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Post by kinkajou on Feb 18, 2019 1:42:30 GMT -5
I don't really care about tortoiseshell/calico toms or cats with designs or color combinations that can't happen in real life, but the line for me is drawn at pink/green/any other weird color cats
As long as the name fits the cat, is realistic (remember that all cats start out as kits; no queen would name her kit "Bloodkit" just so he could grow up to be a villain with a cool edgy name), and is something that could reasonably exist in canon I'm fine with it. I've never got "traditional naming," I see no difference in the names in the 1st arc compared with any after it
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Post by SuperStarlite on Feb 18, 2019 2:13:43 GMT -5
Like I'm okay with unnatural patterns as long as the colors are normal. As for unnatural colors, I can take under certain circumstances. Like, tinging grey certain colors, like how Jayfeather is sometimes drawn with a very blue-gray color, but the character would still be acknowledged as gray. One of my OCs, Mountainpaw, is a "grey" cat, but I envision him with a green tinge to it.
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Post by scint on Feb 18, 2019 2:22:16 GMT -5
I don't care much for calico/tortoiseshell toms; hell, my own Warriorsona is a chocolate tortoiseshell tabby tom! But I draw the line at unnatural colors, unless there's a good reasons as to why. Same goes for eyes like red or pink, unless the cat is an albino. (I'm a sucker for albino cats) The name has to make sense for the character. I have an OC named Silentfrost, and his name is that because he's mute/deaf, is pure white with blue eyes, and a genuine but cold cat. That's my view on it.
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Post by Rio on Feb 18, 2019 5:15:13 GMT -5
I don't really care about cats having unnatural designs (like solid brown with a cream underbelly or a calico tom). These cats have fired far more bizarre and unrealistic stuff at us *cough* Puddleshine's amputation fiasco and badger dialect *cough*.
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Post by embertuft on Feb 18, 2019 6:54:57 GMT -5
I don’t mind calico toms at all! Heck, I have a calico tom named Patchfrost who is literally my smol bean. i can’t say much about weird designs, I mean I have an OC which is a cream she cat with brown tabby stripes and ginger patches. But it’s all mottled and mixed together so it looks actually decent. Her name is Mottlepelt.
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Post by Brindlefern on Feb 18, 2019 8:39:08 GMT -5
Calico/tortie toms are not exactly "unnatural" and are in fact realistically possible to happen. It's just really really rare because it's only through them being intersex (1-3,000 chance), and even rarer for a fertile non-intersex one to exist (1-10,000 chance!). I don't care if I see tortie/calico toms anywhere really. Heck, I have an XXY Calico tom myself and I focus exclusively on drawing them as XXY when I do tri-color tom cats because I wanted to break from the norm in the fandom for once (And actually acknowledge their rare existence unlike most of the fandom), so if folks have an issue with that they can suck it.
I draw the line of unnatural colored cats though. Having a sorta "tinge" to their pelt is one thing, like a lilac cat having a sorta pinkish tinge ala Heatherstar is perfectly fine. I can even excuse Spiderleg, as I have HCs of his brown belly that make his design work (I imagine he's those cats where if exposed to the sun for long enough they'd get a 'rusting' on their fur, and he lays belly-up a lot in the sun to get that there). But neon/full on pinks/greens/purples and the like I'm pretty much going "No" to. The abundance of unnatural colors going together that would make sense on a RL chimera cat on the other hand, yeah, they bother me in canon how common that mess up is, but I don't give a shit about that in OCs because I'd love more rep of realistic chimera cats that aren't just normal natural split-faced black/ginger torties with the "chimera" title slapped onto them (Unless the person's done their research to make that work, otherwise that's usually not the case with most and they use Venus as a (very bad and inaccurate) example).
In regards to "naming systems", that's only something the fandom made, and it's stupid to stick to a very strict "style" of naming as the "traditional" system can and WILL get VERY RESTRICTIVE and especially bland after a while. Most of my cats have lyrical names because they can be creative and fun, but I do break from that from time to time, just not as likely (Mothflower, Needlepelt, Stagheart, but those aren't as common as my more lyrical names like Meadowsong and Petalblossom). In my eyes, there's no "canon" "traditional" naming style, as 1st arc shown to break from that too, it's just that we've seen leaders, Bluestar specifically, just have a certain style of naming cats she's stuck to, whereas we're shown later with Firestar his style of naming got more lyrical and creative and wild as his leadership went on. Traditional/Nontraditional naming is only a thing in the fandom and the former shouldn't be treated as "better" because rewriters say so.
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Post by Fireleap on Feb 18, 2019 10:11:27 GMT -5
I think unnatural (or unlikely) designs in Warriors are honestly some of my favorites. Redtail's, Spiderleg's, and Rosetail's new design for instance are some of my favorites. Though if you were to give me a canon neon green cat, that'd be a whole other story. I'm a bit pickier with names, but for the most part I don't mind more "out there" names.
