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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Apr 30, 2017 16:35:52 GMT -5
*blatantly disregards the rule of deputies/leaders being mentors*
Ivypool ftw. As overrated as she may be, she is both qualified and capable, and is the only one of her generation mature enough for the responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 16:44:48 GMT -5
of flipping course there's ivypool. most overrated character to this day. my god. i am not in a good mood today, idk whats happening sorry
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Post by Gяαч Sкч on Apr 30, 2017 17:31:39 GMT -5
Pip is clearly the only right choice. Even though he died a long time ago, his ghost is the rightful leader of ThunderClan. He will make ThunderClan great again.
Pipstar for leader.
Seriously though anyone but Ivypool. She is so overrated. I hope Squirrelflight will live to be leader. I like her.
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Post by Tas on Apr 30, 2017 17:37:05 GMT -5
I don't think Squirrelstar will happen. It'll probably be Brackenfur or something stupid.
But actually, maybe Cinderheart? Bumblestripe would be OK too, I think.
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Post by Amber on Apr 30, 2017 18:08:38 GMT -5
Cherrystar anyone? It's probably not going to happen because she's not important enough or related to Firestar, but one can hope.
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Post by Tas on Apr 30, 2017 18:08:55 GMT -5
Nah, I don't think so.
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Post by finland on Apr 30, 2017 18:33:15 GMT -5
Pip.
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Post by Alli on Apr 30, 2017 18:37:25 GMT -5
of flipping course there's ivypool. most overrated character to this day. my god. i am not in a good mood today, idk whats happening sorryIKR! I love Ivypool, but I feel like she is a bit overrated. Also, I think I'm the only person who actually likes Dovewing.
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Post by Alli on Apr 30, 2017 18:40:52 GMT -5
Thornstar anyone? I feel like TC needs a leader who is stubborn but fair, isn't too soft, doesn't accept every kittypet friend into the clan, and isn't always asking himself 'What would Firestar do?'. I may have exaggerated a bit, but I just feel like Thornclaw would be the perfect TC leader.
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Post by lilaceyes on Apr 30, 2017 18:45:22 GMT -5
I can see Lionblaze as next leader, but that seems like it would be too obvious of a choice. I think Ivypool would be a nice leader. I think she's actually really matured since the whole Dark Forest thing and she knows the warrior code and follows it.
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Post by Fallenstep on Apr 30, 2017 20:59:40 GMT -5
A part of me says Ivypool mostly because she is one of my favorites and she did convince some cats to fight for the Clans during the Dark Forest Battle. But at the same time I don't, because I remember reading something saying that she would end up similar to Bluestar towards the end and I don't really want that.
Berrynose because he would be vastly different from the past two Leaders and it would be interesting to see ThunderClan as sort of jerks instead of the heroes (maybe bringing back SkyClan will give us POVs about them instead??).
Honestly though we'd need a youngish cat as Deputy because they seem to last (save for Mistystar that I didn't expect to live), so new generation wise I'd say Cherrytail or someone else around her age or younger.
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Post by Pyropelt on Apr 30, 2017 22:17:52 GMT -5
What about Ambermoon? I think she would be a good leader. Ooh or even Lilyheart! Yeah if Ambermoon doesn't work out, I'd choose her!
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on May 1, 2017 0:13:38 GMT -5
Sprakpelt because that's just how that family goes. XD
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 1, 2017 3:33:24 GMT -5
I don't think Ivypool is overrated like people claim she is. It's just that when it always comes to, "Who do you think should be the next leader of ThunderClan" etc, she always tends to win. So far she's shown plenty of leadership qualities thanks to her development. She's had two apprentices so far, one of which is now a successful warrior. She played a major part in defeating the Dark Forest, convincing other trainees for fight for their clan not against them. She helped with training sessions to fight against badgers, giving important yet ruthless techniques the younger cats can use against them. Her abilities puts her on par with being one of the strongest cats in the clan, possibly even more than Lionblaze, who is powerless now. She got where she is now without special powers, climbing from the piles of death and darkness of the Dark Forest to overcome her inner demons. She's matured well, she's closer to her sister, a good figure to look up too, and is an active member of her clan when it comes to hunting and fighting, along with having a level head in decision making. She's a quick thinker, doesn't give up easily, and knows how to hold her own. She's also shown to have a more tender and playful side through her interactions with Dovewing, Bumblestripe and now Fernsong.
