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Post by Maplestone360 on Mar 5, 2018 16:36:36 GMT -5
Do you support it: StarClan no
Why or why not: Honestly it felt so fake when Firepaw stepped into the medicine den for the first time and bam the medicine cat was the most beautiful she-cat in the universe and he just had to have a crush on her. And Spottedleaf was just so clingy and obsessed with him after she died, smh. They had barely any interaction and it was just yuck.
Rating: 1/10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 17:31:19 GMT -5
FireXSpotted is so weird honestly. Like, they barely knew each other and they "were in love". Then she moons over him when she's in StarClan? I don't know, it just felt weird to me.
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Post by chimken nugget on Mar 5, 2018 19:03:20 GMT -5
Fire x Spotted Do you support it: Not at all. Why or why not: It's just creepy. Firepaw sees Spottedleaf, Spottedleaf sees Firepaw, and suddenly they're in love. And when Spottedleaf dies, she stalks Firestar in his dreams! Spottedleaf is DEAD, for StarClan's sake! Why does she have to enter Firestar's dreams and get in the way of Fire x Sand? Rating: -9999999999999/10
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Mar 5, 2018 19:12:13 GMT -5
Ship it?: NIEN!!!!!! Why or why not?: I hated that Spottedleaf was stalking Fireboi even though he had a mate and two full grown daughters. It's just creepy. And those type of people don't sit well with me. Rating: 0/10
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Post by SuperStarlite on Mar 6, 2018 1:52:49 GMT -5
SpottedFire Rating: 3/10 I feel the books failed to properly convey that it was apparently mutual, up until The Darkest Hour there was no real signs that Spottedleaf liked him back. It also just occurred to me that Spottedleaf was like literally the first young she-cat he met, so that probably explains a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 8:49:04 GMT -5
fire X spotted do I even have to say anything 0/10
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Bisexual
Fawnwing
Tree is good, you guys are just mean
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Post by Fawnwing on Mar 6, 2018 9:09:37 GMT -5
Fire x Spotted?
I absolutely hate this ship so much.
Why?: Well, they barely had interaction in the first series and all I could see he had a young crush and they barely talked to each other? When she died all of a sudden she's madly in love with him. It makes it worse when he's with Sandstorm. I feel so bad for her, to think he would choose Spottedleaf over Sandstorm. I hated how she went in his dreams, it was always weird and outputting. Like Spottedleaf didn't care he had family now or anything. I loved Spottedleaf when she was alive, but after her death, I hated her.
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Post by Solarmyr on Mar 6, 2018 9:47:01 GMT -5
Fire x Spotted Do you support it: Neutral Rating: 1 out of 10?
Honestly, their relationship has always sort of come across as bland and forced, as though the Erin's shoehorned it in for the sake of giving Firepaw a vague love interest; Because it's young adult fiction and that's what every writer in the genre does. Then they just dragged it on for the sake of having extra tension while Firestar was with Sandstorm, despite the fact that Spotted was long since dead at that point anyway and Fire's attraction to her came off more so as a brief childhood crush than anything else. I guess it's mostly harmless, but it's still far from well-written. Not to mention it doesn't always seem to be reciprocated on one end or the other, whether due to bad writing on the Erin's part or otherwise.
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Post by walnutkitto on Mar 6, 2018 14:12:13 GMT -5
FireXSpoted Do you support it: N o p e Why: Honestly, they barely knew each other. It's barely developed, yet Firepaw likes 'Spottedleaf's sweet smell.' Rating: 1/10
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Post by dawn on Mar 6, 2018 16:28:14 GMT -5
FireXSpotted Do you support it: no Why or Why not? I hate this ship with a burning passion. I think they interact five times during the first book, and most of the time they're not interacting, Firepaw just think Spottedleaf is cute. Cool, Firepaw has a crush on her, that's fine. Then out of nowhere, Spottedleaf loves Firestar too????? It's just so bizarre and underdeveloped. It causes needless drama between Firestar and Sandstorm. Ugh, I just hate this ship a lot. Rating: 0/10
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Post by SilverHailstorm on Mar 6, 2018 17:19:03 GMT -5
Rating: 0/10
There was no relationship whatsoever Firepaw just saw a pretty girl.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 8, 2018 10:18:36 GMT -5
Next Pairing: Blossomfall x Ivypool
Do you support it: No
Why or Why not: I used to really love this pairing thanks to the fanart and headcanons, but the fandom has kinda turned me away from it. After going back and reading the series I didn't like how Blossomfall, and some of the other characters as well, treated Ivypool. Never apologized either, and then they have like one moment in the cave that's about it. Imo, Ivy's best friend is Bumble, not Blossomfall.
