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Post by smilii on Aug 14, 2016 10:18:40 GMT -5
Thistleclaw was, overall, quite vicious, whilst Ashfur generally was not.
It's also sad but necessary to remember that these cats would be extremely biased sometimes. I can fully imagine Yellowfang pleading Ashfur's cause because she, too, made a mistake in loving someone... except Ashfur actually tried to kill multiple cats (see, I never said I liked him, just that he belongs in StarClan.) And since Yellowfang was a medicine cat for two clans in her long and noble life, she would have quite an influence on some of the other StarClan cats.
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Post by Wicked Witch on Aug 14, 2016 10:38:14 GMT -5
Thistleclaw was, overall, quite vicious, whilst Ashfur generally was not. It's also sad but necessary to remember that these cats would be extremely biased sometimes. I can fully imagine Yellowfang pleading Ashfur's cause because she, too, made a mistake in loving someone... except Ashfur actually tried to kill multiple cats (see, I never said I liked him, just that he belongs in StarClan.) And since Yellowfang was a medicine cat for two clans in her long and noble life, she would have quite an influence on some of the other StarClan cats. He was quite extreme. Like when he egged on Tigerstar on Tiny and trained his kit apprentice moves. But the warrior code says to challenge all trespassers. But again, I understsand that Thisteclaw allowed Tigerpaw to go a little too far but still. He's also shown going a little too far in attacking Oakheart when he claims that he was washed up on the shore of ThunderClan. But Thistle doesn't seen any reason to believe this. He was extreme but not to the point where he would try to kill someone or need to be punished in a place like the DF. Unless I'm missing something. But didn't Yellowfng said that he found his way up there? I don't think bias had anythinkgto do with bias and influence and if it did then that just makes Yellowfang quite disgusting. |
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Post by sonnensturm1 on Aug 14, 2016 12:20:18 GMT -5
Honeyferns death.
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Post by smilii on Aug 14, 2016 13:27:35 GMT -5
Thistleclaw was, overall, quite vicious, whilst Ashfur generally was not. It's also sad but necessary to remember that these cats would be extremely biased sometimes. I can fully imagine Yellowfang pleading Ashfur's cause because she, too, made a mistake in loving someone... except Ashfur actually tried to kill multiple cats (see, I never said I liked him, just that he belongs in StarClan.) And since Yellowfang was a medicine cat for two clans in her long and noble life, she would have quite an influence on some of the other StarClan cats. He was quite extreme. Like when he egged on Tigerstar on Tiny and trained his kit apprentice moves. But the warrior code says to challenge all trespassers. But again, I understsand that Thisteclaw allowed Tigerpaw to go a little too far but still. He's also shown going a little too far in attacking Oakheart when he claims that he was washed up on the shore of ThunderClan. But Thistle doesn't seen any reason to believe this. He was extreme but not to the point where he would try to kill someone or need to be punished in a place like the DF. Unless I'm missing something. But didn't Yellowfng said that he found his way up there? I don't think bias had anythinkgto do with bias and influence and if it did then that just makes Yellowfang quite disgusting. tbh I think they were just salty about the whole Scourge fiasco. (Oh, and teaching Tigerstar how to deliver the killing bite probably wasn't a strike in his favour). Still, Yellowfang is meant to be a grotty old lady-cat who bosses Firepaw around and kills her own son, so maybe it's time she gets the shades-of-grey* reception she deserves. * EW NOT THAT 'SHADES OF GREY'. NEVER THAT SHADES OF GREY. |
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Post by Bαмвoo on Aug 14, 2016 14:20:14 GMT -5
Still salty about the Erins telling us that we would find out ivypool's mate in bramblestar's storm BUT WE DIDN'T
I love Brackenfur and Sorreltail honestly OTPOTPOTP
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Post by smilii on Aug 14, 2016 14:23:05 GMT -5
Still salty about the Erins telling us that we would find out ivypool's mate in bramblestar's storm BUT WE DIDN'T I love Brackenfur and Sorreltail honestly OTPOTPOTP If you want to find out who Ivypool's gonna get with, read the long excerpt for Thunder and Shadow. Apart from TwigViolet cuteness, we discover that Fernsong is, like, way too excited to go on patrol with Ivypool. And then hunting with Ivypool. He literally does nothing but talk about Ivypool excitedly then run off to find her. It's cute tho so no saltiness here |
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Post by kinkajou on Aug 14, 2016 14:32:43 GMT -5
Still salty about the Erins telling us that we would find out ivypool's mate in bramblestar's storm BUT WE DIDN'T I love Brackenfur and Sorreltail honestly OTPOTPOTP Well, Bramblestar's Storm is where we first meet Fernpaw/song right? foreshadowing |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 14:33:28 GMT -5
And Honeyfern dying?
