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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 3:49:26 GMT -5
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IC :: Shiva's fingers dug into her hands as he spoke. She looked down at the ground, getting just a little angry as he said all of that. When he finished, she looked up at him with a slightly fierce glare. "I didn't make fun of you- If it came across that way, I'm sorry- but it wasn't meant to- but if I didn't even know a quarter of the story, it was stupid to bring up as a comparison then, wouldn't it be? If you had noticed a long time ago and tried to help then, maybe I'd be more okay with help- but I've learned to handle things by myself so far- so help isn't needed anymore. The help came way too late- and I say nobody cares because they have other things in their life to worry about. They don't have time to worry about me and I've learned that- far too much. And if it you- a person who likes and tries to help people- then why didn't you do it sooner when I really needed the help and not just my only friends at the time not seeing the issue or blatantly ignoring it was there?"
"When I hung up, it was because I needed away from talking to people- so far it's my only opportunity to calm myself down anymore- it was the easiest thing to do- I don't want our friendship to end. I angry- furious that only now you wanted to help when it was way too late to do anything." Shiva paused to take a deep breath and close her eyes as she recalled what he said here. "You weren't the one who first offered friendship to me. You offered it to my brother- you helped him on our first day of school, but you never helped me from the start. The person who did is the person of our former band that you currently have hated the longest. Thaddeus was the one who offered friendship to me first and a place to sit and make friends, you were not." It bothered her a little he thought he had helped her then. He hadn't ever helped her. Out of the group of five, he had likely helped Ives, Thaddeus, he had helped Beau, but never her- she was the fifth person to join the friend group and she joined because of Thaddeus offering friendship- and only as a second thought, honestly, because of her brother.
"However, you should know that I can't stand being abandoned. Which is what everybody did. I was completely alone because everybody left- none of you who left the city said a goodbye to me- not a proper goodbye. THose who stayed just faded away from my life and I couldn't reach them again. My dad died and left me and my mother hardly came out of her room. I know what it's like to be abandoned which is why I simply wouldn't want to abandon anybody- but that's all I seem to be doing because I just need to get away from my stress at the moment. Which is why I ran away from home- and left my brother all alone- and because I can't stand my mother is why it seems like our friendship is falling now and I don't want that to happen!"
She paused herself for a moment. She knew what it was like to be abandoned all at once with nobody there to help her. And he acted as if it hadn't happened to her, that it had just happened to him and only him. As if nobody else could possibly know what it was like to be abandoned again and again. "If that's the case, then I should admit something too. Ever since you and Ives and Thaddeus and everyone I've ever known left, I've never trusted any of you to stay. I've learned to stop trusting people to stay because everybody has left. You have your brothers who are at least your hold and you know they won't leave ever- mine did. One of them stayed in his room and ignored the world- I haven't seen his face in a while, one has too many friends to deal with family- one has basically abandoned us for his new 'girlfriend,' and Beau- Beau has left because he is scared of repeating the past."
"And it has hurt so much to see each of you leave me alone so I would never wish that for anyone. Not only have I tried so hard to keep you all as friends now because you are all finally back- but I also didn't want any of you to feel alone. But apparently that just won't work..." She sucked at making sure people don't feel alone, but she couldn't keep them as friends. Tears started to stain down her cheeks before she tightened her closed eyes and fingernails dug deeper in the skin of her palm, causing light blood. "I'm always the odd one out- whenever there was an adventure to had I was never thought of to come with. It was always you, Ives, Thaddeus, and Beau, no matter your guys's relationship with one another. And it still feels like that. So I don't understand why you could ever possibly feel abandoned with all these people who care about you and are there for you! But I still tried to keep you all close because I don't have that- but no matter what, it just doesn't work out."
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 7:08:02 GMT -5
OOC: Oh boy. I might just not be seeing his side of the story but jeez Norman! Don't you think that's just a little bit harsh?! And childish? Saying that you'll never trust her again because of one fight?
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 9:07:16 GMT -5
OOC Morning!
Also Cloudy, he is being childish however he's also hurt and she mirrored a lot of the things that Thaddeus said and did, which made him think she was leaving him too, abandoning him, and that's a really, really sensitive topic for him.
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 9:26:19 GMT -5
OoC :: morning.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 9:29:01 GMT -5
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IC Once Shiva had finished, Norman glared at her again. "Maybe the reason you don't know more about it is because I don't feel like I can tell you without you making it sound like something simple, and something that obviously can't be scarring. Because so far it sure feels like you're the only one allowed to have problems, and it sure makes telling you anything a lot harder," he told her coldly.
