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Post by Cloverfrost on Aug 12, 2016 23:31:27 GMT -5
apologetics are so cool like i know i've been gushing about it but seriously nothing's better than knowing your faith and knowing you can defend it Right? I love it, and I love that my school understands the importance of it. When people say that Christianity is a blind-faith religion with no evidence, I can just smirk. My Catholic school was very much focused on Catholicism and didn't give any time to other religions or evidence lol. There was one agnostic in my class and I was the only atheist, good times My Anglican school was like here's all these other cool religions, it's cool whatever you choose to believe or not believe, and like 90% of people were agnostic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:31:53 GMT -5
You got it. Make sure to pray as well. A good way to start getting closer to God is to find a good church community. Reading the Bible and learning about it is almost like school, the subject only seems tough if you have the wrong kind of teacher. I go to a church, and it's been a great experience for me, as a matter of fact, we met that friend through the church. One of my old teachers even volunteers there. Glad to know it's going well. Most people I know have strayed from the belief because of Church pastors teaching the Bible in a strict way or they misinterpreted the scripture somehow and it didn't go well. But again, good to know it's a healthy community.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:32:39 GMT -5
It's a bit confusing, to be honest. My church has split...a lot...but to put it in short, I'm a Remnant Latter Day Saint. I think. It's confusing. Ah, I feel ya C: I'm apart of the original Latter Day Saint Church, and yeah, it does get confusing sometimes ^^"
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:33:51 GMT -5
Ah, I'm most familiar with Archangels and for a while Fallen Angels, but that was for curiosity purposes !!!!!!! I would love to hear about anything you remember/know involving any types of angels Here or PMs or wherever, if you're comfortable talking about it or anything? I might not have much to say in response tho I'm fairly uneducated.. Are you more interested in the Christian idea of angels or angels in general? If it's the latter I'd take a look at historic Jewish angelology, pretty interesting and diverse. I'd just warn against accidentally getting to the point where you're glorifying angels more than God; they're incredibly powerful and cool, but they're still subservient to God.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:35:29 GMT -5
Right? I love it, and I love that my school understands the importance of it. When people say that Christianity is a blind-faith religion with no evidence, I can just smirk. My Catholic school was very much focused on Catholicism and didn't give any time to other religions or evidence lol. There was one agnostic in my class and I was the only atheist, good times My Anglican school was like here's all these other cool religions, it's cool whatever you choose to believe or not believe, and like 90% of people were agnostic Opposite ends of the spectrum, eh? I love that my school is both firm in its beliefs and yet teaches us about other religions and belief systems.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2016 23:37:28 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me about confirmation? My cousin went through it years ago now, and I was wondering - which denominations have confirmations/things like that? Are there age limits? High Church denominations and Catholicism, I believe (Orthodox, Episcopalians, Anglicans, etc) Idk about the others but it varies in Catholicism. Like in Dallas, they had it at the end of 8th grade, but in Austin it's end of freshman year. I think it depends on the bishop or something. Generally around highschool, though. Confirmation is actually not too disimilar from the meaning behind Jewish Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. It's sort of a coming-of-age ceremony. As a sacrament, we believe it places an indelible mark on the soul (like baptism and Holy Orders). We're filled with special grace from the Holy Spirit and thereafter are wholly responsible for our own moral descisions--our guardians can no longer be blamed for our choices in such a matter. At the same time, it's basically a cry to the world, "I'm ready to be a soldier for Christ."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:37:29 GMT -5
Ah, I'm most familiar with Archangels and for a while Fallen Angels, but that was for curiosity purposes !!!!!!! I would love to hear about anything you remember/know involving any types of angels Here or PMs or wherever, if you're comfortable talking about it or anything? I might not have much to say in response tho I'm fairly uneducated.. That would be wonderful, and I don't mind talking about it at all. Most of what I know comes from the Book of Enoch which is regarded as non-canon by some standards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:38:07 GMT -5
i'm a roman catholic
i go to a fairly big, wealthy parish, so there's not really a strong emphasis on faith there, more like being showy. it's kind of sad.
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Post by Lightningdawn on Aug 12, 2016 23:39:28 GMT -5
Actually, I don't mean to be rude or anything, but many of the split groups don't call themselves Mormons. There's many differences between their denomination and the others. I can tell you about it, if you'd like. Yes, please! Sorry for being ignorant lol, I haven't met many Latter Day Saints and have only studied mainline Mormon beliefs Alright, so I'll try to explain this best I can. When Joseph Smith Jr., who we believe to be a prophet, was killed, the group I'm a part of believed that his son, Joseph Smith the 3rd, was the new prophet. The other group, who are today called Mormons, believe Brigham Young was the new prophet. Young took a group of saints to Utah. That's severely shortened, but I'm tired. Mormons have more books than the group I'm a part of have. My denomination only has the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Doctrine and Covenants. I can explain more, or am I boring you...?
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:39:47 GMT -5
Things that make all Christians groan #4: Those "share in 5 seconds and God will bless you" etc etc posts on social media. (Though, to be fair, I'm pretty sure they make people of every faith groan.) I confess that I have a special place of hatred in my heart for those kinds of posts. I usually just immediately block the people who post them if I'm following them and see that they've done it more than once.
