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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 22:52:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got back from the ER. We had to rush my apartment mates' girlfriend to the ER and she's probably getting prepared for a surgery right now. Prayers/thoughts appreciated!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 23:03:40 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got back from the ER. We had to rush my apartment mates' girlfriend to the ER and she's probably getting prepared for a surgery right now. Prayers/thoughts appreciated! Oh dear, what happened?
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 31, 2016 23:47:31 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got back from the ER. We had to rush my apartment mates' girlfriend to the ER and she's probably getting prepared for a surgery right now. Prayers/thoughts appreciated! Uh-oh! I'll be praying. She ok?
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Aug 31, 2016 23:49:45 GMT -5
I'll keep her in my prayers! May we ask what happened?
Ah ouch, that reminds me of something. So. I had met someone who was a friend of a friend, and she believes in spirits, such as just lost souls hanging around. We talked a bit and she mentioned that I had 2 that hung around me and she told me about them. The 1st was a 4 year old named Sebastian and the 2nd was a 16 named Jakob. The friend told me of their deaths and I actually had come to be able to feel their presence. Sebastian was really hot and Jakob was really cold, that's how you could tell between the presence. These 2 honestly became a real big comfort to me and eventually I came to regard them as my guardian angels. But as I talked to my grandparents and eventually co-pastor of my church about things concerning spirits, I began to doubt the spirits and it hurt me because they were a big comfort. Eventually, I asked God in the name of Jesus that if they were demons that they would leave, I asked this a couple times even. And well, they kind of did. They never truly left, but it isn't like they were before, they would come up to me and I could feel them, now it's just like a distance thing as if you know you're being watched, and I know its them. And you know, it kind of hurts? Like they were a big comfort to me and not being able to feel them is like never seeing your best friend suddenly without a reason. Sometimes I want to invite them back, but they very well might be demons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 23:52:39 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got back from the ER. We had to rush my apartment mates' girlfriend to the ER and she's probably getting prepared for a surgery right now. Prayers/thoughts appreciated! Oh dear. Praying everything turns out okay.
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 1, 2016 0:09:43 GMT -5
I'll keep her in my prayers! May we ask what happened? Ah ouch, that reminds me of something. So. I had met someone who was a friend of a friend, and she believes in spirits, such as just lost souls hanging around. We talked a bit and she mentioned that I had 2 that hung around me and she told me about them. The 1st was a 4 year old named Sebastian and the 2nd was a 16 named Jakob. The friend told me of their deaths and I actually had come to be able to feel their presence. Sebastian was really hot and Jakob was really cold, that's how you could tell between the presence. These 2 honestly became a real big comfort to me and eventually I came to regard them as my guardian angels. But as I talked to my grandparents and eventually co-pastor of my church about things concerning spirits, I began to doubt the spirits and it hurt me because they were a big comfort. Eventually, I asked God in the name of Jesus that if they were demons that they would leave, I asked this a couple times even. And well, they kind of did. They never truly left, but it isn't like they were before, they would come up to me and I could feel them, now it's just like a distance thing as if you know you're being watched, and I know its them. And you know, it kind of hurts? Like they were a big comfort to me and not being able to feel them is like never seeing your best friend suddenly without a reason. Sometimes I want to invite them back, but they very well might be demons. Yeah, that's scary, and it's hard to know how to respond to that sort of thing. Just remember that the main goal of demons is always to deceive. They want people to believe unbiblical and false things; in many cases, they want people to believe that lost human souls are wandering this earth, which is patently unscriptural, and they usually want people to believe that these ghosts can communicate with people too, and be friendly to boot. That really sucks about your situation; whatever you do, be very, very wary of those guys, because even if they're just figments of your mind, they could be a great opening for demons to take if you're not careful. I'd say pray hard about it, and ask God to make them leave entirely and stop watching you if they truly are harmful. Above all, if they've ever tried to tell you anything that goes against God's word, consider them anathema: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse." One thing I'm pretty certain about is that, whether they're demons or imagination, they're almost definitely not angels of light. I very much doubt that angels would follow you around and communicate with you in such a way, while letting you be told that they were deceased spirits. I'd err on the side of caution here and not have anything to do with them; pursuing your relationship with God will fill that void left by their absence anyway. But hey, pray about it, study what the Bible says, talk to your pastor, and follow the Holy Spirit's leading. Gosh I'm really running my mouth about demons and angels tonight aren't I
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 1, 2016 0:23:20 GMT -5