She has so much personality, growth and skills. I think out of all the characters right now, she's definitely the most qualified. If I didn't have to choose her, my second choice would be Berrynose, he seems to be maturing as well, but he needs and apprentice soon. I wonder if Bramblestar thinks he's ready for one now, after BrS. I also want to see ThunderClan get another she-cat leader, I never cared much for Bluestar, Firestar was okay, not a fan of Bramblestar, so I think under Ivypool, or Ivystar the Clan would flourish. She'd be a fiercely loyal, yet compassionate type of leader, maybe similar to Nightstar of Shadowstar. I also want to see her in a high position with kits, possibly with Fernsong, since Squirrelflight apparently did this as well, but we never got to see how that worked out. And the closest we got was with Leafstar, but she's SkyClan's leader and they go by a different set of rules. Lastly, Ivypool, imo, is in the perfect age range for the next deputy of TC, she's not to old, and she's not to young. I feel like her becoming deputy could also be a call back to Hollyleaf and how she wanted to be leader but never got the chance again.
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Post by Snowfire on May 1, 2017 5:07:26 GMT -5
Hmm... Maybe Hollytuft or Lionblaze.
Brackenfur and Thornclaw would make good leaders, but they are way too old. I honestly doubt that they will outlive Bramblestar.
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Post by mimikyutie on May 1, 2017 5:43:29 GMT -5
I used to want Brackenstar so badly, but at this point he's pretty old.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 6:23:10 GMT -5
We need a mainly younger charecter. Well not like newly made warrior but therye experienced. Have Leading abilities. I think that Ivypool would be right for the spot.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 6:24:11 GMT -5
I would choose Cloudtail but he isn't much younger than Brackenfur and Thornclaw.
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Post by Woofzie on May 1, 2017 6:25:03 GMT -5
NOT Rosepetal
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on May 1, 2017 6:56:47 GMT -5
Brackenfur, Thornclaw, Cloudtail and Brightheart are too old to be leaders.
Whitewing and Birchfall are also verging on a little too old.
I don't think Squirrelflight would make a good leader. In my opinion, she doesn't possess the qualities of a leader.
So, ruling all of them out, the only character that stands out to me is Ivypool. She's strong, loyal and has been through a lot. Her personality is more 'leader-like'. She's not my favourite character or anything but I think she's perfect for the job. I'd also love to see another female Thunderclan leader.
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Post by Moonblazer on May 1, 2017 9:38:07 GMT -5
Ivypool because she has great leadership qualities and I also love collecting the tears of the ones who cry that Ivypool is overrated haha.
Berrynose would be so interesting as a leader. Who says that every leader has to be the most "mature" and "accepting" cat in the world. I'm bored with mature and carbon copy leaders for Thunderclan. Besides, everyone else seems fine to be given a chance, but seemingly Berrynose is some annoying devil spawn who could never be a leader. *Shrug*
Maybe Cherry or Rose as well, but I want either Ivypool or Berrynose.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 10:55:25 GMT -5
Ivypool, because bias aside she really is the only one qualified- and the obvious choice. She meets all the requirements of a deputy/leader according to the series history 1. She had a POV, 2. She was a hero in some way, 3. She continues to be a major character and hasn't faded into the background (being Twigpaw's mentor), and 4. She's well respected in the clan. There aren't many other characters in the series that meet those standards as well as she does.
The only thing making Ivypool doubtful is that Bramblestar has little to no connection to her, really, and Bramblestar seems the type of cat to only choose close family members or friends. Sure, he might choose her solely on her experience and leadership skills... but let's face it, Bramblestar's gotten kind of out of it since he became leader. I wouldn't be surprised if he went and chose Lionblaze "to show that he still sees him as his son and trusts him".
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 11:35:22 GMT -5
it's pointless making this while including overrated af ivypool because ivypool will win the poll :^I god i hate ivypool. so overrated. not even that great as people claim. it's just so annoying and unfair to everyone else in the poll
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Post by lazy penguin on May 1, 2017 11:38:10 GMT -5
it's pointless making this while including overrated af ivypool because ivypool will win the poll :^I god i hate ivypool. so overrated. not even that great as people claim. it's just so annoying and unfair to everyone else in the poll Dude I get that you dislike Ivypool, and that's totally cool. But how us it unfair to everyone else in the poll? The question was opinion based to which cat they thought was best. Just because Ivypool is winning, doesn't mean it's rigged.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 11:41:09 GMT -5
lazy penguinnot that it's rigged, it's just that she is super overrated and majority of people here worship her like the future leader they want her to be and im sitting here like "ok, that's unfair because EVERYONE will just ignore the other options to put ivypool on a pedestal for no reason"
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Post by Moonblazer on May 1, 2017 12:10:20 GMT -5
But...
