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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 14:34:04 GMT -5
I feel like the SA location would make it much more of a unique RP. BAD NEWS: Unfortunately, wolves were introduced to Yellowstone in 1995, long after 1920. Therefore, there wouldn't be any wolves in Yellowstone regardless of the time in which the RP took place. Hmm. Well, I take that back. Wolves were apparently in Yellowstone as early as the 1920s, but people treated them like nuisances and killed them off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 14:59:06 GMT -5
Sorry. Lost my computer there for a while. Where should I jump back in?)) [Anywhere! Just make sure to read everything.] Speaking of the pack in general, why not begin developing ranks? I have some ranks in mind. (I take back the 'ragtag' idea. If we had an unorganized pack, the ranks and RP would both be less complex.)
Option 1 (IN ORDER OF RANK) DOMINANT RANKS Alpha Male/Female
Alpha Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Elders
Alpha Successor(s)
Beta Successor(s)
SUBMISSIVE RANKS
Scouters
Hunters
Patrollers
Sentries Medics
Apprentices
OmegaSubordinates
[If you have any ranks in mind, PLEASE add them!!!] Option 2[Your idea goes here] I also want to create some terminology.
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Post by lozi on Aug 12, 2016 17:42:07 GMT -5
Ok.)) Deltas are the hunters, at least that's the way I've always done it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 1:45:25 GMT -5
[Anywhere! Just make sure to read everything.] Speaking of the pack in general, why not begin developing ranks? I have some ranks in mind. (I take back the 'ragtag' idea. If we had an unorganized pack, the ranks and RP would both be less complex.)
Option 1 (IN ORDER OF RANK) DOMINANT RANKS Alpha Male/Female
Alpha Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Elders
Alpha Trainee(s)
Beta Trainee(s)
SUBMISSIVE RANKS
Scouters
Hunters
Patrollers
Sentries Medics
Apprentices
OmegaSubordinates[If you have any ranks in mind, PLEASE add them!!!] Option 2[Your idea goes here] I also want to create some terminology. I wanted to have a lot of ranks because it makes the pack unique. Here's an introduction I've written.
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Post by lozi on Aug 14, 2016 5:51:57 GMT -5
Alright, those ranks are great! The one's I were thinking of were the simple Alpha Beta Deltas Omega Etc. However, we could add Mother Dogs/Pups, and separate sections for the Apprentices from Scouts to Medics. However, you could have apprentices taught all skills and assessed at the end on which category they fall under. Lead Scouts, Hunters, and Patrollers. Pupsitter? Sentinel: There are four sentinels, two mated pairs, in the pack. Each pair is specially chosen by the alphas and betas. The alphas and betas train the sentinels to take their places if anything should happen to them. The sentinels, since becoming one can start as early as one year, don't usually have authority over the pack unless the alpha or beta have publicly given it to them. They are respected though. Messing with a sentinel is messing with the alphas and betas themselves. This rank cannot be challenged whatsoever. Read more: xorderofthewolfx.proboards.com/thread/22/pack-rank-meanings#ixzz4HIpPcbV5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 14:23:12 GMT -5
The Alpha and Beta Trainees are essentially 'Sentinels', but with a different name. I would rather not change 'Alpha/Beta Trainee' to 'Sentinel' because the word Sentinel has nothing to do with an Alpha/Beta Trainee.
As for the general Greek alphabet approach, I like to label ranks in accordance to what they are and what their purposes are. A Greek letter as the name of a rank seems vague from my perspective, and I like to keep things self-explanatory.
As for the Mother/Pup ranks, I didn't add those particular ranks because they will typically be vacant, unlike the Hunter ranks, etc. They are valid ranks, however.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 14:47:45 GMT -5
The Alpha and Beta Trainees are essentially 'Sentinels', but with a different name. I would rather not change 'Alpha/Beta Trainee' to 'Sentinel' because the word Sentinel has nothing to do with an Alpha/Beta Trainee.
As for the general Greek alphabet approach, I like to label ranks in accordance to what they are and what their purposes are. A Greek letter as the name of a rank seems vague from my perspective, and I like to keep things self-explanatory.