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Post by Sootfeather on Aug 12, 2016 23:40:05 GMT -5
I go to a church, and it's been a great experience for me, as a matter of fact, we met that friend through the church. One of my old teachers even volunteers there. Glad to know it's going well. Most people I know have strayed from the belief because of Church pastors teaching the Bible in a strict way or they misinterpreted the scripture somehow and it didn't go well. But again, good to know it's a healthy community. I do agree. Thanks for the support!
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:40:41 GMT -5
Yes, please! Sorry for being ignorant lol, I haven't met many Latter Day Saints and have only studied mainline Mormon beliefs Alright, so I'll try to explain this best I can. When Joseph Smith Jr., who we believe to be a prophet, was killed, the group I'm a part of believed that his son, Joseph Smith the 3rd, was the new prophet. The other group, who are today called Mormons, believe Brigham Young was the new prophet. Young took a group of saints to Utah. That's severely shortened, but I'm tired. Mormons have more books than the group I'm a part of have. My denomination only has the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Doctrine and Covenants. I can explain more, or am I boring you...? No, no, you can go on if you want. I remember reading about that split now though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:40:46 GMT -5
!!!!!!! I would love to hear about anything you remember/know involving any types of angels Here or PMs or wherever, if you're comfortable talking about it or anything? I might not have much to say in response tho I'm fairly uneducated.. Are you more interested in the Christian idea of angels or angels in general? If it's the latter I'd take a look at historic Jewish angelology, pretty interesting and diverse. I'd just warn against accidentally getting to the point where you're glorifying angels more than God; they're incredibly powerful and cool, but they're still subservient to God. Both! I'll look into the Jewish beliefs and definitely not, I will most definitely not put them above Him in any way. I have the most Christian stuff out of anyone in the entire house, and my mom comes from a family that's extremely devout in their religion (they're lutheran, my father's side is catholic) to the point where my grandmother was about to become a nun until she met my grandfather, so it's kind of saying a lot. I love Him dearly. I've considered becoming a nun as well actually, but not on that lives in a nunnery - just having the title and dedication to the faith, while living on my own and having a job and etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:42:47 GMT -5
It's a bit confusing, to be honest. My church has split...a lot...but to put it in short, I'm a Remnant Latter Day Saint. I think. It's confusing. Yeah, that is confusing lol. Mormonism has a lot of splits I think, that must be... interesting. The only split I was aware of was the FLDS... I think that's what they're called? I'm probably missing something though.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2016 23:43:04 GMT -5
finding out that Lucifer was not an archangel but an cherubim changed a lot i thought i understood about angels
also when i was in 8th grade i was given something called "friendly defender cards" and they were basically cards with common arguments against catholicism on it along w the appropriate defense + evidence source. they were kinda fun tbh
we study a lot of other faiths and how they compare to catholicism. like last year we did a large part of history on the crusades and it was interesting getting to study the islamic faith, how it came about, what jihad meant, etc etc
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2016 23:45:18 GMT -5
i'm a roman catholic i go to a fairly big, wealthy parish, so there's not really a strong emphasis on faith there, more like being showy. it's kind of sad. that /is/ sad what do you mean by showy though? like the parishoners are the church itself? i go to a fairly wealthy church but i havent seen any particular problems besides the usual i mean everywhere you go you got the cafeteria catholics and the twice-a-year goers and the ones who dont even know why they go, but no more than usual
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Post by Lightningdawn on Aug 12, 2016 23:46:19 GMT -5
Alright, so I'll try to explain this best I can. When Joseph Smith Jr., who we believe to be a prophet, was killed, the group I'm a part of believed that his son, Joseph Smith the 3rd, was the new prophet. The other group, who are today called Mormons, believe Brigham Young was the new prophet. Young took a group of saints to Utah. That's severely shortened, but I'm tired. Mormons have more books than the group I'm a part of have. My denomination only has the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Doctrine and Covenants. I can explain more, or am I boring you...? No, no, you can go on if you want. I remember reading about that split now though. Ok, then. We believe a child must be at least eight to be baptized. I've heard some Mormon churches baptize babies. We don't just believe in Heaven and Hell- oh gosh, getting into that though...that's a sermon in itself. But I'd be glad to go into that if anyone wants to know. Only men can be apart of the priesthood- women have their own jobs as teachers, for example.
