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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:02:30 GMT -5
(Okay, listen up. When you kill off a character, or end a plot, you aren't simply getting rid of an idea. You're killing a story. A story that somebody has crafted, and moulded, and carried through countless events, just to die because you said they had. Just to die because somebody came along and slit their throat when it served no purpose to the plot. And over time, as you shape and mould and carry that story, it becomes your being. You, as a person, are a story. So, when you kill a character, it kills the story. A story that could've gone on for a lot longer. It kills you. Scorchgolden had a story. The treasure hunt plot had a story. Onestar had a story. Every character that you have loved, hated, felt neutral on, created, killed, and manipulated during the 75 pages of this game was a story. So maybe it's time to stop seeing the character, and see the story. See the story that would die if you killed this character. Maybe it's time to think twice before submitting a death.) I would say the same exact same thing to you. Don’t you think Arcticfang had a story? Orchidgaze? Abigail with Kingflame? Didn’t they have stories? Apparently not, because you killed them. (And sometimes stories have abrupt ends. Like life, itself. Death influences those that are left alive, that’s the point of its “end,”) And in case you’ve forgotten, that’s been the point of this game, for each person to chronicle an event.
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Sparkly
Unofficial Forum President, and the unofficial patrol saint of black cats with blue eyes.
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Post by Sparkly on Sept 25, 2018 2:07:39 GMT -5
(Can we agree from now on, to simply respect the stories, and recognise when somebody has a story that they would like to continue? For example, I had deep plans for Eveningstorm and Scorchgolden. I had a love story written out for them, but now that's impossible, because you forced Scorchgolden away from the Clan, and I can't bring her back, because inevitably, somebody's going to throw a fit over the wording or something. I just want people to know when to say "Hey, it's okay to kill cats, but I'd like to continue Blah's story", and when other people can say "Okay, I'll kill Blahblah instead, then". Just... Respect the favourite stories, okay?)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:08:56 GMT -5
(Can we agree from now on, to simply respect the stories, and recognise when somebody has a story that they would like to continue? For example, I had deep plans for Eveningstorm and Scorchgolden. I had a love story written out for them, but now that's impossible, because you forced Scorchgolden away from the Clan, and I can't bring her back, because inevitably, somebody's going to throw a fit over the wording or something. I just want people to know when to say "Hey, it's okay to kill cats, but I'd like to continue Blah's story", and when other people can say "Okay, I'll kill Blahblah instead, then". Just... Respect the favourite stories, okay?) No. We shouldn’t have to ask permission whether or not to kill someone. You already have five cats with plot armor. This isn’t like a rp, where you have to ask permission to kill someone.
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:11:06 GMT -5
(And even if it’s agreed upon unanimously, there is nothing stopping a new member from killing the cats involved with said story, due to not knowing what’s going on. Then you must accept that story had a tragic ending and move on, to try and make it better for the one alive.)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:22:33 GMT -5
(If we can't respect the stories, then we can't respect each other. If it's a new member, that's fine, but if you've been there for a while and know that another person participating especially likes a certain character, then you either leave that character alone, or ask before they do anything. it's simple respect.) Yes. But that also means you can’t give random characters plot armor whenever you want. Last time I checked Eveningstorm and Scorchgolden were not ones on your list. The only thing you have done with the majority of your plot armor characters is yelled at me when two of them became kittypets.
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:33:01 GMT -5
(I'm doing my best here, okay? Streamlily is okay now, as are Lionsky and Longflight, but Nightfire and Roseshard are plot-armoured, and Scorchgolden and Eveningstorm are. Nightfire, Roseshard, Scorchgolden and Eveningstorm. There. Can we get on with it now?) No. You were given six, now five plot armored cats. Simply swapping them out, doesn’t help the current problems that were there to begin with. Especially since that does not take back the the yelling I received earlier from you; when I didn’t even kill anyone. The characters I sent away, now apparently no longer matter to you; when that makes no sense at all, and makes it seem as if I was now yelled at for no reason.
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:35:19 GMT -5
You can’t give or swap plot armor whenever you decide on a whim to do so, it becomes annoying, not to mention a hindrance to any other players. I have a few compromises in mind, regarding this issue at least, but you’re not going to like them...
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 2:54:30 GMT -5
All options of the plot armor shall involve no one else killing them but you, as that was what was said in the first place.
