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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 13:02:32 GMT -5
> I'm neutral on Ivy x Fern. > I like Cinder x Lion. > I don't like Mousefur. > Dovewing is okay, but I still want to slap her. > Needletail is a pree decent character. > I used to like Tigerheart. > I like Spottedleaf.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 15:51:50 GMT -5
Ravenpaw's Farewell wasn't that good.
Moth Flight's Vision was amazing.
There needs to be a new, non-Firestar related main character.
Hollyleaf was the best out of the three.
I despise the fact that Millie, Daisy, and Purdy didn't take on true clan names. They all suck as characters.
The Rise of Scourge is the best manga. //not sure if that is unpopular whoops
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 26, 2017 15:59:00 GMT -5
I prefer Cinderpelt x Firestar
I prefer Nightcloud x Mudclaw
I prefer Silverstream x Graystripe
I prefer Stormfur x Squirrelflight
I prefer Feathertail x Bramblestar
I prefer Mothwing x Leafpool
I prefer Fernsong x Ivypool
I prefer Dovewing x Foxleap
I prefer Bumblestripe x Rosepetal
I prefer Berrynose x Honeyfern
I prefer Breezepelt x Heathertail
I prefer Minty/Daisy x Thornclaw
I prefer Daisy x Cloudtail
I prefer Cinderheart x Hollyleaf
I prefer Spiderleg x Ambermoon
I prefer Rain x Sleekwhisker
I prefer Tree x Needletail
I prefer Darktail x Raven
I prefer Spottedleaf/Darkstripe x Tigerstar
I prefer Applefur x Beetlewhisker
I prefer Nightstar x Yellowfang
I prefer Shattered Ice x Dapplepelt
I prefer Storm/Fern x Gray Wing
I prefer Sun Shadow x Mothflight
I prefer Clear Sky x Petal
I prefer Thunder x Lightning Tail
I prefer Slash x Star Flower
I prefer Shrewclaw x Reena
I prefer Blackstar x Tawnypelt/Russetfur
I prefer Thrushpelt x Bluestar
I prefer Jessy/Cherryfall x Stormcloud
I prefer Poppyfrost x Mousewhisker
I prefer Mapleshade x Myler/Silverhawk
I prefer Ashfur x Whitewing
I prefer Brightheart x Swiftpaw
I prefer Leafstar x Macgyver
I prefer Moonflower x Sunstar
I prefer Dustpelt x Sandstorm/Millie
I prefer Millie x Diesel
I prefer Sasha x Russetfur
I probably have more...but yeah.
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Post by mimikyutie on Sept 27, 2017 11:46:46 GMT -5
I hate the name Fernsong I actually kinda liked TNP I never liked Hollyleaf I don't actually mind TigerxDove Ivypool having a mate doesn't bother me
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 27, 2017 12:41:00 GMT -5
TNP was and still is my favorite arc.
I would have loved AshfurXWhitewing.
I don't find Hollyleaf to be anything special. She was simply an okay character for me. Best of the siblings, though.
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Post by Rainwatcher on Sept 27, 2017 23:20:19 GMT -5
I'm not very caught up on the books buttttt.....
I adore Bramblestar I despise Squirrelflight. (Like I really really hate her.) I don't like Hollyleaf Windclan is the best Thrushpelt deserved better even tho I love Bluestar. Minor characters are better than most main characters.
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Post by DreadfulStar on Sept 30, 2017 11:14:47 GMT -5
I liked Breezepelt and Hawkfrost as characters and thought the PoT arc was a waste of time.
