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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:10:19 GMT -5
I'm not christian (im agnostic), but I have nothing against praying and sometimes find myself doing a prayer sort of thing when stuff gets really bad. Anyway, I have a prayer for my freind: Could you guys please pray for my friend to help her better understand LGBT people and be less judgmental towards them? Because 1, we are both friends with LGBT people (I don't think she knows it), and 2, as it becomes more socially acceptable, I'm starting kinda worried about her. of course friend! as an lgbt christian myself, i do think it is important to understand that we should never be callous or cruel towards people like myself. we're all equal in the eyes of God, lgbt or not. He loves us all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:11:17 GMT -5
Sarah is my middle name! o: You can call me Shade or Kura, or anything really xD I'm going to call you Shade, because having a Sarah, a Kara and a Kura could be confusing, lol.
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Post by Kuragehime on Aug 19, 2016 20:14:07 GMT -5
Alrighty, that's fine! xD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:15:43 GMT -5
Sure thing! Is this friend a believer? Either way, I am praying that Christ's love floods and breaks her heart for what breaks His; that she may look on others in mercy and in compassion, no matter who they are. She is, a catholic of some kind I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:19:31 GMT -5
oh yeah catholics have a huge problem with the whole love your neighbor as yourself thing and like that's coming from me the catholic
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Post by ginganinja96 on Aug 19, 2016 20:34:35 GMT -5
I love/hate people I love hating people It's great
Hue Jk
I'm a nice person, I promise
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Post by ginganinja96 on Aug 19, 2016 20:36:44 GMT -5
Seriously though, People make it hard to love them Like Stop Let me love you With Jesus I mean
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 21:16:11 GMT -5
I'm not christian (im agnostic), but I have nothing against praying and sometimes find myself doing a prayer sort of thing when stuff gets really bad. Anyway, I have a prayer for my freind: Could you guys please pray for my friend to help her better understand LGBT people and be less judgmental towards them? Because 1, we are both friends with LGBT people (I don't think she knows it), and 2, as it becomes more socially acceptable, I'm starting kinda worried about her. Added! I pray that the Lord gives her wisdom and understanding and shares His love with her.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 21:17:49 GMT -5
oh yeah catholics have a huge problem with the whole love your neighbor as yourself thing and like that's coming from me the catholic There are a lot of problems with the "love your neighbor" thing between Catholics and Protestants in general, really. Pretty tragic that we can't put aside our differences to focus on serving the Lord and reaching lost people together. Edit: And sure thing on the anxiety thing.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 21:19:45 GMT -5
Seriously though, People make it hard to love them Like Stop Let me love you With Jesus I mean Hey I mean it's hard to love people sometimes when they constantly resist your attempts to connect with them. I feel ya~
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 21:30:29 GMT -5
Seriously though, People make it hard to love them Like Stop Let me love you With Jesus I mean Hey I mean it's hard to love people sometimes when they constantly resist your attempts to connect with them. I feel ya~ I think life experiences and people's background need to be looked at deeply so there's some kind of understanding. And I think most people just don't feel comfortable opening up to a deep enough level without years and years of getting close to someone. I think it's completely understandable for people to resist connecting with someone they don't feel they can trust. Expecially to a level of opening up to them.
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 21:41:02 GMT -5
Hey I mean it's hard to love people sometimes when they constantly resist your attempts to connect with them. I feel ya~ I think life experiences and people's background need to be looked at deeply so there's some kind of understanding. And I think most people just don't feel comfortable opening up to a deep enough level without years and years of getting close to someone. I think it's completely understandable for people to resist connecting with someone they don't feel they can trust. Expecially to a level of opening up to them. Yeah, you're definitely right. I was being a bit glib there. Sometimes it is hard to love people though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 21:46:19 GMT -5
SplintercatI do understand that helpless feeling of trying to help someone and getting rejected repeatedly. But as someone who isn't religious, hell, perhaps borderline anti-religious (if that makes sense), if someone rejects your friendship and/or help, it could easily be a sign that they did try trusting other people before and now regret it. But yea, it can definitely be hard and complicated sometimes.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 19, 2016 21:55:54 GMT -5
awww i am honored by the tag Tree
also hi, i'm back had a friend over for a week so i haven't been able to come on whats up y'all? your favorite catholic apologetic is here~
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 21:56:43 GMT -5
awww i am honored by the tag Tree also hi, i'm back had a friend over for a week so i haven't been able to come on whats up y'all? your favorite catholic apologetic is here~ I was wondering where you went!! Glad to have you back.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 19, 2016 22:00:16 GMT -5
awww i am honored by the tag Tree also hi, i'm back had a friend over for a week so i haven't been able to come on whats up y'all? your favorite catholic apologetic is here~ I was wondering where you went!! Glad to have you back. glad to be back! sort of on topic, the above mentioned friend is protestant (non-denom evangelical) and we have a few interesting but nice discussions about differences across denominations main talking about protestant misconception that catholics think we need to "impress" God with good works, and how baptism for most low-church protestants is symbolic but not seen as necessary for salvation