Rating: 4/10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 10:32:35 GMT -5
^ I actually agree. Blossomfall really didn't treat Ivypool well. So I'd say 3/10. Never really liked many Ivy ships
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#FF55A3
Name Colour
Apricity
Bravelands is too slept on.
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Post by Apricity on Mar 8, 2018 12:00:19 GMT -5
IvyBlossom: Hate It's just one of those ships that exist just because it's gay. Which I don't like, because I only ship characters if I think they go well together, be it gay or straight. I'm not even close to shipping this because Blossomfall is giving so much unwarranted hate towards Ivypool. That's not love. 0/10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 14:59:14 GMT -5
I just never cared for Ivy/Blossom. I don't see it. Blossom was mean to her so why is this a crackship? Because of that one scene when Ivy supports her? There was nothing romantic between them. Ivy supported her because Blossom felt left out and unloved by her mother. No one else was there to support Blossom except Ivy.
Tbh I would have preferred Ivy x Holly. I know I'm probably being a giant hypocrite since there was nothing romantic between her and Holly as well, but I always thought that it was cute how Ivy admired Holly lol, and they seemed to have a mature friendship, whereas BlossomIvy on the other hand, they didn't really get along well at all. Blossom was always... mean to her.
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Post by dawn on Mar 8, 2018 16:34:22 GMT -5
IvyxBlossom Do you support it: I guess Why or Why not: Honestly guys, I don't even care how well two cats go together, all I want is a canon gay couple. That being said, I really liked Ivy x Holly (despite them being related) especially when Holly saves Ivy's life, way more than Ivy x Blossom. I don't remember OotS very well, but I can't remember much interaction between Ivy and Blossom. Rating: 4/10
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#FF55A3
Name Colour
Apricity
Bravelands is too slept on.
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Post by Apricity on Mar 8, 2018 16:52:28 GMT -5
IvyxBlossom Do you support it: I guess Why or Why not: Honestly guys, I don't even care how well two cats go together, all I want is a canon gay couple. That being said, I really liked Ivy x Holly (despite them being related) especially when Holly saves Ivy's life. I don't remember OotS very well, but I can't remember much interaction between Ivy and Blossom. Rating: 4/10 There are actually a few canon gay couples, including Ravenpaw and Barley.
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Post by dawn on Mar 8, 2018 16:54:05 GMT -5
IvyxBlossom Do you support it: I guess Why or Why not: Honestly guys, I don't even care how well two cats go together, all I want is a canon gay couple. That being said, I really liked Ivy x Holly (despite them being related) especially when Holly saves Ivy's life. I don't remember OotS very well, but I can't remember much interaction between Ivy and Blossom. Rating: 4/10 There are actually a few canon gay couples, including Ravenpaw and Barley. They're not canon in the book though. Like vicky said they were gay outside of the books. I want an explicitly gay couple.
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Post by Basement Cat on Mar 8, 2018 17:31:14 GMT -5
BlossomXIvy: 9/10. Could he a very well done, well written pairing about two characters dealing with their personal demons and struggles. Ivypool dealing with her guilt and Blossomfall with her abuse and self loathing. Everything about this pairing has potential and depth in it. More importantly, it could give us a relationship where it is less about romance, and more about the connections forged in a relationship through trial and tribulation.
I will always sing the praises of Blossomfall and Ivypool. It is 100% discount Hollyleaf approved.
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Post by bluetsar on Mar 8, 2018 17:53:10 GMT -5
BlossomXIvy is a superior pairing to any other pairing I've seen.
