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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 21:34:49 GMT -5
Yeah I'd be worried too. Could it be that his phone died, maybe?
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Oct 7, 2016 21:45:30 GMT -5
Possibly. But we contact through kik. If the app or phone is opened, it changes from S to D. I've messaged him 20 minutes ago and it changed to a D after a bit.
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Oct 7, 2016 21:52:01 GMT -5
HE ANSWERED HE'S OKAY HIS PHONE DIED
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 7, 2016 22:12:54 GMT -5
sweet!! glad he's okay
please pray for me guys! i lost my permit and it's sorta a big deal. in texas, if you turn 18 before you get your license, you lose any driving hours you have logged and have to start over (all 28). and i turn 18 in three weeks and can't take my test without it!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 22:25:23 GMT -5
good!!
and i'll pray for you as well shadow
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 7, 2016 23:32:45 GMT -5
Glad to hear he's okay, Dreamers Delight! And I'll pray for you, Shad. That's no good Also my friends and I are making plans to drive around on Halloween looking for clowns. Idk what we'll do when we find em, probably take pictures or something. I'll be bringing a baseball bat though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 23:35:38 GMT -5
Glad to hear he's okay, Dreamers Delight ! And I'll pray for you, Shad. That's no good Also my friends and I are making plans to drive around on Halloween looking for clowns. Idk what we'll do when we find em, probably take pictures or something. I'll be bringing a baseball bat though. Come find me. We can selfie. Also, praying for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 0:00:08 GMT -5
Will pray for you all. So glad to hear he's okay!
oh gosh the clowns. I'm not gonna lie, I see any in my neighborhood and I'm pulling out the weapons XD
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 8, 2016 8:42:26 GMT -5
"XD" doesnt quite work in calligraphy lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 9:02:55 GMT -5
i personally believe XD is beautiful in any form
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 8, 2016 11:27:10 GMT -5
i personally believe XD is beautiful in any form don't shove ur beliefs down my throat >:[[[[
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Post by FrozenFlashDrive on Oct 8, 2016 11:46:13 GMT -5
Y
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 11:46:30 GMT -5
lol oh my gosh
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Oct 8, 2016 12:43:03 GMT -5
xDD
XD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 17:23:46 GMT -5
I have some thoughts that I'd like to see what you guys think about them.
Was Jesus married? Now some of you might think this is not possible but I have some facts(but not links because I'm lazy lol and my mom's friend said something about this months ago and I'll never find the links but this is pretty much their argument). So first up we have the wedding he attended in which he turned water to wine, now at this time it was customary for the groom to bring wine to the wedding. And his mother Mary was there, so it had to have been a big deal or family thing. Next we have the fact that Jesus was technically a Rabbi, and to be a Rabbi ha had to have been married. Plus we have the fact that pretty much all artworks depicting Jesus he has a beard and longer hair (many of which are said to be inspired by God) which at that time only married men grew out beards. And He experienced all the pains of man, but also their joy. Which I'm pretty sure one of the biggest things that people in mortality experience is families, parents, siblings, spouses and children.
Along with this some people actually believe John the Beloved to be Jesus's son, which idk.
So yeah, please share your thoughts.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Oct 8, 2016 17:33:51 GMT -5
I don't think he was married.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 17:50:02 GMT -5
Bible never says Jesus was married so I can't say for sure.
But artworks inspired by God? Only married men grew beards? I'm gonna need some sources on that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 17:53:44 GMT -5
I don't have one I pretty much wrote down what I remembered. This is one of the arguments that I'm kind of on the fence about.
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 8, 2016 18:05:53 GMT -5
Got my Eagle project done today. I'm excited!
Also I don't think Jesus was married. Pretty sure the Gospels would have at least mentioned in passing something that important. Jesus didn't bring wine to the wedding originally, first of all. He even asks Mary why she's involving Him when she tells Him that the wine's run out. All He does is turn water into wine (y'know, like you do) when the wine runs out. The modern equivalent would be if a bunch of people were at a party and someone yelled, "Aw, man, we're out of drinks!", and Jesus ran to the store to grab some more. Except He miraculously did it instead of running to the store. The point is that He didn't bring the drinks in the first place- He just supplied some more when they ran out. Also it probably was a family thing- a cousin or something. That doesn't mean it was Jesus'. Would your mother not attend her niece or nephew's wedding? Plus, the account says that Jesus was invited to the wedding, which would be very odd wording to use if He were indeed the groom. And it also strikes me as a little odd that the account wouldn't even mention that it were Jesus' wedding. All the information we really get is that it was "a wedding that Jesus and His disciples were invited to". And hwoops I was just reading the passage and the bridegroom is actually mentioned- and he's clearly a separate person from Jesus. So yeah the water-into-wine wedding was DEFINITELY not Jesus'. Second, there's no rule anywhere saying that rabbis have to be married. It was very common back then, but not at all required. Third, there's no evidence that Jesus had a beard. That's just how He is depicted. I'm not even sure that only married men were the ones with beards- do you have a source on that? Fourth, where does it say that Jesus experienced every joy that it is possible for humans to experience? That's a legit question- I can't find any verse saying that and I'd love to know if there is one. Fifth, John isn't Jesus' son. That doesn't make sense and there's no evidence for it.