Honestly it's not fries with salt.
it's salt with fries
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Post by Cloudshadow on Aug 14, 2016 14:35:29 GMT -5
Hey, a bit of non-salt here that will make everyone else salty- I think Ashfur should be in StarClan. This is because of how I imagine StarClan's judgement works. According to my theory, the cats of StarClan look at every action a cat did in their life and label it as 'good' or 'bad'. They also rate it on a scale of how bad it was, so that murdering kittens is worse than tripping up someone the cat disliked. Over Ashfur's life, he served his Clan well and decided not to antagonise Brambleclaw for loving Squirrelflight. This means that his good actions only just weighed in as more than his bad ones- so he was begrudgingly let into StarClan. However, Thistleclaw did lots of very little bad things and not many good ones, which added up to send him to the Dark Forest. Thoughts? Hm serving your Clan well is expected from a warrior. And lots of DF cats did that such as Tigerstar, Thistleclaw and Mapleshade to some extent. But the fact that they did bad things to hurt others and had no problem with doing so whatsoever is questionable to what they're true intentions are. Tigerclaw was probably serving his Clan well to appeal to his Clanmates and leader but it was all a mask of deception. Mapleshade just seemed to actually have a normal life be a deputy somedy but she ruined her own life with a mistake she did and then gets bitter about it blames other for it. But still went to the DF nonetheless. He didn't antagonize Bramblestar because he wasn't his target. Squirrelfight was. He did however target a Clan leader, and a medicince cat. Two important figures in Clan life. That doesn't really serve your Clan. Especially when he also tried to wipe out his former-apprentice and another warrior. He put four other cats life in danger intentionally to hurt someone else.What did Thistleclaw do that was so bad. He was predicted to be a bad leader but that's very unfair to be taken as responsible for actions you haven't even done yet. I think that cats are judged by the content of their heart (possibly alongside their actions) - how much darkness vs light there is in their hearts. Thistleclaw may not have done many bad things but it was undeniable (to me) that he wasnt a good cat. Ashfur may have had equal good and bad and so was given a chance in StarClan to redeem himself. Also there's the fact that StarClan likely put Ashfur in StarClan so he didn't join the DF in the DF battle. |
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Post by smilii on Aug 14, 2016 14:40:42 GMT -5
^True. I always did wonder if StarClan were just being sneaky with him.
(still if Hawkheart gets into StarClan then so does Ashfur, but somehow Mapleshade doesn't because she succeeds when she's mean!)
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Post by Cloudshadow on Aug 14, 2016 15:10:36 GMT -5
^True. I always did wonder if StarClan were just being sneaky with him. (still if Hawkheart gets into StarClan then so does Ashfur, but somehow Mapleshade doesn't because she succeeds when she's mean!) Perhaps it was because she probably wouldn't stop her killing spree in StarClan. She would likely go after her victims again since she'd have to see them all again in StarClan |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 15:14:43 GMT -5
It's not The Cats without the salt amirignt?? lets talk about least favorite cats, ships, books, scenes, deaths, and anything else you can think of
Least favorite ship: SpottedXFire and AshXScourge
Least favorite books: Dawn, Starlight, Dark River, Outcast.
Least favorite scene: I dunno
Least favorite death: Sandstorm :((( |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 15:16:18 GMT -5
Saltier than the sea
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Post by Fflewfflew on Aug 14, 2016 16:19:48 GMT -5
*breathes deeply* Ah I love the smell of salt in the afternoon.
I remember when everyone was salty about the JayfeatherxStick ship.
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Post by Kestrelfeather on Aug 16, 2016 19:08:39 GMT -5
Blackstar's death..
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Post by sphagnosidum on Aug 16, 2016 21:10:11 GMT -5
I hate Omen of the Stars because the large involvement committed by StarClan. StarClan was mainly a background force in the previous series becomes an obnoxious forefront runner in OOTS. Also really hate Yellowfang (lying to Squirrelflight, calling Mothwing an idiot, her "power").
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Post by Pollen-nose on Aug 17, 2016 4:50:03 GMT -5
*looks at username*
*looks back at thread*
Well... To throw in some salt, killing off Stalkerleaf(Spottedleaf) here to save Firestar from the very hard decision between a she-cat who he knew for a few days and his long-time mate.
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Post by kinkajou on Aug 17, 2016 5:40:26 GMT -5
I'm really glad ShadowClan is going to die
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Post by smilii on Aug 18, 2016 9:05:43 GMT -5
^Agreed, because I live off of drama, but I do feel rather sorry for Violetkit. I actually don't think she'll stay there like Tawnypelt, because unlike Tawnypelt she didn't choose to leave and she's probably better off with Lilyheart and Twigkit.
dfsakhjflka that feather tho
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Post by Blue on Aug 18, 2016 11:26:01 GMT -5
My least favorite cats are....Tigerstar, Hawkfrost and Brokenstar. My least favorite death was Bluestar's ;-; my least favorite book was......i dont really have one.
Least favorite ship: idek. Least favorite scene: idek
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