As for the Mother/Pup ranks, I didn't add those particular ranks because they will typically be vacant, unlike the Hunter ranks, etc. They are valid ranks, however. I think I'll change 'Alpha/Beta Trainee' to 'Alpha/Beta Successor'. It seems more fitting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 14:56:20 GMT -5
The Lead Scouter/Hunter/Patroller ranks would not be obtainable by an Apprentice or inexperienced dog. Think of these ranks as the equivalent of the 'Senior Warrior' rank. Lead Scouts/Hunters/Patrollers would be chosen by their superiors [e.g. the Alphas, Betas, etc.]
I think Apprentices should receive training from every rank above Omega and below Beta Successor. There wouldn't be an assessment; to make things less complicated, the Alphas or Betas would decide when Apprentices were ready to take on higher ranks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 15:07:18 GMT -5
The Lead Scouter/Hunter/Patroller ranks would not be obtainable by an Apprentice or inexperienced dog. Think of these ranks as the equivalent of the 'Senior Warrior' rank. Lead Scouters/Hunters/Patrollers would be chosen by their superiors [e.g. the Alphas, Betas, etc.]
I think Apprentices should receive training from dogs of every rank above Omega and below Beta Successor. There wouldn't be an assessment; to make things less complicated, the Alphas or Betas would decide when Apprentices were ready to take on higher ranks.
BTW, the Subordinate rank is where recruits and other generally unfamiliar dogs would be placed. This rank is also where suspicious or untrustworthy dogs would be placed if they were not killed, formally executed, formally exiled, or driven out by force. This rank is below even Omega.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 15:11:33 GMT -5
The Lead Scouter/Hunter/Patroller ranks would not be obtainable by an Apprentice or inexperienced dog. Think of these ranks as the equivalent of the 'Senior Warrior' rank. Lead Scouters/Hunters/Patrollers would be chosen by their superiors [e.g. the Alphas, Betas, etc.]
I think Apprentices should receive training from dogs of every rank above Omega and below Beta Successor. There wouldn't be an assessment; to make things less complicated, the Alphas or Betas would decide when Apprentices were ready to take on higher ranks.
BTW, the Subordinate rank is where recruits and other generally unfamiliar dogs would be placed. This rank is also where suspicious or untrustworthy dogs would be placed if they were not killed, formally executed, formally exiled, or driven out by force. This rank is below even Omega. I've compiled some pack penalties. I'm still working on the general law enforcement system and list of laws.
Execution Execution is basically a formal way of dying, as opposed to the 'regular' death penalty. The Alpha is traditionally the one to do the executing, and is also the overseer of the execution. Besides that fact, ways of execution differ greatly, from a slash or bite to the neck to more . . . . creative methods.
Exile The exile penalty is rarely put into effect, in that it is more effective to kill a wrongdoer instead. When it does occur, however, it is simple and efficient.
Death This penalty is exactly what it sounds like: slow, agonizing, gruesome death, quick and simple. Like the formal execution penalty, the immediate death penalty can be put into effect in various ways. This penalty is reserved for the worst of criminals, criminals so vile they do not deserve proper executions.
Mutilation The mutilation penalty is horrible in every way, but the pack doesn't seem to mind.
Other Penalties These penalties could be anything, from imprisonment to self-inflicted death. Since the Alpha's word is law, these penalties are technically legal, and the pack will go along with them without question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 14:37:28 GMT -5
BTW, the Subordinate rank is where recruits and other generally unfamiliar dogs would be placed. This rank is also where suspicious or untrustworthy dogs would be placed if they were not killed, formally executed, formally exiled, or driven out by force. This rank is below even Omega. I've compiled some pack penalties. I'm still working on the general law enforcement system and list of laws.
Execution Execution is basically a formal way of dying, as opposed to the 'regular' death penalty. The Alpha is always the overseer of executions, and will traditionally be the executer. Besides that fact, ways of execution differ greatly, from a slash or bite to the neck to more . . . . creative methods.
Exile The exile penalty is rarely put into effect, in that it is more effective to kill a wrongdoer instead. When it does occur, however, it is simple and efficient.
Death This penalty is exactly what it sounds like: slow, agonizing, gruesome death, quick and simple. Like the formal execution penalty, the immediate death penalty can be put into effect in various ways. This penalty is reserved for the worst of criminals--criminals so vile they do not deserve proper executions.
Mutilation This penalty is pretty much what it sounds like: the criminal is maimed. If he or she doesn't immediately die, the criminal is either exiled or demoted to a very lowly status.