So yeah, pretty sure Jesus wasn't married. The biggest reason I don't think He was is the Bible's complete and utter silence on the issue. As I said, you'd think it would have at least mentioned His wife once or twice if she existed. Where was she during His ministry? What was she doing when her husband was wrongfully arrested, tortured, and killed? How about after His resurrection? After His ascension? It just doesn't make any sense, and there's no real reason to believe it since there's zero evidence for it. Interesting thought though, thanks for bringing it up.
Edit: I'd also like to mention that although Jesus almost definitely wasn't married, it wouldn't have been at all wrong if He did have a wife. Getting married is perfectly fine- it just doesn't seem like He did. Plus, there wouldn't have been any real reason for it- contrary to the Da Vinci Code, His mission wasn't to get married and have kids in order to establish a divine bloodline. His mission was to save humanity through His shed blood. Marriage doesn't really make sense in that context, but if a document dated to 40 AD was discovered tomorrow that proved beyond a shadow of doubt that Jesus had a wife, it wouldn't affect my faith at all. If He had kids, though... that would be weird. Would that mean that Jesus descendants with divine blood are still alive today? They'd be, like, the great-great-greatX100-grandchildren of God. That might shake up my faith, because it would be really, really bizarre, but that's a whole other topic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 18:08:44 GMT -5
I'm visiting a local Presbyterian church tomorrow and I'm pretty hype about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 18:10:16 GMT -5
Like I said I don't have sources it was a thing my mom's friend told her awhile ago and that was the gist I got
I should just leave and never talk again
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 8, 2016 18:13:05 GMT -5
Like I said I don't have sources it was a thing my mom's friend told her awhile ago and that was the gist I got I should just leave and never talk againNah you're good. It was a legit and thought-provoking question, and I'm glad you posted it.
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 8, 2016 18:13:49 GMT -5
I'm visiting a local Presbyterian church tomorrow and I'm pretty hype about it. Awesome. Dunno much about Presbyterians but they sound cool. Are you looking for a church or?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 20:00:58 GMT -5
boop
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 8, 2016 20:34:01 GMT -5
beep
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 20:38:20 GMT -5
I'm visiting a local Presbyterian church tomorrow and I'm pretty hype about it. Awesome. Dunno much about Presbyterians but they sound cool. Are you looking for a church or? Not really. I have a church I've attended regularly for the past year-and-a-half. I just feel as though I'm not getting all that I should be, spiritually. I love the people and the spirit of my church and I will always hold them dear to my heart, but I feel like the messages have become repetitive (and perhaps it's just because I've studied them so much, lol) and, perhaps, too politicized. I'd feel more comfortable in a church that puts more emphasis on theology and philosophy (at the risk of sounding pretentious, I'm more of an intellectual than an emotional being; I need constant stimulation and conversation to keep me from boredom or disinterest). Having read up on this church (and having been matched with Presbyterianism in the denomination quiz every time), I feel confident that it's more of what I need. Prayers that it goes well. I'm going to speak with the pastor after the service to make sure we're in doctrinal agreement.
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Post by Splintercat on Oct 8, 2016 20:59:05 GMT -5
Well, good luck! I will pray. Let us know how it goes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 21:06:12 GMT -5
Sorry to hear you gotta deal with the hypersensitivity too, Tree. Some days mine is so bad that just my shirt rubbing against my back hurts. :/
I assume it has to do with my anxiety.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 8, 2016 23:52:28 GMT -5
Awesome. Dunno much about Presbyterians but they sound cool. Are you looking for a church or? Not really. I have a church I've attended regularly for the past year-and-a-half. I just feel as though I'm not getting all that I should be, spiritually. I love the people and the spirit of my church and I will always hold them dear to my heart, but I feel like the messages have become repetitive (and perhaps it's just because I've studied them so much, lol) and, perhaps, too politicized. I'd feel more comfortable in a church that puts more emphasis on theology and philosophy (at the risk of sounding pretentious, I'm more of an intellectual than an emotional being; I need constant stimulation and conversation to keep me from boredom or disinterest). Having read up on this church (and having been matched with Presbyterianism in the denomination quiz every time), I feel confident that it's more of what I need. Prayers that it goes well. I'm going to speak with the pastor after the service to make sure we're in doctrinal agreement. A "high church" denomination (like Presbys) would work well for you if you're more intellectual. They go more into the specific mechanics of theology and such.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 0:16:50 GMT -5
i personally believe XD is beautiful in any form don't shove ur beliefs down my throat >:[[[[im triggered
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