to the elders, some people found Bramblefake's treatment of Cloudtail to be evidence it's not Ashfur: after all, Cloudtail and Ashfur are adopted brothers. I actually think it provides more evidence. Bramblefake was all ready to completely ignore the elders' needs, but when it's mentioned that it is *specifically* Cloudtail who is struggling, Bramblefake comes up with a solution that will leave Cloudtail...relatively comfortable. Would he have done that for any of the other elders? Who knows. Furthermore, Bramblefake moaning about a lack of food doesn't surprise me either. Ashfur has been staying in StarClan, where the entire thing is that you're always fed and always happy. I'm not surprised if the return to Clan life is a bit of a shock. The entire possession thing seems to be revolving around Squirrelflight rather than an ambition to become leader. Bramblefake simply doesn't seem to care about leadership: he messes up naming ceremonies, forgets his warrior's names, doesn't let his deputy assign patrols and generally keeps to himself in his den. The elders thing and the complaining about food, REALLY makes me think of Darkstripe. If you've ever read A Dark Path Chosen, I think it's called, you'll see why. I highly doubt it's Darkstripe, because he doesn't seem to have the brains to pull this off, but you know, anything's possible I guess.
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Post by quailberry on Aug 27, 2019 15:57:09 GMT -5
What is A Dark Path Chosen?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 16:07:34 GMT -5
What is A Dark Path Chosen? Here's the animation someone made for it
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Post by wolfcry32 on Aug 27, 2019 21:36:12 GMT -5
Dewtail. DEWTAIL. HSKSKSKHSDHJSJDHAlso, I'm living for the Bramblestar seeing his possessor getting all close with Squirrelflight. It's lowkey hilarious XD Okay, now I'm even more sure it's Ashfur. Not letting Squirrelflight leave his side even to organize patrols? Sounds a lot like a possessive cat we know pretty well :/ (Not to mention that there's now an even likelier chance that they might have those kits Squirrelflight wanted two books ago ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/eejyJM8_jTuGdFr6DpMy.gif) ) The whole Bramblestar chasing down Rootpaw or randomly appearing by his side is also hilarious. Though I wish Rootpaw would just man up and talk to him hsjskkd. I also hope Tree comes by soon and sees Bramblestar. But the secret is out of the bag for Rootpaw in regards to Bramblestar ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/K_aktz7ovAHLNjZqbiem.gif) Imagine having kits that are technically yours but not actually yours. Yikes.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 27, 2019 21:48:41 GMT -5
But why would Darkstripe have any romantic interest in Squirrelflight, he hasn't even met her. So it wouldn't add up. The only possible cat it could be, especially at this point, is Ashfur, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:00:28 GMT -5
But why would Darkstripe have any romantic interest in Squirrelflight, he hasn't even met her. So it wouldn't add up. The only possible cat it could be, especially at this point, is Ashfur, imo. Oh wait, I forgot about the romantic interest aspect I thought Ashfur hated her in the end though? Or maybe something happened in Squirrelflight's Hope between them, I guess we'll just have to see.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 27, 2019 22:12:15 GMT -5
But why would Darkstripe have any romantic interest in Squirrelflight, he hasn't even met her. So it wouldn't add up. The only possible cat it could be, especially at this point, is Ashfur, imo. Oh wait, I forgot about the romantic interest aspect I thought Ashfur hated her in the end though? Or maybe something happened in Squirrelflight's Hope between them, I guess we'll just have to see. He's what you call a yandere. Even if he claims to hate her, he still thought he had a right to her. Think of it like how Mapleshade, despite hating Appledusk, she yelled at Reedshine that he was her's, before lunging at her. So think of it like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:17:23 GMT -5
Oh wait, I forgot about the romantic interest aspect I thought Ashfur hated her in the end though? Or maybe something happened in Squirrelflight's Hope between them, I guess we'll just have to see. He's what you call a yandere. Even if he claims to hate her, he still thought he had a right to her. Think of it like how Mapleshade, despite hating Appledusk, she yelled at Reedshine that he was her's, before lunging at her. So think of it like that. Ohh, that makes sense.
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Post by foxstep on Aug 27, 2019 22:36:05 GMT -5
Dewtail. DEWTAIL. HSKSKSKHSDHJSJDHAlso, I'm living for the Bramblestar seeing his possessor getting all close with Squirrelflight. It's lowkey hilarious XD Okay, now I'm even more sure it's Ashfur. Not letting Squirrelflight leave his side even to organize patrols? Sounds a lot like a possessive cat we know pretty well :/ (Not to mention that there's now an even likelier chance that they might have those kits Squirrelflight wanted two books ago ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/eejyJM8_jTuGdFr6DpMy.gif) ) The whole Bramblestar chasing down Rootpaw or randomly appearing by his side is also hilarious. Though I wish Rootpaw would just man up and talk to him hsjskkd. I also hope Tree comes by soon and sees Bramblestar. But the secret is out of the bag for Rootpaw in regards to Bramblestar ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/K_aktz7ovAHLNjZqbiem.gif) Imagine having kits that are technically yours but not actually yours. Yikes.
I know, right? That would be so complicated ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/iVhKxJ4UsBP0VgImbuAI.gif)
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