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Post by Morticat on Oct 1, 2017 13:49:57 GMT -5
I liked Tigerheart's Shadow I'm excited for Crowfeather's Trial I am ok with Tiger X Dove because it's an actual forbidden love that ends up working out (one cat moves to other cat's clan) I think Purdy was in the books a little too long All the SkyClan cats having weird names makes me invalidate them as a Clan lmao, Billystorm?? Okay, suuure Ravenpaw's Farewell just left me cold Tigerclaw/star's reasoning for being such a bad guy is honestly not that realistic. I mean, he's not the only cat to ever have parent(s) who were kittypets, and he's not the only cat to have a mentor whose more on the brutal-side
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Post by scarface on Oct 2, 2017 15:13:18 GMT -5
I don't like Firestar
I don't like Jayfeather or Dovewing
I like dawn of the clans
I don't like power of three
I Don't ship fireleaf or spottedheart or whatever
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Post by scarface on Oct 2, 2017 15:16:12 GMT -5
I prefer Cinderpelt x Firestar I prefer Nightcloud x Mudclaw I prefer Silverstream x Graystripe I prefer Stormfur x Squirrelflight I prefer Feathertail x Bramblestar I prefer Mothwing x Leafpool I prefer Fernsong x Ivypool I prefer Dovewing x Foxleap I prefer Bumblestripe x Rosepetal I prefer Berrynose x Honeyfern I prefer Breezepelt x Heathertail I prefer Minty/Daisy x Thornclaw I prefer Daisy x Cloudtail I prefer Cinderheart x Hollyleaf I prefer Spiderleg x Ambermoon (sorry but he's like 30 moons older) I prefer Rain x Sleekwhisker I prefer Tree x Needletail I prefer Darktail x Raven I prefer Spottedleaf/Darkstripe x Tigerstar I prefer Applefur x Beetlewhisker I prefer Nightstar x Yellowfang I prefer Shattered Ice x Dapplepelt I prefer Storm/Fern x Gray Wing I prefer Sun Shadow x Mothflight I prefer Clear Sky x Petal I prefer Thunder x Lightning Tail I prefer Slash x Star Flower I prefer Shrewclaw x Reena I prefer Blackstar x Tawnypelt/Russetfur I prefer Thrushpelt x Bluestar I prefer Jessy/Cherryfall x Stormcloud I prefer Poppyfrost x Mousewhisker I prefer Mapleshade x Myler/Silverhawk I prefer Ashfur x Whitewing I prefer Brightheart x Swiftpaw I prefer Leafstar x Macgyver I prefer Moonflower x Sunstar I prefer Dustpelt x Sandstorm/Millie I prefer Millie x Diesel I prefer Sasha x Russetfur I probably have more...but yeah.
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Post by dixonticonderoga on Oct 2, 2017 19:31:06 GMT -5
People are pretty neutral on Heathertail but I disliked her in POT, and became neutral on her in OOTS.
I understand the hate on LionCinder and Dovewing, but I found both of those aspects of OOTS okay. Both could get really annoying but it felt more like bad writing than them being the problem.
I don't think Firestar lived too long. The DF battle had this huge payoff- he fought them alive at the end of the original series, he almost died thanks to them at the end of TNP, they were still around in POT, and it was hyphed up throughout all of OOTS. It just feels right that the final moment is him taking out Tigerstar.
I don't ship Dumble but I can understand why they put it in the series.
I can't take a side on Blossom VS Millie because I hate them both, usually it was strongly feeling one way or the other.
Most importantly, the beginning of TLH was okay. It was about 1/3 into the book, around where Lionblaze purposely loses to an apprentice, that it became the mess that we all remember it for. Honestly I did like certain aspects of the rest of it as well. (I still bashed it ALOT but at the end of the day, all fandoms are impossible to please, no "ending" would have satisfied us.)
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Post by lilyshinemedicinecat on Oct 11, 2017 16:23:31 GMT -5
I seem to be the only one that dislikes Hollyleaf.
Hollyleaf is my least favorite character in any fandom, book series, movie, or TV show and she always will be. That is because she just has a really bizarre, unnatural, underdeveloped personality. She's thought of by much of the fandom as being kind and caring, when she is actually not all that nice at all. For example, when Firestar wants to give Millie a warrior name, Hollyleaf (she might have been Hollypaw at the time, idk) thinks that Millie should never be a warrior because she was born a kittypet. That's no better than Tigerstar! Also, Hollyleaf is legit so obsessed with the warrior code, she objects to sending sick cats to the abandoned Twoleg nest to recover because "oh no, that's not specifically stated in the warrior code so we can't do it!!1!1!" Jeez, Hollyleaf, chill out! Do we seriously need to make a special edition of the warrior code just for her listing everything in life that may or may not be allowed?! If the code told her not to eat, she would starve to death!