Other Penalties Since the Alpha's word is law, if he or she sentences a wrongdoer to a punishment that is not listed here, the rest of the pack must go along with it. These penalties could be anything, from imprisonment to self-inflicted death.
Could someone please reply?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 23:29:02 GMT -5
I have some ranks in mind. (I take back the 'ragtag' idea. If we had an unorganized pack, the ranks and RP would both be less complex.)
Option 1 (IN ORDER OF RANK) DOMINANT RANKS Alpha Male/Female
Alpha Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Beta Male/Female
Elders
Alpha Trainee(s)
Beta Trainee(s)
SUBMISSIVE RANKS
Scouters
Hunters
Patrollers
Sentries Medics
Apprentices
OmegaSubordinates[If you have any ranks in mind, PLEASE add them!!!] Option 2[Your idea goes here] I also want to create some terminology. I wanted to have a lot of ranks because it makes the pack unique. Here's an updated list of ranks: ALPHA
[0/2] The Alphas are the supreme commanders of the pack. They are naturally dominant, and they will often display this dominance in order to induce submission from their underlings. The Alphas are basically a replacement for human masters, often ensuring discipline and reinforcing laws like a human master would. BETA
[0/2] The Betas are the Alphas' sidekicks, often shadowing them during their daily lives. The Betas are almost indistinguishable from the Alphas due to the similarity of both ranks. In fact, much of what you need to learn about Betas is listed above. Despite their shared characteristics, however, the Betas will still submit to the Alphas, if required. ELDERS
[0/7] The Elders are the oldest and most experienced dogs. They are respected by all pack members, although they still must submit to their superiors. A dog must be 7 years or older in order to become an Elder. CHAMPION
[0/1] Champions are the most skilled gladiators in the pack. They are often treated like delicate lapdogs by their superiors, especially the Alphas, who enjoy taking advantage of the Champions. After at least five wins, most gladiators are set up against the Champion. ALPHA SUCCESSORS
BETA SUCCESSORS
SPIES
ASSASSINS
GUARDIANS
LEAD HUNTER
HUNTERS
LEAD PATROLLER
PATROLLERS
LEAD SENTRY
SENTRIES
LEAD MEDIC
MEDICS
APPRENTICES
OMEGA
SUBORDINATES
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Post by lozi on Aug 28, 2016 22:41:53 GMT -5
So sorry for leave! Our power dropped and it took forever to get the people out to fix it. ;( //
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 14:22:17 GMT -5
So sorry for leave! Our power dropped and it took forever to get the people out to fix it. ;( // I thought you'd quit or something. Phew. I've actually kind of developed some of the project without you. Sorry. I honestly thought you'd left. It's not that I think you're horrible enough to abandon someone, though. IDK Well, here are the changes I've made: The RP is no longer located in South America, but instead a mountainous region I'm still developing. I've developed an application.
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Post by lozi on Aug 31, 2016 19:46:50 GMT -5
No worries. No offense taken. Alright. The ranks look great! A mountainous region would be good, since it would just be easier to know all the creatures around there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 0:38:38 GMT -5
Hey. I've been philosophizing about some new ranks lately, but I haven't exactly created them yet. I'm just really keen to create some ranks that work well for everyone, you know? The same goes for everything else having to do with this project. Everything needs to be right.
I apologize for seeming so . . . . selfish all the time. I hardly include you in the project, and whenever you propose an idea, I almost always end up shooting it down. Oh, well. No time for me to mope around now. The project has been at a major standstill as of late, and that is the complete opposite of what it needs to be. We REALLY need to get moving. Not in the physical sense, of course. Ha. You understand what I mean. We can't just stand around forever as if all the work we've commited ourselves to is going to complete itself. I know this RP is going to take some serious effort, but that's how all things are.
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Post by lozi on Sept 3, 2016 13:51:47 GMT -5
Hey, no worries! I don't feel like you are being selfish, or shooting my ideas down. You always have a proper reason, and an alternative that makes more sense than mine. It's not like you're saying "Well your idea is cra.p so let's think of something else."