Norman had tried his best not to snap again, to keep it under control but it was hard and he couldn't near the end. "Oh so I don't know what it's like to be abandoned? Yes, no one's left me. It isn't like I was abandoned by my real family when I was young, dropped on my brothers and told from a young age that no one wanted me!" He snapped. "Because that's what they did. The scientists would pull me aside, tell me that my own family didn't want me, that my brothers didn't want me either, they just had to put up with me, that no one wanted me. Maybe they're just words, but to a six year old who had spent the entire time of his life that he could remember trapped in a cold cell, with only three people there, it hurt and it stuck. It made me truly believe that I wasn't wanted, that in time, everyone would leave me," he continued, by now just letting out a waterfall of emotion.
"And then, people did leave me. Hazel, Nathen, Thaddeus, any 'friends' I had made before you guys, all people I had let in, even though I was afraid, all people I thought cared and wouldn't leave. But they did, and it hurt, each and every time," Normam continued fiercely, "Indigo! Someone I had accepted as one of my brothers, even after everything that had happened, someone I truly trusted and loved, left, and each time someone left, the more that fear, that stupid seed that those scientists planted, began to grow. You are talking to someone who has lived his whole life, expecting to be abandoned by everyone, and why? Because no one wants me, and no one ever did." he suddenly stopped, standing straight again as he glared at her. "But oh, just because I have three brothers who love me, and 'friends' who like my mask, the facade I put on, I couldn't possibly know what abandonment is. You're absolutely right, Shiva," he told her coldly. "As for when I left. You know I didn't want to, you know I had no choice, and you know that I stayed in contact, I made an effort to do that. Be mad at the others, sure, but I tried to stay in contact, and I did. That wasn't on me," He told her, his breathing short and ragged from the constant talking and yelling he had done.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 9:29:26 GMT -5
OOC Morning Creamy!
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 10:00:46 GMT -5
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IC :: "Then you wouldn't have had to have made it simple! I don't know what gave you the idea that I would need things simple and that I wouldn't understand something being scarring! I know scarring. I have scars on my mind and in my skin- I know people have problems and all this time I've been dealing with my own and trying to help others feel okay about their problems meanwhile. If anything, I have acted like I don't have any problems, because it's easiest for me to do without someone telling me than I need to this or that to fix everything," Shiva said in defense. Norman never tried to explain what had happened to him, not once, not unless someone directly asked. So acting like she was being cruel by not knowing about it was not her fault then.
"I did not say that you haven't been abandoned! But unlike you, not everybody has left you all that once, those scientists were lying obviously. That's all try did, right? Tried to hurt people by lying, torture, anyway possible? People have abandoned you- but not everybody, not all at once did they abandoned you and leave you thinking that you weren't worth the trouble of dealing with anymore and that you were causing too much stress on others. That you were unneeded and if you died maybe, maybe one or two people would care. If someone abandoned you, then you've been guard all your life and would know how to deal with it a little better rather than someone who grew up all her life believing people would just stay to have everybody disappear suddenly with no idea what was going on, other than the fact suddenly all the people she was attached you were leaving and didn't care about her enough to say a goodbye."
"At least you have your three brothers though. At least you have had somebody throughout your life that has actually stayed Norman! And the only reason why your friends like your mask are because you've never bothered to open up to any of us or trust us not to leave! Your mask is the only you I've known so it is not my fault that I've never known you! But you did have a choice when you left. Or at very least you could have said goodbye. To my face so I could wished you happy times as you explored the world with your brothers. You kept contact but- but you still weren't there. I couldn't tell you anything and expect you to help me because you were all the way across the planet. Something I hadn't even known until you contacted me, something you didn't tell me was happening."
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 10:29:33 GMT -5
OOC Honestly I feel so bad for both of them and this is just turning out messy.
IC Norman took a deep breath. He couldn't help but feel that she kept belittling his problems. So he just stopped, falling quiet. Then a good minute or so after Shiva had spoken, he continued. "It was too hard to say goodbye to anyone, at the time. I didn't say goodbye to Thaddeus, Beau, or Ives either," had told her, voice suddenly rather quiet. "As for my mask. Maybe I haven't shown anyone what's underneath, because when I start to, they leave. I know the scientists lied but that doesn't change the fact that from the time I was six years old, they told me things that have stuck with me, my entire life. Maybe they aren't as 'big' and 'real' as your problems. But they're there, and I'm not going to apologize for having them," he explained, no longer raising his voice, instead it was quiet, cold, soft.