Anyway, the other reason that I don't like Hollyleaf is because of her reasons for killing Ashfur. She (along with much of the fandom) argues that she needed to kill Ashfur in order to defend or even save her Clan. The only cat she was defending by killing him was, that's right, herself! Seriously, what's the worst that could happen if the other cats had found out she was half-Clan? No physical harm would come to any of the Clans. At the worst, Leafpool, Squirrelflight, and Crowfeather would be exiled for betraying their Clans. Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Brambleclaw would not be punished because they did not know that they were half-Clan. You'd think Hollyleaf, with her hatred of Leafpool and Squirrelflight and her crazed defense of the warrior code, would be glad to see them go! Hollyleaf was so devastated to be half-Clan because she thought she was a living mistake, whereas all the other half-Clan cats, like Feathertail, did not mind at all being half-Clan. One might argue that Hollyleaf was so angry because she did not know her whole life, unlike Feathertail, but I think that her love of the warrior code would have made her angry to be half clan no matter when she learned.
Disclaimer: I do not think Hollyleaf is evil. I just think that she is greedy, self-centered, bizarre, and idiotic. I'm sorry if the Hollyleaf fans were offended by this but this is just my opinion and I do not want to offend/hurt anyone.*puts paper bag over head and runs from the Hollyleaf fans*
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Post by Kibui on Oct 11, 2017 19:13:20 GMT -5
Anyway, the other reason that I don't like Hollyleaf is because of her reasons for killing Ashfur. She (along with much of the fandom) argues that she needed to kill Ashfur in order to defend or even save her Clan. The only cat she was defending by killing him was, that's right, herself! Seriously, what's the worst that could happen if the other cats had found out she was half-Clan? No physical harm would come to any of the Clans. At the worst, Leafpool, Squirrelflight, and Crowfeather would be exiled for betraying their Clans. Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Brambleclaw would not be punished because they did not know that they were half-Clan. To be fair, there was also the risk of the three, Leafpool, etc. getting socially isolated or harassed (in fact, that's probably what happened to Crowfeather after his elopement with Leafpool and Breezepelt did pick on the three more than once). I do agree, though, that the clans wouldn't be endangered by that. That's also why I'm bothered so much by the fact that almost everyone at the Gathering where Hollyleaf told the truth overreacted so much. I mean, ShadowClan and RiverClan weren't affected by this at all and WindClan and ThunderClan knew about LeafXCrow so it shouldn't have been that surprising that she actually had kits with him. Yes, this couple broke multiple codes at once but it wasn't like their relationship was a secret. With that said... I don't like Hollyleaf either because I find her to be a coward (for not telling the truth about killing Ashfur) and a hypocrite as well
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Post by kinkajou on Oct 11, 2017 19:40:02 GMT -5
I genuinely love reading warriors, no matter how badly written it is. I even enjoy oots actually. It seems lots of people here have given up on it :/
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Post by gonxkillua on Oct 11, 2017 20:41:41 GMT -5
I love the series no matter how poor the writing gets.
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Post by ApplesnapOfStormclan on Oct 11, 2017 21:07:03 GMT -5
Lionblaze is stupid Holyleaf is probably the poorest 4th poorest written cat in the whole series. Graystripe is unloyal because he loves a kittypet than the cat that died giving birth to his kits. Tigerstar is the 3rd most poorly written cat. Brackenfur is the best, and the sweetest cat in the series.
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Post by sunsethour66 on Oct 12, 2017 11:25:50 GMT -5
I love Ashfur. The series went downhill after The Darkest Hour. The Dark Forest is better than StarClan and it’s inhabitants were fun to read about. Lionblaze is bland with a bland personality and power. They should have ended the series after the Dawn of The Clans. I like Clear Sky. I’m neutral on Gray Wing. Firestar is overrated. Jayfeather is overrated, despite me liking him. Scourge is a cliched villain with a fanbase that could rival Jeff the Killer’s in terms of cringe. (No offence) I’m neutral on Hollyleaf, despite being a well-written character.
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Post by ApplesnapOfStormclan on Oct 12, 2017 20:22:10 GMT -5
I SHIP GOOSEFEATHER AND FEATHERWHISKER GOOSEWHISKER ALL THE WAY
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Post by DreadfulStar on Oct 16, 2017 15:34:39 GMT -5
Flametail didn't deserve to die just to be a poorly used plot device to taunt Ivypaw.
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Heyo, my OC's are Aspenpaw (fang), Auburnbreeze, Fallenpaw, and Flipfang
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Post by -Aspenpaw- on Oct 16, 2017 16:22:30 GMT -5
don't like shadowkit's name. ShadowClan - Shadowkit!!!! get it?