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Post by なんで私 on Feb 18, 2019 12:20:59 GMT -5
This series has talking badgers, cats from hell coming to kill you, and your dead friends and family summoning a giant storm just because you pissed them off. So yeah, I don't give a crap about these unnatural designs. Also we live in a world where the name "Twigbranch" exists.
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Post by graygoyle on Feb 18, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -5
personally, i never had a problem with unnaturally colored characters. non-traditional names, patterns, and the like... creators of said characters should not have their imagination shackled because their creations do not align with another's design or imagination. when i first started roleplaying warrior cats back in like... 2009... there was a very big push for "traditionalism" and realistic character design in the community. i'm not sure if it was just young writers pining for a more refined community of roleplayers or an organized canon to base their ideas on, but i'd like to think the fandom is more open-minded now. my first character was named paintedfeather--and i was literally laughed at for her design (which was similar to a harlequin pattern, but more unorthodox, hence the "painted" prefix). as a newcomer to the community it was really disheartening.
so, in short, idgaf about someone's design or name for their character because it's THEIR character. i'm not going to try and poke my nose into their ideas and try to change them or make them "better" because that's completely subjective. i think a common mistake roleplayers make when giving criticism is that they want their partner to change their idea of a good character to be more like their idea of a good character.
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Post by ❤ Ivory ❤ on Feb 18, 2019 15:23:16 GMT -5
This series has talking badgers, cats from hell coming to kill you, and your dead friends and family summoning a giant storm just because you pissed them off. So yeah, I don't give a crap about these unnatural designs. Also we live in a world where the name "Twigbranch" exists. I get where people would be upset about a name like Twigbranch, but it doesn't bother me. Why do people make such a fuss about it? It doesn't sooound like Stickstick, so its all cool.
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Post by ❤ Ivory ❤ on Feb 18, 2019 15:24:56 GMT -5
personally, i never had a problem with unnaturally colored characters. non-traditional names, patterns, and the like... creators of said characters should not have their imagination shackled because their creations do not align with another's design or imagination. when i first started roleplaying warrior cats back in like... 2009... there was a very big push for "traditionalism" and realistic character design in the community. i'm not sure if it was just young writers pining for a more refined community of roleplayers or an organized canon to base their ideas on, but i'd like to think the fandom is more open-minded now. my first character was named paintedfeather--and i was literally laughed at for her design (which was similar to a harlequin pattern, but more unorthodox, hence the "painted" prefix). as a newcomer to the community it was really disheartening.
so, in short, idgaf about someone's design or name for their character because it's THEIR character. i'm not going to try and poke my nose into their ideas and try to change them or make them "better" because that's completely subjective. i think a common mistake roleplayers make when giving criticism is that they want their partner to change their idea of a good character to be more like their idea of a good character. Wow, I really like your view point. Definitely will remember this one <3
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Post by ❤ Ivory ❤ on Feb 18, 2019 15:26:42 GMT -5
I think unnatural (or unlikely) designs in Warriors are honestly some of my favorites. Redtail's, Spiderleg's, and Rosetail's new design for instance are some of my favorites. Though if you were to give me a canon neon green cat, that'd be a whole other story. I'm a bit pickier with names, but for the most part I don't mind more "out there" names. I LOVE Rosetail's design so much! It is so pretty and I notice a lot of people complain about it, but to me it's such a cool design :0
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Post by Amber on Feb 18, 2019 23:46:19 GMT -5
When it comes to tortie/calico toms, I'm okay with it. I wish in canon there were a lot less(I mean cats being described as cream and gray or brown with ginger legs)but it's also not some huge deal breaker. As for the unnatural side of things, I'm fine with tinges to coats, but I draw the line at neon cats, red eyes and neat stars/hearts/triangles/etc. throught a cats fur. Not like a star on the head or a heart shape on the chest, but unnatural patterns like I mentioned.
As for naming I have my own "naming system"(at least I guess that's what you can call it)I use. It combines the "tradtional" style of having all the suffixes have a meaning but with more suffix options of the "lyrical" system. In canon we do have something like this, however it only seems to be the case for a few suffixes like -claw and -flower.
Anyway as for the different fandom interpreted naming systems, I honestly don't see the harm in it? Like as long as people aren't acting like they're superior using certain systems I say just let them have their fun. When it comes to "traditional" naming, it's consistent as far as I've seen and it does make some sense. With the exception of the suffix -wind, "traditional naming" uses all the suffixes from the original arc. Each suffix also has a very specific meaning to each, so there will be little to no overlap on what a name means. As for the prefixes, they're used to very specifically describe the cats appearence that won't change as they age. With that said it's very limiting and repetive to use the same 20 suffixes. I'm also tired of Redux and Redux copies using this system as well in their rewrites. Again it's repetive and boring. Please let's have a Frostwillow or a Lightningfall or a Skysong in the sea of Redpelts, Grayfurs and Nightflowers.
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