"And I don't know what you expect me to say. When I help, I'm nosy and unnecessary. When I leave you alone, I'm uncaring. There's just no winning. What you went through was horrible, I'm not trying to say otherwise, but you are the one refusing to let me help. So don't get mad at me, when I don't. I want to tell you that I'm sorry, clearly I hadn't meant to help cause these problems for you, if I had known that it all hurt you so much, I would have tried to fix it. I'd like to tell you I'll do better now, and that maybe if you actually shared things with the rest of us, you wouldn't feel so left out. Before you and Beau came along, it was just me, Thaddeus, and Ives. We depended on each other-" them more than him but that wasn't the point. "Then when you and Beau joined in. At first, neither of you really opened up, and then once someone did, it was Beau, not you," he told her slowly, folding his arms.
There was definitely some communication problems here, however this apology had only spiraled into something rather nasty, and Norman, for one, didn't feel like he could tell Shiva much of anything at this point. But at least he wasn't yelling anymore. "Now. Unless you plan on yelling at me some more, belittling my own issues-and before you snap, that's what you've been doing. This entire conversation, I haven't once said 'at least you had this' or 'you didn't have to go through this' or anything else. But you have and it makes me think you don't take what I've been through seriously. It makes it hard to want to share anything else," Norman continued.
"You've had it hard, and it must have hurt when we all left, but not once did I think you weren't worth the time. You and I are a lot more alike than you think. Considering we both want to help, we both have abandonment issues, we've both had people leave and we both refuse to let other people help. Hypocritical of us, isn't it?" He questioned, sending her a look. "However I'm beginning to think this wasn't a good idea. This isn't much of an apology on either of our parts, and instead somehow it turned into a 'who had it worse?' Game. If you want to calmly talk this through, I'll stay. If you plan on yelling at me some more. I think I'll just head home because I can't really deal with that right now," Norman explained coolly.
He was actually very close to breaking down. Shiva kept hitting at sensitive spots for him and Norman was doing his best to actually keep it in. Yelling would make things get messy, he cogldnt risk breaking down in front of her. He had a very small group of people who he had done that in front of, and for good reason. Norman was someone with major trust and abandonment issues, someone who had grown up expecting everyone to leave, to abandon him. He had grown up feeling like no one liked the real him, but was too afraid to take off the mask. He had to keep it together. People expected him too, and as he had learned, people expected him not to be scarred by anything that had happened to him. So this was him, trying to live up to that. Because Norman couldn't break down, Norman couldn't have problems and he was very, very, bitter about that.
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 10:57:42 GMT -5
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IC :: "I wish you had. If you had said goodbye I would have known that you cared about enough to- I would have tried to comfort you about leaving for so long and had a smile on my face and said something about can't waiting for you to return back here... But you should know, I wouldn't want to leave any of my friends no matter what- no matter what they are really like deep inside and hiding. As long as you aren't planning to kill my family that is, only exception. I wouldn't want you to apologize for having those problems- I would never expect you to..."
"And it's just now- in the present time that you are trying to help when I've figured out how to cope without.... without causing injury to myself. It's in the past I needed someone to help me.... but everyone was gone then. I can't deal with help anymore- I wouldn't know how to anymore- and there are some things I am unwilling to do. I'm a little glad- I'm a lot glad actually that you would want to help- but- I just can't deal with it anymore and I'm sorry for being so harsh when telling you I didn't want it or couldn't take it- or whatever- and instead yelling at you awful things..." Shiva paused for a moment before continuing quickly, "We were both just used to each other and our brothers and our parents- In the past I never had anything to share about myself- I was only a few months old and as I grew it was with all of you.... When you guys left I learned people wouldn't want to hear my problems- they were too 'depressing' and too 'awful' to hear about. And I was able to shovel it back, put a smile on my face and none of you noticed or mentioned anything otherwise, so it confirmed to me that people wouldn't want to hear."