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Oct 16, 2017 16:55:03 GMT -5
Hollyleaf should have stayed dead.
I hate BlueXOak - it totally should have been BlueXCrooked instead. That would have made for a much more interesting relationship. Also, they were adorable at that one Gathering, and BlueXOak seemed to come out of nowhere whereas BlueXCrooked could have developed.
Graystripe was great in the beginning, but then he became comedic relief and he just got annoying. Never should have come back after being captured by Twolegs...
Bramblestar should never have become leader, and he DEFINITELY should not have made Squirrelflight deputy. Poor choices on everybody's part.
I hate Jayfeather. He's an annoying jerk to literally EVERYBODY. I get that he's bummed that he's blind and all, but like... Dude, that doesn't mean you have to hate everybody?
Whitestorm is totally underrated.
Spottedleaf shouldn't have died when she did. Also, killing her off in StarClan just so Firestar wouldn't have to choose between her and Sandstorm was just cruel. Let Firestar deal with his split love interests like the full-grown warrior that he is.
Sandstorm is completely underrated. She is an amazing character who seemed to just exist after TNP with no real purpose besides being Firestar's mate.
Brightheart is totally underrated and I hate Firestar for not giving her another apprentice after Jayfeather (you know, like he promised he would).
Longtail was blinded by a RABBIT? Seriously? This was totally just a way of getting rid of a character the Erins couldn't find anything to do with unless he was a blind elder.
Bluefur should have died instead of Snowfur.
Sorreltail is totally underrated.
I think crippling Briarlight completely ruined her personality.
BlossomXThorn is freaking CREEPY... Like, he is several generations older than her...??
Gray Wing was great until he got sick. Then he became annoying. He should have just died in the fire instead...
I feel like the Erins realized that they had too many characters so they just randomly killed off lesser characters between OOTS and VOS. Not cool, Erins. Not cool.
What is the point of Juniperkit and Dandelionkit (Squirrel and Bramble's kits that died before VOS started)? Like, they do nothing to move the plot... They shouldn't have even existed for that single paragraph they were mentioned. The book wouldn't have changed at all without them.
Blackstar was worse than Rowanstar.
Brackenfur's lack of depression after Sorreltail's death is disappointing. They were the cutest couple, and honestly, he should have been destroyed by her death.
Littlecloud should have died well before he did.
Foxleap and Dovewing would have been a much better ship than Tigerheart and Dovewing. That relationship is so on and off, it's obviously ONLY to move the plot along when it's convenient, and then it's gone when it's irrelevant, until it becomes necessary again.
Bluepaw should have died instead of Moonflower.
I personally like that all of the main POVs are related to Firestar or Tigerstar... It all started with Firestar and his conflict with Tigerstar, after all.
I loved Millie until she turned into a major jerk to her other kits after Briarlight's accident. No wonder Blossomfall ended up in the Dark Forest!
Thistleclaw totally belonged in the Dark Forest... I don't understand why people think otherwise.
I really liked the SpottedpawXThistleclaw thing... It was kind of creepy, but I think it was a really interesting relationship, way better than some of the more boring relationships.
Darkstripe is a terrible villain and a pointless character.
I don't like Lionblaze.
I hate Bluestar... There are so many characters who died where she should have instead... Snowfur, Moonflower, Mosskit... I blame Bluestar for all of them, and they all should have lived instead of her. They were better characters.
Cloudtail and Brightheart should have had more kits after Whitewing, but WAY before the ones they have in OOTS.
Tigerstar should have killed Leopardstar after they merged ShadowClan and RiverClan.
Tigerheart should not have ever become deputy, let alone leader? Like, what?
I'm glad Flametail died.
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Post by ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ on Oct 16, 2017 19:39:29 GMT -5
- TNP is my favorite arc. It is a beautiful masterpiece. - I really like Onestar, he's actually one of my favorite characters. I put him right next to Bramblestar. - Needletail reminds me of myself sometimes, so I kinda like her. - I find RiverClan hella boring, it's all about that WyndClan lyfe - Rise of Scourge is overrated, and so is Scourge in general. - People need to stop hating on ThunderClan just because they're main protagonist clan. It's as bad as loving ThunderClan because they're main protagonist clan. (*coughI'mbeingatotalhypocriteherecogh*)
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 18, 2017 10:52:45 GMT -5
I love Berrynose, Poppyfrost and their kits. All of them, and I will defend all of them.