The clans don't get enough representation with couples like them, none of the other ones are decent in that aspect either. BlossomXIvy may have flaws but the books prove they would be a great pair, they were most definitely close unlike other characters who treated Ivy poorly. Also Bumble wasn't a good friend, he was just being friendly to get closer to Dove.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 9, 2018 0:43:40 GMT -5
There are actually a few canon gay couples, including Ravenpaw and Barley. They're not canon in the book though. Like vicky said they were gay outside of the books. I want an explicitly gay couple. I actually agree with you there, I wish there was more canon positive rep couples. But personaly I wouldn't want the wrong kind of rep either? I feel like BlossomIvy would feed into that stereotype, if they bullied you at one point they like you. Ugh. On the other hand I don't think this pairing really had much going for it except for their latent friendship, which was only a thing because of Blossom being neglected by her mother. Then even after that, they didn't have much interaction still. I personally would have prefer HollyIvy, because at least there was admiration between Ivy and Holly. Which is nice, and Holly was willing to die protecting Ivypool. So where as a canon gay couple would be great, I don't think BlossomIvy would be the best representation for that, especially for younger readers. On the other hand, I think a pretty good one, with potential, would have been River Ripple and Gray Wing. Or maybe I'm just the only one that saw something between them? The other couple that would have been nice is Violet and Zelda, imo they had a much healthier relationship going for them.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 9, 2018 0:50:08 GMT -5
BlossomXIvy is a superior pairing to any other pairing I've seen. The clans don't get enough representation with couples like them, none of the other ones are decent in that aspect either. BlossomXIvy may have flaws but the books prove they would be a great pair, they were most definitely close unlike other characters who treated Ivy poorly. Also Bumble wasn't a good friend, he was just being friendly to get closer to Dove. Bumble and Ivy were friends even before he had a crush on Dovewing though. And the first time Bumble confides in Ivy, it isn't about Dovewing, it's about his sister, Briarlight. Bumble and Ivy had a genuinely great friendship, which is one of the reasons why Ivypool kept encouraging her sister to get back with him, not the other way around. Because Ivy knew he was an okay tom, especially in comparison to a cat like Tigerheart.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 9, 2018 20:15:36 GMT -5
Next Pairing: Dustpelt x Sandstorm
Do you support it: Yes
Why or Why not: I felt like originally these two were supposed to be a thing instead of FireSand. I personally prefer this paring over FireSand, but that's probably just only me.
Rating: 7/10
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Post by 𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖐 on Mar 9, 2018 20:23:02 GMT -5
YES
The couple feels so much less...fake. If you know what I mean? I don't know. It doesn't make sense either that Sandpaw and Firepaw immediately became friends after bullying? Weren't Sandpaw and Dustpaw beforethose two?
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 9, 2018 21:32:38 GMT -5
YESThe couple feels so much less...fake. If you know what I mean? I don't know. It doesn't make sense either that Sandpaw and Firepaw immediately became friends after bullying? Weren't Sandpaw and Dustpaw beforethose two? I agree. I didn't like how the Erins suddenly made Sand into Fire after he saves her once? It's weird considering how she treated her before, and never apologized for it. Than Fire himself was so oblivious to her feelings, even the rest of the clan knew and Cinder had to tell him herself. Personally I prefer FireCinder and DustSand, even as a kid.
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Post by 𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖐 on Mar 9, 2018 21:39:00 GMT -5
YESThe couple feels so much less...fake. If you know what I mean? I don't know. It doesn't make sense either that Sandpaw and Firepaw immediately became friends after bullying? Weren't Sandpaw and Dustpaw beforethose two? I agree. I didn't like how the Erins suddenly made Sand into Fire after he saves her once? It's weird considering how she treated her before, and never apologized for it. Than Fire himself was so oblivious to her feelings, even the rest of the clan knew and Cinder had to tell him herself. Personally I prefer FireCinder and DustSand, even as a kid. I definitely agree with you. It's like "Oh hey I'm sorry for bullying you but I'm in love with you now so yeah."
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#FF55A3
Name Colour
Apricity
Bravelands is too slept on.
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Post by Apricity on Mar 10, 2018 14:33:21 GMT -5
SandDust: Neutral There's nothing about it that makes me hate it. I just prefer both of them with their respective mates. I don't believe that Sandstorm immediately loved Firestar after he saved her. It would be pretty hard to stay mean to someone who saved your life. She started seeing past his kittypet ancestry and grew to admire his traits. At least, that's how I see it. And seeing as how Dustpelt is with Ferncloud, he might have wanted to protect and defend Sandstorm, who could take of herself. He needed a gentle she cat in order to do this. But who knows? They could have been good together. 5/10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 20:08:11 GMT -5
sand x dust 0/10
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Bisexual
Fawnwing
Tree is good, you guys are just mean
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Post by Fawnwing on Mar 10, 2018 20:43:45 GMT -5
dust x sand Do I support it: I guess?
I feel really indifferent towards it. I mean, they could have been a thing but they were'nt I rather them not be together, I'm happy Sandstorm got with Firestar and Duspelt went with Ferncloud, their relationship is so cute and nice together. I don't really see how she immediately fell in love with Firestar, they were friends for a bit before she started liking him. I can see why people like the ship, but I'm just, super indifferent.
6/10
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