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Post by Lightningdawn on Aug 12, 2016 23:47:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that is confusing lol. Mormonism has a lot of splits I think, that must be... interesting. The only split I was aware of was the FLDS... I think that's what they're called? I'm probably missing something though. Sadly, no, there are many splits. I believ you mean the LDS and RLDS.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:47:30 GMT -5
finding out that Lucifer was not an archangel but an cherubim changed a lot i thought i understood about angels also when i was in 8th grade i was given something called "friendly defender cards" and they were basically cards with common arguments against catholicism on it along w the appropriate defense + evidence source. they were kinda fun tbh we study a lot of other faiths and how they compare to catholicism. like last year we did a large part of history on the crusades and it was interesting getting to study the islamic faith, how it came about, what jihad meant, etc etc Wow, I never even realized that Lucifer was a cherub until now. But sure enough, Ezekiel 28:14 says he was. Also that's really cool that your school does stuff like that. Christian schools, and schools in general, don't teach critical thinking enough, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:47:37 GMT -5
finding out that Lucifer was not an archangel but an cherubim changed a lot i thought i understood about angels also when i was in 8th grade i was given something called "friendly defender cards" and they were basically cards with common arguments against catholicism on it along w the appropriate defense + evidence source. they were kinda fun tbh we study a lot of other faiths and how they compare to catholicism. like last year we did a large part of history on the crusades and it was interesting getting to study the islamic faith, how it came about, what jihad meant, etc etc w h a t. . . . . . .proceed with extensive Googling
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:48:11 GMT -5
i'm a roman catholic i go to a fairly big, wealthy parish, so there's not really a strong emphasis on faith there, more like being showy. it's kind of sad. that /is/ sad what do you mean by showy though? like the parishoners are the church itself? i go to a fairly wealthy church but i havent seen any particular problems besides the usual i mean everywhere you go you got the cafeteria catholics and the twice-a-year goers and the ones who dont even know why they go, but no more than usual like 'whoever donates the biggest amount of money is the favorite parish member' or 'look i can do more faith based activities than you' or 'i'm gonna hire the pittsburgh orchestra from christmas mass because haha why not.' the last one was beautiful though.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:48:40 GMT -5
No, no, you can go on if you want. I remember reading about that split now though. Ok, then. We believe a child must be at least eight to be baptized. I've heard some Mormon churches baptize babies. We don't just believe in Heaven and Hell- oh gosh, getting into that though...that's a sermon in itself. But I'd be glad to go into that if anyone wants to know. Only men can be apart of the priesthood- women have their own jobs as teachers, for example. IIRC, there are different "realms" of heaven, right? Celestial kingdom, terrestrial kingdom, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:49:12 GMT -5
Here are a few interesting things to maybe discuss:
"Otherkin" that believe they're deities/angels/things of that nature, what do you guys think about that?
And:
Talking to the Angels and such through dreams, divination, and so on?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2016 23:49:32 GMT -5
Are you more interested in the Christian idea of angels or angels in general? If it's the latter I'd take a look at historic Jewish angelology, pretty interesting and diverse. I'd just warn against accidentally getting to the point where you're glorifying angels more than God; they're incredibly powerful and cool, but they're still subservient to God. Both! I'll look into the Jewish beliefs and definitely not, I will most definitely not put them above Him in any way. I have the most Christian stuff out of anyone in the entire house, and my mom comes from a family that's extremely devout in their religion (they're lutheran, my father's side is catholic) to the point where my grandmother was about to become a nun until she met my grandfather, so it's kind of saying a lot. I love Him dearly. I've considered becoming a nun as well actually, but not on that lives in a nunnery - just having the title and dedication to the faith, while living on my own and having a job and etc. there's actually a type of nun that live like that, they're called consecrated sisters I believe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:52:05 GMT -5
like 'whoever donates the biggest amount of money is the favorite parish member' or 'look i can do more faith based activities than you' or 'i'm gonna hire the pittsburgh orchestra from christmas mass because haha why not.' the last one was beautiful though. That.... doesn't sound good. no it is not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 23:53:15 GMT -5
Here are a few interesting things to maybe discuss: "Otherkin" that believe they're deities/angels/things of that nature, what do you guys think about that? And: Talking to the Angels and such through dreams, divination, and so on? otherkin are twelve-year-olds that spend all their time on the internet and have taken playing pretend to a whole new level. if you truly believe you are another being in a human body, seek professional help.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2016 23:53:34 GMT -5
yeah, i guess people just assume Satan was an archangel because St. Michael was. It's a super common misconception.
oh that's too bad. whenever our church gets large donations they're usually anonymous, which is nice bc then we know it's not for the attention.
please continue about the different LDS factions this is very interesting i know like nothing about them besides Mormons are from Utah
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Post by Lightningdawn on Aug 12, 2016 23:53:35 GMT -5
Ok, then. We believe a child must be at least eight to be baptized. I've heard some Mormon churches baptize babies. We don't just believe in Heaven and Hell- oh gosh, getting into that though...that's a sermon in itself. But I'd be glad to go into that if anyone wants to know. Only men can be apart of the priesthood- women have their own jobs as teachers, for example. IIRC, there are different "realms" of heaven, right? Celestial kingdom, terrestrial kingdom, etc. Wow, you actually know what I'm talking about! Most people don't. Yes, there are three glories.
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Post by Hawkeyes258 on Aug 12, 2016 23:54:26 GMT -5
Uh hello there
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 12, 2016 23:56:14 GMT -5
Here are a few interesting things to maybe discuss: "Otherkin" that believe they're deities/angels/things of that nature, what do you guys think about that? And: Talking to the Angels and such through dreams, divination, and so on? I don't think otherkin is legit. From a biblical standpoint, I don't see how it can be. I think angels definitely do still speak to people, but even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. If the angel refuses to say that Jesus Christ is the risen Lord and Messiah, they ain't legit.
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