Some people have a reason to like her, and insinuating that everyone who votes for Ivypool "worships" her like a mindless child is rather insulting.
It's understandable to dislike her, but my reasons for liking Ivypool to be leader have nothing to do with how much I like her or not. I enjoyed her character. Nobody else's opinions changed or affected that. It just so happens she's popular with alot of people, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I do not put her on a pedestal. It just so happens that I simply can't see many other cats shaped for leadership like I see her to be.
Feel how you want about it but it seems you're just insulting people for their opinions and generalizing everyone who thinks she'd be a decent leader.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 1, 2017 12:49:07 GMT -5
Some people actually did take the other cats into consideration though....and still chose Ivypool. There's literally nothing wrong with that either...
Squirrelflight is too old, also there's first deputy always dies curse. She's a good deputy but I doubt she'd make it to leadership.
Lionblaze has become reckless ever since he lost his powers, he's also too much of an obvious choice, because he's Bramblestar's "son". Imo I think Lionblaze is now too family-orientated to even consider wanting a higher position in the clan, like Dustpelt.
Cinderheart, she's a queen right now, and will most likely stay one until the end of the series. Yes she's a good cat, but imo she's never showed any leadership-qualities. Only things concerning medical skills, and being genuinely and okay cat. She's mostly just seen as Lionblaze's love interest in the plot anyways.
Brackenfur is too old, like Squirrelflight, I doubt he'd make it to leadership. I personally would have preferred if he was deputy before Bramblestar, at least long enough for Bramble to have an apprentice first. Also I would have even preferred Brackenstar, but imo I think it's too late for that now.
Thornclaw, much too old, he's old enough to be joining the Elders den by now, it's ridiclous that he even has kits tbh. If the Erins were going to give him kits, and a higher position they should have done it earlier. Also I wouldn't personally consider him a candidate due to how he hid during the DF fight until Ivypool persuaded him otherwise. I also fond it really strange for him to be a DF trainee, he's old enough to know cats like Tiger and Broken.
Rosepetal, imo, is too hot headed. In BrS she blatantly went over the border, in front of her clan leader, to pick a fight with WindClan and got rightfully swatted for it. Even Bramblestar had to command her back and scold her for her behavior. I don't think she's suited to be deputy.
Blossomfall imo is too mentally unstable, I'm not sure if Thornclaw is helping her with her depression, but I just never saw her as a leadership type. She'd definitely need much more development, but it seems her focus is on her new family right now not rising through the ranks.
Bumblestripe doesn't seem suited for deputy or leader either. From what we're shown he's mostly just thinking about Dovewing, or Briarlight, but mostly Dovewing. He's an okay warrior, but doesn't exactly have a development outside of his relationship with Dovewing.
When it comes to Hollytuft, we barely know much about her, I think people only want her to be deputy/leader because of her sharing Hollyleaf's name.
I actually do think Lilyheart would make a great deputy, better than Berrynose probably, but I don't see her being a leader. I personally would want to see more of her anyways, also she still needs an apprentice.
Fernsong is a sweet cat, but again, we don't know much about him, not to mention he hasn't had an apprentice yet.
Sparkpelt is fun to read about, she's spunky, but she's not fully matured yet, she needs more development, and needs and apprentice still.
Cloudtail, like Squirrelflight, Brackenfur and Thornclaw, is too old, so I don't see him becoming deputy. I'm also not big on a former kittypet becoming leader deal happening again.
Brightheart, is pretty much also too old, if she became leader she's just be another Mistystar, losing lives to old age.
Sorrelstripe, like Fernsong and Hollytuft, we barely know much about them and they haven't had an apprentice yet.
Pip is a dog.
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Post by Tas on May 1, 2017 13:51:26 GMT -5
Why do everyone think Brackenfur is younger than Thornclaw? They're from the same litter.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on May 1, 2017 14:01:35 GMT -5
I chose Ivypool. I've wanted her to be leader since OOTS. Idc if she's "overrated". She's the most qualified out of the rest of the cats at this point in time.
And seeing how the older warriors would be qualified, it's pointless to vote for them because they'll be dead/retired by the time Bramblestar dies. That's one of the reasons I didn't vote for Brackenfur. He's super old at this point, despite being a great candidate.
Also I want to mention that this poll isn't a contest. People voted their opinions. If you don't like it, well, that's too bad. Don't throw a temperature tantrum just because people like/support a character.
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Post by *Faith* on May 1, 2017 14:18:04 GMT -5
I want Cherryfall to become leader. Or Lilyheart, but mostly Cherryfall.
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