I'll keep her in my prayers! May we ask what happened? Ah ouch, that reminds me of something. So. I had met someone who was a friend of a friend, and she believes in spirits, such as just lost souls hanging around. We talked a bit and she mentioned that I had 2 that hung around me and she told me about them. The 1st was a 4 year old named Sebastian and the 2nd was a 16 named Jakob. The friend told me of their deaths and I actually had come to be able to feel their presence. Sebastian was really hot and Jakob was really cold, that's how you could tell between the presence. These 2 honestly became a real big comfort to me and eventually I came to regard them as my guardian angels. But as I talked to my grandparents and eventually co-pastor of my church about things concerning spirits, I began to doubt the spirits and it hurt me because they were a big comfort. Eventually, I asked God in the name of Jesus that if they were demons that they would leave, I asked this a couple times even. And well, they kind of did. They never truly left, but it isn't like they were before, they would come up to me and I could feel them, now it's just like a distance thing as if you know you're being watched, and I know its them. And you know, it kind of hurts? Like they were a big comfort to me and not being able to feel them is like never seeing your best friend suddenly without a reason. Sometimes I want to invite them back, but they very well might be demons. Yeah, that's scary, and it's hard to know how to respond to that sort of thing. Just remember that the main goal of demons is always to deceive. They want people to believe unbiblical and false things; in many cases, they want people to believe that lost human souls are wandering this earth, which is patently unscriptural, and they usually want people to believe that these ghosts can communicate with people too, and be friendly to boot. That really sucks about your situation; whatever you do, be very, very wary of those guys, because even if they're just figments of your mind, they could be a great opening for demons to take if you're not careful. I'd say pray hard about it, and ask God to make them leave entirely and stop watching you if they truly are harmful. Above all, if they've ever tried to tell you anything that goes against God's word, consider them anathema: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse." One thing I'm pretty certain about is that, whether they're demons or imagination, they're almost definitely not angels of light. I very much doubt that angels would follow you around and communicate with you in such a way, while letting you be told that they were deceased spirits. I'd err on the side of caution here and not have anything to do with them; pursuing your relationship with God will fill that void left by their absence anyway. But hey, pray about it, study what the Bible says, talk to your pastor, and follow the Holy Spirit's leading. Gosh I'm really running my mouth about demons and angels tonight aren't I They've never told me anything. It was the friend that came up with all of this. All I know is that I can feel their presence. And they haven't done anything to harm me, as of yet, but like you said demons are deceitful and will act as friends. It's just kind of hard to think about since they haven't done anything, but it's still very likely. And don't worry, personally I love to talk about them.
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 1, 2016 0:30:37 GMT -5
Yeah, that's scary, and it's hard to know how to respond to that sort of thing. Just remember that the main goal of demons is always to deceive. They want people to believe unbiblical and false things; in many cases, they want people to believe that lost human souls are wandering this earth, which is patently unscriptural, and they usually want people to believe that these ghosts can communicate with people too, and be friendly to boot. That really sucks about your situation; whatever you do, be very, very wary of those guys, because even if they're just figments of your mind, they could be a great opening for demons to take if you're not careful. I'd say pray hard about it, and ask God to make them leave entirely and stop watching you if they truly are harmful. Above all, if they've ever tried to tell you anything that goes against God's word, consider them anathema: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse." One thing I'm pretty certain about is that, whether they're demons or imagination, they're almost definitely not angels of light. I very much doubt that angels would follow you around and communicate with you in such a way, while letting you be told that they were deceased spirits. I'd err on the side of caution here and not have anything to do with them; pursuing your relationship with God will fill that void left by their absence anyway. But hey, pray about it, study what the Bible says, talk to your pastor, and follow the Holy Spirit's leading. Gosh I'm really running my mouth about demons and angels tonight aren't I They've never told me anything. It was the friend that came up with all of this. All I know is that I can feel their presence. And they haven't done anything to harm me, as of yet, but like you said demons are deceitful and will act as friends. It's just kind of hard to think about since they haven't done anything, but it's still very likely. And don't worry, personally I love to talk about them. Yeah, that's a puzzler. They were probably just trying to make you believe in the concept of friendly human spirits wandering around on Earth, thus slowly leading you away from the teachings of the Bible and acheiving their end goal of deception, but it didn't work. Dunno why they'd still be watching you though. Weirdos. How long ago did your friend tell you about them?
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 1, 2016 0:42:29 GMT -5
They've never told me anything. It was the friend that came up with all of this. All I know is that I can feel their presence. And they haven't done anything to harm me, as of yet, but like you said demons are deceitful and will act as friends. It's just kind of hard to think about since they haven't done anything, but it's still very likely. And don't worry, personally I love to talk about them. Yeah, that's a puzzler. They were probably just trying to make you believe in the concept of friendly human spirits wandering around on Earth, thus slowly leading you away from the teachings of the Bible and acheiving their end goal of deception, but it didn't work. Dunno why they'd still be watching you though. Weirdos. How long ago did your friend tell you about them? They're not really my friend, but a friend of a friend. But anyways, the person told me over a year ago. And Sebastian and Jakob, the spirits, have never spoken to me so Im not sure about that. It really is puzzling. Im not sure why they'd be watching me, and it's not really the 1st one anymore, namely Sebastian. That one only comes every once in a while, however Jakob seems to be pretty constant. He was the newest of the 2. Im going to head to bed for now. I'd like to continue this conversation tomorrow if you'd like.