I'm fine with Ashfur being in Starclan
I love AVOS, but all the main characters with POVs are rather boring for me. Alderheart, Violetpaw, Twigpaw, they all kind of bother me.
Rowanstar deserved so much better.
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Post by lilyshinemedicinecat on Oct 19, 2017 18:39:35 GMT -5
I hate BlueXOak - it totally should have been BlueXCrooked instead. That would have made for a much more interesting relationship. Also, they were adorable at that one Gathering, and BlueXOak seemed to come out of nowhere whereas BlueXCrooked could have developed. I agree with everything you said exept being glad that Flametail died(he's my favorite Warriors character and is so underrated), Darkstripe being a bad villain(idk why but he reminds me of Kylo Ren, my favorite Star Wars character and the BEST Star Wars villain) and that Blackstar was worse than Rowanstar(Rowanstar is so annoying idk). I especially agree with you with the BlueXOak thing. BlueXCrooked would have been so interesting, especially with the Mapleshade drama going on. Would Mapleshade kill Bluefur to stop her from having a relationship with Crookedjaw/star, leaving him free to pursue his romance with Willowbreeze so she could kill her too? That would have cool to see, and I think Snowfur would have been a fantastic leader in Bluestar's place.
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Post by lilyshinemedicinecat on Oct 19, 2017 18:42:20 GMT -5
Lionblaze is stupid Holyleaf is probably the poorest 4th poorest written cat in the whole series. Graystripe is unloyal because he loves a kittypet than the cat that died giving birth to his kits. Tigerstar is the 3rd most poorly written cat. Brackenfur is the best, and the sweetest cat in the series. i agree with all of these
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Post by dashingshadows on Oct 19, 2017 18:58:01 GMT -5
Ravenpaw's Farewell wasn't that good.
Moth Flight's Vision was amazing.
There needs to be a new, non-Firestar related main character.
Hollyleaf was the best out of the three.
I despise the fact that Millie, Daisy, and Purdy didn't take on true clan names. They all suck as characters.
The Rise of Scourge is the best manga. //not sure if that is unpopular whoops Basically all these plus I'm glad Needletail died--it was the only way to redeem her I don't mind the Greystripe design from his maga, but I do think it's weird I like BlossomxThorn more than BlossomxIvy, they don't have a history of hurt between them Breezepelt is not an innocent victim
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Post by memri TV on Oct 19, 2017 20:03:20 GMT -5
onestar did nothing wrong
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My full names are Hollyleaf;) and Snowwing™
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Post by Holly Snow on Oct 20, 2017 13:36:13 GMT -5
I seem to be the only one that dislikes Hollyleaf. Hollyleaf is my least favorite character in any fandom, book series, movie, or TV show and she always will be. That is because she just has a really bizarre, unnatural, underdeveloped personality. She's thought of by much of the fandom as being kind and caring, when she is actually not all that nice at all. I'm offended that this is your straw man of us. There are many things Hollyleaf is, but I wouldn't describe her as "kind and caring". Also she is not under developed. The erins disserviced her by never giving her arc any resolution. That being said I will admit I'm surprised more people don't find Hollyleaf more off putting. She takes law to the extreme and applies it where it shouldn't be. She uses so much energy thinking about the code but she never finds a way to reconcile it with reality nor recognize its contradictions. Law was god to her and she couldn't accept it being anything but perfect and that was her downfall. I'm surprised people don't find that more frustrating about her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 18:41:18 GMT -5
my mans crowfeather is one of the most real [ do not bypass censors, thanks] characters personality wise Firestar aint no mary sue smh Needletails hella gucci squirrelflight issa g graystripe is a ratchet [ do not bypass censors, thanks] dad and shouldnt never have more kids dovewing isnt that bad ashfur wasnt jus a petty crybaby and has more to his mentality. [his actions cannot be excused tho, he did some nasty shiiii] even tho the new prophecy was hella chaotic and low key badly written i was living for that arc thornxblossom is a gucci [do not bypass censors, thanks] ship and no one can tell me it isnt rowanstar is a rly cool character and im LIVING FOR IT rain was gucci, i really liked him. darktail was pre gucci but hes not too memorable for me, im sleepin on mapleshade
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 8:16:23 GMT -5
Tigerheart's Shadow was really good
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