"It's not that I don't take that seriously- but it seems like you've had it slightly better when it comes to people sticking around you! And it feels like you don't think that what's happened to me- I'm not even three years old yet!- is a lot less than what you've been through. I'm only trying to defend what I say- you were convinced you weren't wanted at three. I'm not three yet and everybody has left me-" because when it comes to things like this, she couldn't be a 16 year old- she hadn't lived 16 years, she just looked like she had. "You've been through things- but I have no idea what they are since you haven't ever told me-"
"I don't want to yell- I did want to apologize but you're the one who won't even accept it on the surface! For all the stuff you say that you have on a mask, you can't even pretend to forgive me- I'm wondering if you actually did want to be my friend- ever. I was willing to talk to you calmly at the start- you are acting as if I'm the one who immediately went on the defensive- I was just trying to apologize because I know what I said was wrong and I'm acknowledging it and asking for your forgiveness so we can still be friends- but you don't even seem to want that- it's like you can't stand people wanting to be your friend so when the opportunity comes you push them out... Did you ever even want me as a friend? Or was I really just a struggle? Just another person you had to pretend to be friends with until she was pushed to an edge she didn't want to go to and then you decide to go and use that against her as a reason why you and her will not be friends- even when she apologizes and just wants forgiveness because she doesn't want to lose someone again! Because I don't want to lose another person yet again- .... it's exactly what I feared... that you would still end up leaving after coming back...."
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 11:46:55 GMT -5
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IC "Don't make me out to be the bad guy. I'm not the villain here," or maybe he was. After hearing all of this, it did seem like Norman was awful, not that he had doubted that before, he had always known he was terrible, but a part of him had hoped that he wasn't. If that made sense. "Or do, maybe I am. Cause I'm not nice. I'm mean, I hold grudges, I'm petty, and childish, I lie, manipulate, hide behind a mask like a coward, push people just to see how far I can go. I'm horrible. I get that. But at no point, have I not wanted to be your friend," Norman told her, looking to her.
"Loyalty means everything to me. If I hadn't wanted to be your friend, I wouldn't have stuck around. I'm hesitant, to open up. Not just to you but to everyone. Not convinced? Ask Ives. G-- knows I've given him a h--- of a hard time getting close. I don't even know why he's still around, yet for some reason, he is. The point is, I don't even know how to properly open up. When I start to, people leave, and I'm...I'm terrified of having everyone leave. Because if they did, it's because of me, it's always been because of me, and I know I need to change, but I can't change who I am, I can change the mask to fit whoever wants it, but that's it. I would have helped you before, but I was half way across the world and so I couldn't," Norman told her, looking anywhere but her. He felt vulnerable and out in the open, he didn't have anywhere to hide and he hated it.
Finally he just settled for sitting down and hiding his face in his hands. "I didn't want to accept your apology because I was hurt. Would you rather have a fake 'oh it's alright Shiva, I forgive you' or would you rather I actually forgave you? Because the latter isn't a sit and fix problem. I know you're sorry, but you're sorry because you don't want to loose another friend, not because you hurt me, and I know I'm overreacting, I know I'm making this harder and worse than it needs to be," Norman continued, voice just getting softer the longer he spoke.
"But maybe I'm sick of being fake, maybe I'm sick of wearing a mask and feeling like nothing I do is good enough for anyone. I mess up, constantly. I know that. I know I'm being a selfish, petty, brat, believe it or not. But I'm still upset. And for once in my life, I'm letting myself be upset. I'll forgive you, especially since I'm the one causing all the problems here," Norman explained and looked up at her. "I will forgive you, and I want our friendship to continue, I never wanted it to end in the first place. I just, I don't know how to open up, and when I do, it gets messy, really messy. You say right now that you wouldn't leave if you found out what happened to me or who I am underneath, but believe me, you would want to," he explained, trying to stop himself before well, before everything spiraled into an even bigger mess.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 11:48:27 GMT -5
OOC Tbh, this was way longer originally, but a lot of it was Norman loosing it and just spilling out everything that's happened to him and it got really long and so I don't know if now would be a good time for him to even do that. So it's cut out for now.
Also after looking over everything, I am now realizing that this poor kid has been through a lot. Like...seriously, my poor son, no wonder you're a mess.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 14:40:42 GMT -5
OOC Aka?
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 16:06:07 GMT -5
OOC So I posted the doodles I did on the art thread.
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 16:38:15 GMT -5
OOC: Morning!
I fair enough. IDK, maybe the reason I'm not so empathetic of Norman right now is because I've not known him as well as Shiva. Like I have seen Shiva since her creation so I know everything she's been though cause I am a part of all that, but with Norman I don't.