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 1, 2016 0:50:42 GMT -5
Ok, I'm actually about to go to bed too. Good night, talk to you tomorrow!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 11:09:18 GMT -5
Thanks for that mike Splintercat @jester. She's going to be fine. She and her roommates were being stupid while we were all hanging out. Some people's children, I swear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 11:22:49 GMT -5
☂ @batman - Prayers!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 11:25:46 GMT -5
@batman that's good to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 11:31:32 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a puzzler. They were probably just trying to make you believe in the concept of friendly human spirits wandering around on Earth, thus slowly leading you away from the teachings of the Bible and acheiving their end goal of deception, but it didn't work. Dunno why they'd still be watching you though. Weirdos. How long ago did your friend tell you about them? They're not really my friend, but a friend of a friend. But anyways, the person told me over a year ago. And Sebastian and Jakob, the spirits, have never spoken to me so Im not sure about that. It really is puzzling. Im not sure why they'd be watching me, and it's not really the 1st one anymore, namely Sebastian. That one only comes every once in a while, however Jakob seems to be pretty constant. He was the newest of the 2. Im going to head to bed for now. I'd like to continue this conversation tomorrow if you'd like. You actually can have some protective spirits/angels, they are rare but they do exist. My mother had one and it was her grandmother whom she had never met, and my mother's house growing up was full of demons and when she was around they'd stay away. Then a few years about my mom was visited by her mother and numerous other ancestors to have her help them do their work in our church, which yeah I know sounds weird but yes we LDS do ordinances for the dead that they might have salvation as well. And she has seen/sense a number of others who were indeed friendly. But I would beware if the two you've got, I would not trust them for half a second as there are many demons upon the earth and they very well could be.
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 1, 2016 12:57:44 GMT -5
They're not really my friend, but a friend of a friend. But anyways, the person told me over a year ago. And Sebastian and Jakob, the spirits, have never spoken to me so Im not sure about that. It really is puzzling. Im not sure why they'd be watching me, and it's not really the 1st one anymore, namely Sebastian. That one only comes every once in a while, however Jakob seems to be pretty constant. He was the newest of the 2. Im going to head to bed for now. I'd like to continue this conversation tomorrow if you'd like. You actually can have some protective spirits/angels, they are rare but they do exist. My mother had one and it was her grandmother whom she had never met, and my mother's house growing up was full of demons and when she was around they'd stay away. Then a few years about my mom was visited by her mother and numerous other ancestors to have her help them do their work in our church, which yeah I know sounds weird but yes we LDS do ordinances for the dead that they might have salvation as well. And she has seen/sense a number of others who were indeed friendly. But I would beware if the two you've got, I would not trust them for half a second as there are many demons upon the earth and they very well could be. There are points that I do agree and disagree with you on. I do believe that there are guardian angels. In fact, there's so many that each person in the world can have multiple and EVERYONE has a guardian angel, whether you believe or not, because God doesn't want you to be alone in your spiritual battle but in the end it's up to you. But the one thing that I really do disagree on is that human spirits coming back from Heaven. From my belief, when you die, you either go to Heaven or Hell, you can't come back. Angels and Spirits (souls of humans) are completely different. Angels are on another plain of this world, as what many would call it, the "Spiritual Realm." These angels are usually guardians/warriors, sent to help us with our spiritual battle. Spirits cannot come back to Earth in this realm so to speak, as they are in Heaven with God and Jesus, or in Hell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:02:52 GMT -5
You actually can have some protective spirits/angels, they are rare but they do exist. My mother had one and it was her grandmother whom she had never met, and my mother's house growing up was full of demons and when she was around they'd stay away. Then a few years about my mom was visited by her mother and numerous other ancestors to have her help them do their work in our church, which yeah I know sounds weird but yes we LDS do ordinances for the dead that they might have salvation as well. And she has seen/sense a number of others who were indeed friendly. But I would beware if the two you've got, I would not trust them for half a second as there are many demons upon the earth and they very well could be. There are points that I do agree and disagree with you on. I do believe that there are guardian angels. In fact, there's so many that each person in the world can have multiple and EVERYONE has a guardian angel, whether you believe or not, because God doesn't want you to be alone in your spiritual battle but in the end it's up to you. But the one thing that I really do disagree on is that human spirits coming back from Heaven. From my belief, when you die, you either go to Heaven or Hell, you can't come back. Angels and Spirits (souls of humans) are completely different. Angels are on another plain of this world, as what many would call it, the "Spiritual Realm." These angels are usually guardians/warriors, sent to help us with our spiritual battle. Spirits cannot come back to Earth in this realm so to speak, as they are in Heaven with God and Jesus, or in Hell. okay, it's not my place to say to say that your beliefs are wrong anyway. I always forget that the belief systems are so different between Christian churches. Forgive me for saying anything at all c:
