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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Jul 31, 2016 6:25:54 GMT -5
Leafpool and Sparkpaw are also genetically inaccurate. By extension, this means that the Three are also inaccurate, but Thunder is probably the worst offender.
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Post by ❄️Raccoonstep❄️ on Jul 31, 2016 8:15:07 GMT -5
Thunder, Lionblaze and Mosskit too right?
Anyway, this was a clever idea.
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Post by Deerspring on Jul 31, 2016 9:15:16 GMT -5
I like to re-imagine Sandstorm as a very pale tawny/brown torbie, and then by extension I make Leafpool into a brown torbie, which then makes both Hollyleaf and Lionblaze's pelt colors genetically possible. Though I tend to make Lionblaze golden brown instead of ginger, because even if Cinderheart was a torbie, Hollytuft and Sorrelstripe would still be wrong. Oh, and then Fernsong becomes a pale golden brown/tawny tabby cat.
This is all dependant on Nutmeg becoming a brown torbie though, since without that, Firestar being ginger just isn't viable.
*sigh* It seems to me like a lot of genetics problems in Warrior cats could be easily fixed by the Erins remembering that Torbies are a thing.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Jul 31, 2016 13:48:10 GMT -5
I'm actually fine with warriors not being genetically accurate because it keeps variety in the designs of the cats.
But how did Graystripe and Millie, two gray cats, make Blossomfall, a tortoiseshell.
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Post by 🌙Moonpower🌙 on Jul 31, 2016 17:33:17 GMT -5
I gave up on genetics in the first series. The Erins are gonna make their cats look like however they want them too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 17:39:02 GMT -5
Is this accurate? Whenever I make OC's for a fanclan story, i always make the kits look almost exactly like the parents because i have no knowledge of cat genetics.
EXAMPLE:
MOTHER (& kits)-
Flowerdust: small calico she-cat with yellow eyes. Mother of Foxstep’s kits: Rustykit (dark ginger tabby she-kit with amber eyes), Emberkit (calico she-kit with yellow eyes), and Applekit (pale ginger tom with amber eyes)
FATHER-
Foxstep: ginger-red tabby tom with dark amber eyes. Mate to Flowerdust.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Jul 31, 2016 17:51:32 GMT -5
Is this accurate? Whenever I make OC's for a fanclan story, i always make the kits look almost exactly like the parents because i have no knowledge of cat genetics. EXAMPLE: MOTHER (& kits)- Flowerdust: small calico she-cat with yellow eyes. Mother of Foxstep’s kits: Rustykit (dark ginger tabby she-kit with amber eyes), Emberkit (calico she-kit with yellow eyes), and Applekit (pale ginger tom with amber eyes) FATHER- Foxstep: ginger-red tabby tom with dark amber eyes. Mate to Flowerdust. It's accurate. As long as there are no calico toms and the she-cats are ginger or calico, it would work. |
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 20, 2016 4:13:43 GMT -5
oh my god... STORM CHANGE TO A GINGER... NOW! xD
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 20, 2016 4:14:54 GMT -5
Yes accurate as long as th=e father has a dilute gene parent so his parents will need to be probably ginger and cream
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 20, 2016 4:15:43 GMT -5
i make shellheart a dusky brown tom xD
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 20, 2016 4:17:05 GMT -5
i imagine sandtsorm as a classic calico but with really pale ginger patches... looks better than her actual design imo
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Post by Moon on Aug 20, 2016 7:53:33 GMT -5
Genetics have nothing to do with warrior cats. The Erins don't know them, and they don't apply them. So they're just not part of the warrior cats universe.
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Post by Kestrelfeather on Aug 20, 2016 8:29:16 GMT -5
I mean, it's a fantasy book with talking cats and cats with religions. There don't have to be genetics. Either that, or the Erins just don't care....or they have no idea what cat genetics are.
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Post by nem on Aug 20, 2016 8:58:26 GMT -5
The Erins did not do the proper research that was needed to start a book series about cats.  |
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Post by nem on Aug 20, 2016 8:59:26 GMT -5
oh my god... STORM CHANGE TO A GINGER... NOW! xD She could be a tortoiseshell. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 9:05:35 GMT -5
What the Erins think a group of isolated cats looks like: (photo credit: Captian Morwen on Deviant Art)  What a group of isolated cats actually looks like:  ^ Japan's Cat island |
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Post by Kestrelfeather on Aug 20, 2016 9:34:27 GMT -5
Also this pretty much summarizes it for me:
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Post by mEmE on Aug 20, 2016 13:59:28 GMT -5
Recessive genes may play a part, but for a lot of cats we don't know a whole lot of backstory on their parents and family, so we can only assume that certain recessive genes make some of the cats happen
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Post by Scarpath on Aug 20, 2016 17:14:06 GMT -5
i'm very tempted to re-write some of the genetics for warrior cats, even if it's just Firestar's bloodline...