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 22:02:04 GMT -5
I had a lot of misconceptions about Catholics before I actually interacted with them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 22:03:18 GMT -5
I had a lot of misconceptions about Catholics before I actually interacted with them. like what, if you don't mind me asking? ^^'
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 22:04:43 GMT -5
awww i am honored by the tag Tree also hi, i'm back had a friend over for a week so i haven't been able to come on whats up y'all? your favorite catholic apologetic is here~ Oh hey it's you! Welcome back! I was wondering where you'd gotten off to ;3
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Post by Splintercat on Aug 19, 2016 22:05:48 GMT -5
Splintercat I do understand that helpless feeling of trying to help someone and getting rejected repeatedly. But as someone who isn't religious, hell, perhaps borderline anti-religious (if that makes sense), if someone rejects your friendship and/or help, it could easily be a sign that they did try trusting other people before and now regret it. But yea, it can definitely be hard and complicated sometimes. I understand. I've been betrayed by people I trusted numerous times, unfortunately, so I know how it feels and can understand how people would feel that way :/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 22:06:59 GMT -5
I had a lot of misconceptions about Catholics before I actually interacted with them. like what, if you don't mind me asking? ^^' The common ones. Works vs. faith, worship of Mary, discouraging Bible reading, etc. Stuff that people liked to whisper about but, in my experience with Catholics, has not actually proved accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 22:09:59 GMT -5
like what, if you don't mind me asking? ^^' The common ones. Works vs. faith, worship of Mary, discouraging Bible reading, etc. Stuff that people liked to whisper about but, in my experience with Catholics, has not actually proved accurate. ah yes, those xD i had to be nine the first time anyone ever told me i was going to hell because as a catholic, i worshipped mary? and i was like? no?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 20, 2016 0:42:49 GMT -5
idk if y'all remember me mentioning "friendly defender cards" which were basically just flashcards with doodles of kids on the front, stating misconceptions about catholicism on the front with silly names (Doubtful Dan, Questioning Quincy). and on the back would be the appropriate response with a bible verse or whatever to memorize as a source. (the kids on the back also had names like Solid Sally and Gracious Grace). i had to memorize them all in 8th grade
anywho, i remember reading some of the accusations being about worshipping idols/Mary, and laughing, thinking "nobody believes this, that's stupid" then i went out into the world and was shocked by how many people believed that stuff about us
now i just laugh
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Post by Kuragehime on Aug 20, 2016 1:01:17 GMT -5
Sorry I poofed! I had to go somewhere
But hello again! ^^
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Post by ginganinja96 on Aug 20, 2016 1:21:46 GMT -5
Hey I mean it's hard to love people sometimes when they constantly resist your attempts to connect with them. I feel ya~ I think life experiences and people's background need to be looked at deeply so there's some kind of understanding. And I think most people just don't feel comfortable opening up to a deep enough level without years and years of getting close to someone. I think it's completely understandable for people to resist connecting with someone they don't feel they can trust. Expecially to a level of opening up to them. oh don't worry, I'm just selfish selfishness, aka pride, aka greed, is the root of all evil i've got problems connecting to people because of my selfishness, if i'm going to be completely honest about it. i have an unhealthy social background that feeds it, and it makes my life very difficult. and when i'm feeling down like i am now because of it, i have to remind myself that if i'm getting angry about my situation and refusing to love others/connect with them because of my selfish desires of attention from the people i want it from, i'm essentially just throwing a fit like a small child i'm just masking it by my age i thought of that about a week and a half ago, and it really hit me hard
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 9:09:36 GMT -5
ginganinja96Damn, I'm not sure how to respond to that, but I'll try my best. I think that every single human alive has at least some selfishness inside of them - that'll never change. However, I feel you aren't being fair to yourself. Admitting you have trouble connecting to people and linking it to your background doesn't make you selfish. It makes you human. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying there, but everyone has critical weaknesses, could it be that that is your weakness? And you can get work on it over time?
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Post by Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт on Aug 20, 2016 12:18:53 GMT -5
I think life experiences and people's background need to be looked at deeply so there's some kind of understanding. And I think most people just don't feel comfortable opening up to a deep enough level without years and years of getting close to someone. I think it's completely understandable for people to resist connecting with someone they don't feel they can trust. Expecially to a level of opening up to them. oh don't worry, I'm just selfish selfishness, aka pride, aka greed, is the root of all evil i've got problems connecting to people because of my selfishness, if i'm going to be completely honest about it. i have an unhealthy social background that feeds it, and it makes my life very difficult. and when i'm feeling down like i am now because of it, i have to remind myself that if i'm getting angry about my situation and refusing to love others/connect with them because of my selfish desires of attention from the people i want it from, i'm essentially just throwing a fit like a small child i'm just masking it by my age i thought of that about a week and a half ago, and it really hit me hard That's strange, because I have the same problem and I realized how bad it was not too long ago.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 20, 2016 12:59:51 GMT -5
I agree with Bat.