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 1, 2016 13:06:39 GMT -5
There are points that I do agree and disagree with you on. I do believe that there are guardian angels. In fact, there's so many that each person in the world can have multiple and EVERYONE has a guardian angel, whether you believe or not, because God doesn't want you to be alone in your spiritual battle but in the end it's up to you. But the one thing that I really do disagree on is that human spirits coming back from Heaven. From my belief, when you die, you either go to Heaven or Hell, you can't come back. Angels and Spirits (souls of humans) are completely different. Angels are on another plain of this world, as what many would call it, the "Spiritual Realm." These angels are usually guardians/warriors, sent to help us with our spiritual battle. Spirits cannot come back to Earth in this realm so to speak, as they are in Heaven with God and Jesus, or in Hell. okay, it's not my place to say to say that your beliefs are wrong anyway. I always forget that the belief systems are so different between Christian churches. Forgive me for saying anything at all c: No no! It's okay. Personally I like talking about different beliefs. I especially LOVE talking about Angels and Demons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:08:57 GMT -5
i heard angels were talked about i am here
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:15:31 GMT -5
okay, it's not my place to say to say that your beliefs are wrong anyway. I always forget that the belief systems are so different between Christian churches. Forgive me for saying anything at all c: No no! It's okay. Personally I like talking about different beliefs. I especially LOVE talking about Angels and Demons. Well for me it is hard to really state or share my beliefs when pretty much all other churchs disagree so it's not really a conversation on my end when other churchs and the world are against many of my beliefs because they always seem to be wrong, and I have anxiety which never helps. idk but I'm sure that everyone else would love to talk with you about Angels and Demons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:16:14 GMT -5
i heard angels were talked about i am here Are you an angel? .o.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:21:07 GMT -5
i have two spirit companions. they're both beautiful and full of vitality. their names are Ren and Lia. they're both darker beings. Ren can manipulate dreams, i'm not sure what Lia can do? she's a big history buff. i love them both
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:22:01 GMT -5
i heard angels were talked about i am here Are you an angel? .o. yes :P a virtue, obvs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:23:30 GMT -5
yes a virtue, obvs. amazing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:24:07 GMT -5
i have two spirit companions. they're both beautiful and full of vitality. their names are Ren and Lia. they're both darker beings. Ren can manipulate dreams, i'm not sure what Lia can do? she's a big history buff. i love them both Really? O.o What sort of manipulating dreams?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:26:24 GMT -5
i have two spirit companions. they're both beautiful and full of vitality. their names are Ren and Lia. they're both darker beings. Ren can manipulate dreams, i'm not sure what Lia can do? she's a big history buff. i love them both Really? O.o What sort of manipulating dreams? like he can insert himself into your dreams, or control whether or not they're a nightmare, things like that. he's protective so he might do the nightmare thing for like my parents if they've been too harsh to me. Lia does more with physical objects, like she'll change my water temperature for me in the shower. they're both very nice
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:27:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got back from the ER. We had to rush my apartment mates' girlfriend to the ER and she's probably getting prepared for a surgery right now. Prayers/thoughts appreciated! i'm sorry to hear that, you can message me about anything at any time!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:32:25 GMT -5
Really? O.o What sort of manipulating dreams? like he can insert himself into your dreams, or control whether or not they're a nightmare, things like that. he's protective so he might do the nightmare thing for like my parents if they've been too harsh to me. Lia does more with physical objects, like she'll change my water temperature for me in the shower. they're both very nice That is unusual. Do you know if they are safe or not?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:41:13 GMT -5
like he can insert himself into your dreams, or control whether or not they're a nightmare, things like that. he's protective so he might do the nightmare thing for like my parents if they've been too harsh to me. Lia does more with physical objects, like she'll change my water temperature for me in the shower. they're both very nice That is unusual. Do you know if they are safe or not? certified safe. i love them dearly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:43:01 GMT -5
Are you positive? Sorry I'm pretty cautious about these things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:59:55 GMT -5
Good to hear, @batman.
To add to the spirit discussion...
Once a person dies, their spirit does not linger on, or return to, the Earth.
We are not to try and contact -- or seek out -- spirits for advice or guidance. We're to pray to God.
If a spirit does appear to you and refuses to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord, they are NOT from God and are to be rebuked. Furthermore:
As Christians, we don't have to fear the devil or his evil spirits. If the Holy Spirit dwells in us, no evil spirit can. Thus saith the Lord, so I believe.
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