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 21, 2016 4:51:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I understand that but I just find it fun to do this because alot of the time i get some cool designs and stuff lol just for enjotment!!
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Post by nem on Aug 21, 2016 7:23:34 GMT -5
Spyro I can't see the picture by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 11:52:19 GMT -5
Genetics have nothing to do with warrior cats. The Erins don't know them, and they don't apply them. So they're just not part of the warrior cats universe. Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 11:53:17 GMT -5
The Erins did not do the proper research that was needed to start a book series about cats. Is it bad that this makes me want to make my book series even more unrealistic? |
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Aug 24, 2016 14:41:50 GMT -5
Haha, You have your opinion, I have mine  I just enjoy drawing and explaining these cats for personal enjoyment!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 18:16:11 GMT -5
I agree with this so much! Plus, there seem to be way too many calicos for the actual likelihood of that happening.
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Post by Bramblestar on Aug 25, 2016 18:44:07 GMT -5
Maybe Starclan just makes them have a bunch of mutations? I mean if they're able to cause lightning that strikes down trees whenever they like, surely they can move a few genes here and there?
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Post by mEmE on Aug 25, 2016 19:38:30 GMT -5
Please read this, from my knowledge, all of the warrior cars can be a possibility if you take into the account of recessive genes. We don't know for the majority of cats what their ancestors were like, but if we can somehow trace them all the way back to the ancients, we might be able to determine the possibilities of these cats.
Example, the most baffling was Thunder since both his parents were grey. However, remember how in the sun trail? Fluttering Bird was stated as a brown she-cat. This means that quite possibly Quiet Rain's mate probably had a hint of brown, which we can use this to infer that Quiet Rain's mate might have parents or grandparents with a ginger colour. It is not a complete impossibility. In this case, Thunder would have inherited his ginger colour from maybe one of the parents or grandparents of Quiet Rain's mate.
You guys are determining possibility of the cat by using their parents as an example, but you're not considering the possibilities of Dominant/Recessive genes.
And do note that recessive genes may appear after quite a lot of generations, so there is never a way we can determine if a cat is possible or impossible because we have limited knowledge on their family bloodlines
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Post by Amber on Sept 4, 2016 17:37:28 GMT -5
Please read this, from my knowledge, all of the warrior cars can be a possibility if you take into the account of recessive genes. We don't know for the majority of cats what their ancestors were like, but if we can somehow trace them all the way back to the ancients, we might be able to determine the possibilities of these cats. Example, the most baffling was Thunder since both his parents were grey. However, remember how in the sun trail? Fluttering Bird was stated as a brown she-cat. This means that quite possibly Quiet Rain's mate probably had a hint of brown, which we can use this to infer that Quiet Rain's mate might have parents or grandparents with a ginger colour. It is not a complete impossibility. In this case, Thunder would have inherited his ginger colour from maybe one of the parents or grandparents of Quiet Rain's mate. You guys are determining possibility of the cat by using their parents as an example, but you're not considering the possibilities of Dominant/Recessive genes. And do note that recessive genes may appear after quite a lot of generations, so there is never a way we can determine if a cat is possible or impossible because we have limited knowledge on their family bloodlines Actually, Fluttering Bird is perfectly fine genetically speaking. Gray is a dilution of black. With black cats, they can produce black tabbies/brown cats. And the eye colors. For example Storm has brilliant green eyes and Skystar has ice-blue eyes, their son Thunder has clear amber eyes. I think amber is the dominant allele just like brown by people and blue is recessive. It is impossible for two cats with blue or green eyes to have a kit with amber eyes, just like it is impossible for two people with blue eyes to have a child with brown eyes. But two people with brown eyes, can have a child with blue eyes. Than two amber eyed cats can have a kit with green eyes i think. The same applies for Leafpool, because her parents have both green eyes and she has amber eyes. Besides domestic cats usually don't have blue eyes, it is very rare. here is the order from dominant to recessive 1. Brown 2. Green 3. Blue 4. Gray Actually, to my knowledge at least, eye color has nothing to do with parentage, but with the appearance of the cat. As for blue eyes, the cat has to have white on them or they're completely white. The only expectation to this is the Ojos Blue breed which can pass on it's blue eyes to cats of any coat color. |
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Spyro
"Name a Yellow Fruit" "ORANGE!"
Pronouns: She/Her/Fab/Best/Llama
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Post by Spyro on Sept 8, 2016 9:24:24 GMT -5
sorry i barely started genetics and find it often confusing xD
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I just enjoy drawing and explaining these cats for personal enjoyment! 