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Post by lozi on Sept 3, 2016 13:52:22 GMT -5
If you want to share the ranks with me, I could help you develop them. Is there anything that you would like me to work on?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 14:50:21 GMT -5
If you want to share the ranks with me, I could help you develop them. Is there anything that you would like me to work on? As for the rank thing, of course! I've developed a few sets of ranks but most of them have already been deleted or revised. Oops. Here's the application I've created. It's pretty complex and it has a lot of subcategories, but that's just how I like to do things Note the differing typefaces, which, OBVIOUSLY, are explained in the key below. [Emboldened = Subcategory] [Italicized = Optional] NAME Surname
Formal Title(s)
Nickname(s)
AGE BIRTHDAY GENDER BREED RANK PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION Height (at the withers):
Weight (in lbs.):
Build:
Eye Color:
Fur Color:
Fur Length:
Fur Texture: Mutations/Deformities:
*Not all characters can have mutations/deformities. Like all characters, deformed characters must be pre-approved by a founder (that's us) prior to RPing. Altered?
Infertile?
GENERAL APPEARANCE PERSONALITY BACKSTORY SCENT OTHER [The recurring capitalization makes it seem like I'm screaming the words or something. Sorry for that.]
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Post by lozi on Sept 7, 2016 20:40:08 GMT -5
Well, the whole form looks good except for alteration. Dogs would not be altered, as no humans would be around to preform the operation. ||
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:56:52 GMT -5
Well, the whole form looks good except for alteration. Dogs would not be altered, as no humans would be around to preform the operation. || Oh. Yeah. I just added the alteration thing on impulse. A few humans are still around in in the dog world; maybe a hundred or so. One will occasionally show up and the dogs will kill it. The dogs will sometimes raid human settlements, too, and ravage all the huts and kill people and steal stuff. The few ranches and farms that exist are really fun for them to raid; plus, there are often livestock guardian dogs that are fun to take captive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:03:00 GMT -5
Here's a rank list. AGAIN. (The tiers don't actually exist. They're just meant to indicate the differences between ranks.)
TIER 1 The Powerful
Alpha
THE FORMIDABLE
[0/2]
Beta
THE SIDEKICK
[0/2]
Veterans
THE ELDERLY
[0/5]
Champion
THE PET
[0/1]
TIER 2 The Strong
Chaperones
THE BODYGUARDS
[0/7]
TIER 3 The Average
Hunt Captain
THE PREDATORY
[0/1]
The Hunt Captain is the commander of the Hunters. One of his most important duties is to assign Hunters particular positions within the Phalanx. He also decides where the Hunting Phalanx will voyage and chooses which prey they will pursue. He is the immediate inferior of the Alpha and Beta if they choose to accompany the Hunters on a voyage. If this does occur, the Alpha may temporarily assume the Hunt Captain’s duties for the span of the hunt, in that it is his right as leader, but it is not compulsory that he do this.
Hunters
THE PREDATORY
[0/10]
The Hunters are a virtuous, innocent contingent, sometimes brutal or bloodthirsty without knowing it. They are caring at heart, always willing to take risks in order to nourish the pack. The Hunters have enormous prey drives, which, unfortunately, can cause many to generalize them as murderers. Watch Captain
THE WATCHMEN/WOMEN
[0/1]
Sentinels
THE WATCHMEN/WOMEN
[0/10]
Patrol Captain
THE TERRITORIAL
[0/1]
Patrollers
THE TERRITORIAL
[0/10]
TIER 3 The Disrespected
Medics
THE HEALERS
Apprentices
THE UNLEARNED
TIER 4 The Loathed
Initiates
THE ACCEPTED
Subordinates
TIER 5 The Untrustworthy
Omega
THE HERMIT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:19:24 GMT -5
That rank list got all mixed up. AAHAHHGJ. The Subordinates are The Untrustworthy, the Initiates are The Accepted, and the Omega is a part of The Loathed.
Okay. Now I'm going to take a bit of time to explain the applying/joining process. (You don't have to do all this; you'll be accepted regardless. That's one of the perks of being a founder.)
'AUDITIONS'
1. Check to see if The Wilderness is accepting new characters. If The Wilderness is open, check to see if the rank you'd like is available.
2. Work on your application. Please remember to put lots of thought into your character; if you do this, you will have a better chance of being accepted. After completing your application, please remember to check for any flaws before sending it in.
3. Submit your application to a founder (Mongrel or Battle Scars). Do not message the founder personally; post your application on The Wilderness (NOT THE PLANNING PAGE; THE REAL PAGE.)