Also I love your doodles Smoreo!
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 16:52:11 GMT -5
OOC Tbh, Norman's a bit of a brat. However I always end up taking his side anyways cause he's my trash son and I love him and literally everything he does has meaning and he's just really broken inside, yet people just assume or expect him to be okay, even his brothers don't seem to realize what a mess he actually is and so I just tend to favor him more, I guess. But yeah, from what I've heard, I guess Norman's not really much of a favorite and I get that. I'm fairly certain I'm probably the only one who can stand him.
Thanks! They're all pretty simple, just to know of draw for the sake of drawing, and because I haven't done any traditional stuff in awhile.
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 17:00:45 GMT -5
OOC: Oh I get that. I mean he is an awesome character. I'm not sure how I'd react to him in real life, but here I think it's pretty cool how everything he does has its meaning. I think the biggest problem he has is holding grudges. That's what seems to be pushing everyone away, because he simple won't forgive anyone.
Still, they're awesome! Even if they're just quickie doodles, I like them!
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 17:08:26 GMT -5
OOC Well, he can't be perfect. Norman holds grudges very easily. It's probably because nothing's been easy for him, he has a hard time making things easy for anyone else. He does forgive people, it just takes time.
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Post by πππππ π¨ on Aug 7, 2017 17:11:33 GMT -5
(I'm alive!)
(I was slightly inactive due to Band Camp.)
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 17:15:20 GMT -5
OOC: True yes. No ones perfect. He's a pretty complicated character huh? I suppose though with the way he acts, if people do stick around it means they are friends worth having.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 17:15:35 GMT -5
OOC Hi Lynx!
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 17:16:27 GMT -5
OOC: Hey Lynx! I hope band camp was fun!
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 17:17:39 GMT -5
OOC True. I don't know how Ives deals with him. That boy isn't scared off by anything. Also is it weird that like, while I totally understand people not liking Norman, cause he's trash. But at the same time I'm a little possessive of him. Like, no, stop, he's my son and I must protect him.
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Post by Fire on Cloud Nine on Aug 7, 2017 17:56:53 GMT -5
OOC: Yeah, it's nearly scary actually. Oh it's totally understandable! You like his mother, being his creator, so I can so understand you wanting to defend him! I'm the same with Maverick. Though I don't know what you guys think of him.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 18:08:41 GMT -5
OOC Ives, the true guy with no fear. Maverick's a very cool character. I like him. As for Norman, like I'm defensive of all my characters but Norman's on the special list of ones I'm extra fond of. That list basically includes Norman at the top, followed by the other three Walters, then Beau. At least for Hybrids.
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 18:13:18 GMT -5
OoC :: Oh wow, that would have been interesting at least. But possibly for the better at the moment.
Yeah, Norman has been through hell really.
IC :: "I- I'm sorry.... I didn't mean to make you out like the bad guy...." Shiva went quieter as she spoke now. She felt awful for making him think was. "I've never thought of you as a bad guy, I've never thought of you as any of those things- and if I had, it's not in a negative way because I am some of those too... I don't think of you as a villain because you try to help when you think a person needs it.... And I'm sorry that you would even think you are those... But, I am glad to hear- the last part that is..." She was glad to at least know that, that he hadn't ever wanted her to not be a friend and that was great to hear.
"I would have thought you would have opened up to him... He loves you no matter what, right? I mean, I know he wouldn't because I've watched him fall for you and stay loyal to you ever since I met you two..." She found it slightly hard to believe that Norman had a hard time opening up to him out of everyone. But, at the same time she could see it. Escpecially with what Norman was saying now. "But- it can't always be just because of you if someone leaves... There must be something else going on if they do because you try so much to be a good person to people that nobody would just leave because of that..."
She looked down, voice still quiet as she spoke. "No... I wouldn't. I just- I thought that even if it was fake, it was better than none because that way I would know we could actually be friends again... But I would still prefer a real one. I'm not just sorry that I would lose a friend, I know what I said was mentioned and I feel extremely bad about it. It's because I hurt you that I'm losing you, and with that I do feel bad about that. I'm sorry if I made it seem like I was only concerned with losing a friend... I'm sorry."