Everyone has a particular sin they struggle with. For my sister, for instance, it's a combination of anger and pride. She gets scary mad at herself whenever she makes any sort of mistake-- even minor things like dropping a spoon. In a way, she expects herself to be "better than that" and that she's an idiot for messing up sometimes. And the strange thing is, she's only like this with herself (most of the time, anyways, she can judge kinda hard). She doesn't think anyone else stupid because they drop a spoon. It's a pride thing she has, which was caused by some severe bullying by "friends" in middle school. My sister's gotten better over the years, especially since she's had her first boyfriend (who is very stable and easy going, exactly what she needs). But it's still a struggle.
I don't know what my big weakness is. I suppose it's more like several small ones that build up. I'm short-tempered, lazy, judgemental, and have a terrible lying habit. And I have thing weird thing where I decide I want to be all these conflicting things just for reactions (i.e. be the cold girl at school you don't want to cross, while also wanting to remain the class clown I am). Then I end up with weird hybrid versions of myself (the class clown who you don't want to cross when she's upset). Sorta like I roll over one day and decide that's how I want people to view me. But no real reason why? I sorta find it entertaining. The thing is, I'm not "putting on a mask" when I do this. I look inside myself and find that part already there and bring it out on the surface for a ride it's weird also I don't change like that very often, not trying to seem bipolar lol. It's only happened a few times; wake up one day and decide "this is how i want people to view me, though i dont know why" probably an attention thing lbr
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 20, 2016 13:14:33 GMT -5
The other day, I sorta scared myself. I realized I had it easily within my capacity to be cruel.
One thing y'all have to know about me, is that I'm both sassy and witty. which sounds vain but oh well and I have a very analytical mind. I'm observant of people's behaviors and though processes-- call me a junior psychologist. I am also, as aforementioned, short tempered. So combine all those things together, and you have a girl who knows how to win arguements and how to read people. Usually this comes out in retorts and remarks.
Well, I was at work yesterday (gate guard at a pool). And this lifeguard I'm certain likes me is coming over, doing his usual thing where he's trying to awkwardly make conversation with me. I've tried giving so many signals that I don't want to talk to him. I've even told him explicitly to go away, and not to bother me while I'm reading (my job is 90% sitting around). He just thinks it's funny, like I'm teasing him. So yesterday, he wanders over, complaining, "You know what's the most annoying group of people, [my name]? Little girls." I think it was suppose to be a joke. But I'd grown sick of him and bit back, "No. Grown men are." Well, he laughed like I was kidding around, and said, "Am I a grown man?" You know, part of me wonders if he was fishing for compliments right there, because the obvious answer was yes (he's 20). It felt like a flirt. And I'd grown so tired of his attempts that a very cold, calculative part of me nearly slipped out. I almost said, "No, you're a little boy. Because you wouldn't be able to read people's signals if they were neon flashing lights. Because you still walk like a boy unused to the body of a man. Because a grown man would leave me the hell alone." I ignored him instead, and he left laughing. But it scared me how close I was to saying that. I literally bit my cheek to check myself.
Here's what you have to understand. The lifeguard guy annoyed me, mostly because I knew he liked me and it was not mutual. Partly because he was an annoying male sometimes. But he's also fairly sensitive, and I get the feeling he doesn't have many friends. Being a little mean to drive him away would be one thing, but I was almost downright cruel there.
And it made me realize it's not the first time, either, that something like that has almost happened. Idk. I guess it was sort of shocking to figure out that being cruel to people would come very, very easily to me. Not just mean, not rude. I mean honestly cruel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 13:54:33 GMT -5
I'm really proud of everyone here for confessing their troubles. Like Saint Ambrosef said, every one of us have certain sins that we struggle with. For me, it's anger and envy. I get envious so easily -- of others' accomplishments, material goods, appearances, you name it. I struggle with feelings of entitlement and meritoriousness, and I get very temperamental when this occurs. I've been very distant with friends because of it. For example, one of my friends is a model at only 14 years old; she is on her way to being very successful as she's acing all sorts of auditions. I should be happy for her - this is a dream she's had for a long time - but instead I'm jealous. Of her looks (she's stunning) and of her success (she's younger than me and still achieving more than I am). This is the case with a lot of things. I'm working through these feelings with prayer and meditation of the Word, but man, it's difficult. And it's glaring.
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