4. Wait for a founder to reply to you. While you are waiting, a founder is probably reviewing the application. If all goes well, you will be accepted. If not, you will be rejected. If you are rejected, a founder will message you personally and explain to you why you were rejected. After you are rejected, you are free to submit another application or the same application, but edited.
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Post by lozi on Sept 9, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -5
I think that the medics should move up in the ranks. I can help develop ranks, if you'd like.
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Post by lozi on Sept 9, 2016 15:28:33 GMT -5
Well, the whole form looks good except for alteration. Dogs would not be altered, as no humans would be around to preform the operation. || Oh. Yeah. I just added the alteration thing on impulse. A few humans are still around in in the dog world; maybe a hundred or so. One will occasionally show up and the dogs will kill it. The dogs will sometimes raid human settlements, too, and ravage all the huts and kill people and steal stuff. The few ranches and farms that exist are really fun for them to raid; plus, there are often livestock guardian dogs that are fun to take captive.
Can my sheepdog be a captive livestock dog in the beginning of the RP and eventually work his way into Alpha/Beta? ||
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:29:26 GMT -5
Oh. Yeah. I just added the alteration thing on impulse. A few humans are still around in in the dog world; maybe a hundred or so. One will occasionally show up and the dogs will kill it. The dogs will sometimes raid human settlements, too, and ravage all the huts and kill people and steal stuff. The few ranches and farms that exist are really fun for them to raid; plus, there are often livestock guardian dogs that are fun to take captive.
Can my sheepdog be a captive livestock dog in the beginning of the RP and eventually work his way into Alpha/Beta? || Of course. All I ask is that he be a crossbreed since, given the poor condition of the world at that point, I doubt anyone would bother to preserve purebred bloodlines, be they human or dog.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:41:46 GMT -5
I think that the medics should move up in the ranks. I can help develop ranks, if you'd like. Given how brutal the dogs are when it comes to everything else, I doubt they'd really care about whether the Medics were treated well or not.
Speaking of the Medic, I think it'd be much simpler to have all dogs be taught basic healing remedies by the Medic. The Medic would be the only dog to treat more significant issues such as mortal wounds and illnesses like sarcoptic mange. The Medic would also be the one to 'dispose of' dogs who were ill to the point of being dangerous (e.g. dogs with rabies). The Medic would also be a spiritual healer and a prophet of the 'Gods' the dogs worship (Cathal, God of war and combat, Probus, God of virtue, humbleness and morality, Emre, God of pack togetherness/pack hierarchy, Tapio, God of the hunt, and Modher, God of maternal/paternal instinct.)
Given the 'prophet' thing, I suppose the Medic should be directly below the Alpha and Beta in the hierarchy.
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Post by lozi on Sept 13, 2016 15:28:19 GMT -5
Yeah. I see what you mean. ||
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Post by Winona on Sept 13, 2016 16:36:48 GMT -5
Ooh, this looks so cool. o.o I'll probably end up joining this when you guys are done. =3
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 14:39:52 GMT -5
I think that the medics should move up in the ranks. I can help develop ranks, if you'd like. Given how brutal the dogs are when it comes to everything else, I doubt they'd really care about whether the Medics were treated well or not.
Speaking of the Medic, I think it'd be much simpler to have all dogs be taught basic healing remedies by the Medic. The Medic would be the only dog to treat more significant issues such as mortal wounds and illnesses like sarcoptic mange. The Medic would also be the one to 'dispose of' dogs who were ill to the point of being dangerous (e.g. dogs with rabies). The Medic would also be a spiritual healer and a prophet of the 'Gods' the dogs worship (Cathal, God of war and combat, Probus, God of virtue, humbleness and morality, Emre, God of pack togetherness/pack hierarchy, Tapio, God of the hunt, and Modher, God of maternal/paternal instinct.)
Given the 'prophet' thing, I suppose the Medic should be directly below the Alpha and Beta in the hierarchy. Added some new Gods.
I personally think of Cathal as a Chow Chow in armor, Probus as a Great Dane/Poodle mix, Emre as a fierce and noble Doberman/Shiloh Shepherd mix wearing a spiky headpiece, Tapio as a Scottish Deerhound, and Modher as a Karelian Bear Dog mix wearing a deerskin cloak.
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