A- You keep the plot armor cats you have. Aka: Streamlily, Roseshard, Lionsky, Nightfire, Longflight. But you cannot add or swap plot armor to anyone else, afterward.
B- You remove plot armor from all the fore-mentioned cats and place it on Eveningstorm and Scorchgolden. You cannot add or swap plot armor to anyone else, afterward.
I did actually have a C option but I don’t remember what it was, because I just started typing these... Also with this guarantee in mind, no harm will come to the cats above unless by your own hands, so you can have peace of mind, they’ll be protected, which equals to not restricting anything when you sleep, okay? Your favorites will be fine. And on the condition of a new player killing someone... Hmmm.... I suppose plot armor will then be allowed to be swapped to someone else as long as they’re not of deputy or leader rank, at the time. And it must be singular to whatever the amount was that was killed. Like one was killed, plot armor goes to one cat. If two were killed, Bla Bla Bla.
Is this agreeable?
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:03:11 GMT -5
(No. I gave you the possible options. (I could use Roseshard as the next part of the lineage that would be a suitable compromise to you.) Plus having constant plot armor cats would be an issue, especially if it’s recycled constantly, with the same number. It will also be unfair to other players if they decide to be more active, and want plot-armored characters too. You have a reason, but new people may find this unfair and not fully understand, do you see what I mean?
Option C- Only Roseshard, Eveningstorm, and Scorchglow will be allowed to have plot armor. It cannot be swapped or given to someone else. In the event of their deaths, the number will decrease to two plot armored cats, till they die, then to one. Does that seem fair or would you rather keep this latter part shelved till all three cats are dead, and we can open this back up to discussion?)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:03:46 GMT -5
You can see my mulling process and then the eventual idea that came to mind. :lol.
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:05:15 GMT -5
(Also in just now remembering that I don’t remember who Scorchglow’s parents were... That could be an issue...)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:09:23 GMT -5
(That would depend on position and other circumstances at hand. After all, a deputy or leader with plot armor would be very predictable in terms of plot. I’d say give it a few posts, since situations could change and mess around with at the drop of a hat.)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:14:14 GMT -5
(Also Provided I’m reading the family tree correctly...
I don’t have my glasses on. They’re not related but I would need to look more at it and update it. Since they might be related due to Blacksky adopting Honeyfur...)
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Pansexual
Sparkly
Unofficial Forum President, and the unofficial patrol saint of black cats with blue eyes.
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Post by Sparkly on Sept 25, 2018 3:24:08 GMT -5
(That would depend on position and other circumstances at hand. After all, a deputy or leader with plot armor would be very predictable in terms of plot. I’d say give it a few posts, since situations could change and mess around with at the drop of a hat.) (Okay. In that case, I'll have Eveningstorm and Scorchgolden with plot armour, and do my best to get over Roseshard if she kicks the bucket. But at least some of Onestar's kits have to have kits of their own, to pass on the OakClan blood.)
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 3:27:56 GMT -5
Of course! Blacksky’s Lineage should be passed down regardless, it’s Drizzlestorm’s I’m worried about because I really need to update the tree.