It was the last part she wanted to respond to that took the most time to word though. "Then don't be fake. Don't wear a mask. Everybody messes up, if somebody doesn't mess up at least once in their life- if somebody doesn't mess up at least 10 times in their life, there is no way they are human- or hybrid. It's impossible. I'm really glad that you forgive me, and I am still so sorry about everything I said... But I so want to stay friends... In fact," she paused before taking a breath and giving Norman a smile, "I will always want to be your friend, no matter what. And that also means being friends with the person you are hiding. I will always be your friend as long as you want to be mine as well..." With that last sentence she went give him a large, currently much needed hug.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 18:47:00 GMT -5
OOC Yeah, so I saved that that to drafts for a later time.
He really has been.
IC Norman had barely any time to respond to one thing before she had moved on to the next. He had come dangerously close to just spilling a lot of stuff out. There was a reason he didn't talk about this stuff, he had a reason for keeping to himself, wearing a mask. So instead, he didn't answer. He had a hard time letting anyone in. No one deserved that, especially not Ives, who had been nothing but sweet to him the entire time.
Then, when Shiva hugged him, he tensed up slightly before hugging her back, wrapping his arms around her comfortingly. He needed a hug but he felt like Shiva needed one more. "Shiva, I'll always be your friend, I promise," he told her, figuring he would let go after Shiva did, let her pick how long she wanted, and or needed the hug to last.
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 19:04:04 GMT -5
OoC :: Can't wait for it to spill then.
Also glad though that they have made up through this all.
IC :: She closed her eyes with a smile as her head hung above his shoulder. "Thank you, I'm glad. I'm really, really glad and I will always, always be here for you if you ever need to or want to talk." She pulled away just enough so she could see his face, small tears streaming from her eyes- some were from earlier in the conversation. Others were newer and from happiness of still being able to be Norman's friend. "I will always accept you for who you are, no matter what I will stay your friend. I promise with all my heart- so please remember that."
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 19:17:02 GMT -5
OOC It'll be fun.
Yeah, me too, I don't like it when they all fight.
IC Norman offered a small smile. "I'm glad," he told her, though it was for Shiva more than him. He had plenty of things he could say, but he held back. He had forgiven her, if anything else, from seeing how distressed it had made her and well, she was being sincere. Maybe, well maybe Norman could...trust her. It seemed like such a simple thing to do yet it was incredibly hard for Norman, who had only decided to completely trust Ives recently. "Now," he started, glancing towards the direction of the door. "I think we've made enough of a scene in someone else's home. Don't you? I'm ready to head out with Ives and Beau whenever you are," he said, looking back to Shiva. She needed him to stick around. As much as he needed someone to stay, she did too, and so that's what Norman planned on doing. He may also need to have a talk with Nanami.
Something Shiva had mentioned, about growing to think her problems were too depressing or whatever, stuck with him. When they all left, who had Shiva had? Well the obvious answer was her family, but they had distanced too, from what he understood. So that left Nanami, and Norman had to say, he was not impressed with how she had cared for his friend. (I really love having Norman put two and two together. He figures things out, and I love him for it.)
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Post by CreamCrow on Aug 7, 2017 19:33:06 GMT -5
OoC :: I am currently happy that now they are on good terms again. It has currently cheered me up quite a bit.
I love too, escpecially now because someone knows Nami was awful and Shiva hasn't told anybody it was really Nanami's fault she is like this now. So go Norman!
IC :: She gave a smile giggle to that with a warm smile and nodded. "Fair point, I doubt Dmitri would appreciate it. Though I think now would be the time to go and find them... And uh... Maybe sometime later, I might contact you to try and see your suggestions about some of my problems... I mean, in the past you've always had good suggestions.... And it couldn't hurt to at least have some ideas, can it?" She said moving away in total. And towards the direction the other two had gone off in, wiping any tears off her cheeks. Somewhere in her, she knew she couldn't go forever without asking for help.... And this time, it might just be worth it.
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Post by πβππ π£π on Aug 7, 2017 19:44:31 GMT -5
OOC Same here. Now we just have to get Norman and Thaddeus on good terms again then we'll have a good happy A.I.
Norman just figures things out, he doesn't need to be told and I just really love him because you can bet he's going to try his best to help.
IC Norman smiled again as he got up, dusting off his hands. "I'll keep my phone on me, and I'll always be happy to listen and offer any suggestions I can," he promised, not adding more, making a big deal about it might make Shiva change her mind and he didn't want that. "Now, as for Ives and Beau, I'm pretty sure they went outside, I think they were talking about Beau's car, and I think I heard the door open awhile ago," he explained.
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