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 7:22:35 GMT -5
(I’m also now realizing I was yelled at for no reason then.... Oh well, at least I get to relieve everything and take my feelings out on characters instead. )
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 7:55:04 GMT -5
Lionsky finds this entire ordeal nonsense. He then mentions to Roseshard that it is time for the two of them to return to their peaceful life as kittypets. To his surprise, his sister refuses, and yet their other sister, Nightfire agrees to go with him. The two cats then leave over the course of half a day, with Lionsky happily painting the pleasurable life of a kittypet. Mothstar is unconvinced for the first day, really this is foolishness, cats that betrayed their Clan, seeking some sense of mercy over it. These herbs and prey did not help the cats that died, nor save Mistrail and Scorchgold’s mother or younger siblings. (Let’s not do a random coup, and make the plot armored cats into leadership since they cannot die, Sparkly.) Leader: Mothstar - A small golden-brown she-cat with blue eyes. 9 lives remaining. Deputy: Cloudmint - A fluffy dappled light grey she-cat with dark green eyes. Medicine cats: Iceflower - A white she-cat with blue eyes. She is deaf. Wolfleaf - A short fluffy dark grey and white she-cat with blue eyes. Warriors: Kingflame - A fluffy black tom with a white chest and golden eyes. Apprentice Shinepaw Gazelleleap - A golden tabby she-cat with amber eyes. Roseshard - A dark grey tabby she-cat with pretty green eyes. Longflight - A large, handsome, black-and-white Siamese tom with one green eye and one blue eye. Shrewclaw- a reddish-brown tom with green eyes. Eveningstorm - a tortoiseshell she-cat with one bright yellow eye. Morningfang - A grey and cream patched tom with green eyes. Scorchgold - A fluffy dark grey she-cat with brown spots on her nose and tail. Misttrail - A fluffy pale grey tom with black stripes. Apprentices: Shinepaw - A pure white she-cat with golden eyes. Queens: Streamlily - A beautiful golden Siamese she-cat with blue eyes. (Expecting Shrewclaw’s kits.) Elders: None Read more: wcrpforums.com/thread/59002/history-clan-game?page=76#ixzz5S7LGxxvy
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Post by Katanaheart on Sept 25, 2018 10:42:50 GMT -5
(But that ends in death usually and I can’t kill off the main perpetrators now, can I?) Mothstar compromises with the fact her punishments would fit whatever was broken. But she shall keep the punishments the hunting cats had, in place. As it was much less severe than she had intended for it to be. Leader: Mothstar - A small golden-brown she-cat with blue eyes. 9 lives remaining. Deputy: Cloudmint - A fluffy dappled light grey she-cat with dark green eyes. Medicine cats: Iceflower - A white she-cat with blue eyes. She is deaf. Wolfleaf - A short fluffy dark grey and white she-cat with blue eyes. Warriors: Kingflame - A fluffy black tom with a white chest and golden eyes. Apprentice Shinepaw Gazelleleap - A golden tabby she-cat with amber eyes. Roseshard - A dark grey tabby she-cat with pretty green eyes. Longflight - A large, handsome, black-and-white Siamese tom with one green eye and one blue eye. Shrewclaw- a reddish-brown tom with green eyes. Eveningstorm - a tortoiseshell she-cat with one bright yellow eye. Morningfang - A grey and cream patched tom with green eyes. Scorchgold - A fluffy dark grey she-cat with brown spots on her nose and tail. Misttrail - A fluffy pale grey tom with black stripes. Apprentices: Shinepaw - A pure white she-cat with golden eyes. Queens: Streamlily - A beautiful golden Siamese she-cat with blue eyes. (Expecting Shrewclaw’s kits.) Elders: None Read more: wcrpforums.com/thread/59002/history-clan-game?page=76#ixzz5S81y6Tof
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Raging Storm
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this rock IS my fist
Pronouns: she/her or they/them
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Post by ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ on Sept 25, 2018 12:56:20 GMT -5
Amidst the whole ordeal, loners were found on the border and choose to join the clan as apprentices, although a few of kept their original names.
Leader: Mothstar - A small golden-brown she-cat with blue eyes. 9 lives remaining.
Deputy: Cloudmint - A fluffy dappled light grey she-cat with dark green eyes.
Medicine cats: Iceflower - A white she-cat with blue eyes. She is deaf. Wolfleaf - A short fluffy dark grey and white she-cat with blue eyes.
Warriors: Kingflame - A fluffy black tom with a white chest and golden eyes. Apprentice Shinepaw
Gazelleleap - A golden tabby she-cat with amber eyes.
Roseshard - A dark grey tabby she-cat with pretty green eyes.
Longflight - A large, handsome, black-and-white Siamese tom with one green eye and one blue eye.
Shrewclaw- a reddish-brown tom with green eyes.
Eveningstorm - a tortoiseshell she-cat with one bright yellow eye.
Morningfang - A grey and cream patched tom with green eyes.
Scorchgold - A fluffy dark grey she-cat with brown spots on her nose and tail.
Misttrail - A fluffy pale grey tom with black stripes.
Apprentices: Shinepaw - A pure white she-cat with golden eyes.
Vetchpaw - a black tom with vivid yellow eyes
Sable - a black tabby tom with white paws and amber eyes
Palmpaw - a brown tabby tom with pale orange eyes
Queens: Streamlily - A beautiful golden Siamese she-cat with blue eyes. (Expecting Shrewclaw’s kits.)
Elders: None
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